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Bolsonaro's decision to commemorate military coup opposed by federal prosecutors office
Brazil's federal prosecutor's office on Tuesday said it was opposed to far-right President Jair Bolsonaro's plan to allow the armed forces to officially commemorate the 55th anniversary of Brazil's military coup this weekend. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesWow. That is seriously fucked up. Don't the Brazilian military have any actual positive achievements to commemorate?
Mar 27th, 2019 - 10:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0@DemonTree
Mar 27th, 2019 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0REF: Don't the Brazilian military have any actual positive achievements to commemorate?
Of course, they DO have Factual +ve Achievements & THAT's why Brazil MUST commemorate military coup!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2019/03/27/grim-history-that-brazils-president-wants-celebrate/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.645a9c11e180
Once again, the Press has distorted the facts and blown them out of proportion ; the high command instructed that a communiqué be read within the barracks, to (only) its members, with the sole objective of reminding them what their Constitutional duties are, and to avoid a repeat of such events....
Apr 01st, 2019 - 07:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0But of course, as fully expected the left is indignant...but then again, they become indignant at everything that does not favor them....
On the other hand, the Armed Forces did not, by any definition, “commemorate” the date as a victory, or refer to it as such, instead using it diplomatically to reinforce the rule of democracy. (Perhaps also a message to Brazil's northern neighbor ?)
The left believes they (Military) should apologize for 1964, but did the left (Jose Dirceu, Dilma, and dozens of others in power until recently) ever apologize for the guerrillas' armed resistance and their actions, which resulted in the deaths of Armed Forces members and innocent bystanders ? Absolutely NOT. So let them suck it up.
@JB
Apr 02nd, 2019 - 10:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0O Globo says Bolsonaro released a video with some actor praising the military for the coup.
I'm pretty sure the military's constitutional duties do not include overthrowing a democratically elected President...
Is this real or fake? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cxSYUq4uJY
@Jack Bauer / @DemonTree
Apr 02nd, 2019 - 11:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0REF: “On the other hand, the Armed Forces did not, by any definition, “commemorate” the date as a victory, or refer to it as such, instead using it diplomatically to reinforce the rule of democracy”:
The Armed Forces are normally ordered + are supposed to obey and never are “hinted diplomatically”.
REF: Real/Fake:
The Left/Right, instead of apologizing+blaming each others' misdeeds + instead of retrieving the buried hatchets, MUST find ways of working together; for the sake of their countries [“countries”; because it's not just a Brazilian Speciality]. As long as THAT doesn't happen; none can be taken at Face-Values [masks]. No matter who anyone's Political Hero [masked person] is; they ALL struggle for the same thing - the ONLY thing that matters the most to them - the Corrupted-Power!
DT
Apr 03rd, 2019 - 07:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The video that was released - stupidly - by the government, was produced independently by a rich businessman, a Bolsonaro supporter....nevertheless it was not wise to divulge it.
The military's constitutional duties are to preserve the nation's integrity, and if they saw it endangered by communism, they reacted to prevent it. And the “democratically elected president” was no longer acting democratically, neither respecting the votes given to Janio Quadros (the elected president in 1960). As I've mentioned before, Jango, although Janio's VP, was not whom the people voted for.....and when he started to lean to the left, society as whole did not like it.....making, IMO, getting rid of him perfectly legitimate.
You seem to believe that before Jango started leaning to the left, and long before the coup happened, the military were already intent on taking power (regardless of previous events that lead up to it), for the sake of power.....they reacted to a percieved threat (far more obvious to them than to ordinary citizens) and their only mistake (which in retrospect, proved not to be so mistaken), was to remain in power for 21 years. The civilians have done a pretty lousy job, but of course, in the name of 'democracy', all is forgiven...
In their own way, the civilians are just as responsible ...for evil acts ...do you know how many hundreds of thousands die per year, victims of corruption : bad or inexistent health services, the lack of decent public security, dangerous highways, announced tragedies like that of the mining dams in MG and all over Brazil ? thanks to the 'democratic' civilians, who are a damned sight worse than the military ever was....
Regarding the video, don't know whether it referred to a celebration of March 31st, or just a military parade, celebrating something else....did not recognize anyone who might make me believe it was current....but even if it was, the “reminder” of the March 31st was restricted to inside Army facilities.
B must have approved the video if he released it. It's obvious his views haven't changed much, whatever he said in order to get elected.
Apr 03rd, 2019 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“The military's constitutional duties are to preserve the nation's integrity, and if they saw it endangered by communism, they reacted to prevent it.”
That would be more convincing if they hadn't held on to power for 21 years afterwards. Maybe they weren't 'intent on taking power', but they knew it was a possibility; it wasn't the first coup in Brazil. And they weren't too keen to give it up once they had it - running the country as they saw fit rather than how the citizens wanted it. I know you think they did a better job overall, but that doesn't mean it was better for everyone; minimum wage fell during the military rule, for example.
As for Jango not being elected, the same could be said of Temer. He also moved far from Dilma's policies, and society was not happy - he had a popularity in the single digits. Would that justify a coup?
“In their own way, the civilians are just as responsible ...for evil acts”
If you go that far, then we are all responsible, because we could always do more, give more to save lives. We don't vote for politicians who want to raise taxes, we ignore speed limits and we buy cheap products made in sweatshops. Politicians can do more, but aren't totally free to act, either. To some extent they do what we demand of them.
As for the video, I was dubious because I never heard of the channel. At any rate, it doesn't show celebrations on March 31st - it was published on the 28th. Do you recognise the red and blue flags visible in some of the shots? A state flag or regimental banner, perhaps?
@Jack Bauer
Apr 03rd, 2019 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0REF: The civilians have done a pretty lousy job, but of course, in the name of 'democracy', all is forgiven”
I also heard that:
- Forgiven AND forgotten [conveniently]
- For the poor, even suffering has become MORE expensive [+ lethargy helps to worsen the situation]
- They are left on their own, [besides money] - on purpose too -with (-) information, (-) education, (-) well-being, (-) security, + (-) any physical-energy; to fight back the Existing System.
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DT
Apr 04th, 2019 - 10:35 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Altho the video was released through a government channel, that does not imply it was autorized by Bolsonaro. He wan't even in Brazil on the 31st. Anyway, the video, imo, was no reason for the lefties to feel offended. It was no more than a simple reminder that in '64, the country was very uneasy, and that various segments of society - the 'civil' society, the Church, the main media companies (press) , business owners, the people, were clamoring for a solution against Jango's ties with the Chinese and the Soviets, and called upon the Armed Forces....many of those same segments today, try to ignore that.
The fact the Army held on to power for 21 years is because they did not trust the civilians....and they weren't wrong. But what if the Communists had taken over ( a hypothesis that cannot be ignored), do you really think they, under the Soviet Politburo, would be concerned with the minimum wage, and the well-being of the people ?
Temer and Jango have that in common, but in all honesty, Temer did try to do the right thing when Brazil needed it....the fact he didn't succeed, was due to his involvement in previous corruption, and the civilians (Congress) went back to their evil ways. Temer's popularity was low (not so sure how “accurate” the polls were), but you can't compare that to Dilma's impeachment.
“If you go that far, then we are all responsible...”...as a society , we are...the majority voted for shit, and those who voted against it shouldn't be thrown into the same category. I have no doubt that society, as a whole, besides being stupoid, is out to get ahead at any cost, even by stepping on others. I don't like this but it's a fact.
In the UK the politicians may be, or feel responsible towards their constituents, here, generally speaking, not at all.
Don't recognize anything or anyone in the video, except that it is the Brazilian Army. The channel - sharjah24.ae - sounds like some United Arab Emirate outfit, not too reliable.
Jack Bauer aka Proof-less and Truth-less
Apr 05th, 2019 - 11:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”But what if the Communists had taken over ( a hypothesis that cannot be ignored)”
Thank you for displaying your complete dishonesty, as that little narrative by you has long been discredited. So stand up and take another bow, as you have proved yourself a liar yet again.
https://en.mercopress.com/2019/02/07/lula-in-a-new-corruption-conviction-is-sentenced-to-another-13-years-in-prison/comments#comment498031
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