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Bolsonaro involved in child labor controversy: “I've been working since I was eight-year-old”
Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro, no stranger to controversy, sparked strong reaction by repeatedly defending the practice of child labor. “I've been working since I was eight years old... and today I am what I am,” the far-right leader said during his weekly live forum on Facebook. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesAmazing how the press - and left-wingers, like the communist Marcelo Freixo - love to distort the truth. Bolsonaro says he worked from the age of eight, and sees nothing wrong with it...the press - perhaps not MP, but other outlets and the left - insinuates he is incentivizing child 'slave' labour....slave labor IS a crime, regardless of age, but people in 1st world countries seem to ignore the fact that with the poverty in Brazil - despite 14 wonderful years under the PT, which supposedly took 40 million out of poverty and inserted them in the middle class - it is very common for parents in very poor families, to make their children pull their own weight.
Jul 09th, 2019 - 03:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lula on the other hand, did not even complete fundamental schooling, and went on to claim that studying is not essential to be sucessful, using himself as the example.....yeah, great example - and look where he ended up...behind bars. Behind his comment is his latent hatred of those who did complete their education.
Being “smart and smug” does not translate into intelligent. Lula is an example of that.
Freixo's comments, referring to Bolsonaro : ”He is the best example to incite a child not to work -- to keep him from growing up to become an adult like (Bolsonaro), with so much hatred and such incompetence“, are extremely stupid.....
Regarding Bolsonaro telling ”a congressional colleague (she) was not worth raping because she was ugly” was only his reply to the same ugly woman's accusation (of a few days earlier) that he was a rapist.....but what provoked his answer is conveniently ignored.
100% agree with Freixo. B's ignorance and small-mindedness are obvious. What an appalling thing to say in a country where so many kids are still forced to leave school at a young age to earn money for their families. Even the dictatorship tried to improve education! But an ignorant population is much more convenient for politicians. Easier to manipulate and exploit.
Jul 09th, 2019 - 09:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0REF: “I worked from the age of eight planting corn, picking bananas”:
Jul 09th, 2019 - 11:30 pm - Link - Report abuse +2The poor fellow could not afford toys when he was a kid. That explains why he is now playing with his mostly absurd tweets!
“I've been working since I was eight years old...“
Jul 11th, 2019 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse -1This pasty faced looking individual who doesn't look like he's worked a day in his life. Simply unbelievable from a man who's best commendations from the only other career were. ”Ernesto Geisel, the general who presided over Brazil’s dictatorship from 1974 to 1979 — in a compendium of interviews published in 1997 by the Getulio Vargas Foundation (FGV) academic institution — called Mr Bolsonaro a “bad military man” and “His commanding officer described him as a man of “excessive financial ambition ... lacking logic, rationality and balance” As in his thirty odd years of politics he has achieved nothing other than opening his ignorant mouth.
It's highly impressive - mind-boggling, actually - to see the masses eager, willing and euphorically celebrating:
Jul 11th, 2019 - 02:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0- getting paid lesser
- working for longer periods
- giving up their constitutional rights
- deprive themselves of the social benefits
- allow the crooks to fleece them
https://politica.estadao.com.br/noticias/geral,maia-diz-que-nao-e-exagero-fundo-de-r-3-7-bi-para-eleicoes-em-2020,70002916125?utm_source=twitter:newsfeed&utm_medium=social-organic&utm_campaign=redes-sociais:072019:e&utm_content=:::&utm_term=
DT
Jul 11th, 2019 - 10:29 pm - Link - Report abuse -1“100% agree with Freixo. B's ignorance and small-mindedness are obvious.”
Marcelo Freixo ignores the fact that this problem here, is centuries old....not created by Bolsonaro... and what has Freixo done to try to reduce it ? Nothing that can be seen....but he takes the opportunity to criticize Bolsonaro , as if that is why he was elected....as long as he is the extreme opposition, that seems to justify his existence: like most politicians, he criticizes without lifting one finger to solve the problem.
As far as Bolsonaro is concerned, while what he said is no great shock to any one who knows Brazil's reality, he should've been more diplomatic, and in that that sense I agree with criticism regarding how he expressed himself.
And I agree with your statement, “But an ignorant population is much more convenient for politicians. Easier to manipulate and exploit.”......you will recall that I have said that many times....and the PT treated the problem no differently than their predecessors.
The fact is that Brazil, due its size, population, heritage (and some other things), is unique in the world, and what goes on here cannot be analyzed from a European perspective, without running the risk of comparing oranges to bananas. That's one thing Europeans in general, including you, just can't grasp...asking “but why can't this, that or the next ....”.
To understand it, which does not mean accepting it, you have to live here....eventually, even those who doubt that certain things here are possible, or even impossible, end up resigning themselves to the fact that Brazil is a different cup of tea.....forget idealism.....it's just useless rhetoric around here.
As I said in my last post under “Moro considered ...”...“FUI”....translated means, “I've gone”....I'm going to take a rest from MP for a while - I've had enough of useless exchanges, re which at the end, we usually agree to disagree. So be it. Until sometime in the future.
I think Bolsonaro just likes saying controversial shit to stir up trouble. It worked when he was a Congressman to get publicity and supporters, and maybe his hard-core support still appreciate it. It seems to work well as a strategy for Trump, after all.
Jul 12th, 2019 - 08:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0As for the topic, IMO it's good for children to help out around the house in a way appropriate to their age, and beneficial for teenagers to have part time jobs. But kids being forced to leave school early to earn money for their families is obviously damaging to their future, and something the government should be doing their best to put a stop to.
JB
I wish I'd seen this before I wrote a long answer on the other story...
Don't know if you'll see this, but I've enjoyed talking to you, even if it was often frustrating. Have a good life.
@DT
Jul 12th, 2019 - 11:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0REF: “It seems to work well as a strategy for Trump, after all”
Did you forget that the Nº of Ignorants+Retarded+Brainwashed is ALWAYS a majority - in most of the countries - including in the 1st World? So in the 3rd World, the situation is much better:
https://www.otempo.com.br/image/contentid/policy:1.2207755:1562802970/CHARGE%20O%20TEMPO.JPG?f=3x2&q=0.6&w=620&$p$f$q$w=904c3fd
DT
Jul 12th, 2019 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Just to end on a non-belligerant note....I don't think B does it deliberately, to gain publicity - that would require a smarter mind, to controversial in the right measure - I really believe it's just his manner, and he should take some lessons in diplomacy.
Likewise, been interesting talking to you....frustrating ? yeah sometimes. Rgdng your political views, they might eventually converge more to center - when you get to travel extensively and you open your eyes enough to see the 3rd world for what it really is - the good and the bad - and how it works, instead of relying on what the international press, largely leftist, feeds you, which - IMO - does a disservice to society when it misinforms, or when it simply omits what it doesn't agree with.
I might poke my nose in again, now 'n again, if nothing better to do.
@JB
Jul 13th, 2019 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0REF: “that would require a smarter mind”:
If he wasn't smart, he wouldn't reach the level of a president.
On the contrary; he is a Strategist & is Clever Enough at that:
- To Effectively “Wipe-Out/Buy” the opposition.
- To choose his Team
- To Choose “sides”
- To mesmerize his devotees
- To make the masses Forget/Bury/Hide The Scandals [nobody remembers Queiroz, the 39 Kgs of cocaine, militia, etc, etc]
- To justify and plan well in advance, his son's appointment as the ambassador [probably permanent] in the US [was it luck?]
SO WHAT IF HE POSES AS AN IDIOT?
Jair Bolsonaro Is Weaker Than He Looks
Jul 14th, 2019 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Its largest demos since 2013 against the 30% cut in education.
The government composed of alt-right, religious cons, conspiracy theorists, Holy Crusade LARPers, and figures who, despite disparaging universities, are caught lying about their academic credentials. Their guru is a flat-earther US astrologer who fancies himself a great philosopher and claims to have refuted Copernicus and Einstein.
What they describe as to defend “Western values”. It is important for them to eliminate any way of accessing a world other than the one they have fabricated. Is, therefore, a full-blown war on reality. The more they can do so, the freer they will be from the resistance of the real world.
Bolsonaro’s reaction to the country’s soaring unemployment rate has been to question its calculation, and then attack the federal organ, slashing its budget and to revise its methodologies.
The government planned to defund the humanities in favour of areas that offered an “immediate return” to society — is to ignore that the humanities are the areas that most students from poor backgrounds go into and that their primary role is to train teachers for a deprived basic education.
The minister communicated a 30% budget cut to three universities that were allegedly underperforming because of internal “disorder”; even though they have been among Brazil’s top 20 for decades. Mostly of on-campus political activity, making the motivations behind the decision explicit.
It is part of the overall plan to ensure a predatory round of accumulation for Brazilian and international capital, also visible in the aggressive rollback of environmental guarantees, an extremely market-friendly pension reform, and the elimination of 90% of labour safety regulations.
Anyone familiar with the reality of basic education is unlikely to believe its biggest problem is anything other than lack of funds.
https://thewire.in/world/jair-bolsonaro-is-weaker-than-he-looks
@Terence Hill
Jul 15th, 2019 - 01:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0REF: Education
On the +ve side; very soon, Brazil may be recognized & honored as the location of the cheapest and the largest exporter Manual Labor. This, in turn, can generate huge Foreign Exchange for hiding in the Off-Shore Banks [in St Martine?]. By the way, St. Martine - officially - is no longer considered as a “Fiscal Paradise” [EVER wondered WHY?]
Lula da Silva’s Attorney: Intercept Revelations Confirm Political and Unfair Trial
Jul 15th, 2019 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse -1July 15, 2019
GREG WILPER What do the revelations say about Brazil’s judiciary?
Valeska Tiexiera Zanin Martins, Lula's co-defense counsel.
When you go back to the Bangalore Rules, for instance, in the United they came up with ethics, rules of ethics, for all magistrates. Those rules are supposed to be followed and obeyed by all magistrates, all judges around the world,
GREG WILPERT Can Lula’s conviction still be overturned?
Martins What the latest revelations by The Intercept do is confirm what we’ve always been saying in all of the courts in terms of the suspicions and the motivations of this trial— that it was in fact politically-motivated, and it was an unfair trial. Therefore, a tainted trial. All of the procedures of the Car Wash Operation regarding Lula are tainted because they were carried out by a motivated, actually, an enemy of Lula, a politically-motivated enemy of former President Lula. Therefore, we are very confident that all of the investigations will be overturned, annulled, and he may be freed in the near future.
GREG WILPERT What can you tell us about the role that the US Justice Department has played in the Lava Jato prosecutions and in Lula’s prosecutions?
Martins This is also one of the arguments that we’ve used in the first conviction of Lula— actually, the one that he is in jail for— because there is a video that was released by one of the DOJ prosecutors, Mr. Kenneth Blanco, whereby he explicitly says that the Brazilian authorities and the DOJ prosecutors have been working informally. And that is how Lula’s conviction actually was able to be successful. That is actually against our law, against Brazil and the United States’ treaty,
https://therealnews.com/stories/lula-da-silvas-attorney-intercept-revelations-confirm-political-and-unfair-trial
@DemonTree
Jul 17th, 2019 - 02:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0REF: “so many kids are still forced to leave school at a young age to earn money for their families”:
SO WHAT?
Even the president sold bananas [he says] + his son, following the right example, sold burgers [he says] when they were children:
http://www.chargeonline.com.br/php/charges/AUTO_cazo.jpg
“US admits role in Operation Lava Jato, brags about Lula conviction
Jul 17th, 2019 - 09:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In his speech, Blanco says, “the cooperation between the [US Justice] Department and Brazil has led to ...” He highlights the criminal charges against former President Lula which … for allegedly receiving illegal reforms on an apartment the prosecutors were unable to prove he ever owned or set foot in, as putting Brazil at the “forefront” of countries fighting corruption. “At the core between our two countries is a strong relationship built on trust. This trust allows prosecutors and agents to have direct communications regarding evidence. Given the relationship between the Depart. and the Brazilian prosecutors, we don’t need to rely solely on formal processes such as legal assistance treaties, which often take time and resources to draft, translate, formally transmit, and respond to.”
The Lava Jato investigation has been hailed in the Anglo press as an objective anti-corruption investigation, but to date it has almost exclusively targeted center-left politicians across South America while ignoring much larger bribery and money laundering charges against conservatives, especially those involving the Brazilian PSDB party,. A December 22, 2017 Folha de São Paulo article shows that investigators have ignored and maintained in secrecy, more than half of the evidence produced implicating the Odebrecht construction company. ... Brasil’s elected President Dilma Rousseff was impeached for committing a technically non-impeachable infraction, involving no bribery or personal enrichment, that she was later exonerated from. ... The fact that it publicly admits collaboration with the Lava Jato investigation, which is specifically targeting left and center left governments, shows that the real purpose is not fighting corruption but opening up markets and lowering taxes for US corporations operating in the area”
http://www.brasilwire.com/us-admits-role-operation-lava-jato/
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