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Nisman's death controversy reignited: “there isn't a shred of proof” he was murdered, says president Fernandez

Friday, January 3rd 2020 - 09:55 UTC
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Argentine President Alberto Fernandez said on Thursday he doubts that a prosecutor who died two days after accusing former President Cristina Kirchner of a cover-up in the 1994 bombing of a Jewish community centre committed suicide. But he insisted “there isn't a shred of proof” that Alberto Nisman was murdered, as his family insists. Read full article

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  • Think

    Shicuréo...

    You said earlier...:
    ***“I do sincerely hope that justice will eventually prevail, but truthfully I doubt it ever will.”***

    - Try to listen to this latest testimony of the biggest loser in this case..., Sr. Lagomarsino..., and maybe your “sincere hope for justice prevailing” will begin to see a scintillanting litlle light at the end of the tunnel..., I say... ;-)
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8YCZgeYjyvI

    Vincit Omnia Veritas...

    Jan 03rd, 2020 - 10:03 am - Link - Report abuse -2
  • imoyaro

    Any way you figure...Kirchner pulled the trigger.

    https://oi1290.photobucket.com/albums/b521/imoyaro/chopperqueen_zps9decebe2.jpg

    Jan 03rd, 2020 - 10:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Esteemed readers and THINK

    (This is the same answer in an earlier thread.)

    No, I'm not blaming the Venezuelans nor do I believe CFK ordered the termination.

    There was another Jew in the USA that the authorities have decided killed himself, but a large number of people worldwide have a contrary opinion...

    The question in that infamous case points directly against some very powerful people, including Prince Andrew, but obviously none of them ordered the murder...
    People protecting their clients however, I'm convinced ordered his termination, despite being under intense 24 hour surveillance...

    ...like Nisman, Epstein's guard conveniently was not on station...

    Getting back to Nisman, the question remains:
    لمن هي فائدة؟
    Cui Bono?

    Meanwhile, the current American President is busy terminating some of the Persians representining the initial cause of the bombing in Buenos Aires...

    لمن هي فائدة؟

    Jan 03rd, 2020 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Jupppp..., Shicureo...

    I can but imagine how reivindicated and proud your Shilean “Intelligence” community must be feeling after the recent terminations in Iraq...

    It took some 44 years..., but finally them Yanks embraced publicly your Shilean “Orlando Letelier” doctrine...

    Rejoice...

    Jan 03rd, 2020 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Jack Bauer

    Chicureo

    You may have hit the nail on the head....who stands to gain from their deaths ? ....both very well timed.

    Happy 2020 !

    Jan 03rd, 2020 - 03:10 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Think

    Loud and clear speech given by the Argie president just minutes ago...
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=96b9GQmtzn8

    Jan 03rd, 2020 - 04:39 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Chicureo

    Jack Bauer

    Happy New Year! I'm currently absconding in Viña for a few days before returning inland. We're heavy on nurturing our spirits with both Viognier and Sauvignon Blancs due to the weather and cuisine. ¡Saúde!

    Estimado THINK

    Out of respect to my two Argentine naval friends, I'll abstain from commenting about the outrageous backstory of el ARA Almirante Irízar that Alberto is so proud of...

    I will also kindly note that Argentine naval officers set the finest meals for mess and the Military club in Buenos Aires is arguably one of the finest in the world.

    I sincerely hope the vessel has smooth uneventful sailing for the remainder of its history.

    Jan 03rd, 2020 - 07:36 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Jack Bauer

    Chicureo, glad to see you've still got your priorities right ! salud !

    Jan 03rd, 2020 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Enrique Massot

    The main direction one should look at, as president Alberto Fernández pointed out, is to consider who stood to gain if Nisman's death was found to be an assassination.

    Nine months prior to a presidential election, Macri was flying low in opinion polls. Fake news splashed across Clarin's front pages -- Maximo Kirchner's “well-garnished offshore accounts,” Axel Kicilloff's “earning large sums as a YPF board member,” combined with prosecutors and judges' hounding, all played a part in increasing Macri's vote intention. However the prosecutor's death and the allegations that it was an assassination ordered by then president Cristina Fernandez was the most eroding allegation in the months prior to the election.

    CFK had nothing to gain and everything to lose from Nisman's death after his public denunciation.

    However, all of the above is circumstantial. The single most effective evidence came out of Nisman's alleged crime scene: In almost five years, not a shred of evidence of third-party intervention in Nisman's death has surfaced.

    That is to say, if somebody entered Nisman's apartment and killed the prosecutor, the many experts looking for traces of such intervention were not successful. In such circumstances, and in spite of the noise and the many assumptions surrounding the case, it becomes rather difficult to support an assassination theory.

    Unless, of course, you have a stake on it.

    Jan 04th, 2020 - 12:13 am - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Chicureo

    The troublesome Jew was a major problem causing difficulties for too many powerful entities. SIDE and many other players could have easily staged Nisman to involuntary kill himself.
    لمن هي فائدة؟
    Cui Bono?

    Jan 04th, 2020 - 12:47 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • imoyaro

    It's always been fun watching the despicable Kamerad/Komrade Rique, the José Goebbels of MercoPress, try to claim Nisman committed suicide. I remember when the “Torturer's Tango Duo” (ie Kamerad/Komrade Rique and Gauchito Drink) were laughing it up when he was murdered, calling him a “chantapufi.” Of course, they have always advocated that Argentina default on its debts, the very definition of a “chantapufi” (defaulter/scammer.) Naturally, when he finally meets “True Social Justice,” I'll be joking about his committing suicide...regardless of the facts.

    https://en.mercopress.com/data/cache/noticias/60807/0x0/nisman-muerto.jpg

    Jan 04th, 2020 - 02:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Estimado Shicuréo...

    As you previously have shown interest in the Nisman case and the subsequent Netflix semi-documentary about it..., I allow meself to link to a IMHO good analysis of some of its minor details that may have escaped your Shilean Condorito eye...

    One of the things that personally satisfy me most is him..., who mades the analysis...
    Pablo Duggan..., an intelligent young Eire-Argie that until ~four (4) years ago was a convinced user and abuser of those big, fat Yank Brainwashing Suppositories you still seem to enjoy soooo much...
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_1zE_rIXaQ

    (Something or someone got him away from the dark side... ;-)

    Jan 04th, 2020 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Pugol-H

    Problem with the suicide theory is that would have to leave traces, which were not found.

    i.e. GSR.

    A forensic scientist told me that the only way it could not be on him if he committed suicide, was if after he shot himself and before he hit the floor, he washed/changed his clothes and showered himself.

    Somebody killed him, question is who, which won’t be investigated while it’s a suicide.

    There isn’t a shred of proof he committed suicide, in fact the evidence contradicts that theory.

    Jan 05th, 2020 - 01:24 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Think

    Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.....

    Why do Anglo Turnips do insist on lying and embarrasing themselves in this Internet/Google era...!?!?!

    (***“Victims don't always get gunshot residue on them; even suicide victims can test negative for gunshot residue.”***)...:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunshot_residue#Results

    Jan 05th, 2020 - 02:45 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Enrique Massot

    P-H

    “Somebody killed him, question is who, which won’t be investigated while it’s a suicide.”

    Pugol: The Macrists, who won the 2015 election partly because the speculation they helped to fuel that the prosecutor had been murdered on CKF orders, put huge pressure on the judiciary to find “proof” of an assassination. Such pressure included the removal of the original prosecutor and judge from the case.

    This pressure also forced calling a body with little expertise on autopsies, the Gendarmerie, to put together a second report -- with an assassination as a foregone conclusion -- contradicting the original findings of a forensic team of experts appointed by the Supreme Court.

    Only one detail about the Gendarmerie report's clumsiness: Analyzing the data from the original autopsy, the so-called experts concluded that Nisman died at 2:46 a.m. on Sunday. Now, no forensic expert will ever give you the exact time of a person's death -- only a range, usually of a few hours.

    So, your statement about “it won't be investigated...” is erroneous. The judge in charge did all in his power to prove a homicide, including obtaining a ridiculous, unprofessional and biased report on which the Gendarmerie experts will soon be called to testify.

    Politics and truth are not very good friends.

    Jan 05th, 2020 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Chicureo

    There still remains the possibility that someone staged Nisman to involuntary kill himself.
    لمن هي فائدة؟
    Cui Bono

    ...Many skeptics wonder why Alberto left a shopping list of things for the maid to purchase the following day...

    Jan 06th, 2020 - 12:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    “Politics and truth are not very good friends”
    You are the living embodiment of that, Kamerad/Komrade. As Zaphod correctly pointed out, truth and facts are like kryptonite to you...

    https://oi1290.photobucket.com/albums/b521/imoyaro/berniclean_zps11f9fed0.jpg

    Jan 06th, 2020 - 12:11 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Think

    Shicuréo says...:
    ***“...Many skeptics wonder why Alberto left a shopping list of things for the maid to purchase the following day...”***

    Uninformed sceptics they must be..., says Think...:
    ***“En la fiscalía, ella contó que la última vez que vio a su jefe, ”el doctor”, fue el jueves anterior a su muerte y que fue ella la que le dejó una nota con cosas que necesitaba del supermercado. No al revés.
    Al ex presidente de la DAIA Jorge Kirszenbaum un primo hermano de la madre de Nisman le había contado que en el departamento del fiscal habían encontrado una nota dirigida a su empleada doméstica, encargándole una lista de cosas que ella tenía que comprar el lunes. Gallardo explicó que fue al revés. Que ella nunca hacía las compras.
    https://www.lanacion.com.ar/politica/la-mucama-de-nisman-un-relato-clave-que-reaviva-el-misterio-de-la-puerta-nid1766564

    Capisce...?

    Jan 06th, 2020 - 01:24 am - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Chicureo

    https://m.imgur.com/SBCHVT5

    Jan 06th, 2020 - 04:15 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Think

    Hermanito Shilensis...
    Nice we are able to make you chuckle at your own one sided gullibility ....
    Now we must devise a cunning plan to get you out from under Mme. Lefarge's chancleta...

    Jan 06th, 2020 - 04:43 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Chicureo

    https://m.imgur.com/SBCHVT5

    Jan 06th, 2020 - 08:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Right..., my bad...
    I forgot for a minute that you Milicos have to have things repeated MANY, MANY TIMES before you begin to understand...
    Herewith a 2015 Video of Nisman's Nana..., saying that Alberto DID NOT LEFT a shopping list of things for the NANA to purchase the following day...
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I8ywsCyzDHE&t=290s

    Capisce now...?

    Jan 06th, 2020 - 08:47 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Chicureo

    Meanwhile...
    https://m.imgur.com/SBCHVT5

    Jan 09th, 2020 - 02:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Ok..., I graciously accept your inconditional white flag and the surrendering of your corvo to the overwhelming ethical superiority of the truth in the chantapufi Nisman suicide case...

    - A couple of personal question to you about the Soleimani suicide case though...:
    1) Why this sudden hatred against some of them Persian/Arab/Semitic-Muslim brothers of ours that until recently were our allies against some them other Persian/Arab/Semitic-Muslim brothers of ours...?

    2) Ain't the long established..., traditional..., good auld Shilean Armed Farces deep hatred against Mosaic Rabbinic Judaism not good enough for you anymore...?

    Shalom...
    El Think...

    Jan 09th, 2020 - 10:11 am - Link - Report abuse -1

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