The display of a stand promoting the disputed “Islas Malvinas” as a British dependency, at the UK pavilion in a Uruguayan agriculture and productions show, was rejected by the Argentine government. Read full article
Behaving like little children , they seriously need to grow up,Uruguay is more than likely sick to death of the Argentine governments constant moaning,
The thing is these useless benny hillbillies dont know sh*te about agriculture. So they dont have anything to do there.
Their main activitiy is getting drunk... sad
pc2020- your the one who clearly knows zero about the islands Agriculture. Seems odd there is a close relationship between Islands and Uruguayan Framers with social and professional visits to each others countries at times.
You make me remember a quote form a Uruguayan friend- we get lots and lots of Argentine Tourists coming to Uruguay, and to invest and settle here- as we are the Country they never became/
The Falkland Islanders obviously know more about agriculture, finance, self-determination, democracy etc.etc. etc than Argentina does.
Though to be fair Argentina knows an awful lot more about reneging on it's debts, murdering it's own people, dictatorships, harbouring nazis etc. etc. - sad....
pc2020
Mate they need to be there just to annoy the Argy Planters over the river, getting drunks is just a bonus.
You see the problem is actually an Argentinian one, not a S. American one.
Truth is the rest of S. America just don’t like you.
If there were another conflict (heaven forbid), all S. American countries would “support Argy Hermanos”.
Venezuela, Cuba maybe Bolivia would send help, if they had any to send. Brazil, Peru, Colombia would complain but do nothing. Chile and Uruguay whilst saying they support Argentina would probably secretly help the British.
Pugol en contra, clearly you are another useless benny hillbilly who has never left pork stanley in his whole sad life... nobody in SoAm trust the british pirates an a lot less its anachronistic colony.
The whole continent supports Argentina, and now we have to add the WHOLE EU, Africa, Asia, and.... THE BRITISH TAXPAYERS, who are milked by parasites like YOU without their consent.
Got it???
PC- I have asked you this before- so now again- What is the money the Islands receive from British Taxpayers5
We buy British Goods and ship then here- approx. £100-£150million a year at least.We recruit workers from UK and pay them well - and a big lot of that ends up back in the UK Bank Accounts- several £ millions a year.
Our taxes pay for about 40 odd students a year to go to UK to study at Colleges and Universities- brings those Education places in UK a £million or two a year.
And so the list goes on - so do please tell us what the UK taxpayer pays for down here?
By the way the whole EU does NOT support Argentina- nor does ALL Africa- nor ALL ASIA.
You can't expect answers from the idiot pc2020 (although I notice his English has suddenly got worse, again) as he, like a lot of his compatriots knows precious little about anything - I put it down to their appalling educational system.
He knows damn well that the FI don't cost the UK anything tax wise. He just wants to be offensive.
In future I shall just ignore his idiotic rantings.
diarrheag: Funny you talk about idioms when you are a hopeless monoglot like most of the british and british wannabes.
Of course, both the useless benny hillbillies and the smelly llanitos are a burden for the british taxpayer.
Do you understand English, you diarrheag, or only Patois?
Then try with google translator and READ AND LEARN this artticle written by a real British, not a british wannabe like you.
Burro https://gulfnews.com/opinion/op-eds/gibraltar-and-the-falklands-deny-the-logic-of-history-1.1221049
I am waiting for pc2020 to make a Freudian slip and write ... Engrish ...
If the UK government were so benevolent as BorJo claims, the UK would send a paper handkerchief to wipe the tears to each and every Argentino who, in Argentina's dire state, cares about something so minor as who owns the British Falkland Islands - ie. all 460,000 of them. The remaining 42,000,000 Argentinos have enough to do staying alive in the country's decaying economy.
The current actions and Saber rattling by the Argentine is a re-run of 1982. When ever the government of the Argentine is in trouble and can't pay it's Debt it goes to War or gets into a boarder dispute with some one. Now they're doing both. It isn't like the People on the Falkland's just got there or that the Argentina's would put the land to good use...It's just a way of distracting the people in a time of trouble and a hope to get the fishing rights and oil rights that they can sell and steal the money.
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Buenos Aires should read some of their own recent History...
pc2020
Oh dear, losing it somewhat here 2020, suck it up boy, just like they taught you in La Campora.
See what I mean, you are getting upset enough just by Kelpers being here, and speaking.
And you are the only one here who needs Google Translate to speak English (never mind any form of Patios), although it is not everyone’s mother tongue or even first language.
Tonto (and I don’t mean as in Hi Ho Silver away, the lone ranger, I mean as in Fool (Spanish)).
Mr. Kent taking note of this?
This is reciprocating and reconciliation in the indoctrinated fascist Argentina's style. Every time it will be like this, no matter how nice you were to them yesterday!
Is this what they taught you in the Marxist ivory towers of Oxford and Cambridge? Perhaps the good old British Compromise?
To understand this you MUST understand indoctrination and its consequences.
If you CAN understand indoctrination you will understand many of our problems like Argentina and like Islam, it is the same thing, you can't negotiate with either because of the indoctrination has made the mental structures rigid and unchangeable and you debate with a wall, with a written constitution.
PC2020- So you base your Knowledge and Understanding- on a 7year old newspaper article written by One journalist in a well known left leaning newspaper !!!
Jesus- you are even thicker than I thought you were. You know - in order to understand where Argentina is coming from(or is trying to come from) I have read lots of historical articles printed in Argentina and talked to many hundreds of ordinary Argentines- as the only way to understand a dispute - is to understand the case of both sides - so them you can form a better judged opinion as to who is correct.
It might help you and some of your nuttier politicians if they tried the same.
Nest thing you will be claiming that the nasty Brits expelled all the people from Argentina from the islands in 1833!
1)- El Think regrets yet again the presence of the disputed Islas Falkland/Malvinas stand at the Prado Rural Show...
2) - If I remember correctly the Uruguayan authorities have..., in a couple of previous shows..., ask the British authorities to close down the offending stand..., what them Engrish did...
- I Think I remember a certain promess from one Engrish ambassadeur to the Yorugua authorities not to repeat such stunt...
Oh my..., oh my..., was he telling porkies to the Uruguayans...
3)- Nice promoting lasses in the above picture... Don't seem to recognize any of them...
- Is it maybe because of the masks..., or because they are Charrúas...?
This Rural Show is probably a private enterprise. How could a foreign government (Argentina's) order another government (Uruguay's) to close down a stand at that show, just because they do not like some of the content in it? Is Uruguay in some way an Argentine puppet state?
Looks like you think wrong, Thunk. Uruguay is currently sticking 2 fingers up at Argentina's complaints and the islander were invited after all.
You should see social media. The Uruguays are really having a go at the Malvinistas. The word - Falkland - keeps appearing in Spanish text. Better than the TV
On the other hand, what stand (LOL) are these @ssholes talking about?
That is NOT a stand but a pair of cardboards, a poster and a pile of sh*te.
These isleteers and there idea of architecture.... MEIN GOTT!!!!
Islander1, your comment although true, is unfair. Open up the Falklands to people from the UK to go and live. At present anyone from the UK can visit the Falklands, but not work without a permit that only lasts 4 years and may be withdrawn at any time. Without the ability for people from the British Isles to come and make a life for themselves without fear of being suddenly unemployed, therefore unable to make a life for themselves, there will always be issues with emigrants from the UK to the Falklands.
What we need to do is incorporate the Falklands into sending it's own MP to Westminster to speak for the Islands. Remove the work permit requiring emigrants from the British Isles after say, 12 months. People want to be sure or be able to know what it's really like before committing a permanent move.
Please don't belittle the money spent on the defence of the Falklands. There's hardly a person in the UK who begrudge or resent it. A child born in the Falklands or Falkirk are just as British as each other.
Are you talking about Argentines? because you should know that they are rather touchy about being compared to worms because worms have to work for a living,
diarrheag is talking about working... LOL X 1 BILLION.
You, dear creatures of the islets are known for being parasites, squatters, arrivistas and lazy asses.
The words work, job, study, profession, etc are OUT of your poor, poor vocabulary
Pibito
If things are so shit in the “Islets”, tell me again why you thieving Creole, Conquistador Planter Bastards, are so desperate to “implant” yourselves there?
TiTMond
Wow man, like a – in the word(s), yeahhhh clever shitttttt dude, technical yeah. Impress ss ssive guy. Wow. Yeah, Dude. Shit!!!!!
The whole continent supports Argentina,.... Wow, a wee overstatement.
Fact is, only Venezuela supports Argyland's ridiculous claim...not exactly the whole continent....as to Bolivia, I'm sure they have more important internal issues to think about.
Brazil doesn't really support Argentina's claim...it only pretends to....because it's the diplomatic way of saying f*ck off , and easier to deal with.
But as you say, his 'MEIN GOTT !!!! ' is indicative of something unsavory...perhaps a Nazi still hiding out in Argy Patagonia ?
Funny thing though, is that while many idiots like pc20 express their disdain for the Falkland's, they keep on whining because they can't have them.
Think they should sh*t or get off the pot.
Britain took by force islands it had never properly nor officially come to posses, because they were about a dispute it had never won nor resolved. They took them from a new claimant country which contrary to Britain was settled on the islands and had a political logic for their sovereign right to posses them. Britain saw the opportunity offered by that country not being able to defend itself, and that therefore it would be their last chance to grab these islands, now that their original rivals were no longer claiming them. Then it sent its own people to stand their ground with some bull shit lie about an oversees territory in order to keep the country it had expelled by force off the islands.
That's all there is to it, so; as you can see there is no dispute or conflict. Just a narrative that explains what happened. But since the British recent being the robbing bullies and abusers of the story, they retaliate with guilt and scornful insolence, attacking Argentina itself with a hateful bigoted arrogance which all too transparently attempts to hide the fact that they're on the wrong, rather than calmly and confidently making their points with a sense of maturity and respect... which they can't because, they know they don't have any such points.
This is basically the reason why the British always react with hysterical defensive belittlement and insolence towards anyone who attempts to bring up any of their numerous territorial issues characterized by their usurping abuse of power and military bullying, which they all are.
Trimonde
A dispute it had never won nor resolved. It was both won and resolved in 1982. In compliance with international law, and the approval of the UN.
Trimonde
Sorry, but no ... I'm thinking. The point is, you don't.
Who engaged in an act of illegal force?
Who lost that issue?
Who doesn't have to engage in dispute resolution?
Who is up the provable creek without a paddle?
There is no obligation in general international law to settle disputes.
Principles of Public International Law, third edition, 1979 by Ian Brownlie
Britain engaged in an act of illegal force, in 1833. It had no right to depose a country that claimed the islands without opposition in sound political, and geographical logic. Britain did not want to lose a military outpost, it never intended to colonize and incorporate the islands like Argentina had, until it needed to in order to fake legitimacy.
Who's talking about international law? I'm talking about being good and respectful human beings that know how to properly share this Earth, without resorting to guns and bullshit in order to grab stuff from others in the world. If you can't even have that discussion, what's the point of talking about any law?
Trimonde
Britain “engaged in an act of illegal force”, in 1833. They were in complete compliance with international law then.
General theory of law and state by Hans Kelsen
214 The Elements Of The State
Nevertheless, there occurs, according to international law, a territorial change, provided that the occupation, made with the intention of incorporating the occupied territory into the territory of the occupying State, assumes a permanent character, and that means that the legal order of the occupying State becomes efficacious for the territory in question. … Taking possession through military force of the territory of another State against the latter's will is possible, however, without any military resistance on the part of the victim. Provided that a unilateral act of force performed by one State against another is not considered to be war in itself (war being, according to traditional opinion, a contention between two or more States through their armed forces and hence at least a bilateral action) annexation is not only possible in time of war, but also in time of peace. The decisive point is that annexation, that is, taking possession of another State's territory with the intention to acquire it, constitutes acquisition of this territory even without the consent of the State to which the territory previously belonged, if the possession is firmly established. It makes no difference whether the annexation takes place after an occupatio bellica or not.
Don't be ridiculous! Britain had no jurisdiction over Malvinas, YOUR OWN COUNTRY HAS BOTH ADMITTED AND AVOIDED THAT MATTER. What international law involved both Argentina and Britain then ANYWAYS !? Stop shooting out of you ass already will ya???
So Hans Kelsen law applies to Argentina taking possession of the islands then! WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU SAYING!?
Annexation in times of war? WE WERE NOT AT WAR YOU LYING CHEATS! You were faking being our friends in Buenos Aires, while robbing our land with the other hand! Plus your possession WAS NOT firmly established. Quite the opposite. Our possession however WAS.
You live in the world you want to be true, not the world that is. Yet another British sociopath! WHAT A SURPRISE !
TiTMonde
In 1833 the British recovered the Falklands after they were illegally invaded by the UP of the River Plate in 1832 and the diplomatic protests were ignored.
The UP garrison were evicted and the settlers allowed to stay, they had permission from the British to be there.
The British first raised their flag there in 1690, the first people to do so.
That is ”the uncomfortable truth” about history, for you.
My advice to you is to up your white ovals tablets to 200mg and your little pink round ones to 150mg. Don’t forget to avoid grapefruit and make sure you take them with food.
Then I‘d like you to do a little exercise in your journal. I want you to write down how you’re feeling this week and compare that to how you were the week before. Then I want you to write down the things you think that have changed to make you feel like this. What can you do to help you feel better?
We’ve talked about the Falklands lots of times before, and that is something that isn’t going to change. So what can you focus on to take your mind off it? Are you still socializing? Remember how much worse you feel when you lock yourself away from the world.
Up your meds, do your exercise, and come and see me again next week.
pc2020, the people in the Falklands are no burden on the British. They ARE our brothers and sisters, no burden in the family of the Commonwealth. The Falklands people can pick and chose as little or as much Britishness as they wish!
In 1833 the islands did not belong to Britain. It is just that simple. Anything that tries to deny that is propagandist educational brain washing through British sourced medias of communication. Clearly the British did not consider the islands significant enough to possess when they left Port Egmont after the battle with Spain and Buenos Aires over the islands. Leaving a plaque on the beach warning others that the islands belong to Britain means absolutely nothing real, and is nothing more than ridiculous imperialistic greed delusionally thinking it can pick and choose what to keep of our world, in the same spirit it has attacked usurped and robbed the peoples of India, of Africa, of the Middle East and the South Pacific. You's is a society that has been groomed sick to believe it has more rights to this world than others, and that war is fair game for taking things from other countries. Completely arrogant pedantic fascistic thinking logic, yet ultimately sociopathically ill minded.
Jealousy will get you nowhere - you are so green with envy that it twists your very soul.
Grow up, take some pills if you want but stop being such a fool.
Nobody cares about what happened 200-300 years ago. The only thing that matters is what the Falkland Islanders themselves desire today in the 21st century.
Nobody cares what Argentina thinks, yesterday, today or tomorrow - it is nothing to do with them what the FI want.
It seems to me that Argentina has no right to condemn or even criticise the British Empire unless Argentina prepared to realise that it to attacked, usurped and robbed the peoples of South America. The difference is, of course that the British Empire has been dissolved whereas the Argentine Empire is still in existence and desperately trying to enlarge itself in the South Atlantic and Antarctica at the expense of the FI and others.
You know ... I'm a bit of a psychology buff and I got to tell you, the continuous flow of identical and repetitive responses I get from specific cultures have taught me so much about their cultural mindset and reasoning, that I can only be humbly thankful for it.
One that comes up often is your jealousy as in - you are so green with envy and even more often Nobody cares what Argentina thinks, yesterday, today or tomorrow. The correlation with this depiction of YOUR cultural personality uncannily corroborates your country's history long record of rape, piracy usurpation, phony invitations to collaborate so as to insert your advantages in unsuspecting countries. Your deeply seeded evil as a nation, in other words.
I was not born in Argentina, nor do I live there, which gives me an invaluable audience seat perceptive through which I could not enjoy more watching how a country that has managed to fool the world of its virtuous, so lowly and pathetically looks for the wounded, the trusting, the needy and the weak to leach off like a scavenging greedy vulture, only motivated by those instances in which it notices others moving in on something, whatever that may be, trying to make sure they don't grab something valuable in every case they are able to be overpowered. Rats of the world. Jealous of that??? ... No sweetie, that is only what you need to believe in order to not face your own carcass of a wretched soulless and bloodless being.
The correlation with this depiction of YOUR cultural personality uncannily corroborates your country's history long record of rape, piracy usurpation, phony invitations to collaborate so as to insert your advantages in unsuspecting countries. Your deeply seeded evil as a nation, in other words..
Showing your ignorance again... I assume the above is levelled at the UK although it better fits Spain and Portugal. It will come as a great disappointment to you then for me to inform you (as everyone who reads these threads well knows) that I am not British nor American nor Spanish nor Portuguese nor Argentine (thank God)...
So I will follow your example and repeat myself:-
Jealousy will get you nowhere - you are so green with envy that it twists your very soul.
Grow up, take some pills if you want but stop being such a fool.
Nobody cares about what happened 200-300 years ago. The only thing that matters is what the Falkland Islanders themselves desire today in the 21st century.
Nobody cares what Argentina thinks, yesterday, today or tomorrow - it is nothing to do with them what the FI want.
It seems to me that Argentina has no right to condemn or even criticise the British Empire unless Argentina prepared to realise that it to attacked, usurped and robbed the peoples of South America. The difference is, of course that the British Empire has been dissolved whereas the Argentine Empire is still in existence and desperately trying to enlarge itself in the South Atlantic and Antarctica at the expense of the FI and others.
Titmonde: You's is a society that has been groomed sick to believe it has more rights to this world than others, and that war is fair game for taking things from other countries. Completely arrogant pedantic fascistic thinking logic, yet ultimately sociopathically ill minded.
In 1833 the islands did not belong to Britain....
Well, if you consider that in 1832 England did (own the Falkland's), and that after 6 weeks of occupation by an illegal Argy force in 1833 (as they were still a Spanish colony), England regained them, I think that what TiTMonde is trying to convey is that the Argies were under the impression that they were not Britain's for 6 weeks - in 1833.....only problem is he does not know how to explain it clearly.
And his I'm a bit of a “psychology buff”, says it all....no need to explain any further.....what he meant to say was 'pyschotic buffoon'.
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Sep 12th, 2020 - 10:00 am - Link - Report abuse +5‘We appeal to the traditional support of Uruguay...’
Sep 12th, 2020 - 10:08 am - Link - Report abuse +3That’s exactly what you’ve got.
Behaving like little children , they seriously need to grow up,Uruguay is more than likely sick to death of the Argentine governments constant moaning,
Sep 12th, 2020 - 10:17 am - Link - Report abuse +3The thing is these useless benny hillbillies dont know sh*te about agriculture. So they dont have anything to do there.
Sep 12th, 2020 - 11:09 am - Link - Report abuse -10Their main activitiy is getting drunk... sad
pc2020- your the one who clearly knows zero about the islands Agriculture. Seems odd there is a close relationship between Islands and Uruguayan Framers with social and professional visits to each others countries at times.
Sep 12th, 2020 - 11:18 am - Link - Report abuse +2You make me remember a quote form a Uruguayan friend- we get lots and lots of Argentine Tourists coming to Uruguay, and to invest and settle here- as we are the Country they never became/
pc2020.
Sep 12th, 2020 - 12:15 pm - Link - Report abuse +5Clearly another of 'thinks' sock puppets
The Falkland Islanders obviously know more about agriculture, finance, self-determination, democracy etc.etc. etc than Argentina does.
Though to be fair Argentina knows an awful lot more about reneging on it's debts, murdering it's own people, dictatorships, harbouring nazis etc. etc. - sad....
pc2020
Sep 12th, 2020 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse +5Mate they need to be there just to annoy the Argy Planters over the river, getting drunks is just a bonus.
You see the problem is actually an Argentinian one, not a S. American one.
Truth is the rest of S. America just don’t like you.
If there were another conflict (heaven forbid), all S. American countries would “support Argy Hermanos”.
Venezuela, Cuba maybe Bolivia would send help, if they had any to send. Brazil, Peru, Colombia would complain but do nothing. Chile and Uruguay whilst saying they support Argentina would probably secretly help the British.
Pugol en contra, clearly you are another useless benny hillbilly who has never left pork stanley in his whole sad life... nobody in SoAm trust the british pirates an a lot less its anachronistic colony.
Sep 12th, 2020 - 07:32 pm - Link - Report abuse -9The whole continent supports Argentina, and now we have to add the WHOLE EU, Africa, Asia, and.... THE BRITISH TAXPAYERS, who are milked by parasites like YOU without their consent.
Got it???
PC- I have asked you this before- so now again- What is the money the Islands receive from British Taxpayers5
Sep 12th, 2020 - 10:15 pm - Link - Report abuse +6We buy British Goods and ship then here- approx. £100-£150million a year at least.We recruit workers from UK and pay them well - and a big lot of that ends up back in the UK Bank Accounts- several £ millions a year.
Our taxes pay for about 40 odd students a year to go to UK to study at Colleges and Universities- brings those Education places in UK a £million or two a year.
And so the list goes on - so do please tell us what the UK taxpayer pays for down here?
By the way the whole EU does NOT support Argentina- nor does ALL Africa- nor ALL ASIA.
Islander1
Sep 12th, 2020 - 10:34 pm - Link - Report abuse +4You can't expect answers from the idiot pc2020 (although I notice his English has suddenly got worse, again) as he, like a lot of his compatriots knows precious little about anything - I put it down to their appalling educational system.
He knows damn well that the FI don't cost the UK anything tax wise. He just wants to be offensive.
In future I shall just ignore his idiotic rantings.
diarrheag: Funny you talk about idioms when you are a hopeless monoglot like most of the british and british wannabes.
Sep 12th, 2020 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse -9Of course, both the useless benny hillbillies and the smelly llanitos are a burden for the british taxpayer.
Do you understand English, you diarrheag, or only Patois?
Then try with google translator and READ AND LEARN this artticle written by a real British, not a british wannabe like you.
Burro
https://gulfnews.com/opinion/op-eds/gibraltar-and-the-falklands-deny-the-logic-of-history-1.1221049
I am waiting for pc2020 to make a Freudian slip and write ... Engrish ...
Sep 12th, 2020 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse +3If the UK government were so benevolent as BorJo claims, the UK would send a paper handkerchief to wipe the tears to each and every Argentino who, in Argentina's dire state, cares about something so minor as who owns the British Falkland Islands - ie. all 460,000 of them. The remaining 42,000,000 Argentinos have enough to do staying alive in the country's decaying economy.
The current actions and Saber rattling by the Argentine is a re-run of 1982. When ever the government of the Argentine is in trouble and can't pay it's Debt it goes to War or gets into a boarder dispute with some one. Now they're doing both. It isn't like the People on the Falkland's just got there or that the Argentina's would put the land to good use...It's just a way of distracting the people in a time of trouble and a hope to get the fishing rights and oil rights that they can sell and steal the money.
Sep 12th, 2020 - 11:44 pm - Link - Report abuse +2.
Buenos Aires should read some of their own recent History...
pc2020
Sep 13th, 2020 - 12:58 am - Link - Report abuse +3Oh dear, losing it somewhat here 2020, suck it up boy, just like they taught you in La Campora.
See what I mean, you are getting upset enough just by Kelpers being here, and speaking.
And you are the only one here who needs Google Translate to speak English (never mind any form of Patios), although it is not everyone’s mother tongue or even first language.
Tonto (and I don’t mean as in Hi Ho Silver away, the lone ranger, I mean as in Fool (Spanish)).
Capish.
Mr. Kent taking note of this?
Sep 13th, 2020 - 10:09 am - Link - Report abuse -1This is reciprocating and reconciliation in the indoctrinated fascist Argentina's style. Every time it will be like this, no matter how nice you were to them yesterday!
Is this what they taught you in the Marxist ivory towers of Oxford and Cambridge? Perhaps the good old British Compromise?
To understand this you MUST understand indoctrination and its consequences.
If you CAN understand indoctrination you will understand many of our problems like Argentina and like Islam, it is the same thing, you can't negotiate with either because of the indoctrination has made the mental structures rigid and unchangeable and you debate with a wall, with a written constitution.
pc2020
Sep 13th, 2020 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0I said I would ignore you but just one more comment before boredom overcomes me.
It may surprise you (although 'think' knows full well) that I am not British nor a British wannabe nor a monoglot (I'll leave that to you).
imigh anois agus lig do na daoine fásta labhairt
by the way in English it is spelt 'diarrhoea' but then being Argentine (perhaps) you would know all about liquid faeces wouldn't you.
PC2020- So you base your Knowledge and Understanding- on a 7year old newspaper article written by One journalist in a well known left leaning newspaper !!!
Sep 13th, 2020 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Jesus- you are even thicker than I thought you were. You know - in order to understand where Argentina is coming from(or is trying to come from) I have read lots of historical articles printed in Argentina and talked to many hundreds of ordinary Argentines- as the only way to understand a dispute - is to understand the case of both sides - so them you can form a better judged opinion as to who is correct.
It might help you and some of your nuttier politicians if they tried the same.
Nest thing you will be claiming that the nasty Brits expelled all the people from Argentina from the islands in 1833!
TWIMC
Sep 13th, 2020 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse +11)- El Think regrets yet again the presence of the disputed Islas Falkland/Malvinas stand at the Prado Rural Show...
2) - If I remember correctly the Uruguayan authorities have..., in a couple of previous shows..., ask the British authorities to close down the offending stand..., what them Engrish did...
- I Think I remember a certain promess from one Engrish ambassadeur to the Yorugua authorities not to repeat such stunt...
Oh my..., oh my..., was he telling porkies to the Uruguayans...
3)- Nice promoting lasses in the above picture... Don't seem to recognize any of them...
- Is it maybe because of the masks..., or because they are Charrúas...?
Stink
Sep 13th, 2020 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Oh no, no, no you need to look at what it is the Uruguayans are telling you,
It won’t happen again, OK.
This Rural Show is probably a private enterprise. How could a foreign government (Argentina's) order another government (Uruguay's) to close down a stand at that show, just because they do not like some of the content in it? Is Uruguay in some way an Argentine puppet state?
Sep 13th, 2020 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Looks like you think wrong, Thunk. Uruguay is currently sticking 2 fingers up at Argentina's complaints and the islander were invited after all.
Sep 13th, 2020 - 11:04 pm - Link - Report abuse +3You should see social media. The Uruguays are really having a go at the Malvinistas. The word - Falkland - keeps appearing in Spanish text. Better than the TV
;-)
On the other hand, what stand (LOL) are these @ssholes talking about?
Sep 14th, 2020 - 04:09 pm - Link - Report abuse -6That is NOT a stand but a pair of cardboards, a poster and a pile of sh*te.
These isleteers and there idea of architecture.... MEIN GOTT!!!!
pc2020
Sep 14th, 2020 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse +3You really musn't let your envy of the Falkland Islanders get to you so.
Just calm down a little and you'll feel a lot better. There's a good boy.
“MEIN GOTT” is it, humm that explains a lot.
Sep 15th, 2020 - 12:04 am - Link - Report abuse +2Islander1, your comment although true, is unfair. Open up the Falklands to people from the UK to go and live. At present anyone from the UK can visit the Falklands, but not work without a permit that only lasts 4 years and may be withdrawn at any time. Without the ability for people from the British Isles to come and make a life for themselves without fear of being suddenly unemployed, therefore unable to make a life for themselves, there will always be issues with emigrants from the UK to the Falklands.
Sep 15th, 2020 - 12:15 am - Link - Report abuse +1What we need to do is incorporate the Falklands into sending it's own MP to Westminster to speak for the Islands. Remove the work permit requiring emigrants from the British Isles after say, 12 months. People want to be sure or be able to know what it's really like before committing a permanent move.
Please don't belittle the money spent on the defence of the Falklands. There's hardly a person in the UK who begrudge or resent it. A child born in the Falklands or Falkirk are just as British as each other.
Two and a half words:
Sep 15th, 2020 - 11:35 am - Link - Report abuse -2Honor-less worms.
Tri
Sep 15th, 2020 - 01:57 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Are you talking about Argentines? because you should know that they are rather touchy about being compared to worms because worms have to work for a living,
diarrheag is talking about working... LOL X 1 BILLION.
Sep 15th, 2020 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse -3You, dear creatures of the islets are known for being parasites, squatters, arrivistas and lazy asses.
The words work, job, study, profession, etc are OUT of your poor, poor vocabulary
pc2020
Sep 15th, 2020 - 03:17 pm - Link - Report abuse +2and you dear post coitus 2020 are well known for talking bolleaux but what can you expect from 'think'.
Pibito
Sep 15th, 2020 - 11:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If things are so shit in the “Islets”, tell me again why you thieving Creole, Conquistador Planter Bastards, are so desperate to “implant” yourselves there?
TiTMond
Wow man, like a – in the word(s), yeahhhh clever shitttttt dude, technical yeah. Impress ss ssive guy. Wow. Yeah, Dude. Shit!!!!!
Pugol-H
Sep 16th, 2020 - 05:54 pm - Link - Report abuse +1The whole continent supports Argentina,.... Wow, a wee overstatement.
Fact is, only Venezuela supports Argyland's ridiculous claim...not exactly the whole continent....as to Bolivia, I'm sure they have more important internal issues to think about.
Brazil doesn't really support Argentina's claim...it only pretends to....because it's the diplomatic way of saying f*ck off , and easier to deal with.
But as you say, his 'MEIN GOTT !!!! ' is indicative of something unsavory...perhaps a Nazi still hiding out in Argy Patagonia ?
Funny thing though, is that while many idiots like pc20 express their disdain for the Falkland's, they keep on whining because they can't have them.
Think they should sh*t or get off the pot.
Britain took by force islands it had never properly nor officially come to posses, because they were about a dispute it had never won nor resolved. They took them from a new claimant country which contrary to Britain was settled on the islands and had a political logic for their sovereign right to posses them. Britain saw the opportunity offered by that country not being able to defend itself, and that therefore it would be their last chance to grab these islands, now that their original rivals were no longer claiming them. Then it sent its own people to stand their ground with some bull shit lie about an oversees territory in order to keep the country it had expelled by force off the islands.
Sep 16th, 2020 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse -2That's all there is to it, so; as you can see there is no dispute or conflict. Just a narrative that explains what happened. But since the British recent being the robbing bullies and abusers of the story, they retaliate with guilt and scornful insolence, attacking Argentina itself with a hateful bigoted arrogance which all too transparently attempts to hide the fact that they're on the wrong, rather than calmly and confidently making their points with a sense of maturity and respect... which they can't because, they know they don't have any such points.
This is basically the reason why the British always react with hysterical defensive belittlement and insolence towards anyone who attempts to bring up any of their numerous territorial issues characterized by their usurping abuse of power and military bullying, which they all are.
Trimonde
Sep 16th, 2020 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0A dispute it had never won nor resolved. It was both won and resolved in 1982. In compliance with international law, and the approval of the UN.
What a peculiar guy...
Sep 16th, 2020 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse -3Sorry, but no. You just completely made that up.
Too much acid and weed in that head of yours I'm thinking.
Trimonde
Sep 16th, 2020 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Sorry, but no ... I'm thinking. The point is, you don't.
Who engaged in an act of illegal force?
Who lost that issue?
Who doesn't have to engage in dispute resolution?
Who is up the provable creek without a paddle?
There is no obligation in general international law to settle disputes.
Principles of Public International Law, third edition, 1979 by Ian Brownlie
Britain engaged in an act of illegal force, in 1833. It had no right to depose a country that claimed the islands without opposition in sound political, and geographical logic. Britain did not want to lose a military outpost, it never intended to colonize and incorporate the islands like Argentina had, until it needed to in order to fake legitimacy.
Sep 16th, 2020 - 08:08 pm - Link - Report abuse -2Who's talking about international law? I'm talking about being good and respectful human beings that know how to properly share this Earth, without resorting to guns and bullshit in order to grab stuff from others in the world. If you can't even have that discussion, what's the point of talking about any law?
Trimonde
Sep 16th, 2020 - 08:37 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Britain “engaged in an act of illegal force”, in 1833. They were in complete compliance with international law then.
General theory of law and state by Hans Kelsen
214 The Elements Of The State
Nevertheless, there occurs, according to international law, a territorial change, provided that the occupation, made with the intention of incorporating the occupied territory into the territory of the occupying State, assumes a permanent character, and that means that the legal order of the occupying State becomes efficacious for the territory in question. … Taking possession through military force of the territory of another State against the latter's will is possible, however, without any military resistance on the part of the victim. Provided that a unilateral act of force performed by one State against another is not considered to be war in itself (war being, according to traditional opinion, a contention between two or more States through their armed forces and hence at least a bilateral action) annexation is not only possible in time of war, but also in time of peace. The decisive point is that annexation, that is, taking possession of another State's territory with the intention to acquire it, constitutes acquisition of this territory even without the consent of the State to which the territory previously belonged, if the possession is firmly established. It makes no difference whether the annexation takes place after an occupatio bellica or not.
Don't be ridiculous! Britain had no jurisdiction over Malvinas, YOUR OWN COUNTRY HAS BOTH ADMITTED AND AVOIDED THAT MATTER. What international law involved both Argentina and Britain then ANYWAYS !? Stop shooting out of you ass already will ya???
Sep 16th, 2020 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse -2So Hans Kelsen law applies to Argentina taking possession of the islands then! WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU SAYING!?
Annexation in times of war? WE WERE NOT AT WAR YOU LYING CHEATS! You were faking being our friends in Buenos Aires, while robbing our land with the other hand! Plus your possession WAS NOT firmly established. Quite the opposite. Our possession however WAS.
You live in the world you want to be true, not the world that is. Yet another British sociopath! WHAT A SURPRISE !
TiTMonde
Sep 16th, 2020 - 10:16 pm - Link - Report abuse +3In 1833 the British recovered the Falklands after they were illegally invaded by the UP of the River Plate in 1832 and the diplomatic protests were ignored.
The UP garrison were evicted and the settlers allowed to stay, they had permission from the British to be there.
The British first raised their flag there in 1690, the first people to do so.
That is ”the uncomfortable truth” about history, for you.
Here:
https://falklandstimeline.files.wordpress.com/2020/03/falkland-wars-1700-1850-1.pdf
Go educate yourself a bit before you go taking on heavyweights like Tel.
Trimonde
Sep 16th, 2020 - 10:59 pm - Link - Report abuse +4My advice to you is to up your white ovals tablets to 200mg and your little pink round ones to 150mg. Don’t forget to avoid grapefruit and make sure you take them with food.
Then I‘d like you to do a little exercise in your journal. I want you to write down how you’re feeling this week and compare that to how you were the week before. Then I want you to write down the things you think that have changed to make you feel like this. What can you do to help you feel better?
We’ve talked about the Falklands lots of times before, and that is something that isn’t going to change. So what can you focus on to take your mind off it? Are you still socializing? Remember how much worse you feel when you lock yourself away from the world.
Up your meds, do your exercise, and come and see me again next week.
TiTMonde
Sep 18th, 2020 - 12:44 am - Link - Report abuse +2Ignore Joe above, he is just trying to make you feel better, he’s good like that.
STOP taking the tablets (prescription ones anyway)! They are what is F*cking your head up!!! Babylon System at work here!
They ARE out to get you, NO mistake, look out the window, see, see they are there and they are watching you.
Listen to the voices in your head, you know it makes sense.
Wrap your head in aluminium foil and stick it down the toilet, below the waterline, then they will not be able to “scanner” what you are thinking.
Some crap in the Bog will also help to diffract the signal, then they will not be able to read your thoughts, good luck.
Burble, Burble.
P.S. Have you ever considered being a Viz character? Would be most entertaining for the rest of us!
TiTMonde, he’s a complete TiT, whadya think, eh?
Pugol-H
Sep 18th, 2020 - 07:37 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Sound advice to the TitMonde...only one problem, is he smart enough to understand it ?
pc2020, the people in the Falklands are no burden on the British. They ARE our brothers and sisters, no burden in the family of the Commonwealth. The Falklands people can pick and chose as little or as much Britishness as they wish!
Sep 18th, 2020 - 10:25 pm - Link - Report abuse +1JB
Sep 19th, 2020 - 03:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Any luck he will drown in the attempt, you never know, worth a try anyway.
In 1833 the islands did not belong to Britain. It is just that simple. Anything that tries to deny that is propagandist educational brain washing through British sourced medias of communication. Clearly the British did not consider the islands significant enough to possess when they left Port Egmont after the battle with Spain and Buenos Aires over the islands. Leaving a plaque on the beach warning others that the islands belong to Britain means absolutely nothing real, and is nothing more than ridiculous imperialistic greed delusionally thinking it can pick and choose what to keep of our world, in the same spirit it has attacked usurped and robbed the peoples of India, of Africa, of the Middle East and the South Pacific. You's is a society that has been groomed sick to believe it has more rights to this world than others, and that war is fair game for taking things from other countries. Completely arrogant pedantic fascistic thinking logic, yet ultimately sociopathically ill minded.
Sep 19th, 2020 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse -1Tri
Sep 19th, 2020 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0Jealousy will get you nowhere - you are so green with envy that it twists your very soul.
Grow up, take some pills if you want but stop being such a fool.
Nobody cares about what happened 200-300 years ago. The only thing that matters is what the Falkland Islanders themselves desire today in the 21st century.
Nobody cares what Argentina thinks, yesterday, today or tomorrow - it is nothing to do with them what the FI want.
It seems to me that Argentina has no right to condemn or even criticise the British Empire unless Argentina prepared to realise that it to attacked, usurped and robbed the peoples of South America. The difference is, of course that the British Empire has been dissolved whereas the Argentine Empire is still in existence and desperately trying to enlarge itself in the South Atlantic and Antarctica at the expense of the FI and others.
You know ... I'm a bit of a psychology buff and I got to tell you, the continuous flow of identical and repetitive responses I get from specific cultures have taught me so much about their cultural mindset and reasoning, that I can only be humbly thankful for it.
Sep 19th, 2020 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One that comes up often is your jealousy as in - you are so green with envy and even more often Nobody cares what Argentina thinks, yesterday, today or tomorrow. The correlation with this depiction of YOUR cultural personality uncannily corroborates your country's history long record of rape, piracy usurpation, phony invitations to collaborate so as to insert your advantages in unsuspecting countries. Your deeply seeded evil as a nation, in other words.
I was not born in Argentina, nor do I live there, which gives me an invaluable audience seat perceptive through which I could not enjoy more watching how a country that has managed to fool the world of its virtuous, so lowly and pathetically looks for the wounded, the trusting, the needy and the weak to leach off like a scavenging greedy vulture, only motivated by those instances in which it notices others moving in on something, whatever that may be, trying to make sure they don't grab something valuable in every case they are able to be overpowered. Rats of the world. Jealous of that??? ... No sweetie, that is only what you need to believe in order to not face your own carcass of a wretched soulless and bloodless being.
TiTMonde (stinking murderous Kurepi)
Sep 20th, 2020 - 01:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0I'm a bit of a “psychology buff”.
Look out, step back people he’s quoting an “ology” now, careful it may be something “scientific” or was that “Scientologist”, never can remember.
Attempting paragraphs I see, very good, keep trying though not quite there yet.
“cultural mindset, you are so green with envy”:
Well yes the Falklands/Malvinas are ours, clearly upsets the S. American Planters.
“Nobody cares what Argentina thinks”:
Not strictly speaking true, Argys care obviously, it’s just we don’t.
“I was not born in Argentina, nor do I live there”:
But nonetheless still bitter and twisted I see.
“that is only what you need to believe in order to not face your own carcass of a wretched soulless and bloodless being”:
Prosecution rest Milord, the accused is clearly off his TiTs, and in need of removing from the general population.
Tri
Sep 20th, 2020 - 10:39 am - Link - Report abuse +1 The correlation with this depiction of YOUR cultural personality uncannily corroborates your country's history long record of rape, piracy usurpation, phony invitations to collaborate so as to insert your advantages in unsuspecting countries. Your deeply seeded evil as a nation, in other words..
Showing your ignorance again... I assume the above is levelled at the UK although it better fits Spain and Portugal. It will come as a great disappointment to you then for me to inform you (as everyone who reads these threads well knows) that I am not British nor American nor Spanish nor Portuguese nor Argentine (thank God)...
So I will follow your example and repeat myself:-
Jealousy will get you nowhere - you are so green with envy that it twists your very soul.
Grow up, take some pills if you want but stop being such a fool.
Nobody cares about what happened 200-300 years ago. The only thing that matters is what the Falkland Islanders themselves desire today in the 21st century.
Nobody cares what Argentina thinks, yesterday, today or tomorrow - it is nothing to do with them what the FI want.
It seems to me that Argentina has no right to condemn or even criticise the British Empire unless Argentina prepared to realise that it to attacked, usurped and robbed the peoples of South America. The difference is, of course that the British Empire has been dissolved whereas the Argentine Empire is still in existence and desperately trying to enlarge itself in the South Atlantic and Antarctica at the expense of the FI and others.
Do grow up there's a good boy.
Titmonde: You's is a society that has been groomed sick to believe it has more rights to this world than others, and that war is fair game for taking things from other countries. Completely arrogant pedantic fascistic thinking logic, yet ultimately sociopathically ill minded.
Sep 20th, 2020 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse +2One answer to that; 1982!
Pugol-H
Sep 20th, 2020 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In 1833 the islands did not belong to Britain....
Well, if you consider that in 1832 England did (own the Falkland's), and that after 6 weeks of occupation by an illegal Argy force in 1833 (as they were still a Spanish colony), England regained them, I think that what TiTMonde is trying to convey is that the Argies were under the impression that they were not Britain's for 6 weeks - in 1833.....only problem is he does not know how to explain it clearly.
And his I'm a bit of a “psychology buff”, says it all....no need to explain any further.....what he meant to say was 'pyschotic buffoon'.
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