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Tierra del Fuego condemns 1989 Madrid Treaty and UK “unilateral actions” in the South Atlantic
“Thirty years since the Madrid Treaty: rethinking a new national strategy for Malvinas”, was the heading of the conference held in the extreme south Argentine province of Tierra del Fuego with the participation of the governor, Rosana Bertone, former foreign minister Jorge Bielsa, and the Malvinas Question related affairs Secretary, Jorge Arguello a diplomat and one of possible foreign minister names if the opposition candidate Alberto Fernandez wins the presidential election this month. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesPerhaps we ought to go along with TdF's mad plans and tear up the '99 Agreement. We'll bring in more protection vessels to aid the trawlers and stop S. American piracy, guard the oil-rigs and no longer stop off in Argentina with LATAM. Of course, this may cause a bit of a problem with veterans from Argentina getting to the Falkland Islands but you don't make omelettes without breaking a few eggs.
Oct 12th, 2019 - 09:31 am - Link - Report abuse +3Dear old Rosana bangs on about being our true governor but she never responds to emails or tweets and she has never visited. She ought to be happy for us, with our economy and everything.
TWIMC...
Oct 12th, 2019 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse -5High time to repudiate the 89 agreement...
Has only benefitted them Engrish squatters during the last 30 years...
The RRS Sir David Attenborough's flagging is but their latest spit in our eye...
Repudiate Herr Think?
Oct 12th, 2019 - 10:28 am - Link - Report abuse +4October 19th, a joint statement is issued at the conclusion of the negotiations; agreeing: that hostilities between Britain and Argentina have ceased; the resumption of consular relations; the creation of a working group to consider measures for building confidence and avoiding military incidents; the Protection Zone to be aligned with the Conservation Zone; the lifting of all remaining restrictions between the two countries; Air and sea links
to reopen; and the creation of a working group to consider issues surrounding fishing.
“The two Governments noted that all hostilities between them had ceased. Each Government undertook not to pursue any claim against the other, including nationals of
the other, in respect of loss or damage arising from the hostilities and all other action in and
around the Falkland Islands, South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands before 1989.”
Would that include unaccepting that hostilities over? Would that include the UK commencing compensation claims against the Argentine Government for the costs of the war?
Have you thought this through Think?
https://falklandstimeline.files.wordpress.com/2019/06/1982-to-1999.pdf
What a sad lot we have to live alongside in this modern world. Argentina is still war mongering and cannot accept that they were firmly defeated in their act of aggression in 1982.
Oct 12th, 2019 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse +4When will they ever start accepting that we the Falkland Island people are going nowhere and accept that we have as much if not more right to live and develope our own economy without the persistent threats from a neighbour that today still wants to steal our sovereign rights.
That is why we can never again trust them.
Britain may have agreed to better relations with Argentina but because Argentina refuses to accept we Falklan Islanders exist I p
Voice, V0ice, Vestige, Think et al, sock-puppeteer extraordinaire and mythology major
Oct 12th, 2019 - 01:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“High time to repudiate the 89 agreement...”
The only aggression that had been initiated, and continues to proffered is by Argentina.
“Secretary Haig notes; “It appears that fighting on the Falklands has ended. However, Argentina will not renounce its claim to the Islands. Unless Argentina and the United Kingdom agree on a permanent solution, a future resumption of fighting cannot be ruled out.”
https://falklandstimeline.files.wordpress.com/2019/06/1982-to-1999.pdf
Thanks to RL.
Juppppp..., copper...
Oct 12th, 2019 - 01:14 pm - Link - Report abuse -4If your Engrish pirates want to commence hostilities and stick your pinkish Willy in that dead pigs mouth.., be my guest...
If your Engrish pirates also want to stick your pinkish Willy in that hornet's nest and commence compensation claims against the Argentinean Government for the costs of the Malvinas conflict..., be my guest...
Both would be quite functional for our claim..
Would that include unaccepting that hostilities over? Would that include the UK commencing compensation claims against the Argentine Government for the costs of the war?
Have you thought this through Think?
You appear to have some hang-up with pinkish willies Old Man. Is that a sexual fantasy thing? Though you were passed such nonsense.
Oct 12th, 2019 - 01:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How would either be 'functional' for your spurious claim?
Britain ceased hostilities in 1982. It was Argentina that continued with them until 1989. If Argentina repudiates the 1989 declaration then it will be Argentina that is reopening hostilities. Still, in these times of political chaos, a Tory Leader might appreciate a distraction.
As for compensation, I've always suspected that the UK not pursuing same was the quid pro quo for no more UN Resolutions. It was that 1989 agreement that brought the UN GA Resolutions to a halt was it not? 30 years with no UN GA involvement. Argentina must have been expecting a really big bill ;-)
Copper...
Oct 12th, 2019 - 01:53 pm - Link - Report abuse -5Our good auld pinkish Willies a...: “Nonsense”... !?!
Is that what the Thai missus is telling her dear Farang... ?!?
You pooooooooooooooooooooooooooor little pale sausage ;-)))
You are sooooo right on your other point..., though...
You Engrish pirates could really use a “GOTCHA!” frontpage right now...
Jog on THINK you cynical old fart. You know and I know that you and Argentina WILL NOT change the status quo. THE FALKLANDS WILL remain a BOT as long as the FALKLANDERS wish.
Oct 12th, 2019 - 02:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Them Engrish pirates are some funny turnips...
Oct 12th, 2019 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse -3All of a sudden turnip golfcronie starts PRAISING me by calling me a cynic...!
https://www.philosophybasics.com/movements_cynicism.html#targetText=Cynicism%20is%20a%20school%20of,bare%20necessities%20required%20for%20existence).
I'm not worthy...!
I say, chaps ! Break a treaty ?
Oct 12th, 2019 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse +2An Argy's word is his bond and worth its weight in Argy pesos.
Voice, V0ice, Vestige, Think et al, sock-puppeteer extraordinaire and mythology major
Oct 12th, 2019 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse +1“Them Engrish pirates ...” Oh no the only pirates historically were in the pay of Buenos Aires.
The only pirates in the area were from “There is scarcely a Buenos Ayrean privateer which has not committed piracy of every description” John Quincy Adams July 20th, 1820. David Jewett, and Louis Vernet
Mr. Pipino...
Oct 12th, 2019 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse -3I say..., chaps of the World... Do never make a treaty with them Engrish Pirates..
An Argy's word is his bond and it may well be as little worth as our peso...
But still..., a humonguous lot more worth that an Engrishman's word...
Minus €60 billion is the current worth of an Engrishmans word...
But..., don't take me word for it... Ask any EUropean...
England kept her side of Madrid and doesn't treat promises as pie-crust.
Oct 12th, 2019 - 06:47 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Just be thankful that the IMF still likes your bonds.
Mr. Pepino...
Oct 12th, 2019 - 07:42 pm - Link - Report abuse -3Since Madrid 89..., you Engrish pirates have..., UNCONSULTED AND UNILATERALLY..., created a fishery licence system that extracts YEARLY ~500,000 tonnes of fish and cephalopoda from our wates...
Since Madrid 89..., you Engrish pirates have..., UNCONSULTED AND UNILATERALLY..., tried (and luckily failed..) to create an oil adventure that would have extracted billions of oil barrels from our wates...
You..., Engrish squatting pirates kept your side of Madrid..........., MY LEFT FOOT...!
Voice, V0ice, Vestige, Think et al, sock-puppeteer extraordinaire and mythology major
Oct 12th, 2019 - 08:58 pm - Link - Report abuse +2“a humonguous lot more worth that an Engrishman's word...” If that was true you would be able to show where. Apparently it's a lot reliable than any Argentine word. Since the US has complained from Adam's to US chargé d'affaires Francis Baylies who wrote about Argentina in 1832 “...The revolutions of these people are seditious; their knowledge. chicanery and trickery; their patriotism, their liberty, a farce... ”
Baylies held that the US should sign no treaty ...for we would abide by it, and they would consider the violation no greater offense than a lie told by a schoolboy...”
http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/argentina/rosas.pdf
While to the present time Argentina is in still in breach of the UN Charter.
Keep their word? The land of viveza criolla?
Oct 12th, 2019 - 10:37 pm - Link - Report abuse +21832 July 24th, US Envoy Baylies, writes to Secretary Livingston in a letter. Previously authorised to negotiate a commercial treaty if appropriate, Baylies states that he opposes the notion.
“… for we should abide by it, and they would consider the violation of a treaty no greater offence than a lie told by schoolboy. With the Bey of Tripoli or the Emperor of Morocco we might for a time maintain unviolated the provisions of a Treaty but with these people if a temporary advantage could be gained they would violate a treaty on the day of its ratification.”
Unilateral action is legal within your own territory Think, and the Falklands are in ours - not yours. Oh, and please do not waste your time quoting long-dead UN GA Resolutions. The GA have had nothing to say in 30 years despite there being an opportunity for any Member to raise the subject at any time. Argentina is still a member? No? Possibly not, I see Argentina still has not paid its 2019 dues ;-)
That old tactic of poor economy so divert attention away with conflict talk.
Oct 13th, 2019 - 10:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0@THINK
Oct 13th, 2019 - 12:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Except, they are not your waters, are they.
And actually never have been, they have been British since long before
Argentina existed in any form.
This is the fundamental flaw in your thinking.
P.S. You might want to see someone about these fetishes you seem to
be experiencing. Or perhaps just don’t talk about them out loud!
Silly me...
Oct 13th, 2019 - 08:23 pm - Link - Report abuse -2Thus you can see...
One is never too auld to learn something new...!
After reading about “IT” in dozens of Engrish newspaper frontpages and hundreds of articles..., I was convinced that sticking ones pinkish Engrish Willy in a dead pigs mouth was a nationally accepted & important rite of passage of the Engrish Èlite to choose the right ones to guide their Queendom subdits to a brighter future...
Imagine this humble Patagonian embarrassment when told..., by two certified Engrish patriots in here..., that it is just a sexual fetiche one is not supposed to talk loud about...!
Hope I didn't make any Anglo in here gag i their Engrish Sausage Casserolle dinner...
Voice, V0ice, Vestige, Think et al, sock-puppeteer extraordinaire and mythology major
Oct 13th, 2019 - 08:58 pm - Link - Report abuse +1“One is never too auld to learn something new.”
So you are unable to refute that Argentina is both completely untruthful and unreliable in her international dealings, as I have proved.
Argentina is in still in breach of the UN Charter. So you have not a single fact to support your claim.
So like all losers you fall back on the old argumentum ad hominem.
Gauchito Drink and Kamerad/Komrade Rique are both living proof of “falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus.”
Oct 15th, 2019 - 03:54 am - Link - Report abuse +1England will return the Malvinas within 25 years.
Oct 17th, 2019 - 04:22 am - Link - Report abuse -1Lu or whoever you call yourself.
Oct 17th, 2019 - 11:48 am - Link - Report abuse +1Never in a month of Sundays.
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