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Brazil halts exports of beef: case of “atypical” mad cow disease

Tuesday, June 4th 2019 - 09:40 UTC
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Brazil has temporarily halted beef exports to China following an atypical case of mad cow disease in leading farm state Mato Grosso, the agriculture ministry said on Monday. China, Brazil's largest beef importer by sales, spent US$1.5 billion on Brazilian beef last year, totalling 322,400 tons or almost 20% of all shipments, according to local beef exporters association Abiec. Read full article

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  • chronic

    Interesting conundrum for Chinese consumers.

    Which is less undesirable?

    Latam or Chinese beef?

    Jun 04th, 2019 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • :o))

    REF: “Brazil halts exports of beef”:

    Brazilians already enjoy the Rotten Meat. So the beef of any cow [mad or not] is NO problem at all!

    Jun 04th, 2019 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • chronic

    Obamy thought the Brazzer takeover of Swift was just wonderful.

    Dumbass.

    Jun 04th, 2019 - 02:21 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • :o))

    REF: “Brazil halts exports of beef”:

    MORE Rotten-Meat for the Brazilians! Will it be cheaper?

    Jun 06th, 2019 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    When I saw “mad cow” mentioned in the headline, I thought they were talking about Dilma...

    Truth is that there are responsible cattle farmers and slaughter houses, and there are those that resort to careless or criminal activities as a way of business....why the latter aren't simply shut down and their owners sent to prison, I don't know, but the fact is that the actions of a few screw it for everyone.

    Jun 07th, 2019 - 09:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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    @Jack Bauer

    REF: “I thought they were talking about Dilma...”:

    That was superb! :o))))))

    Fortunately; there isn't a shortage of the Mad Bulls+Cows:

    http://www.chargeonline.com.br/php/charges/son.jpg

    THAT's HOW OPTIMISTIC I CAN GET!

    Jun 08th, 2019 - 09:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @:o))
    “We're all in the same boat”....the Titanic....true, and while the ship sinks, the politicians rush for the lifeboats, throwing women and children overboard.

    Jun 08th, 2019 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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    @Jack Bauer

    As you rightly said:
    https://i2.wp.com/www.humorpolitico.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Sergio-Moro-Juiz-Parcial.png?resize=544%2C420&ssl=1

    Jun 10th, 2019 - 02:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    @JB
    Re “Thousands of students...”

    “I was referring - again - to African colonies”

    Doesn't really matter. It was true in Africa, but also in the great majority of colonies around the world. Including Brazil, as you say no one started developing its potential until independence. But I guess my point/question is, would Portugal have been better or worse off if they had treated Brazil as a place to develop rather than exploit? And the same for the African colonies, both before and after independence. Or how about the US with China? Opening up trade with China has made it richer and more developed, and it's made the US as a whole richer, but there are also downsides for the latter...

    I suppose it is easier to have all university applicants in one pool, especially when they are going only on exam results and not doing interviews or anything. Did the entry exams you took just give you one score, or was it split between areas (maths, language, etc)? I believe the US SAT is split between mathematics and reading/writing, and I've met enough perfectly smart people who claim to be bad at maths to think it's a different skill/aptitude.

    “I have long given up serious exchanges with Gollum, he is incapable of them”

    Me too. All he does is parrot other people's ideas. Sometimes they are worth reading, but he never has anything to contribute himself. Since I proved I was right about him he's just resorted to (even more) nonsensical babbling. He just can't stand admitting he's wrong.

    Jun 10th, 2019 - 08:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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    @DT / @JB

    REF: “he never has anything to contribute himself”:

    That's not true! From the size of the cucumber he is indicating in the photo; looks like PG is quite happy:
    https://en.mercopress.com/data/cache/noticias/70751/0x0/paulo-guedes.jpg

    Jun 11th, 2019 - 01:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    @DT
    “guess my point/question is, would Portugal have been better or worse off if they had treated Brazil as a place to develop rather than exploit?”
    I think POR would’ve been better off….what started to peeve the Brazilians and most of the less privileged Portuguese immigrants, was that Portugal treated them like second class citizens…I know that was just the way “Royalty” used to treat it’s citizens back then, and not easy to change, especially because they refused to even acknowledge it (although some must have been aware of simmering discontent). This became very clear when the Royal family packed up ‘n returned to POR in 1821, leaving the impression they would never consider Brazil as important as Portugal.
    But, had they treated everyone well, or at least the same, and even despite the independence movements before them – USA, France – they might have delayed independence, or even managed a smoother, more beneficial transition. It was a fight of wills, and the stronger won.

    When most public university entrance exams were unified, it didn’t sound particularly logical, despite the fact that students with better results would be closer to their first choices…however, it overlooked the fact that someone who wanted to do engineering might displace someone who wanted Medical school.
    When I did the exams, students were tested separately for Geography, History, Maths, English, and Portuguese. Each exam was weighted differently and marks produced a pondered average. At the USP, the top 450 candidates (out of abt 5,000), passed. And depending on your position, you could choose either AM, PM or night time.

    The reason Gollum never admits he’s wrong, is because he can’t tell the difference between the truth and a lie.

    Jun 11th, 2019 - 05:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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    @JB

    REF: “Brazil as a place to develop rather than exploit”:

    Developing needs plenty of time, money & patience. Exploitation is easier, simpler & quicker [cheaper too!]

    Jun 11th, 2019 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    @JB
    “I think POR would’ve been better off”

    And probably so would Britain, if the government then had let the American colonies run themselves, and/or given them some MPs and Lords in parliament to represent them. At least they learned their lesson with Canada, Australia etc. But the African colonies they treated differently, with the result that they lost the lot. And later perhaps, they repeated their mistakes with the newly independent countries, interfering with their governments in ways that later came back to bite us all. As the US interfered with Latin America, and bought themselves 10m illegal immigrants.

    Going back to Portugal, the dictatorship there insisted on keeping the remaining colonies, and similarly treated them as second class citizens. So doesn't look like they learned much from losing Brazil.

    Re exams, 450 out of 5000 is VERY competitive. But what happens if you get into more than one, do they offer your place to someone who didn't pass initially?

    It's a very different system; I stopped learning geography at 14, English, French and history at 16. Even ignoring the language issue, there's no way most A-level students would be able to get into university in Brazil. It's funny, I was very happy to drop those subjects, but it turns out I'm interested in all of them, and would like to know more now.

    Which subject did you do best in?

    “The reason Gollum never admits he’s wrong, is because he can’t tell the difference between the truth and a lie.”

    Yeah. There's obviously something slightly wrong with him, beyond just stupidity, but who knows what exactly.

    @ :o))
    I wasn't talking about Guedes. But judging by the picture he caught a fair-sized fish. :)

    Jun 11th, 2019 - 10:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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    @DemonTree

    REF: “judging by the picture he caught a fair-sized fish”:

    I thought that “The Size” referred to the Pepino + from the expression on his face; he doesn't look too happy that it got knowingly/willingly inserted:
    http://www.chargeonline.com.br/php/charges/laerte.jpg

    Jun 12th, 2019 - 12:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    @JB
    Forgot to say, what is a 'pondered average'? Weighted average, maybe? Makes me wonder why so many people took the test if it's that competitive, surely they had some idea whether they'd pass or not?

    @ :o))
    It's not that impressive... ;)

    Jun 12th, 2019 - 01:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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    @DemonTree

    REF: “It's not that impressive”:

    :o))))))

    To make it much simpler:
    - It all depends upon who ones favorite crook/s is/are
    - if one can't find anything admirable in one's own favorite crook; it's much easier to criticize the other crooks!
    -
    http://www.chargeonline.com.br/php/charges/laerte.jpg

    Jun 12th, 2019 - 02:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    DT
    “And probably so would Britain, if the government then had let the American colonies run themselves, 'n/or given them some MPs & Lords in parliament to represent them”
    Back then who thought the 'good times ' would come to an end ? with hindsight it's easy to propose solutions which might have delayed independence, or even created a good, lasting relationship..

    “At least they learned their lesson with Canada, Australia etc. But the African colonies they treated differently.....CDA & AUS weren't exploited in the same way as Africa was, so understandable things were different.

    ”As the US interfered with Latin America, and bought themselves 10m illegal immigrants“
    That is probably what you learn at school, but believe me, Central and S.America are backward and in the mess they are, without any help from the US...what's 99% responsible for the mess is the mindset of the people who inhabit LatAm. The blame rests within.

    ”So doesn't look like they learned much from losing Brazil“...and since when do politicians learn from history ?

    ”...what happens if you get into more than one ?“.....you opt for one and vacancy you left goes to the next in line under the initial cut-off grade.

    I did pretty well all round, with the exception of higher maths, which I just scraped by. Problem was we had to memorize tons of formulas, miles long...this resulted in many cheating, such as writing as many formulas as would fit on cheat papers or on your arms...we got pretty good at writing small and legibly. I enjoyed history, and most subjects to do with business administration, finance, 'n law...

    ”Pondered“ average....sorry, translated literally from Portuguese, ”média ponderada”...it IS weighted average. Back then, public schools had a far better reputation than they do today, so much so, when a kid wasn't bright, he'd usually transfer to some shitty private school, where he'd be guaranteed satisfactory grades. So students, all round, were probably better prepared than today.

    Jun 12th, 2019 - 05:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    They probably thought they could win the US war of independence. Would have been more sensible not to have one, though, wouldn't it?

    “since when do politicians learn from history ?”

    Like I said, ours learned something after losing the 13 states. Canada etc became independent peacefully. So it is possible, though rare.

    “That is probably what you learn at school”

    Hardly. We didn't learn one single thing about Latin America at school. I'm not exaggerating. Maybe if you go to private school you get a better education, but maybe not; they do the same exams. Everything I know is from the internet, news, and books. I certainly don't blame the US for all Latin America's problems, but they did contribute, by sponsoring coups, exploiting the people for profit, and creating the war on drugs.

    “Problem was we had to memorize tons of formulas”

    Sign of a poorly designed exam, I reckon. Real maths isn't about memorising formulas, you can look them up if you need to. It should be about knowing how to apply them and understanding what you're doing. In some of our tests we were allowed to bring in a single sheet of A4 with all the formulas written on it. Of course, by the time you're written it, you've probably memorised most of them anyway. Did you fill your arms with formulas, too?

    I also enjoyed history, just wished we'd covered more of it. There were extra modules in some of the textbooks, which I read during the boring parts of the lessons, but I don't remember much now. One was about the French revolution, storming the Bastille and the Terror. There was a big painting of Charlotte Corday assassinating some guy called Marat - that stuck in my memory.

    Aren't finance and bus. admin kinda dull, though? And law just seems a bit crazy, words with twisted meanings, and you're forbidden to apply common sense.

    Did the private schools just hand out good grades to anyone who paid? That's pretty shitty, can see why the universities would want to run their own tests.

    Jun 12th, 2019 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jack Bauer

    DT
    “They probably thought they could win the US war of independence. Would've been more sensible not to have one, though, wouldn't it?” Pretty obvious they weren't trying to piss the Americans off with the intention of provoking a war...but it got to that point. It's easy to give advice after the event.

    “..ours learned something after losing the 13 states”....yeah, that they'd probably lose again, if they went to war to hold on to Canada...anyway, CDA's independence came about 100 years later, and remained within the British Empire....Quite different. Anyway, I was not discussing the (rare) exceptions.

    “I certainly don't blame the US for all Latin America's problems, but they did contribute, by sponsoring coups, exploiting the people for profit, 'n creating the war on drugs”
    Given that S.Americans are what they are, no use blaming the US for their misfortunes ...even Brazilians have stopped using thar feeble excuse.....they know (but won't admit) the problem is internal.
    If you've always relied on the internet 'n dodgy journalism to form your opinions, just remember, they are a paradise for biased and/or fake news.
    All you need to do is look at Brazil from discovery to 1950....it was doing pretty much it's own thing, with little foreign interference. Both USA 'n Brazil were discovered /colonized at the same time...the difference today is a result of the different approach 200 years ago. No use excusing Brazil.
    Take a look at Nigeria...why didn't it go ahead, even after the Biafran War ? 'perhaps' because of the rotten local mindset ? they're their own worst enemy.

    And before the war on drugs, came the big drug problem, which supports organized crime. Has to be fought.

    Memorizing formulas makes no sense, but that's how it was. I wrote on the inside of my wrists. Cuffs 'n sweat were problems.

    Finance & biz admin....maybe to you, not me. Found Law interesting.

    Not the good, international schools. Exams were necry because of the limited nbr of vacancies.

    Jun 13th, 2019 - 06:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • DemonTree

    “they weren't trying to piss the Americans off”

    True. They weren't doing it deliberately, but I don't think they cared too much if they did. They thought they could get their way by force.

    Afterwards they learned to compromise and keep a good relationship, but didn't apply the lesson to the other colonies.

    “Given that S.Americans are what they are”

    What are they? They seem to do well enough, and work hard enough, when they move to the US. Why can't they do the same at home? As for the internet and journalism, you didn't seem to think formal education was any more reliable. The book I read was called Open Veins of Latin America, it mentioned a lot of foreign interference prior to 1950. Not necessarily state interference, but foreign-owned companies - and the US would act to protect its companies' profits.

    As for Nigeria, don't know why it didn't grow, but I reckon it's quite a bit richer now than when you were there. Its economy is now the largest in Africa, ahead of SA.

    “And before the war on drugs, came the big drug problem, which supports organized crime.”

    Drugs only support organised crime because they are banned, same as alcohol during Prohibition. That was done to fix the problems of alcoholism and alcohol-fuelled anti-social behaviour, but the cure was worse than the disease. A more constructive approach to drug use and addiction would be much better for society.

    Re Finance & biz admin, never learned any, to be fair. And if you studied law, that must make Terry's abuse of it even more annoying.

    “Exams were necry because of the limited nbr of vacancies.”

    Our universities have to make do with interviews, now such a high % of people get 'A's. Though Cambridge had their own exam for maths, the STEP. You can see a past paper here:

    https://mathsorchard.weebly.com/uploads/2/7/3/1/27311819/step_1_2017.pdf

    I passed, though not with high marks. I'd have no chance today; can't remember a thing. But I never wrote anything on my wrists.

    Jun 13th, 2019 - 11:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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