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Scottish government supports Catalonia's right to decide its future

Monday, September 18th 2017 - 10:41 UTC
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The people of Catalonia should determine its future, the Scottish government has said. The region's government has insisted a referendum on independence from Spain will go ahead on 1 October. Madrid has vowed to block the vote, saying it is unconstitutional. Read full article


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  • Brit Bob

    Catalonia’s push for independence from Spain is illegitimate, as the region has not been recognized by the United Nations as a non-autonomous territory, UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon told Spanish media.
    “When one speaks of self-determination, certain areas have been recognized by the United Nations as non-autonomous territories. But Catalonia does not fall into this category,” Ban said in an interview with Spanish newspapers El Pais, El Mundo, ABC and La Vanguardia. (31 Oct 2015).

    Sep 18th, 2017 - 10:50 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • EscoSesDoidao

    Viva Catalonia!

    Sep 18th, 2017 - 12:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Marti Llazo

    ¡visca Catalunya lliure i sobirana! Ja és hora Catalunya exerceixi els seus drets a l'autodeterminació.

    Sep 18th, 2017 - 01:34 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Conqueror

    @Brit Bob. I'm curious. According to the limited research I've done on the history, the original Catalonia occupied a geographical position where it was partly in what is now France and partly in what is now Spain. At a time when “Spain” itself consisted of a number of separate kingdoms. More to the point, the “Spanish” area was feudal.The UN Charter would appear to enshrine the principle of self-determination. There can be little doubt that, although ethnically “similar”, Catalans are different from Castilians, Aragonese, Basques, Navarese, Andalusians and so on. They do, after all, have their own language. When did the UN become a world government or, for that matter, a legal authority? How does somewhere like Catalonia become recognised as a “non-autonomous territory” when the current Spanish “government” declares everything Catalonia does to be unconstitutional? I believe Madrid's “view” is that “Spain” is indivisible. How does one obtain self-determination when one's “overlord” maintains domination and the UN conspires to maintain the status quo.

    There appears to be something wrong with the way that the UN operates. I have made the point in the past that the Falkland Islands should have the “right” to determine its own future. The UK has changed the Islands' status from “colony” to “self-governing”. How does the UN get to persist in referring to them as non-self governing? It only leaves them at risk from the crooks on the continent. I thought the UN was formed to protect people's freedoms. Has it lost its way? Is it time to demolish it and create something fit for the 21st century?

    Sep 18th, 2017 - 03:37 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • gordo1

    Jo opoixo fermament a la independència d'Escòcia tal com s'oposa a la independència de Catalunya. ¡Viva España unida!

    Sep 18th, 2017 - 05:55 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Brit Bob


    The UN sees the right to self-determination as applying to ALL NSGTs. Outside of that remit it is an internal affair for the respective governments otherwise chaos might ensue when richer regions of countries wanted to break away and proclaim self-government.

    Last week the Venice Commission – a panel of experts who advise the Council of Europe on constitutional law – wrote to Puigdemont, telling him that the referendum would have to be carried out “in agreement with the Spanish authorities … and in full compliance with the constitution and the applicable legislation”.

    Up to Spain. (unfortunately).

    Sep 18th, 2017 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Marti Llazo

    Molt be, gordo, amb això ens diferenciem - peró tens dret a la llibertat d'opinió i d'expressió.

    Sep 18th, 2017 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • EscoSesDoidao

    Keep opposing it then Gordo, - But you can't prevent it.

    Sep 18th, 2017 - 08:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • golfcronie

    Let the Catalans chose their destiny

    Sep 18th, 2017 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Marcos Alejandro

    Tomás Morado

    Le recuerdo que el idioma aquí, por orden de Mercopress, es INGLES.
    (I remind you that the language here, by order of Mercopress, is ENGLISH)

    Please have the courtesy to repeat your post in English as many of the contributors here here do not understand your BASURA(rubbish)!

    Sep 19th, 2017 - 03:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Capt Rockhopper

    Oh well that's Scotlands application to join the EU buggered. The wee munchkin has ensured that Spain will veto any application Scotland might make in the future, well done Nicola. LMFAO

    Sep 19th, 2017 - 05:43 am - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Clyde15

    Explain how Scotland can apply to join the EU as part of the UK .

    Anyway, Spain has always said it would veto any proposal for Scotland to join the EU if it supported Catalonian independence. So, what's new ?

    Sep 19th, 2017 - 09:57 am - Link - Report abuse +3
  • gordo1

    Marquitos Alejandrito

    What a cheeky little boy you are! So now the Catalan language is “rubbish” is it? Assuming that you are a “gaucho” the form of Spanish spoken in Argentina is “castizo” is it? I think it is “pura basura”!

    Sep 20th, 2017 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • golfcronie

    I think you will find that the Spanish spoken in Argentina is in fact “ Castellano ” A bastard version of Spanish.

    Sep 20th, 2017 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gordo1

    The language of Argentina is, as you say, a bastard form of Spanish but I can assure you that it is NOT “Castellano”!

    Sep 21st, 2017 - 06:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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