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Brexit will hit Britain’s overseas territories hard – why is no one talking about it?
When the Brexit referendum result was announced last June, I was working on the Turks and Caicos Islands, one of the UK’s overseas territories in the Caribbean. A collection of about 40 tropical islands, of which eight are inhabited, people there were shocked at the result. They were annoyed they hadn’t had a chance to vote, and concerned about their future. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesI suspect it's because the biggest supporters of the BOTs, and the biggest fans of their remaining British, were also mostly Brexit supporters.
Oct 05th, 2017 - 11:21 am - Link - Report abuse -3If it was some EU decision that had the same effect, I bet we'd be seeing a lot more noise and complaints about it, and they'd be keen to stand up for the territories.
What annoyed a lot of us in the BOTs is that- Gibraltar apart - we were not allowed a vote.
Oct 05th, 2017 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse +3OK Gib is physically attatched to mainland Europe - but many BOTs have a big part of their trade with the EU.
REF: “why is no one talking about it?”:
Oct 05th, 2017 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Brexit will finally be Brenter - after the Brexit-Shit hits the fan!
the falklands invested a lot of money to have an abattoir certified to comply with eu standards. what new standards will brexit bring?
Oct 05th, 2017 - 04:34 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Mr. Porman...
Oct 05th, 2017 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse -2It basically means that the Falkland/Malvinas Mutton-Lamb meat will have to “find a place” and compete with 12 other producers already included in the EU 27 Mutton & Lamb Duty Free Quota of 286,000 tonnes...
That Quota is almost entirely allocated already to countries like Argentina: 23,000 t, Chile: 7,400 t, Uruguay: 5,800 t, New Zealand: 228,000 t... etc..., etc..., etc.....
Quantities outside the Quota can be charged a mixed tariff of up to 12.8% of the price, plus up to €902 to €3,118 per tonne (mostly between €1,000 and €2,000) depending on the cut, whether it is chilled or frozen and so on. The highest rate is on boneless meat...:
https://tradebetablog.wordpress.com/2017/01/06/limits-of-possibility/
Good luck...
You will need it...
Regards... El Think...
@Islander1
Oct 05th, 2017 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse -1You don't get a vote in normal elections either, and apparently prefer it that way. Gibraltar was only given a vote because they are in the EU; the other BOTs aren't, although they do get preferential trading terms.
@portman
Depends on whether Britain manages to get a trade deal with the EU, probably. I doubt any country could possibly have stricter standards than the EU though!
@Think
Now I am wondering if anything at all is imported to Argentina from the Falklands and whether they have to pay tariffs if so?
@Islander1. Not only do you not get to vote in UK national elections, we don't get to vote in yours either. What is your interest in voting in a UK referendum except for your trade with the EU? We conduct your foreign relations in accordance with your wishes. We defend you. Provide a justification why you should “tell” us what to do. And Gibraltar's vote had no effect anyway.
Oct 05th, 2017 - 08:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0@:o)) Not a chance.
@portman Who do they propose trading with? How about selling their meat to the UK?
@Twink Wonder if argieland is hoping to sell anything to the UK? Doesn't matter what the politicians say, the people might just leave argie products to rot. I wouldn't buy any of it. In fact, if any store stocked it, I'd complain.
Why should the Falkland Islands be among the losers?
Oct 06th, 2017 - 04:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Presently the islands gain a lot from the fishing licences they currently sell to Spanish ships. Why would these licences be charged with tariffs?
Tariffs on exports to EU-countries are a possibility, but not an obligation.
AngloTurnip above says...:
Oct 06th, 2017 - 12:34 pm - Link - Report abuse -2“Tariffs on exports to EU-countries are a possibility, but not an obligation.”
I say...:
Tariffs on exports to EU-countries are a highly regulated, hard administered and inflexibly implemented obligatory set of ~2,600,000 tariff lines applied to ALL non EU members...
Shrinkbrain above, who for unknown reasons calls himself Think, says...: “Tariffs on exports to EU-countries are a highly regulated”
Oct 07th, 2017 - 01:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0There are no tariffs on exports, except in Argentina. The tariffs are in the First World are on imports.
Why do the Spanish buy licenses to fish in Falkland Islands waters? because they have a desperate need for the fish. They will also pay in the future.
@St.John
Oct 07th, 2017 - 10:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0And goods from the Falklands exported to the EU are... yes, imports to the EU. Which are highly regulated and obligatory for any country the EU does not have a trade deal with.
- And the Spanish will buy licenses to fish in Falkland/Malvinas Islands waters..., as long as it is economically rentable..., something that highly regulated, hard administered and inflexibly implemented EU obligatory set of ~2,600,000 tariff lines on exports to EU-countries from Non EU-countries could change in a jiffy...
Oct 07th, 2017 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Not only did the BOT citizens not get a vote in the EU referendum but also the Brits living in other EU countries also. The expats in Europe are potentially the ones with the most to lose and, if we had had the right to vote along with the BOTs, I'm sure that the referendum would have gone the other way and we would have nothing to worry about now.
Oct 07th, 2017 - 11:55 am - Link - Report abuse 0@RedBaron
Oct 07th, 2017 - 04:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I agree with that, they should have let British citizens living anywhere in the EU vote. But the whole thing was done badly. They assumed Remain would win and didn't take it seriously enough, with the present shambolic result.
Allow me to complement...:
Oct 07th, 2017 - 06:10 pm - Link - Report abuse -1British expats with less than 15 years of residence abroad were allowed to vote on Brexit...
British expats with more than 15 years of residence abroad were not...
Taking in consideration the several auld age, insufferable & recalcitrant British expats that often express their longings for their lost Empire on these pages..., I Think their vote would had widened, not reduced the BREXIT vote gap...
Just me uneducated opinion..., mind you...
Huh. For some reason I thought it was 7 years, don't know where I got that from. You'd think that Brits living elsewhere in the EU would vote to remain for their own benefit, but if recent elections have taught us anything, it's that people don't always vote for their own best interests.
Oct 07th, 2017 - 07:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Before the referendum, I remember hearing about retirees in Spain who planned to vote Leave because they thought there were too many immigrants in the UK. The irony apparently escaped them. But perhaps that was an urban legend? People on here are not particularly representative of the general population though.
You never answered my question though. What happens if some enterprising Argentine takes a ship to the Falklands, buys some stuff, and tries to unload it in Rio Gallegos? Is it considered to have originated in Argentina according to your laws? What if they stick a 'Fabricado en Tierra del Fuego' sticker on it?
Been done... not feasible today...
Oct 07th, 2017 - 08:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In the seventies most Corgi Toys in Argentina originated from the Malvinas gray market...
I Think... some of me kids still 'ave this one...:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corgi_Toys#/media/File%3ANick's_Pics_047.jpg
Heh, that's kind of cool. I guess relations were a tad more cordial back in the 70s though. Is all trade banned nowadays?
Oct 07th, 2017 - 09:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“If we had had the right to vote along with the BOTs,”
Oct 07th, 2017 - 10:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What is this...? An expat that didn't know that they could vote in the referendum...kinda fishy or what...?
Johnny Foreigner pretending to be a Brit...?
Snoopy will take care of him...
https://auctionimages.s3.amazonaws.com/65102/22737/14953945.jpg
Oct 07th, 2017 - 10:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0England will return the Malvinas within 25 years.
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