MercoPress. South Atlantic News Agency
Falklands elected government rejects point blank Argentina's threatening and bullying tactics
The Falkland Islands elected Government on Monday publicly expressed its disappointment with the Argentine government regarding its determined intent to escalate their sovereignty claim over the Islands and continue harassing the people of the Falklands. In response to that attitude Gilbert House, seat of the government elected by the people of the Falklands, in democratic elections, has made the following release: Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesNo matter how much bullying and intimidation Argentina does nothing will change,,the Falklands belong to the people who live there , the matter was settled permanently in 1982,
Aug 10th, 2020 - 10:14 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Put king's head over the table and ask Argentina to negotiate selfdetermination. Became a new free country and offer Argentina a National Park at Darwin.
Aug 10th, 2020 - 11:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Change redcoats for white helmets and triple gdp in 10 years.
What would Argentines know of tripling GDP?
Aug 11th, 2020 - 03:56 am - Link - Report abuse +2Billy- Argentina has for years only ever had One negotiating point-The date they would be allowed to take us over. That is and always has been their only negotiating point.
Aug 11th, 2020 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse +2It is a pity that the FI govewnment views the announcement of policies long trailed in the election campiagh as announced with some raltion to the Covid 19 pandemic. The president is merely fulfilling campaugn promises. There is nothing threatening about them unless the unrealistic view is taken that Argentina will shelve its claim. It's there will not shift. It is therefore best to work on ways to cooperate and refrain from name calling instead of constantly deploying anti-Argentine sentiment. As Lord Shackleton held, the islands are neither demographically nor economically feasible without a link with Argentina but the problem is anti-Argentine sentiment”. Fisheries coordination and hydrocarbons exploration and exploitation when oil prices indicate feasibility are calling for cooperation.
Aug 11th, 2020 - 12:00 pm - Link - Report abuse -4Timlander1...
Aug 11th, 2020 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse -5May I ask what you mean by...:*** “ Take Us Over...” ***
I can assure you that this auld Patagonian NEVER MET NOBODY interested in ”Taking You (Kelpers) Over”...
Personally..., i Think you Kelpers should get the same offer Cpt. Onslow gave them Argie Kelpers some 197 years ago...
All you Anglos seem to be soooooooo proud of it...
Capisce...?
gamakin
Aug 11th, 2020 - 12:22 pm - Link - Report abuse +5It's hardly surprising that there is “anti Argentine sentiment” , it's only a few years ago that Argentina launched its inept but very damaging military assault on the islands. How could there not be anti- Argentine sentiments ? In an ideal world it would make really good sense for the Islanders to have close relations with Argentina with joint programmes of development of fishing and off shore
oil reserves. We are not however in an ideal world, rather there is one partner with an enviable record of democratic government, a strong economy and a very sound work ethic. The other partner, unfortunately, has a long record of inept government failure to honour a variety of international agreements, a crude attempt to occupy, by force, the other partner's lands and a record of cheating and corruption at almost every level of its society . Not a good basis for joint ventures.
gamakin
Aug 11th, 2020 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse +2It is unrealistic to think that the UK are going to even discuss sovereignty, where Argentina has no legitimate claim to the territory, whatsoever.
Argentina claiming the Islands is offensive to the Islanders, none the less Argentina persists.
Passing laws to try and strangle their economy is not just threatening, it is an aggressive act and generally a prelude to an act of war, when you try and enforce jurisdiction.
“Anti-Argentine sentiment” is the inevitable and only result of this kind of policy.
What cooperation there was Argentina unilaterally ended, even that very limited cooperation is not going to restart in the current climate.
Shackleton report was in 1982, it is a completely different world now and the Islanders have clearly demonstrated in recent decades they do not need Argentina.
Just as Argentina has clearly demonstrated it has nothing to offer them.
All in all, not much to discuss really.
Gamakin - I rather think that it is Argentina's anti-Islander sentiment that is the problem.
Aug 11th, 2020 - 10:59 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Gamakin...you are right that the anti argentine sentiment of the islanders is a problem for them, but worst problem is their siege mentality...both factor are like chains for them.
Aug 11th, 2020 - 11:38 pm - Link - Report abuse -4For argentina soverignty is rethorical...the main problem for argentina is the jurisdictional and constitutional link beetwen the islands and uk. Islanders can be free if the cut the rope and negotiate with argentina the shape of their selfdetermination...islanders are slaves of the dispute and the dispute key is the alien existence of uk in the southern limit of the world...islanders and argentines belongs to this southern limit, uk dont.
BH - the Islanders have their self-determination. What's to negotiate?
Aug 12th, 2020 - 12:11 am - Link - Report abuse +2I suspect I know you by a different name.
They have to negotiate in wich way argentina can accept the islanders as an entity different from uk...use your imagination.
Aug 12th, 2020 - 12:45 am - Link - Report abuse -3If not be prepare for an erverlasting dispute until argentina reach enough relative power to disbalance the status quo...in 3 decades argentina will have the same population of uk...time is playing against status quo my friend.
You don't owe a thief your property.
Aug 12th, 2020 - 02:14 am - Link - Report abuse +1It is poor thinking to say, “come on, you need to give a little of your property up or else they're going to take the whole thing from you”.
Aligning themselves with Chile seems to work a lot better for them anyway.
BH - a) you are not my friend, b) The islanders do not 'have to' negotiate anything and c) the size of your population is irrelevant, other than your economy is likely to be worse than now, if such is actually possible.
Aug 12th, 2020 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse +3@ THINK, no Argentinian civilians were expelled from the Falklands, it was only the military that was ,
Aug 12th, 2020 - 11:58 am - Link - Report abuse +2'@ BH. Argentina will never have a stronger military than the UK, and the Islanders do not have to negotiate anything with Argentina,
So much bull shit it reeks all the way to Europe!!
Aug 12th, 2020 - 12:27 pm - Link - Report abuse -2If you don't see things Patrick's way, you are full of dung.
Aug 12th, 2020 - 02:09 pm - Link - Report abuse +2That's why he shows off Alexander Betts as his hero.
A. Betts betrayed his people, his wife, his brothers, and his children.
Patrick thinks A. Betts is great, and you all are full of dung.
@Trimonde the only bull shit i can smell is from Buenos Aires every week., if you are so sure of your week case go to the ICJ,
Aug 12th, 2020 - 02:43 pm - Link - Report abuse +2They're just so ridiculous and transparent ! ... it's kind of funny actually.
Aug 12th, 2020 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Billy Hayes
Aug 12th, 2020 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse -1“Time is playing against status quo” Certainly is Wally.
”Wednesday, June 23rd 2004 - 21:00 UTC
International Hague Court “only alternative” for dispute
The International Court of the Hague is the “only alternative” capable of introducing new dynamics to the Falklands/Malvinas dispute, because “there are no more options for Argentina regarding Malvinas”, states Marcel Kohen an International Law Professor from the Geneva High Studies Institute.
https://en.mercopress.com/2004/06/23/international-hague-court-only-alternative-for-dispute
Billy Hayes
Aug 12th, 2020 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse +3What planet are you living on?
The S. Atlantic/Antarctic was been British Territory long before Argentina existed in any form and then overran Patagonia and TDF, to reach the S. Atlantic and become our neighbours.
In that part of the world Argentina is the “new kid on the block” and it has to be said, we had none of this trouble from the original neighbours.
When the British first arrived in the region it was entirely uninhabited, unlike Argentina.
By any measure, we have far more right to be in the S. Atlantic/Antarctic than you have to be in S. America.
Self-determination means they don’t have to negotiate anything with anybody.
Argentina should have become a world power a hundred years ago, but it didn’t and there is much less prospect of it ever happening now.
Trimonde
Yes, you can smell it from Buenos Aires all the way back to Spain and Southern Italy.
Must have arrived with the Conquistadors.
@bushpilot
Aug 13th, 2020 - 02:23 am - Link - Report abuse -4“Aligning themselves with Chile seems to work a lot better for them anyway.”
jajajajjajajaja
you must live in jupiter if you make such a silly comment and it's like thinking that uruguay is another partner.
the problem is that you say it from so far away.
and you don't understand the region and the political changes.
You have to see what the queen of thailand thinks? .Gorgory. Her opinion from thailand is very important.jajajaj :)
@ “Guillote”, again with “Roger Lorton” REALLY is that your only response !!
Aug 13th, 2020 - 09:01 am - Link - Report abuse +2The Islanders seem to be doing Very well for themselves Creating Trade partnerships with Chile & Uruguay !! just because they pay lip service to Argentina`s Spurious Claim does not mean they are going to go any further than verbal support.
STALKER ALERT! Take the RED TABLETS Gullible, and stay in your room.
Aug 13th, 2020 - 11:41 am - Link - Report abuse +1Güeón (Guillote) seems to continue my conclusion that he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer. The actual reality is that we Chileans have learned that living alongside a hysterical kleptomaniac crybaby — it's better to pacify their delusions by pretending to agree with them. The truth is however, we don't agree or trust them — but allow them their delusional dignity.
Aug 13th, 2020 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Guillote
Aug 13th, 2020 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse +1I don’t think I have ever heard other S. Americans say anything nice about Argentinians.
Although several Argentinians have said to me about other S. Americans “they hate us”.
Chile and Uruguay both have link with the Falklands, I believe the largest group of S. Americans living on the Islands are Chileans.
And don’t forget about the flights landing in Brazil your Gov was asking about, seems the Brazilians are still checking.
Apparently it is you who does not understand the region.
P. S. Get some help about this RL thing you have, mate its “unhealthy”.
Pugol-H
Aug 19th, 2020 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We have been in Malvinas long before we took Patagonia and when we arrive there was nothing there either. The UK didn't give a damn about settling Malvinas until we arrived.
MagnusMaster
Aug 19th, 2020 - 04:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0By “we” I presume you mean Argentina (or the UP of the river plate).
Don’t forget that Vernet got permission from the British Gov before establishing a settlement there, so it wasn’t actually your settlement, was it.
The issue of sovereignty was settled long before Argentina ever existed, never mind any Argentinian set foot on the Islands.
https://falklandstimeline.files.wordpress.com/2020/03/falkland-wars-1700-1850-1.pdf
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