Labour and Tories face more resignations with Independent Group growing

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British Labour and Conservatives parties could face more resignations, with members of the new Independent Group saying they expect more MPs to join them. Ex-Tory MP Heidi Allen told ITV's Peston program “a third” of Tory MPs were fed up with the party's direction. Read full article

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bushpilot
I thought that this Independent Party started because of “anti-semitism”. How many jewish people can there be in the UK anyway?

But they really left the Labour Party because they want to Remain and want a second referendum, right?`

Now, these 3 pro-remain Tories, are they quitting because of anti-semitism too? Do the Tories also have a bad problem with anti-semitism?

“the new group say they stand for “the centre ground of politics””. The center? Aren't they all Remainers? How is that the center?

“Whatever I want automatically becomes the rational logical middle ground”, right?

If the UK can't leave without a deal, it will remain in the EU because there can't be a deal. The only deal possible is an “almost remain” deal anyway. Either way, remain, just like these people want. Never mind the majority will of the real people.

A second referendum? That'd be a shit storm?
Feb 22nd, 2019 - 04:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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DemonTree
@Bushpilot
It says right in the article that the Labour MPS were “unhappy about their party's handling of Brexit and anti-Semitism”. I'd say Corbyn and his hard left policies are the common thread, and for the Tories who joined, it's similarly the excessive influence of the far right wing of the party. For at least the last couple of decades, it's been the centrist politicians who have been most in favour of the EU. Remember. 'Wet' Tory Cameron was pro-EU, while leftist Corbyn has always been a Euro-sceptic.

Anyway, at least they are doing something, unlike the rest of that miserable lot. If they need to delay A50 in order to get a deal they can live with, that is better than crashing out with no planning. As for a second referendum, it would obviously have been undemocratic to do it back in 2016. But enough has changed since then and enough new information become available that it would be reasonable now. Whether people prefer no Brexit, May's deal or no deal, it would at least break the deadlock.
Feb 23rd, 2019 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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bushpilot
In what month of what year did the tangible pursuit of “a deal we can live with” begin in earnest?

In March of 2019 how many months will have been spent in that pursuit of “a deal we can live with”?

With the amount of time already spent in pursuit of “a deal we can live with”, how close have they come to that goal?

If no deal is reached in March of 2019, how many more months do you think Article 50 should be delayed, at which time “a deal we can live with” will have been achieved?

Do you think it likely that sometime in the future the EU and the UK and the Labour Party and the Tories and the new Independent Party can all arrive at “a deal we can live with”?

The results from a detailed second referendum “might” jumpstart the process.

Will these three parties be able to agree on the content of the questions to be put forth in a second referendum?
Feb 23rd, 2019 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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