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Argentina recalls the Day of Affirmation of its Rights over the South Atlantic Islands

Tuesday, June 11th 2019 - 07:18 UTC
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Argentina recalled on Monday, 10 June, a new anniversary of the creation in 1829 of the “Political and Military command headquarters of the Malvinas Islands and adjacencies to Cape Horn in the Atlantic Sea”, and which has been incorporated to the official calendar as the Day of Affirmation of Argentine Rights over the Malvinas, South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands and its surrounding maritime spaces. Read full article

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  • Roger Lorton

    Argentina celebrating the day in 1829 when it announced a proposed theft.

    Didn't go well.

    Is it just Argentines, or do all of south America celebrate their cock-ups?

    Jun 11th, 2019 - 07:49 am - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Think

    By the way...

    As I have been anticipating..., in the Day of Affirmation of our Rights over the South Atlantic Islands..., we have presented a precautionary measure against Tullow Oil and Equinor ASA...
    https://www.eldestapeweb.com/nota/piden-que-no-se-autorice-la-explotacion-de-hidrocarburos-a-favor-de-empresas-extranjeras-en-malvinas-20196101990

    Let the game begin..., again...
    Chuckle..., chuckle...

    Jun 11th, 2019 - 08:25 am - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Brit Bob

    The Papal bulls and the Treaty of Tordesillas gave the Falklands and Britain’s South Atlantic territories to Spain. Relevant today?

    Papal Bulls & Treaty of Tortdesillas – Falklands (1 pg): https://www.academia.edu/38288551/Papal_Bulls_and_Treaty_of_Tortdesillas_-_Falklands

    Jun 11th, 2019 - 09:11 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • DemonTree

    @Think
    I was watching the new Good Omens TV series, and yesterday I realised who Sgt Shadwell reminded me of: you. Must be the dodgy Scottish accent... ;)

    Jun 11th, 2019 - 09:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    I'm taller..., prettier and green eyed..., boy...
    Besides... I fancy to se meself more as a Sgt. Wilson type of chap...
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8VWdsawRrY

    Jun 11th, 2019 - 10:30 am - Link - Report abuse -4
  • DemonTree

    Widows, huh? I hope you're more careful than Sgt Wilson was...

    PS. Green's my favourite colour.

    Jun 11th, 2019 - 12:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brit Bob

    Argentina recalled on Monday, 10 June, a new anniversary of the creation in 1829 of the “Political and Military command headquarters of the Malvinas Islands and adjacencies to Cape Horn in the Atlantic Sea”, and which has been incorporated to the official calendar as the Day of Affirmation of Argentine Rights over the Malvinas, South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands and its surrounding maritime spaces.

    Escude´explained that the intensification of ''territorial indoctrination'' had a snowball effect. It began in 1947 and by 1979 Argentinians were already mentally conditioned to go to war, if necessary to protect a particular image of the national territory. The image taught to two generations of Argentinians was that the national territory was composed of two parts: ''the continental territory'' and the ''imaginary territory'' and the imaginary territory made up of the ''Antarctic region'' and the ''ocean islands'' (Parodi, C.A. quoting Escude´ C. 1988).

    Sad indoctrinated people.

    Jun 11th, 2019 - 12:36 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • viejopatagon

    Papal Bull??? What's that got to do with Anglican England? It's as if Merco Press declares that flag of England should be green and pink. Who would honor it? Who is Merco Press to make such determinations?

    Jun 11th, 2019 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • :o))

    The economy is so bad; it's completely beyond repairs. They can't even look after their own land + their own people! Acquiring more land & that too by confrontation will drain the economy faster than ever!

    So, maybe it's better to sell the country itself - partially or wholly [if at all there ARE buyers]!

    Jun 11th, 2019 - 03:33 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Think

    Widows down here are a real danger..., boy...
    They outlive their mates by decennials in the ranches around...
    Some of them sit on more square miles of prime land that I have years..
    And they seem to be always on the look for someone to mend their fences...

    Jun 11th, 2019 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • DemonTree

    What's so dangerous about that?

    Jun 11th, 2019 - 04:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Room101

    “The first voyager known to set foot on the island, in 1775, was Captain James Cook. He and his crew landed at three places around Possession Bay and partly charted the coastline. Cook gave the name Cape Disappointment to the southern tip of the main island when he realized this was not continental Antarctica. An officer of the Royal Navy, Cook named it The Isle of Georgia in honor of his king.” Feet on the Islands, claimed and not not imaginary.

    Jun 11th, 2019 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Think

    Mr. DemonTree...

    Her whisky tablet...

    That devil adds more than a wee of 22 years old fragant Speyside...

    Jun 11th, 2019 - 08:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    There isn't one facet of international law that supports an Argentine claim. Every judgement that has been made concerning such claims supports the UK and every opinion from judges of the ICJ likewise.
    “The Island of Palmas tribunal of the PCA at the Hague explicitly recognized the validity of conquest as a mode of acquiring territory when it declared in its decision that:
    “If a dispute arises as to the sovereignty over a portion of territory, it is customary to examine which of the States claiming sovereignty possesses a title—cession conquest, occupation, etc.—superior to that which the other State might possibly bring forward against it.”
    ”There is a general principle, in international law jurisprudence, that claims may be extinguished by the passage of time.
    “The principle of extinctive prescription, that is, the bar of claims by lapse of time, is recognized by international law. It has been applied by arbitration tribunals in a number of cases. The application of the principle is flexible and there are no fixed time limits…. Undue delay in presenting a claim, which may lead to it being barred, is to distinguished from effects of the passage of time on the merits of the claim in cases where the claimant state has, by failing to protest or otherwise, given evidence of acquiescence’”: I Oppenheim 526 and 527. See Cheng, General Principles of Law as Applied by International Courts and Tribunals (1953), Chap. 18; King, Prescription of Claims in International Law, (1934) 15 B.Y.I.L. 82. Cf. prescription, acquisitive.
    So the UK can prove jurisdiction as to title, and the last time I looked they have tossed a claim that exceeded thirty years (The Gentini case PCA 1903).
    Moreover, you cannot apply modern law. With so much precedent in their corner, they look like their claim is in pretty good shape.

    Jun 11th, 2019 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • DemonTree

    Thought you said you don't drink no more, Think?

    Missing that 22 year old Speyside? Or are you still craving a hotdog?

    Jun 11th, 2019 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Think

    Not much spirit left in her fudge...
    But the scent, boy........., the scent... ;-)

    Jun 11th, 2019 - 09:49 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Don Alberto

    The usual Mickey Mouse show based on dreams. Jeeeez, don't they ever get tired of such junk and repair their own country instead?

    Jun 12th, 2019 - 02:30 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • :o))

    Celebrating a shameful incident is so typical of the Argies!

    Jun 12th, 2019 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • HansNiesund

    If they're dating the claim from 1829, does this mean we can forget the hilarious Jewett part of the story?

    Jun 13th, 2019 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jlt

    Bunch of bitter British Trolls.

    Jun 17th, 2019 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • :o))

    @Room101

    REF: “The first voyager known to set foot on the island”:

    How come he missed the mainland completely and found a tiny island instead? Maybe a case of Failed-GPS?

    Jun 17th, 2019 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Terence Hill

    jlt
    Nothing to be bitter about as they have the 'colour of right' while 'inheritance' is a 'peculiarity' of SA. Which was not adopted by Argentina until after 1848, and cannot be applied retroactively to 1833.

    Jun 17th, 2019 - 04:50 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • :o))

    As I asked elsewhere, does anyone in the right mind really think that a Country [= USED Toilet-Paper] is worth buying or selling? So, why is the population struggling so fiercely to elect yet another corrupt leader?

    Jun 19th, 2019 - 04:33 pm - Link - Report abuse -1

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