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Falklands' return humanitarian flight: ample media coverage to the cancelling by Argentina

Thursday, August 20th 2020 - 10:58 UTC
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The Argentine government decision to impede a return humanitarian flight from Montevideo to Mount Pleasant Complex in the Falkland Islands received ample coverage in the Uruguayan and Argentine media. Read full article

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  • Dirk Dikkler

    No Big Surprise, These actions are just going back to the way Argentina behaved before and the results will still be the same !!! the Islanders will Adapt and Overcome the Challenges placed before them as they have done for Decades !!

    Aug 20th, 2020 - 08:31 am - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Brit Bob

    Only the Republic of Narnia wants to colonise the Falklands.

    Aug 20th, 2020 - 09:33 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Islander1

    Guess Argentina will of course not be expecting to continue with the humanitarian work on DNA Identification of their war casualties then.
    Its they who are throwing Humanitarian co-operation out the window.

    Aug 20th, 2020 - 10:06 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Livepeanuts

    Mr Kent HM's Ambassador should look at this, and here is the reciprocity of Argentina for allowing them to fly their flag on the Falklands!
    See it Mr. Kent.. where did our generosity get us?
    They don't want more they are demanding it you fool!

    Aug 20th, 2020 - 10:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • kelperabout

    Humanitarian means absolutely nothing to Argentina. When you can make disappear more than twenty thousand of your own people and remove an indigenous people to acquire land proves they do not care for humanity.
    What they care for is human greed that is a major part of their history.
    Denying the right for stranded fisherman to get back to their countries because of a world pandemic is the lowest of the low of a government who has no interest in humanity.
    One day the rest of the world will wake up to the fact that Argentina is not the free loving country it portrays itself to be but one of aggression and no compassion for others.
    They even try to control their neighbouring countries when they are attempting to show humanitarian and business relations with Falkland Islanders.
    Argentina is a rogue land grabbing country who thinks they can get everything they want using foul means.
    The Falkland islands people know this and will continue to operate their economy how they please and simply go round this dictator.
    The one thing the islanders have that Argentina does not is a healthy reserve so using more expensive options is feasible and Argentina who is 65 billion in debt is struggling to stay afloat.
    Argentina has a habit of cutting off it's own nose to spite its face.
    Terrorism never pays and one day Argentina will feel the might of the rest if the world you can count on that.

    Aug 20th, 2020 - 10:30 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Judge Jose

    Argentina- the country that gave thousands of Nazis sanctuary, time for FIG to stop any Argentines visiting the islands, sounds harsh but you reap what you sow,

    Aug 20th, 2020 - 11:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    Livepeanuts
    As I understand it the relatives were allowed to hold a flag “chest high”, which had to be a standard flag, no pictures of Islands on it.

    Which allowed them their moment, and cost you nothing, just reminded them you decide on flags, not them.

    Judge Jose
    Then you become as bad as them, the idea here is to be better, the relatives are not responsible for the current situation, they are the victims of the last one, punishment enough really.

    Aug 20th, 2020 - 11:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Billy Hayes

    Popeyes could have sailed to Montevideo...please dont try to use humanitarian flights to uncover commercial purposes of the illegal fishing activity at south atlantic ocean.

    Aug 20th, 2020 - 12:00 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Pugol-H

    Billy Hayes
    It’s not illegal if they have a licence from the FIG.

    Aug 20th, 2020 - 12:34 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • pgerman

    Many know me on this forum for my comments for years now. I do not have to renew my comments of contempt towards the populist fascism of Peronism that currently governs Argentina.

    But, if a charter flight transports three islanders and more than twenty sailors from a private fishing company back to the islands, the flight does not qualify as “humanitarian.”

    Aug 20th, 2020 - 02:14 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Think

    Even a blind Mason finds a nut once in a while...
    https://decalageweb.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/iu-12.jpeg?w=600&h=480

    Aug 20th, 2020 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Pugol-H

    pgerman
    Well, if you want to be “picky” about it, however it is cost effective.

    Not that it is a problem for the Aircraft to fly round Argy airspace either.

    Aug 20th, 2020 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Think

    Goood news day today...

    1) The new generation of stingy Kelpers administering Malvinas have showed all of us that..., in order to save some pennies in gas money.., they are not only willing to lie about “humanitarian” flights..., but also ready to abandon their elderly in a foreign Dago Country...

    2) That Bloody Yank Devil called Steve Bannon has just fallen..., monetarily defrauding them turnips that followed him and his white supremacist Anglo ideals...

    3) That Sweet Swede Lass called Greta Thunberg has just had a two hours audience with Angela Merkel... Angela promessed Greta she'll try to be a braver girl...

    Think is happy....

    Aug 20th, 2020 - 05:35 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Alfox

    The Argentine airspace is made up of the airspace over its territory, including territorial waters, 12 nautical miles wide, in which it exercises full sovereignty, and the airspace over the high seas, this is over the Exclusive Economic Zone and beyond, whose administration has been entrusted to it by the ICAO International Civil Aviation Organization, in which it is only responsible for providing Air Navigation and SAR Services but in which it does not exercise sovereignty. of that international airspace
    The route to Ascensión Island crosses that space as does the route to Montevideo, without penetrating sovereign airspace.

    Aug 20th, 2020 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Exactly..., Mr. Alfox...

    I suppose that..., to be on the safe side..., the Paraguayan Amaszonas Airline requested some extra gas money and some insurance surcharge for any eventual complication that could arise on this chartered service...

    But..., some bloody stingy ones in them Islands seem to prefer to lie to their Uruguayan friends and disrespect and misuse the “Humanitarian Transport” concept instead of opening their wallets and putting a couple of extra Pounds on the table...

    Capisce...?

    Aug 20th, 2020 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • kelperabout

    Think *
    Need to correct you on one point.it was not about the money but about the pressure put on by that land grabbing country called Argentina.
    Fact is and has been sugested on facebook that Brazil and Uruguay cow down to Argentine demands because they dont want to upset the billions of dollars trade that flows between each other.
    That is where the weakness lies not in as you say stingy islanders. We are already saying just pay the extra and have the plane fly around Argentine airspace just to prove that we can do what we like without the bull coming out if that dreadful regime you so love.

    Aug 20th, 2020 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Think

    Kelper Kelperabout...

    - Pathetic whinging about them 29 ***”POOR STRANDED FISHERMEN (as you call them) that can't get back to their countries because of a world pandemic”***...

    A) Those 29 “POOR STRANDED FISHERMEN” ..., as you call them..., can EASILY get back to their countries under the world pandemic...

    B) Those 29 “POOR STRANDED FISHERMEN”..., as you call them..., are the crews of the Spanish Lotaidor and the Kiwi/Sta. Elena Argos Froyanes fishing vessels which are..., as I type these lines..., happily sailing & fishing the Malvinas /Falklands waters...

    C) The wellbeing and home-transport of those 29 “POOR STRANDED FISHERMEN”..., as you call them..., is the primary responsibility of their respective Fishing Company employers... which I believe have a significant percentage of Kelper ownership...

    Soooo..., go whinge to the right place..., Kelper kelperabout...

    - Go and bitch at them Kelper Sqidllonaires half-owned fishing companies offices located in downtown Puerto Estanley..., ak them to take responsibility and sail their own employees/citizens with their own ships to their own countries...

    Capisce...?

    Aug 20th, 2020 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • kelperabout

    You sure get through a lot of gripe Think.
    As it happens most of those stranded folk are from Russia and are they not your allies.
    What I do see from your whinging is that you are extremely jealous of how successful we kelpers are.
    What is even nicer is that we are over here enjoying the bounty while you are stuck over there in a debt laden country that has nothing to actually do anything about what we do and that is the whole reason why you get so worked up.
    Also as we type those humanitarian folk are sailing right up the coast of Argentina in international waters and the best bit is they are heading for Uruguay to connect with the same flights back to their homes.
    I am proud to be a falkland islander that shares the same humanitarian feelings that our fishing businesses have towards their people and in deed any other individual that is currently stick because of covid.
    Argentina cares little for their own people let alone compassion for foreigners.
    So go sit somewhere quietly and have a nice cup of British tea it will soothe away those hatred thoughts.
    Then write to the international court of justice and explain to them your feelings about those pesky hard working honest kelpers that did not remove an indigenous people to settle the land.
    Then when their ruling is made accept it and stop getting yourself in a frenzy.
    Right I now must away and have that nice cup of tea my good lady just made for me. Have a pleasant evening you old war monger.

    Aug 20th, 2020 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Alfox

    It does not matter if the flight is humanitarian or not. Unless it enters sovereign airspace, it is a civil aircraft, flying in international airspace administered by Argentina. Does not require permission other than the flight plan.

    Aug 20th, 2020 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Perhaps Argentina should abide by the treaties that she is signatory to.
    Chicago Convention which she signed on 4 June 1946. Also known as:
    The International Air Services Transit Agreement, 1944
    containing what has come to be known as ”The Two Freedoms”.
    1) The privilege to fly across the territory of a state without landing;
    2) The privilege to land for non-traffic purposes; which she signed on 4 June 1946.

    Aug 20th, 2020 - 09:55 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Pugol-H

    Stink
    Where to start, oh yes, the envy drips from your every word, whinging like a Tart (Puta) who hasn’t been paid, a not uncommon experience for you, I suspect.

    “Kelper Sqidllonaires”, ops, hurt does it, of course it does, suck it up Mate, nothing you can do about it!

    It seems the rest of S. America does not share your view, flights continue, Argentina complains, flights continue, what can you say?

    It’s almost as if they don’t really listen to Argentina, well not enough to do anything about it.

    With Argentina being soooo popular in S. America and all.

    Shocker.

    I particularly liked the statement, “white supremacist Anglo ideals”, coming from an “Indian Murdering, Thieving, Creole Planter Bastard, Descendant of NogF*ck the F*ckwitt, squatting upon land the native population were ethnically cleansed from”, was priceless.

    Perhaps I should explain, “however it is cost effective”, joke, piss take, not meant as a serious comment, need I continue???

    Capishhhhhh!!!

    Aug 20th, 2020 - 10:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Kelper kelperabout...

    ***Also as we type those humanitarian folk are sailing right up the coast of Argentina in international waters and the best bit is they are heading for Uruguay to connect with the same flights back to their homes“***..., you write...
    Well...., problem lost then...
    What are you whinging about then...?

    ***”So go sit somewhere quietly and have a nice cup of British tea”***..., you say...
    British tea...?
    Sounds awfull...!
    If ya don't mind..., I'll stick to some good Indian Margaret's Hope 2019 first flush Darjeeling...

    Pleasant evening to you too..., Kelper...

    Aug 20th, 2020 - 10:25 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Pugol-H

    Nah, Mate with Peyote and a galleon of Whiskey, will do for you Stink.

    Aug 20th, 2020 - 10:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guillote

    @MPiss
    “The request was for transporting a born Islander and a couple of Islands' residents to their homes”
    very very rare. why do they make this difference?
    Talk about 3 people who want to go home. why do they make that difference?

    @Terence Hill
    ”Perhaps Argentina should abide by the treaties that she is signatory to.
    Chicago Convention which she signed on 4 June 1946. Also known as:
    The International Air Services Transit Agreement, 1944
    containing what has come to be known as ”The Two Freedoms”.
    1) The privilege to fly across the territory of a state without landing;
    2) The privilege to land for non-traffic purposes; which she signed on 4 June 1946.”
    WOW
    You would be a new self-proclaimed researcher and without any doubt inpartial.
    go to https://independent.academia.edu and you will publish totally partial garbage that nobody reads
    and call FCO and explain your great discovery, they do not know only you.:) jajajaj

    In the end, the sailors came back sailing, because some private person tries to disguise a humanitarian flight with a theme that has to be paid for by private parties.

    @PGpiss
    “ received ample coverage in the Uruguayan and Argentine media.” jajajajajajajajajaj.dejen de mentir.

    Aug 21st, 2020 - 02:54 am - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Pugol-H

    https://www.clarin.com/tema/islas-malvinas.html

    Aug 21st, 2020 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Uruguay Man

    “Alfox”, so Argentina now claims 350 miles past it's coast AND can interdict the air route between Asencion Island and the Falklands? Please tell me just how long those 1970's vintage aircraft will last against the Drones operated by the British, let alone the Typhoons or F35's?

    You will find that they can be upgraded to the hilt, yet not see a single 1 of the 10+ A2A missiles carried by the Typhoons station just in the Falklands. God help the Argentines threats when one of the Carriers and their F35's is in the area!

    There's no 350 mile limit, nor is there anything over the 12-mile limit, the Falkland Islands Government will not allow Argentina to try and enforce it.

    Aug 22nd, 2020 - 02:04 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Guillote

    @PGpiss
    “ received ample coverage in the Uruguayan and Argentine media.” jajajajajajajajajaj.dejen de mentir.
    Pugol-H
    https://www.clarin.com/tema/islas-malvinas.html
    jajajajajajaja
    your theory is that argies who read clarin enter to https://www.clarin.com/tema/islas-malvinas.html
    and not to https://www.clarin.com/tema/islas-malvinas.html
    look that I know idiot people but you passes all parameters.(se me rompio el boludometro en tu caso)
    @Uruguay Man
    “Drones operated by the British, let alone the Typhoons or F35's,God help the Argentines threats when one of the Carriers and their F35's is in the area!”
    En tu caso creo que solo tenes que dejar la merca que te esta pegando mal.Y si te queres seguir drogando es tu problema pero no me interesan los drogones.
    pero de verdad trata de ver tu caso con alguien.saludos.
    @MPiss
    “The request was for transporting a born Islander and a couple of Islands' residents to their homes, following medical attention in the British Hospital in Montevideo. The humanitarian flight had been originally approved by Argentine authorities, but the return became complicated since the Amaszonas aircraft, after delivering the Islanders, was scheduled to fly to Montevideo with some twenty plus fishermen, who worked for the international companies operating in Falklands waters with Falklands licenses, which Argentina strongly rejects.”
    El vuelo estaba Ok pero alguien se paso de vivo.
    PN & MP You should investigate that private from the islands did not want to pay what they should and made the sailors who hate the sea pass as a humanitarian flight, but for that, there should be independent journalism on the islands.

    Aug 22nd, 2020 - 04:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • darragh

    Sans-culotte

    You need to use a better translator as I can make precious little sense of your Spanglish

    Aug 22nd, 2020 - 12:29 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Think

    Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee....

    A Paddy havin' troubles understanding Engrish...

    How very seldom...

    Chuckle...

    Aug 22nd, 2020 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Pugol-H

    Uruguay Man
    The 350 miles is the extent of the seabed claim, makes no difference to freedom of navigation of ships/Aircraft.

    12 miles territorial, up to 200 miles EEZ and now an additional seabed claim out to 350 miles.

    The UK registered its seabed claim some years before Argentina did, UN will not decide on claims where there is a dispute, they just register them.

    Enforcing their claim just isn’t an option for them.

    'sans-culotte' (Lol)
    So it was covered in the Argy media, you just didn’t see it.

    Just type in “Malvinas”, or “Falklands” works just as well, even with the Clarin website.

    Not too complicated for you.

    For future reference, save you embarrassing yourself again, Clarin covers most of the MalviNazi news.

    Aug 22nd, 2020 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • darragh

    Think

    You 'think' that what sans-culotte writes is English! - no wonder you spend your life so confused.

    Aug 22nd, 2020 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Roger Lorton

    How very seldom... ???

    What language is that?

    Aug 23rd, 2020 - 04:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Engrish... ;-)).

    Aug 23rd, 2020 - 07:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Roger Lorton

    Brummie, it ain't

    Aug 23rd, 2020 - 08:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Londonian Yiddengrish it is..., lad...

    As in...:
    ***“How very seldom do you encounter in the world a man of great abilities, acquirements, experience..........”***
    Benjamin D.

    Capisce...?

    Aug 23rd, 2020 - 09:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    More like Argy Gibberish.

    Capishhhhh!

    Aug 23rd, 2020 - 03:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Roger Lorton

    You are indeed, very old, Old 'Un.

    Aug 23rd, 2020 - 11:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    There just might be some of truth to the old adage...: “With age comes wisdom.”

    Aug 24th, 2020 - 02:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guillote

    @darragh
    Sans-culotte?
    What does it mean in this century?
    there is no doubt that my English is not native one, but the matter is what I say
    and the silence of Islander1 right now.
    @pgerman wrote
    “Many know me on this forum for my comments for years now. I do not have to renew my comments of contempt towards the populist fascism of Peronism that currently governs Argentina.
    But, if a charter flight transports three islanders and more than twenty sailors from a private fishing company back to the islands, the flight does not qualify as “humanitarian.””
    @MPiss
    “The request was for transporting a born Islander and a couple of Islands' residents to their homes” raro
    @Mercopress
    “ received ample coverage in the Uruguayan and Argentine media.” FAKE NEWS
    @Pugol-H
    For me, a problem in the world today is people who can read but do not understand what they read.. Which is your case.
    No tengo un problema con vos y claramente sabes leer, el problema es que no comprendes lo que leiste.
    the fact that clarin published the note that you looked for does not mean that people in general read it.
    Viviendo MUY lejos en una caja de zapatos y con internet te pueden hacer creer que todo es real.MP&PN
    For me, some private person to save money took advantage of a really humanitarian flight, which at the end was made.

    Aug 24th, 2020 - 05:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • darragh

    Sans-culotte

    It means exactly the same in this century as it did in the last century and the one before that etc.

    you said “For me, a problem in the world today is people who can read but do not understand what they read” which you have demonstrated by reading but not understanding 'sans-culotte' - ever heard of 'Les Miserables'?

    Aug 24th, 2020 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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