In an apparent slip of the tongue, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu described Israel as a nuclear power before correcting himself with a bashful nod and an embarrassed smile. Read full article
A news item in the New York Times questions the suicide of an alleged mastermind of a terrorist attack in Buenos Aires. It also reminds Latin America of the alleged suicide of the prosecutor of those responsible of the cover up... https://m.imgur.com/SBCHVT5
WHY has the accused criminal Netanyahu been allowed to stay in office at this point?? He has dug a hole from which Israel may never re-emerge in tieing the existance of the state to long-term success of the Trump Party, in so doing alienating the opposition Democrats who have earned the support of 61% of US voters against a president who 49.9% of active-duty military views strongly unfavorably according to the Military Times, and who has lost the majority of voters in the country, from 53% of white women down to 27% and falling. CLEARLY Netanyahu is not the guy Israel should be ALLOWING to remain in office while he is under indictment!
In its stupidity, the Israel electorate is following Netanyahu down a rat hole to hell.
NAngeleno
”WHY has the accused criminal (???)Netanyahu been allowed to stay in office at this point??”
Has he been tried, and convicted, or is that just (your) wishful thinking ?
But to answer your question, I can ask you one: ”why did the self-righteous democraPs try to elect Hillary ?
With you lefties seems everything is about socialism and political correctness, plus the fact you all dislike those who don't agree with you....how about practising a bit of tolerance instead of just preaching it ? LOL
Everyone dislikes people who don't agree with them. Why else say 'democraps'? I bet you called Lula a criminal long before he was convicted - Netanyahu is also a leader accused of corruption.
DT
I called Lula corrupt, long before he was convicted....after the conviction I call him a criminal....which is what he is.
I don't agree with everyone, but I know they are free to express their opinions....sometimes based on fact, other times on wishful thinking.
DemocraPs is what I call them, as it is what I have come to think of them, after years of observation....
Your right, Netanyahu is a leader, accused of corruption.....but prove it, or have him condemned in a court of law, before stating he is a criminal...unless of course you have access to inside information, that 99% don't..
I don't see the point of these names - Democraps, Republic**ts. Doesn't prove anything. IIRC you called Lula a crook before he was convicted, which is not much different. But everyone is entitled to their opinion. Netanyahu is still in office because enough Israelis keep voting for his party. Maybe they don't believe he's corrupt or maybe they don't care.
Glad to hear the economy is improving in Brazil; there have been a few stories on here saying things are getting better gradually. Not much the BR government can do about external events like trade wars, but at least they seem to have remembered that Argentina is a major export partner, and they need to work with them even if they don't like the new government.
There's not especially much to do in Yorkshire, just go walking in the hills and spend time with friends. Except half the people who were coming have got a stomach bug and can't make it. And if they do come later they might infect the rest of us. :/
DT
Seems you have forgotten that I was privy to quite a bit of inside information on Lula while I was at Ford's..... he accepted bribes to call off strikes he had engineered....manipulating the workers for his own, personal benefit. I suppose that in the socialist unions' paradise that is not a crime.....the day he had a taste of power, he saw the benefits of corruption and took advantage of them.
The fact he was never prosecuted at the time is because 'quid pro quo' was how things were done back then, and Brazilian Justice system was extremely lenient with influential people.
Argentina, although better than 'nothing' as far as trading goes, is a real deception....it has always been unable to keep its side of the bargain (Mercosul trade agreement), and forced the issue to negotiate even more concessions...this has been going on since the inception of the agreement, in the early /mid 90s. Despite their difficulty to get their act together, and the fact they held Brazil back for years in the Mercosul /EU trade agreement, Brazil still tries to make it work.
It will take a decade before the agreement is fully functional (this is not Argentina's fault, just the way things are implemented in South America....sloooow...)
What's the cause of the stomach bug, and who are these people who might spread it / infect the rest of you ?
Netanyahu has been charged and requested immunity, but it looks like he's not going to get it, so he may be facing trial sooner rather than later. Let's hope the Israeli justice system is better at dealing with the powerful and can give him a real and fair trial.
Re Argentina, I suppose it's another case of having to work with what you've got. Can't choose your neighbours... But I did wonder if Brazil could join the Pacific Alliance instead, geography not withstanding?
Dunno what sort of bug it is, a bunch of people who came to our new year party got it, but we have been fine (so far, fingers crossed), and some people who didn't come got it too. Don't think there is any event they have all been in one place. Norovirus is very infectious so could be that, I had it as a student and it was extremely unpleasant.
DT
When/if Netanyahu is tried he'll get what's coming to him.....a conviction, or aquittal.
Until then...
Believe Brazil would like to join the Pacific Alliance, although don't recall seeing anything official in that respect....Probably better organized and more efficient than the Mercosul.
The bug sounds nasty......is it a common virus in the UK, or is it rare ? Besides unpleasant, any sequelae ?
The Pacific Alliance does appear a little more dynamic than Mercosul. The latter group seemed to have forgotten their original purpose during the 2000s, but maybe Alberto F will agree to the deal with the EU and things can keep moving.
Norovirus is pretty common, I thought you would have heard of it. Maybe since it's more prevalent in winter it's not so common in a hot country like Brazil? Do people there still get colds every year? There are so many worse diseases to worry about, like yellow fever and Zika, that maybe no one talks about more minor ones.
DT
Argentina has nearly always blocked initiatives by others within the Mercosul to sign trade agreements, because its economy is too weak and unstable, comparatively speaking.
I had 'heard' about Norovirus occurring on some cruise ships sailing the Brazilian coast line, but not too familiar with it....reading up about it briefly, it is more prevalent in cooler climates, and is more common in healthcare facilities and restaurants (where food is prepared by someone else and hygiene standards may not be all that good).
I take a flu shot every year, and have not had a serious cold in over 2 decades. And dengue, zika, chicungunya and now yellow fever are only common here, because the majority of the population (in poor areas) is careless when it comes down to taking the necry precautions to avoid them.
Seriously? I reckon I get at least one a year and that's lower than average. Now I want to move somewhere warmer!
By necessary precautions, do you mean measures to reduce mosquitos like draining standing water? AFAIK only yellow fever has a vaccine out of those diseases (I remember having to go to a special clinic to get it), but either way it's a public health issue and the government needs to play its part. One person's actions don't make that much difference and you can't force your neighbours to do the right thing.
DT
Yeah, precautions mean not leaving standing (and stagnant) water lying around...
Your right, only YF has a vaccine....had to take it when started travelling to Panama.
In the poor parts of town, where infrastructure is virtually nonexistent, most people throw their garbage (pet bottles, old tires, old containers, packaging, broken furniture) in the empty lots and streets beside their homes, which collects water and is great for mosquito breeding...they know it causes the problem, but to get them to discard the garbage correctly, is useless...as are the costly campaigns to try to educate them...
Even the several, enormous parking lots run by the State's Traffic Administration, to store dozens of 1000s of abandoned and confiscated vehicles, are mosquito breeders....instead of auctioning them off every few months as metal scrap, they stand there for years, rusting away and collecting water.
If they all received heavy fines, things might improve...
I'm surprised the government doesn't give everyone in Brazil the YF vaccine, since it can easily spread there. It's not present in the UK so you have to get it privately if needed for travel. (The NHS does not pay extra for you to go on holiday.)
Sounds like the (local?) government needs to arrange garbage collection in the poor neighbourhoods, as well as clean water and sanitation. Once you've made it easy for people to do the right thing, then you can start fining them if they break the rules. In the UK it was action by the government to build sewers and provide clean water that made a big difference to public health, and later banning coal fires to clear the smog.
DT
The government does offer free vaccines, to the whole population, and always campaigns intensively to try to reach a coverage of at least 95 %......YF being prevalent in rural and wooded areas (forests, parks), and near rivers, people in these areas are vaccinated first....in the 2019 vaccination campaign, many people who live outside these higher risk areas rushed to get the vaccine anyway, and were turned away, told to wait their turn, as the campaign came to their areas.
Am not sure what % of the population was vaccinated, but if the result was similar to previous vaccination campaigns (also of other diseases), once it's apparently under control, the remainder doesn't bother to get vaccinated, or leaves it to the last minute, then complains they've got to face long queues.
Garbage collection does exist in poor neighbourhoods, although not as efficient as in the more affluent urban areas. Many of the irregular constructions (cement 'n bricks) or wooden shacks are built beside, or virtually on top of, small streams (which flow into the larger rivers), and instead of putting their garbage out for collection (in big plastic sacks), they throw it out of the window, and into the stream, not to mention the raw sewege which is channelled directly into the stream. As such, the streams stink, are extremely polluted, disgustingly unhealthy....and when it rains hard they all get flooded out with all the shit coming from other communities up stream.
Clean water and sanitation are rare commodities in these areas, which contributes to a large share of the health problems.
Fully support the govt's actions in the UK, and should be done here, but please remember 2 things....Brazil is 35 times the size of the UK, and has over 3 times the population....ah, and it's populated by people with a somewhat different social culture when it comes down to respect for your neighbours, other people's money, and the law.
Sounds like Brazil is doing something right with the vaccines, only I thought they would have just given it to children rather than having everyone rush to get vaccinated later. Also I did hear the anti-vaxxers have started spreading their propaganda in Brazil, where it could have much worse results than in America.
Sucks that people just chuck their rubbish into rivers. We have a few like that here but thankfully not so many. Don't know how public spirited people were back in Victorian times when the government started building sewers, though.
DT
Right, the anti-vaxxer fashion is already here...have seen some of their propaganda on social networks (FB etc)....Remember reading about a measles epidemic in Europe a couple of years ago, in which 7,000 were contaminated. These groups use the social network to divulge, with absolutely no scientific basis, supposed side-effects of the vaccines. Here, not long ago, a kid whose parents refused to vaccinate him, died...am sorry for the kid, but screw the f'ing parents. They should be prosecuted, as they are simply allowing these diseases, erradicated years ago, to make a come-back. If they don't want to be vaccinated, go 'n live in the middle of nowhere.
Every year, during the rainy season - happening now - the same scenes repeat themselves in these stream-side communities, and the garbage thrown in the streets is washed down the storm drains, blocking them and making them useless....just in the city of SP, over 1000 tons of garbage are removed from the drains, every month. Most people are just pigs.
Regardless of people's bad habits, the fact is that there is no way to cope with the very heavy rainfalls....but the same idiots who throw their shit in the wrong place, blame the local municipality for the floods and streets like rivers....never themselves..... not to mention those that insist in living in high-risk areas....steep hillsides where the vegetation has been chopped down, and in areas where the rivers normally overflow into.
Don't know how public spirited people were back in Victorian times... neither do I, but seems the majority now, do what they are supposed to.
When I spent some time in Japan, I remember that garbage collection/disposal, and recycling were taken very seriously....and have never seen such clean streets. Even during the World Cup (soccer) in Brazil in 2014, it was easy to see where the Japanese fans had sat in the stadiums...clean as a whistle, and around them, tons of crap. It's a matter of education, not campaigns.
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Disclaimer & comment rulesA sly and experienced politician like Netanyahu would never make a slip of the tongue of this kind.
Jan 07th, 2020 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse +1It's clearly a warning: We have nukes, do you want one of them?
A news item in the New York Times questions the suicide of an alleged mastermind of a terrorist attack in Buenos Aires. It also reminds Latin America of the alleged suicide of the prosecutor of those responsible of the cover up...
Jan 07th, 2020 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse -1https://m.imgur.com/SBCHVT5
WHY has the accused criminal Netanyahu been allowed to stay in office at this point?? He has dug a hole from which Israel may never re-emerge in tieing the existance of the state to long-term success of the Trump Party, in so doing alienating the opposition Democrats who have earned the support of 61% of US voters against a president who 49.9% of active-duty military views strongly unfavorably according to the Military Times, and who has lost the majority of voters in the country, from 53% of white women down to 27% and falling. CLEARLY Netanyahu is not the guy Israel should be ALLOWING to remain in office while he is under indictment!
Jan 07th, 2020 - 06:21 pm - Link - Report abuse +1In its stupidity, the Israel electorate is following Netanyahu down a rat hole to hell.
NAngeleno
Jan 07th, 2020 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse +1”WHY has the accused criminal (???)Netanyahu been allowed to stay in office at this point??”
Has he been tried, and convicted, or is that just (your) wishful thinking ?
But to answer your question, I can ask you one: ”why did the self-righteous democraPs try to elect Hillary ?
With you lefties seems everything is about socialism and political correctness, plus the fact you all dislike those who don't agree with you....how about practising a bit of tolerance instead of just preaching it ? LOL
Everyone dislikes people who don't agree with them. Why else say 'democraps'? I bet you called Lula a criminal long before he was convicted - Netanyahu is also a leader accused of corruption.
Jan 07th, 2020 - 10:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0DT
Jan 08th, 2020 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I called Lula corrupt, long before he was convicted....after the conviction I call him a criminal....which is what he is.
I don't agree with everyone, but I know they are free to express their opinions....sometimes based on fact, other times on wishful thinking.
DemocraPs is what I call them, as it is what I have come to think of them, after years of observation....
Your right, Netanyahu is a leader, accused of corruption.....but prove it, or have him condemned in a court of law, before stating he is a criminal...unless of course you have access to inside information, that 99% don't..
I don't see the point of these names - Democraps, Republic**ts. Doesn't prove anything. IIRC you called Lula a crook before he was convicted, which is not much different. But everyone is entitled to their opinion. Netanyahu is still in office because enough Israelis keep voting for his party. Maybe they don't believe he's corrupt or maybe they don't care.
Jan 09th, 2020 - 06:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Glad to hear the economy is improving in Brazil; there have been a few stories on here saying things are getting better gradually. Not much the BR government can do about external events like trade wars, but at least they seem to have remembered that Argentina is a major export partner, and they need to work with them even if they don't like the new government.
There's not especially much to do in Yorkshire, just go walking in the hills and spend time with friends. Except half the people who were coming have got a stomach bug and can't make it. And if they do come later they might infect the rest of us. :/
DT
Jan 11th, 2020 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Seems you have forgotten that I was privy to quite a bit of inside information on Lula while I was at Ford's..... he accepted bribes to call off strikes he had engineered....manipulating the workers for his own, personal benefit. I suppose that in the socialist unions' paradise that is not a crime.....the day he had a taste of power, he saw the benefits of corruption and took advantage of them.
The fact he was never prosecuted at the time is because 'quid pro quo' was how things were done back then, and Brazilian Justice system was extremely lenient with influential people.
Argentina, although better than 'nothing' as far as trading goes, is a real deception....it has always been unable to keep its side of the bargain (Mercosul trade agreement), and forced the issue to negotiate even more concessions...this has been going on since the inception of the agreement, in the early /mid 90s. Despite their difficulty to get their act together, and the fact they held Brazil back for years in the Mercosul /EU trade agreement, Brazil still tries to make it work.
It will take a decade before the agreement is fully functional (this is not Argentina's fault, just the way things are implemented in South America....sloooow...)
What's the cause of the stomach bug, and who are these people who might spread it / infect the rest of you ?
Netanyahu has been charged and requested immunity, but it looks like he's not going to get it, so he may be facing trial sooner rather than later. Let's hope the Israeli justice system is better at dealing with the powerful and can give him a real and fair trial.
Jan 12th, 2020 - 12:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0Re Argentina, I suppose it's another case of having to work with what you've got. Can't choose your neighbours... But I did wonder if Brazil could join the Pacific Alliance instead, geography not withstanding?
Dunno what sort of bug it is, a bunch of people who came to our new year party got it, but we have been fine (so far, fingers crossed), and some people who didn't come got it too. Don't think there is any event they have all been in one place. Norovirus is very infectious so could be that, I had it as a student and it was extremely unpleasant.
DT
Jan 12th, 2020 - 09:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When/if Netanyahu is tried he'll get what's coming to him.....a conviction, or aquittal.
Until then...
Believe Brazil would like to join the Pacific Alliance, although don't recall seeing anything official in that respect....Probably better organized and more efficient than the Mercosul.
The bug sounds nasty......is it a common virus in the UK, or is it rare ? Besides unpleasant, any sequelae ?
The Pacific Alliance does appear a little more dynamic than Mercosul. The latter group seemed to have forgotten their original purpose during the 2000s, but maybe Alberto F will agree to the deal with the EU and things can keep moving.
Jan 13th, 2020 - 11:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0Norovirus is pretty common, I thought you would have heard of it. Maybe since it's more prevalent in winter it's not so common in a hot country like Brazil? Do people there still get colds every year? There are so many worse diseases to worry about, like yellow fever and Zika, that maybe no one talks about more minor ones.
Fingers crossed no one else has caught it yet.
DT
Jan 13th, 2020 - 03:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina has nearly always blocked initiatives by others within the Mercosul to sign trade agreements, because its economy is too weak and unstable, comparatively speaking.
I had 'heard' about Norovirus occurring on some cruise ships sailing the Brazilian coast line, but not too familiar with it....reading up about it briefly, it is more prevalent in cooler climates, and is more common in healthcare facilities and restaurants (where food is prepared by someone else and hygiene standards may not be all that good).
I take a flu shot every year, and have not had a serious cold in over 2 decades. And dengue, zika, chicungunya and now yellow fever are only common here, because the majority of the population (in poor areas) is careless when it comes down to taking the necry precautions to avoid them.
have not had a serious cold in over 2 decades
Jan 14th, 2020 - 01:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Seriously? I reckon I get at least one a year and that's lower than average. Now I want to move somewhere warmer!
By necessary precautions, do you mean measures to reduce mosquitos like draining standing water? AFAIK only yellow fever has a vaccine out of those diseases (I remember having to go to a special clinic to get it), but either way it's a public health issue and the government needs to play its part. One person's actions don't make that much difference and you can't force your neighbours to do the right thing.
DT
Jan 14th, 2020 - 07:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yeah, precautions mean not leaving standing (and stagnant) water lying around...
Your right, only YF has a vaccine....had to take it when started travelling to Panama.
In the poor parts of town, where infrastructure is virtually nonexistent, most people throw their garbage (pet bottles, old tires, old containers, packaging, broken furniture) in the empty lots and streets beside their homes, which collects water and is great for mosquito breeding...they know it causes the problem, but to get them to discard the garbage correctly, is useless...as are the costly campaigns to try to educate them...
Even the several, enormous parking lots run by the State's Traffic Administration, to store dozens of 1000s of abandoned and confiscated vehicles, are mosquito breeders....instead of auctioning them off every few months as metal scrap, they stand there for years, rusting away and collecting water.
If they all received heavy fines, things might improve...
I'm surprised the government doesn't give everyone in Brazil the YF vaccine, since it can easily spread there. It's not present in the UK so you have to get it privately if needed for travel. (The NHS does not pay extra for you to go on holiday.)
Jan 14th, 2020 - 11:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sounds like the (local?) government needs to arrange garbage collection in the poor neighbourhoods, as well as clean water and sanitation. Once you've made it easy for people to do the right thing, then you can start fining them if they break the rules. In the UK it was action by the government to build sewers and provide clean water that made a big difference to public health, and later banning coal fires to clear the smog.
DT
Jan 15th, 2020 - 04:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The government does offer free vaccines, to the whole population, and always campaigns intensively to try to reach a coverage of at least 95 %......YF being prevalent in rural and wooded areas (forests, parks), and near rivers, people in these areas are vaccinated first....in the 2019 vaccination campaign, many people who live outside these higher risk areas rushed to get the vaccine anyway, and were turned away, told to wait their turn, as the campaign came to their areas.
Am not sure what % of the population was vaccinated, but if the result was similar to previous vaccination campaigns (also of other diseases), once it's apparently under control, the remainder doesn't bother to get vaccinated, or leaves it to the last minute, then complains they've got to face long queues.
Garbage collection does exist in poor neighbourhoods, although not as efficient as in the more affluent urban areas. Many of the irregular constructions (cement 'n bricks) or wooden shacks are built beside, or virtually on top of, small streams (which flow into the larger rivers), and instead of putting their garbage out for collection (in big plastic sacks), they throw it out of the window, and into the stream, not to mention the raw sewege which is channelled directly into the stream. As such, the streams stink, are extremely polluted, disgustingly unhealthy....and when it rains hard they all get flooded out with all the shit coming from other communities up stream.
Clean water and sanitation are rare commodities in these areas, which contributes to a large share of the health problems.
Fully support the govt's actions in the UK, and should be done here, but please remember 2 things....Brazil is 35 times the size of the UK, and has over 3 times the population....ah, and it's populated by people with a somewhat different social culture when it comes down to respect for your neighbours, other people's money, and the law.
Sounds like Brazil is doing something right with the vaccines, only I thought they would have just given it to children rather than having everyone rush to get vaccinated later. Also I did hear the anti-vaxxers have started spreading their propaganda in Brazil, where it could have much worse results than in America.
Jan 16th, 2020 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sucks that people just chuck their rubbish into rivers. We have a few like that here but thankfully not so many. Don't know how public spirited people were back in Victorian times when the government started building sewers, though.
DT
Jan 16th, 2020 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Right, the anti-vaxxer fashion is already here...have seen some of their propaganda on social networks (FB etc)....Remember reading about a measles epidemic in Europe a couple of years ago, in which 7,000 were contaminated. These groups use the social network to divulge, with absolutely no scientific basis, supposed side-effects of the vaccines. Here, not long ago, a kid whose parents refused to vaccinate him, died...am sorry for the kid, but screw the f'ing parents. They should be prosecuted, as they are simply allowing these diseases, erradicated years ago, to make a come-back. If they don't want to be vaccinated, go 'n live in the middle of nowhere.
Every year, during the rainy season - happening now - the same scenes repeat themselves in these stream-side communities, and the garbage thrown in the streets is washed down the storm drains, blocking them and making them useless....just in the city of SP, over 1000 tons of garbage are removed from the drains, every month. Most people are just pigs.
Regardless of people's bad habits, the fact is that there is no way to cope with the very heavy rainfalls....but the same idiots who throw their shit in the wrong place, blame the local municipality for the floods and streets like rivers....never themselves..... not to mention those that insist in living in high-risk areas....steep hillsides where the vegetation has been chopped down, and in areas where the rivers normally overflow into.
Don't know how public spirited people were back in Victorian times... neither do I, but seems the majority now, do what they are supposed to.
When I spent some time in Japan, I remember that garbage collection/disposal, and recycling were taken very seriously....and have never seen such clean streets. Even during the World Cup (soccer) in Brazil in 2014, it was easy to see where the Japanese fans had sat in the stadiums...clean as a whistle, and around them, tons of crap. It's a matter of education, not campaigns.
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