“The Malvinas question unites all Argentines”, according to ex-foreign minister and currently Senator Jorge Taiana, who is also chair of the foreign affairs committee in the Argentine Senate. Read full article
Are these not the same War Drums from1982. Is the Economic outlook during this Pandemic so dismal that the Argentine is looking to start another conflict and waste more lives? It's not like these Elder Statesmen where not involved in the last fiasco. Pair that with the fact that Argentina wouldn't know what to do with the Falkland's if they came with instructions. Why doesn't Buenos Aires just invite the British over for some War Games and a Scrum or two...or are the looking to replenish their war toys...That Aircraft Carrier they have, if it's still floating and can go to sea would make a wonderful Reef...
Jorge Taiana - I remember this guy. Chuckle chuckle...
In February 2008, Argentine Foreign Minister Jorge Taiana, when speaking of the ICJ Kosovo case in the Clarin Newspaper said, ‘If we were to recognise Kosovo, which has declared independence unilaterally, without an agreement from Serbia, we would set a dangerous precedent that would seriously threaten our chances of a political settlement in the case of the Falkland Islands.’ He continued, ‘Argentina will not recognise also because it supports the principle of territorial integrity.’ (Jorge Taiana, Clarin.com/, 20 Feb 2008).
Regarding Falklands oil exploration, Argentine Foreign Minister Jorge Taiana stated in February 2010, that his Government would take 'all measures necessary to preserve our rights' and also reiterated that Argentina had a 'permanent claim' on the islands, saying 'Buenos Aires would complain to the UN over the oil project and might take the case to the International Courts of Justice in the Hague.' ( British Drilling For Falklands Oil Threatens Argentine Relations, Pope, F. , 13 Feb 2010 and Potential Drilling off Falkland, Provokes Tension Between Argentina & UK, IRRU News, 17 Feb 2010).
“The objective will be to forge a national consensus to design and advance the strategies that will allow us to push forward with success the claim”
And now, ta da, a, “National Advisory Council”, no less:
“To generate an environment to consider and advise which brings together the voices of the different actors and testimonies from the Argentine society to elaborate State policies”
There are things that happen when there is a dispute and someone in London does not understand it, and the dispute will continue, although a poor mediocre self-proclaimed historian, very mediocre on Twitter, along with other poor mediocre people who no one knows where they live, say that everything is fine :)
My God. why do you keep on trying Malvinas Malvinas? I lived in the USA for nine years. I was able to see the truth. I have seen documentales of the war in 1982. Your youngest men had no chance to beat a world power. You have no navy ships, no areoplanes to fight.
The truth I found out was one no one in sudamerica speaks of. The Englanders allowed the peoples of the Falkerlands a free secret vote on who they wanted to be rules by. la argentina or el británico?
Wiki says Following the announcement of the referendum, British Minister of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs, Jeremy Browne, said that the Falkland Islands Government would invite independent international observers to verify the outcome of the referendum.[17] The Referendum International Observation Mission during the referendum was led by Brad Smith from the United States and included representatives from Canada, Mexico, Uruguay, Paraguay, Chile and New Zealand.[33] Following the declaration of the results, Smith announced the international observation mission has concluded that the voting process was executed in accordance with international standards and local laws. The process was technically sound, with a systematic adherence to established voting procedures... It is our finding that the Falkland Islands referendum process was free and fair, reflecting the democratic will of the voters of the Falkland Islands.”
If all the observers say the vote was free and fair. There was 15 Argentinians living on the Falklands. But only 3 people voted NO. So even if you say 3 Argentinian s voted no. That means the other 12 voted yes.
The peoples of the Falkerlands voted to stay British in a free Plebiscite. The matter should end now. Argentina is looking like a bully again. They bully Uruguay over dredging the river Martin Garcia. They insist we do not allow the cruise ships into Montevideo port if they have visited or will visit Falkland Islands. This makes shop keepers poor in Uruguay.
In 2016, Britain's Defence Secretary, Fallon, made it quite plain that the sovereignty dispute had been resolved more than 30 years before he spoke. In 2019, Argentina's Chamber of Deputies complained that the British Ambassador, Mark Kent, was confirming that position.
Comments
Disclaimer & comment rulesA new Committee and a fantasy map? Wow. That'll sort it ;-)
Jul 24th, 2020 - 08:48 am - Link - Report abuse +5Here we go again , just like a stuck record, yawn yawn yawn,
Jul 24th, 2020 - 08:55 am - Link - Report abuse +3Are these not the same War Drums from1982. Is the Economic outlook during this Pandemic so dismal that the Argentine is looking to start another conflict and waste more lives? It's not like these Elder Statesmen where not involved in the last fiasco. Pair that with the fact that Argentina wouldn't know what to do with the Falkland's if they came with instructions. Why doesn't Buenos Aires just invite the British over for some War Games and a Scrum or two...or are the looking to replenish their war toys...That Aircraft Carrier they have, if it's still floating and can go to sea would make a wonderful Reef...
Jul 24th, 2020 - 09:48 am - Link - Report abuse +2Long on Talk short on Facts and Non-existent on Evidence !!!
Jul 24th, 2020 - 10:14 am - Link - Report abuse +3Jorge Taiana - I remember this guy. Chuckle chuckle...
Jul 24th, 2020 - 10:21 am - Link - Report abuse +6In February 2008, Argentine Foreign Minister Jorge Taiana, when speaking of the ICJ Kosovo case in the Clarin Newspaper said, ‘If we were to recognise Kosovo, which has declared independence unilaterally, without an agreement from Serbia, we would set a dangerous precedent that would seriously threaten our chances of a political settlement in the case of the Falkland Islands.’ He continued, ‘Argentina will not recognise also because it supports the principle of territorial integrity.’ (Jorge Taiana, Clarin.com/, 20 Feb 2008).
Regarding Falklands oil exploration, Argentine Foreign Minister Jorge Taiana stated in February 2010, that his Government would take 'all measures necessary to preserve our rights' and also reiterated that Argentina had a 'permanent claim' on the islands, saying 'Buenos Aires would complain to the UN over the oil project and might take the case to the International Courts of Justice in the Hague.' ( British Drilling For Falklands Oil Threatens Argentine Relations, Pope, F. , 13 Feb 2010 and Potential Drilling off Falkland, Provokes Tension Between Argentina & UK, IRRU News, 17 Feb 2010).
Argentina needs a military alliance with Russia and China, more than an advisory council.
Jul 24th, 2020 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse -1First we had:
Jul 24th, 2020 - 10:49 pm - Link - Report abuse +2filmus-officially-appointed-as-malvinas-antarctica-and-south-atlantic-secretary
With:
“The objective will be to forge a national consensus to design and advance the strategies that will allow us to push forward with success the claim”
And now, ta da, a, “National Advisory Council”, no less:
“To generate an environment to consider and advise which brings together the voices of the different actors and testimonies from the Argentine society to elaborate State policies”
Hmmm, er, watch and weep:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55fqjw2J1vI
”It is a zone with great reserves of hydrocarbons and minerals”, correct, “which belong to”????
Oh yes, those “Engrish Pirates”, chuckle, chuckle”.
There are things that happen when there is a dispute and someone in London does not understand it, and the dispute will continue, although a poor mediocre self-proclaimed historian, very mediocre on Twitter, along with other poor mediocre people who no one knows where they live, say that everything is fine :)
Jul 25th, 2020 - 02:57 am - Link - Report abuse -2My God. why do you keep on trying Malvinas Malvinas? I lived in the USA for nine years. I was able to see the truth. I have seen documentales of the war in 1982. Your youngest men had no chance to beat a world power. You have no navy ships, no areoplanes to fight.
Jul 25th, 2020 - 03:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0The truth I found out was one no one in sudamerica speaks of. The Englanders allowed the peoples of the Falkerlands a free secret vote on who they wanted to be rules by. la argentina or el británico?
Wiki says Following the announcement of the referendum, British Minister of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs, Jeremy Browne, said that the Falkland Islands Government would invite independent international observers to verify the outcome of the referendum.[17] The Referendum International Observation Mission during the referendum was led by Brad Smith from the United States and included representatives from Canada, Mexico, Uruguay, Paraguay, Chile and New Zealand.[33] Following the declaration of the results, Smith announced the international observation mission has concluded that the voting process was executed in accordance with international standards and local laws. The process was technically sound, with a systematic adherence to established voting procedures... It is our finding that the Falkland Islands referendum process was free and fair, reflecting the democratic will of the voters of the Falkland Islands.”
If all the observers say the vote was free and fair. There was 15 Argentinians living on the Falklands. But only 3 people voted NO. So even if you say 3 Argentinian s voted no. That means the other 12 voted yes.
The peoples of the Falkerlands voted to stay British in a free Plebiscite. The matter should end now. Argentina is looking like a bully again. They bully Uruguay over dredging the river Martin Garcia. They insist we do not allow the cruise ships into Montevideo port if they have visited or will visit Falkland Islands. This makes shop keepers poor in Uruguay.
Gullible, if you have a dispute you should find a court.
Jul 25th, 2020 - 06:41 am - Link - Report abuse +2Pfffft..... Still the same old same old same old... Whingeing
Jul 25th, 2020 - 07:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0Guillote
Jul 25th, 2020 - 11:19 am - Link - Report abuse +3It’s not really “a dispute” is it?
Argentina makes a claim, but the evidence does not support the Argentinian version of events, it contradicts it.
Argentina makes a claim of sovereignty which cannot be sustained in any court (outside of Argentina/S. America).
You need some evidence to support your claim before you can say “it’s a dispute”.
In 2016, Britain's Defence Secretary, Fallon, made it quite plain that the sovereignty dispute had been resolved more than 30 years before he spoke. In 2019, Argentina's Chamber of Deputies complained that the British Ambassador, Mark Kent, was confirming that position.
Jul 25th, 2020 - 10:59 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Takes two to tango.
There is no dispute.
Indisputably so.
Jul 26th, 2020 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Commenting for this story is now closed.
If you have a Facebook account, become a fan and comment on our Facebook Page!