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“If you want to be respected when visiting the Falklands, we must respect the Islanders”, Malvinas Families president

Saturday, October 10th 2020 - 09:20 UTC
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The recent approval by the Falklands' elected government of a framework guidance for assessing when a visitor should be considered a ‘prohibited person’, can be considered an effort to address disappointing past experiences and a long-standing debate in the Islands. Read full article

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  • Islander1

    Srta Fernanda Araujo - Very well said and total respect to you.

    Oct 10th, 2020 - 09:35 am - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Think

    To MercoPress..., Penguin News and TWIMC...

    - IF one wants to be respected ..., one DOES NOT FALSELY “QUOTE” A DOCTORED, WRONG TRANSLATION of what the other part declares..
    CAPISCE...?

    - María Fernanda Araujo DID NOT SAY...:
    ***“If you want to be respected when visiting the Falklands, we must respect the Islanders”***

    - What María Fernanda Araujo DID SAY was...:
    “Si queremos ser respetados cuando viajamos a las islas, sobre todo los familiares de los soldados cuyos restos yacen en el cementerio argentino de Darwin, entonces tenemos que respetar a los habitantes, a los isleños”.

    NOW..., IN ENGRISH..., for the monolinguals and them tergiversators...:
    ”If we want to be respected when traveling “TO THE ISLANDS”, specially us relatives of the soldiers whose remains lay at the Argentinean cemetery at Darwin, then we have to respect the inhabitants, the Islanders...”

    Anyhow...
    - Very well said and total respect to you...., María Fernanda Araujo...

    Oct 10th, 2020 - 12:47 pm - Link - Report abuse -6
  • Livingthedream

    With all due respect to the Falkland Islanders. That wouldn't fly in the United States. It's called freedom of speech. This differentiates us from Socialist Europe and backward South America.

    Oct 10th, 2020 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Think

    Howdy...

    Long time no see...

    Me dear American Dream WASP Boogaloo Wolverine Qanonian Proud Boy....
    How's things going in Michiganistan...? Bought som extra guns lately to defend “Democracy”

    Regards from this proud Olof Palme's kind of Scandinavian Social Democrat and backwards Patagonian Geezer..., El Think

    Oct 10th, 2020 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse -6
  • El Diego

    We are taking back those islands and the true owners will prevail. We do not accept foriegn imperialism.

    Oct 10th, 2020 - 01:50 pm - Link - Report abuse -12
  • Pugol-H

    Livingthedream
    We make the distinction between “freedom of speech” and freedom to offend/insult, hate speech.

    El Dago
    In your dreams this can happen, but only in your dreams.

    Oct 10th, 2020 - 02:03 pm - Link - Report abuse +6
  • Brasileiro

    They are not pirates. Ready!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMwg0aJIhy4&list=FLmXPTu1f8AdGlizWNiASx2A&index=7

    Oct 10th, 2020 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse -8
  • Think

    Ahhhhhhh..., El Diego...

    Long time no see..., either...

    You still your usual Anglo Turnip False Flag Agent Provocateur (with its usual spelling mistakes :-) throwing some bait to incite some faux righteous indignation from some other Anglo Turnips....

    It didn't take long this time...!
    Chuckle..., chuckle...

    Oct 10th, 2020 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Pugol-H

    Brasshole
    No, Pirates are at sea:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcU7NnuQSMc

    Oct 10th, 2020 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Brasileiro

    Pirates hunt prey. Old. Pirates feel no pity, love, hate or dignity. Pirates hunt for old prey. Falklands Islands!

    Frozen!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS088Opj9o0&list=FLmXPTu1f8AdGlizWNiASx2A&index=16

    Oct 10th, 2020 - 03:34 pm - Link - Report abuse -9
  • El Diego

    We take the islands back and this stop the problem. The Argentina flag must fly high on the islands and we allow islanders to live free life and speak spanish

    Oct 10th, 2020 - 03:50 pm - Link - Report abuse -10
  • Zaczac121

    I don’t understand, the people of the Falklands live a free life, their native language is English not Spanish... to say you want them to speak Spanish is imposing a culture on people who just want to live how they are now

    Oct 10th, 2020 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Think

    Ahhhhhhhhhh....

    Zaczac121..., the second Anglo today... (Taffy this time..., apparently)... to swallow the bait of “El Diego's” Anglo Turnip False Flag Agent Provocateur..., expressing his disbelief and faux righteous indignation against the Faux Argentinean...

    Capisce...?

    Oct 10th, 2020 - 04:17 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Zaczac121

    So you are saying El Diego is just one of those people to ignore? (much like you sometimes lol)

    I appreciate the idea of informing me of the twat but you don’t need to go out of your way for an “Anglo Turnip”, but tbh I prefer Anglo-Saxon

    Oct 10th, 2020 - 04:27 pm - Link - Report abuse +6
  • Think

    Sorry for that Zac... but I am a big fan of Baldrick...

    Anyhow... if you want to “Not Understand” a real Argie..., try with these ones of mine...:

    1) We will prevail and get back them Islands. We do not accept archaic Engrish Imperialism In our South Atlantic/Antarctic nick of the woods...
    - Or...:
    2) We get the Islands back and that stops the problem... The Argentinian flag wil fly on the Islands and them Islanders can continue to live their free life and speak whatever they fancy...

    Capisce...?

    Oct 10th, 2020 - 04:45 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Zaczac121

    I understand the Argie position... mostly, the government want to distract from its dire problems to get public support, I don’t fault it for the distraction, I fault it for the obvious warmongering.

    It’s my belief that every human has human rights, regardless of how they got to a land or what their ancestors crimes against other’s were, people must be able to live the life they wish (if it is legal that is lol).

    I don’t want people to be oppressed, that’s why I fight for freedom across the world (albeit in my home on a keyboard lol). I just want people to understand that now we live in the age of computers and the Internet, everyone transcends borders in communication, who owns what in terms of countries doesn’t matter anymore if people want to be in that nation.

    Oct 10th, 2020 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse +6
  • Terence Hill

    Livingthedream
    “This differentiates us from Socialist Europe ...” Wrong.
    “Shouting fire in a crowded theater” is a frequent paraphrasing of a quote from Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.'s opinion in the United States Supreme Court case Schenck v. United States in 1919. The quote is used to express the limits on free speech under the terms of the First Amendment of the United States Constitution.

    Oct 10th, 2020 - 05:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Mr. Zaczac121

    1) Comfortably numb..., but mostly wrong Engrish preconception about our Administrations using the Malvinas issue to deflect from internal problems... (Totally correct in 1982's Military Junta Argentina though...)
    Pls. Inform yourself...

    2) Agree completely with you about Human Rights...
    .... - But that doesn't give some 3,000 British citizens & settlers AND the pathetic remains of the once mighty Brutish Empire..., the right to claim sovereignity over some twentyfive million square kilometers (Yessss..., 25,000,000 km2) of South Atlantic and Antarctic territorry...
    (Nor to empty the South Atlantic of some fourhundred thousand 400,000 metric tonnes (Yesss..., 400,000 Tonnes) of fish YEARLY for the sole benefit of some 3,000 settlers...)

    3) Maybe you would care to answer a question I have asked many times in here but NEVER got even a shadow of an answer...:

    - If you Anglo Saxons from them British Isles sooooo much want and need a piece of Antarctica..., why don't you re-negotiate with your Anglo-Saxon Brothers from them Australian Isles or your Anglo Saxon Brothers from them New Zealand Isles..., to get some of your auld Antarctic territories back..., instead of coming to our nick of the woods with your cannon boats and your Engrish Crown Letters Patent and take what you fancy...?

    Oct 10th, 2020 - 05:34 pm - Link - Report abuse -9
  • El Diego

    Please, the people of Argentina want peace and good relation with our British friend. But, the islands must go back Argentina rule as historical ruler and owner of them. The people on the island must also speak the Spanish because this is the language in South of America. In Europe the British people they go to Spain and want to speak Engish but Spain not accept this and Argentina will not accept englihs language in Malvinas. The British people need speak more than the English and accept desitny of Malvinas and Malvinas people.

    Oct 10th, 2020 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse -7
  • Zaczac121

    @Think, Antarctica belongs to no one country... technically, claims on Antarctica are what they are, claims, used to guide scientific missions from the claiming country

    Oct 10th, 2020 - 06:06 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Think

    “Technically”..., yet another Anglo dodging the question olimpically...
    You better go back to “ Don't Understanding” El Diego...
    I Think you both will find it more gratifying...

    Have a nice life
    El Think...

    Oct 10th, 2020 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse -7
  • Zaczac121

    Apologies, I thought I had answered the question, legally by UN law no one owns Antarctica, territorial claims are only used for state-sponsored scientific missions and preservation programs, they are not just random “let’s draw on a map” sort of claim that you are claiming

    Oct 10th, 2020 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse +6
  • Think

    Horse manure...

    Oct 10th, 2020 - 06:54 pm - Link - Report abuse -8
  • Zaczac121

    I know you want to deny everything I say because I am an Anglo, but I am just trying to explain why, does anyone live in Antarctica permanently? No of course no one does! Claims on Antarctica are lines drawn on paper, nothing more, the Antarctic Treaty states the fact Antarctica is neutral land

    Oct 10th, 2020 - 06:58 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Think

    More horse manure and some self pitty on top of it...

    Just for the fun of it..., I will slightly re- phrase me above unanswered question...:

    - If you Anglo Saxons from them British Isles sooooo much want and need to CLAIM a piece of Antarctica..., why don't you talk with your Anglo-Saxon Brothers from them Australian Isles or your Anglo Saxon Brothers from them New Zealand Isles..., and CLAIM some of your auld Antarctic territories back..., instead of coming to Argentina's and Chile's nick of the woods with your cannon boats and your Engrish Crown Letters Patent and CLAIM what you fancy...?

    Capisce...?

    Oct 10th, 2020 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse -8
  • Zaczac121

    But we don’t want to claim more of Antarctica, what does claiming ice have to do with anything? Argentina and Chile claim parts of British Antarctica yes, but does Chile make a fuss? No, because it’s a non-issue

    Oct 10th, 2020 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse +7
  • Think

    How funny...
    From our Argentinean and Chilean point of wiev..., here..., deep down in the Southern Hemisphere..., some 700 miles from Antarctica..., we Dagos are under the impression that it is precisely the Northern Hemisphere British..., some 10,000 miles from Antarctica and their “British Antarctica Wet Dream” that still want to rule the waves as in the good old Victorian times...

    I must admit that your above expressed ignorance about those British ***“lines drawn on paper, nothing more” ..., did completelly flabergasted me...

    Boy...
    About 80% of the wars fought in the world since 1945 were caused by ***“lines drawn on paper, nothing more”*** ..., mostly drawn by the British...

    Tell me..., are you..., for example..., old enough to remember the Iran /Irak wars...?
    Are you..., for example..., old enough to remember the Gulf wars...?
    Both caused by some *“lines drawn on paper by British FCO public servants..., nothing more”*
    Drawn by the British to serve the People...
    Drawn by the British to serve the Good People...
    Drawn by the British to serve the Good British People...
    Drawn by the British to serve the Good British Petroleum People...


    **“lines drawn on paper, nothing more”***..., MY LEFT FOOT...
    Forse si cominci a capire...?

    Oct 10th, 2020 - 08:09 pm - Link - Report abuse -9
  • Zaczac121

    I have no support for warmongering, I was born in ‘99 during Tony Blair’s rule of Britain, I never supported the invasion of Iraq and still don’t, Freedom cannot be imposed from without, it must be created from within.

    Last war Britain fought to takeover land was in the Second Word War (To liberate territory from the nazis), I don’t care what my ancestors did, I never invaded a territory, so why should I accept responsibility for them.

    Returning to you “Good British Petroleum People” so Argentinian claims on Antarctica are purely scientific and not guided by the prospect of oil? What about Argentina kicking up a fuss because we just want to have the oil near the Falklands? You are literally preaching “One rule for thee, but another for me”

    Oct 10th, 2020 - 08:17 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Think

    Lad..

    In the hope that you one day decide to fill your British history educational gap before saying things like...:***“lines drawn on paper, nothing more”***....
    I remain yours...

    PS...:
    As a non completely dumb Dago once said...:
    ***“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it”***

    Capisce...?

    Oct 10th, 2020 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse -7
  • Zaczac121

    I read history a lot, but I do recognise I got one thing wrong, the Suez Canal Crisis was the last time we tried to land grab but the US put a stop to us and France quickly. Imperialism is not on the agenda anymore, and you keep saying the “Brutish Empire” as a vague insult but I can name three worse empires than Britain; Third Reich (It was by definition technically an empire), Belgium and Spain.

    Oct 10th, 2020 - 08:41 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Think

    Laddie...

    Why the urge of turning our amiable exchange into a competition about who has the longest..., biggest..., meanest one...?

    But...If that is what you want..., rest assure that..., as Empires go..., without the shadow of a doubt ..., the Brutish was..., by far..., the looongest..., the biiiiiggest..., and the meeeeanest one

    Happy now...?

    Oct 10th, 2020 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Zaczac121

    Longest, maybe, biggest, definitely, the meanest? Definitely not. Belgium killed 10 mil in the space of a few decades, same amount took about a century for Britain to do

    Oct 10th, 2020 - 10:00 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Think

    Geeeeeeee....

    A “Best before” date rule for the Brutish Imperial killing of Abbos..., Apes..., Boers..., Bogtrotters..., Brownies..., Ching Chongs..., Convicts... Coons..., Dagos..., Darkies..., Dune Coons..., Fritzes..., Frogs..., Futzzie Wutziess..., Gollywogs..., Gooks..., Huns..., Jocks..., Kaffirs..., Kebabs..., Mau Maus..., Micks..., Niggers...,Paddies..., Pakis..., Praireniggers..., Ragheads..., Redskins..., Sandniggers..., Sheep Shaggers..., Shylocks..., Taffies..., Teuchters..., Thicklips..., Towelheads..., Wogs..., Wops..., Yankee rebels..., Yids and many..., many more...

    A very convenient British imperial Rule..., I reckon...

    Oct 10th, 2020 - 11:09 pm - Link - Report abuse -9
  • Zaczac121

    Some of those don’t exist, And several others had empires of their own, Kaffirs are non-Muslims, so well done for that one, also nice racism with the N word, Gooks, Ching Chongs and Coons :ok_hand:

    Let’s not be racist here okay?

    Oct 10th, 2020 - 11:42 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Pugol-H

    Zaczac121
    “Let’s not be racist here okay?”

    You are talking to Stink, the Indian Murdering, Creole Planter Bastard, Squatting in Patagonia on land cleared of it native inhabitants by Stinking Murderous Kurepi.

    Who actually comes from Denmark, Noggin the F*ckin Nog no less.

    Next stop, the Malvinas.

    Stink
    “Kaffirs”, or did you mean “kaffers”, or did you just miss that one?

    Oct 11th, 2020 - 12:33 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Zaczac121

    Pugol, let’s try to be civilised, the murder spree his ancestors did is not his fault, like it wasn’t my fault my ancestors killed people in the past (I am working class Brit so I doubt my ancestors actually killed any foreigners).

    We can learn from history to not repeat it, it doesn’t mean we have to take it on to judge ourselves now

    Oct 11th, 2020 - 01:06 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Roger Lorton

    Does Chile make a fuss? They may be working up to one

    https://www.infogate.cl/2020/10/10/senador-pugh-dice-que-medialuna-reclamada-por-argentina-al-sur-del-punto-f-es-interpretar-incorrectamente-algo-que-costo-mucho/

    Oct 11th, 2020 - 02:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Guillote

    as far as I know there is only one educational system on the islands.
    a single journalistic medium.
    You cannot show a flag because you can go to prison or you will not be able to return.
    is there freedom of expression?
    If there is no freedom of expression, how can there be a referendum?
    can someone think differently?
    If someone thinks differently, what happens?
    para mi la libertad de expresion es el origen de las libertades de las personas sin eso no hay libertad

    Oct 11th, 2020 - 02:48 am - Link - Report abuse -7
  • Roger Lorton

    Gullible - the Islanders have freedom of expression. Foreigners, do not.

    Easy, ain't it ?

    Oct 11th, 2020 - 03:14 am - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Guillote

    for me freedom of expression is freedom of expression.
    for example
    If an islander shows an Argie flag, what happens?

    Oct 11th, 2020 - 03:36 am - Link - Report abuse -6
  • Roger Lorton

    Much the same as an Argie waving a Falklands flag, I suppose, Gullible. They'd be lucky if the police arrived in time.

    Oct 11th, 2020 - 05:59 am - Link - Report abuse +6
  • El Diego

    The British imperialists will pay for invading and occupying our country. We will not rest until justice prevails and our people are free from their imperial chains.

    Oct 11th, 2020 - 06:03 am - Link - Report abuse -6
  • Guillote

    I talk about freedom of expression
    if there is no freedom of expression in a cemetery.
    freedom of expression for me is the basis of a democracy.
    Because in Cuba there may be a referendum that will give 99% but it is a lie, the state does not allow them to think differently
    Can you think differently on the islands?
    And it's not a question for mediocre RL or clearly NI idiots
    my question is for the islanders.

    Oct 11th, 2020 - 06:29 am - Link - Report abuse -6
  • Think

    TWIMC...

    Funny how some of them haughty British Isles Anglos above get all confused when a foreigner uses their very own Proto-Germanic language racial slurs when trying to convey a point to them...

    Zaczac121..., for example..., tells me that ***“some of those don’t exist”***
    - He's probably right.......! Them Engrish exterminated them...!
    Zaczac continues telling me that...: ***And several others had empires “***
    - Yeahhh... Like the bloody Kaffir Zulu empire...,mowed down by the Engrish Swiss-Jock Martini Henry's against their autochthonous Isihlangus and Assegais...
    - To finish..., Zac expresses his repudiaton of a foreign utilizing such dirty Engrish slurs to graphicate a point...
    Funny indeed...

    - Then we have Anglo Turnip ”Pugol-H” that gets his knickers in a twist because of my (correct) spelling of the Engrish racial slur...: “Kaffir...
    That's how me Patagonian Boer neighbours spelled it...: ”Kaffir“...
    Geeee...., that good Afrikaansk people distrusted them ”Kaffirs” almost as much as they despised them Engrish...

    - To finish we got one of our regulars..., our Brummie ex-copper...: Mr. Roger Lorton...
    Always refreshing..., with his sincere..., open and haughty Engrish Jingoism...
    He does remind me of sweet auld Constable Savage...:
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BO8EpfyCG2Y

    Oct 11th, 2020 - 07:15 am - Link - Report abuse -8
  • Roger Lorton

    And I am regular, old 'un ....... even at my age ;-)

    Oct 11th, 2020 - 12:34 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Zaczac121

    Think, I just want a clean conversation, racial slurs don’t help anyone, in fact it hurts your own argument.

    And to Gulliote, Freedom of Expression is different to Freedom to Offend

    Oct 11th, 2020 - 02:22 pm - Link - Report abuse +8
  • El Diego

    Cuba Government provide best medical service for poor people in world. People are free from capitalismo and poverty

    Oct 11th, 2020 - 02:40 pm - Link - Report abuse -8
  • Judge Jose

    Can we stop all the nasty personal attacks, the title of this thread is about Argentine visitors showing respect to the 3.600 Falkland Islanders who live there, and quite rightly they should show respect for the laws of the country they are visiting.

    Oct 11th, 2020 - 04:40 pm - Link - Report abuse +6
  • Zaczac121

    Well said Jose, we shouldn’t devolve into petty attacks on eachother for our own views.

    Oct 11th, 2020 - 05:19 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Pugol-H

    Stink
    Kaffir, Arabic, meaning infidel or non-believer.

    Kaffer, Dutch/Afrikaans, derogatory term for a black person, notably a Bantu.

    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/kaffer#Noun

    Your Bloody Dutchman Rock neighbours didn’t pay attention at school.

    Oct 11th, 2020 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Zaczac121

    Let us cease this hostility, it gets the debate nowhere.

    Think, I know I cannot change your opinions and you can’t with mine, but let us both agree, lowering ourselves to shouting racial slurs as some sort of “gotcha” moment is not right.

    I don’t care what my country did in the past, sure some of it was bad, but not nearly as bad as others at the time (Britain abolished the slave trade while everyone else were perfectly fine).

    So please don’t respond in a condescending way to this message, it really hurts your own argument when you cannot understand the point others make.

    Oct 11th, 2020 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse +6
  • Pugol-H

    Zaczac121
    The problem with Stink is not what his forbears did to get that land, but that he wants to do the same again to the Falkland Islanders to get their land.

    Argentina has run out of S. America to steal from the Indians, so they thought they would have a go at stealing some British territory in the S. Atlantic, only to find out the hard way that unlike Atahualpa or Montezuma, the “English Pirates” have more than just sticks and stones with which to defend their territory.

    Oct 11th, 2020 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Think

    Zaczac121..., lad...

    It is YOU who are the complete and utterly brainwashed condescendent one here...

    - Condescending us by blabbing about how little you care about history and responsibilities...

    - Condescending us by blabbing about how much you care for Coming Peace..., Future Love..., Good Manners..., Global Sharing and that Brave New World of Internet of yours...

    Whilst at the very same time..., condescendingly telling us South Americans to *“Bugger Off”* because you fancy some 25,000,000 km2 of our South Atlantic and Antarctic territories for your bloody England...

    The best part of it all..., is that you are not even aware of your Engrish condescendence...


    As I wrote in another thread...:
    - ”I'm flabergasted by the Chutzpah of the “Proud Engrish Turnip Boys” in here..., defending to the last drop of (other people's) blood..., the indeclinable human rights of some 3,000 Malvinas/Falklands British squatters..., whilst at the same time quitely accepting..., if not applauding..., the creation of detention centers for thousands of Asylum Seekers in the South Atlantic and the plans of constructing some kind of wave generating contraption in La Manche to..., quite Brutishly..., sink thousands of migrants in their small boats...

    Capisce...?

    Oct 11th, 2020 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse -7
  • Zaczac121

    I haven’t been condescending you, I’ve stated clearly that I wanted freedom around the globe, letting the people on the Falklands decide their future is fundamental to it.

    Are you saying because they are British by ancestry that they cannot have a voice of their own? That they must be taken over by a country with a completely different way of life? Would you like it if the British, now, don’t give me bullshit about the empire, I am talking now, would you like it if the British government invaded your country and told you “You have to speak English and accept our way of life” of course you wouldn’t accept it, so why do the Falkland Islanders have to accept Argentina’s imperialism...?

    Oct 11th, 2020 - 07:13 pm - Link - Report abuse +7
  • Think

    Again..., boy...

    You are absolutely being condescending and now..., trying to put a lot of your Turnipy words in my mouth...

    Earlier in this thread..., I did make quite clear my position of respecting to the highest possible degree the way of life of the Kelpers ...

    - Since years I have made quite clear in here that I favour an “Åland Islands” type of solution to the Malvinas / Falklands dispute...

    Now..., besides of the usual ***“BUGGER OFF DAGO”***..., them 25,000,000 km2 are all British Overseas Territories because we say so.........., WHAT IS YOUR PROPOSAL...?

    Ps...:
    For your kind info...
    The British Crown did try to invade our Continental Territory three (3) times..., unsuccessfully...
    And that's NOT counting the invasion of the Malvi as Islans in 1833...
    Capisce...?

    Oct 11th, 2020 - 07:55 pm - Link - Report abuse -8
  • Zaczac121

    It was going so well, your ps ruined it, you mentioned the past and not the present.

    Is that all you people ever focus on? The past? If Argentina got the Falklands, what would happen? How would it make your life, and the lives of Argentinians as well as the Islander’s lives better? The only resources of true value are the fish and oil, and even then, oil prices are shit and fish doesn’t make that much.

    The purpose of life is to live to make yourself happy and better off, but I guess people who live in a country that has defaulted and rife with corruption don’t understand that getting control of a set of islands won’t make your problems go away.

    Oct 11th, 2020 - 08:30 pm - Link - Report abuse +6
  • Think

    Go figure

    NOT any kind of proposal then........, huhhhh...?

    Just a lot of useless condescending Brutish haughtiness and the usual ***“BUGGER OFF DAGO”***..., them 25,000,000 km2 are all British Overseas Territories because we say so....

    Why am I not surprised...?

    Oct 11th, 2020 - 08:38 pm - Link - Report abuse -9
  • Zaczac121

    Why do I need to propose a change to the status quo when the islanders don’t want it?

    I’m not a politician, I’m not going to say what could be done, but the people of the islands wish for the status quo.

    Forcing some sort of dual-sovereignty is not in the interests of the islanders, you say you want to respect their way of life but are refusing to respect their most simplistic wish: To choose their own destiny

    Just because the distance is great does not make them any less British, Calais is less than 20 miles from Dover, yet Calais is still French, not English. So why do you think because the islands are 200 miles from Argentina that it automatically must be Argentinian?

    People should have the freedom to choose, to be free from intimidation and fear. That is what it means to be free, Argentina should thank Britain, for it was Margaret Thatcher who gave Argentina democracy.

    I don’t want to go round in circles constantly, it’s always the same arguments time and time again on this website.

    Oct 11th, 2020 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse +7
  • Think

    Then bugger off..., lad...

    Oct 11th, 2020 - 08:53 pm - Link - Report abuse -9
  • Zaczac121

    I still don’t get your rudeness, I haven’t told you to bugger off at all, yet here you are, going around in circles with these constant arguments about how “REEEE MALVINAS BELONGS TO ARGENTINAAAAAA” or “BRUTISH EMPIRE IS WORST EMPIRE REEEEE”, do you understand how you come across? You come across imperialistic and colonial, as if your nation is entitled to the land it never formally held for more than 3 years

    Oct 11th, 2020 - 09:00 pm - Link - Report abuse +7
  • Think

    Pfffffffft....

    Oct 11th, 2020 - 09:41 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Pugol-H

    Zaczac121
    I did try to warn you.

    You are dealing with an incurable imperialist, of a type not see for a hundred years elsewhere.

    Oct 11th, 2020 - 10:18 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Roger Lorton

    Not your best day, Thunk........

    But then, the Falklands are still British, so not a bad day all in all ;-)

    Oct 12th, 2020 - 01:15 am - Link - Report abuse +6
  • Zaczac121

    If you start using racism to try to win your argument then you’ve already lost, I never once used a slur but Thunk decided to throw every one of them in the book at me for no reason other than to try and force me into a false “gotcha” moment, as if listing out racial slurs means anything other than pure ignorance to the fact they are incredibly offensive (coon in particular is very offensive and he used it three times in that post).

    Oct 12th, 2020 - 07:07 am - Link - Report abuse +7
  • Think

    Mr. Roger Lorton...

    Don't worry 'bout me..., Copper... Nice day here too...

    We “Non Brutish” are quite accustomed to them Engrish Farang ways...

    The boy above is just a perfect example of insincere haughty Engrish Phariseeism...

    As I 'ave told you before..., I much prefer your direct & sincere haughty Engrish Jingoism... ;-)

    Oct 12th, 2020 - 07:59 am - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Zaczac121

    Stop mentioning jingoism Think, no one in this thread has been jingoistic apart from you, Diego and Gulliote. Jingoism is extreme patriotism in the form of an aggressive or warlike foreign policy.

    And please, check your spelling, I am finding it really insulting for you to keep calling my culture Engrish or Brutish. I am British first and English second, I don’t care if you hate my culture, at least respect people enough to not insult them, in our eyes the Argentinians are brutes, trying to force their way of life on innocent people who just want to be left alone.

    Oct 12th, 2020 - 08:54 am - Link - Report abuse +7
  • Think

    Pfft...

    Oct 12th, 2020 - 10:30 am - Link - Report abuse -6
  • Zaczac121

    Is that all you can do? A pathetic attempt to laugh? You don’t help yourself when you do this Think.

    Oct 12th, 2020 - 10:49 am - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Think

    Pft..

    Oct 12th, 2020 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • El Diego

    The islands are Argentinian and the British fascists must leave. Please you need to fix your country problems with Brexit economic disaster. Argentina people do not want fascism in our lands.

    Oct 12th, 2020 - 01:03 pm - Link - Report abuse -7
  • Think

    The Islands are Argentinean and the Kelper settlers may stay. Please we need to fix our Cuntries problems with Debt & Brexit disasters. Most Argentina people do not want fascism in our land.

    Oct 12th, 2020 - 01:31 pm - Link - Report abuse -6
  • El Diego

    There is no moral basis for imperialism in 2020. It must be eradicated wherever it is found.

    Oct 12th, 2020 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse -6
  • Zaczac121

    Brexit isn’t an economic disaster lol.

    And right Diego, a freely elected government must be fascism because it wants the people to choose.

    Last time I checked Britain scores better of the Democracy index than Argentina by about 1.5, that may not sound like much, but the scale is out of 10 and Britain scores 8.52 and is known as a “Full Democracy” and not Argentina’s “Flawed Democracy”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index

    Oct 12th, 2020 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse +7
  • Think

    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...
    I can see them Brutish are in their Comfort Zone now...
    Debating with themselves...!
    Chuckle..., chuckle...

    Oct 12th, 2020 - 02:53 pm - Link - Report abuse -6
  • Judge Jose

    El Diego, you need to study the true history of the Falklands, Argentina has never owned the islands legally, only 2 illegal invasions, Britain settled the islands before Argentina existed ,Vernet asked London permission to go to the islands and that was given,only when Buenos A sent the military there did t Britain kick them out, the civilians were invited to stay, some did, some chose to leave,as for 1982 you should be grateful that Britain got rid of your evil military junta, France. and Spains historical records back the British claim,
    Argentina was never in the game, the 3,600 people that live there own the islands.

    Oct 12th, 2020 - 03:00 pm - Link - Report abuse +6
  • El Diego

    The imperialist invader is not democracy. Everybody know this. Is all about capitalismo and money with much corruption for rich politician people, aristocracy and queen family. is a disgrace to call UK democracy. UK pay EIC for lies and fake democracy

    Oct 12th, 2020 - 03:08 pm - Link - Report abuse -8
  • Zaczac121

    @think but why should you be the arbiter in determining which countries should own what, if you want a proposal, then how about this:

    Make the islands fully independent with no interference between the U.K. and Argentina

    Oct 12th, 2020 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Think

    TWIMC...
    I can see that Judge Jose has joined the Brutish self-gratification party...
    Chuckle..., chuckle...

    Oct 12th, 2020 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse -7
  • Judge Jose

    no Think, i look at facts, nice to have a non aggressive debate isnt it,

    Oct 12th, 2020 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse +7
  • Think

    Of course..., Judge Jose...

    Looking at “facts” and having a nice non aggressive “debate” about Argentina with an Engrish troll calling himself “El Diego”..., huhhhhh...?

    Do you also enjoy having nice non aggressive “debates” with those full size inflatable PVC dolls from China...?

    Oct 12th, 2020 - 03:59 pm - Link - Report abuse -7
  • El Diego

    I am from Argentina and please no insult me by call me english. I am not imperialist expat. Go home from my country imperialists

    Oct 12th, 2020 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse -7
  • Think

    Suuuure..., “El Diego”...

    We have tried this before..., remember...
    But..., of course..., you Engrish Turnip couldn't even pass the simplest of tests...
    Try to translate your very own words to more or less gramatically correct Spanish..., ok...?

    Here you are...:
    ***“ I am from Argentina and please no insult me by call me english. I am not imperialist expat. Go home from my country imperialists”***

    (Waiting for a good laught...)
    El Think...

    Oct 12th, 2020 - 05:03 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • El Diego

    is funny for you that argentine person no like imperio britanico? hahahahaha

    Oct 12th, 2020 - 05:04 pm - Link - Report abuse -6
  • Think

    Odd......

    The Engrish Turnip “El Diego”..., impersonaring an Argie Turnip called “El Diego” cannot communicate in Spanish...?!?

    He even hahaha's as an Anglo...!
    We Argies jajaja's...
    Jajaja...
    ;-)

    Oct 12th, 2020 - 05:14 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Zaczac121

    Go damn Think, you now sound German, is that the Nazi blood in you?

    I’m glad you call everyone turnips though, I agree Argies are turnips, but you keep misspelling English and British. :)

    Oct 12th, 2020 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Think

    Zaczac...

    I don't recall having called you “Turnip”...
    Would you please direct me to the place where I have...?

    It usually takes a lot make it into my “Lizt” of Turnips..., laddie...
    Like for example playing the Nazi card...... Achhhh, mein Gott...! Willkommen to my Lizt...,Turnip...
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_YMVPXmaKds

    Oct 12th, 2020 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse -6
  • Zaczac121

    ‘Twas only mentioning how you use “ja” a lot and the fact Argentina accepted fleeing nazis into their country after ww2:)

    Not saying you are a Nazi though, those kinds of people are more subtle

    Oct 12th, 2020 - 05:49 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • El Diego

    I have PhD - what you have? you have nothing my friend. I know imperialismo and capitalismo and people of malvinas not want this. they want fried wiht argentina

    Oct 12th, 2020 - 05:56 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Think

    TWIMC....

    Waiting for that faux Argentinean “El Diego's” next post so them Engrish Turnips can get some “Satisfaction” and I can see them embarrasing themselves...

    Oct 12th, 2020 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse -6
  • Zaczac121

    Usually people who major in philosophy have a good knack for English skills, clearly you are lacking in that department.

    Also sprinkling Spanish-isms doesn’t make you stand out, it shows you lack the vocabulary to say Capitalism and Imperialism.

    Also you keep making out that Capitalism is somehow bad, what do you propose...? Socialism? Pffft

    Oct 12th, 2020 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • El Diego

    we want scandinavian model of socialismo and Cuba medical system. This is for future of argentina and malvinas people. Imperio time is over my fired

    Oct 12th, 2020 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse -6
  • Zaczac121

    Scandinavia isn’t a country, but the countries in Scandinavia are not Socialist at all, they are Social Democrat

    Oct 12th, 2020 - 06:39 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • El Diego

    what you know about this? eh? nothing. You have PhD like me? You have study? Socialismo work good but not for imperio of unit kingdom but soon lose scotland and brext make big mess and soon lose malvinas. Maybe you move to Argentin and live in Casa Rosada? eh?

    Oct 12th, 2020 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse -6
  • Zaczac121

    Why would I want to move to Argentina... it defaulted on three of its loans and its economy isn’t improving. It’s like asking me to move to Venezuela, it’s a shithole

    Oct 12th, 2020 - 07:05 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • El Diego

    buenos aires is paris of americas. everybody know this and want live there
    i live venezuela and beautiful country
    unit kingdom is big mess wiht brexit and eveybody want leave or go to europe or come to argentine. same for malvinas people no want unit kingdom people on islands becaue drink too much and very rude people

    Oct 12th, 2020 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse -6
  • Zaczac121

    Hmmmm :thinking:

    Oct 12th, 2020 - 07:14 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • darragh

    Zacza121

    Haven't you realised? - El Diego is just another in a long list of 'thinks' sock puppets.

    You have to realise that he gets paid to come on to various sites to try and sow discord and enmity.

    I believe he is probably based in a Russian troll farm maybe in the St Petersburg area.

    He will now post some snidey comment about 'ignorant paddies' - but that's him all over just another useless troll.

    Oct 12th, 2020 - 10:51 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • imoyaro

    The fact is Gauchito Drink and his fellow stalker and “Torturer's Tango Duo Partner,” Kamerad/Komrade Rique are both Hard core National Socialists. That's been obvious for years now... ;)

    Oct 13th, 2020 - 01:02 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Think

    Geeeeeee.....
    You Anglos are too smart...

    A National Sozialist Communist proffessional sower of discord and enmity based in a Russian Troll Farm somewhere in the vicinity of beautiful Leningrad..., has obviously no chance whatsoever to fool you mighty brains about the World Paramount Islas Malvinas/Falkland Isssue with his uncountable sock-puppets...

    Even less than a frail..., old & humble Chubutean Patagonian Argentinean Citizen with a keen interest in his backyard's area politics and developments..., of unmingled Viking extraction..., whose Clan speciality..., since the 9th century has been the smashing of Engrishmen skulls..., the raping of their pretty Engrish Sheep..., the roasting of their ugly, fatty Engrishwomen and the redesigning (in world famous Scandinavian minimalistic design) of them boring Engrish Monotheistic Churches..., has...

    We are not worthy...!
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jjaqrPpdQYc

    Oct 13th, 2020 - 12:16 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • BrianFI

    People want to move to Argentina? no they don't. You are the nation of Viveza Criolla, where cheating and lying is part of your culture and society. To the point where the Viveza Criolla people ignored the Covid 19 lockdown and now Argentina is one of the worst affect Covid 19 countries in the world, completely unable to even bring its FIRST WAVE of Covid 19 under control. The Argie Peronists sacrificed whatever was left of the shattered economy to stop the spread of Covid 19, but the people of Viveza Criolla said “JAJAJA WE ARE ARGIES, WE DON'T NEED TO FOLLOW THE RULES JAJAJA REEEEE” so that sacrifice was in vain. Who on earth wants to move to this mess? The people who put the Peronists in power are already protesting against the Peronist government hahaha.

    Oct 13th, 2020 - 01:46 pm - Link - Report abuse +6
  • Zaczac121

    Argentina is about as appealing to move to as Venezuela or Mali is

    Oct 13th, 2020 - 03:09 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Think

    TWIMC...

    With Kelper Turnip Brian FI..., we have now a grand total of four (4) Anglo Turnips swallowing Anglo Turnip False Flag Agent Provocateur“El Diego's” bait..., showing thereby their immense ignorance of anything South American...

    Not a good thing..., when one pretends to comment about South American issues..., I reckon...
    https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inmigraci%C3%B3n_en_Argentina#La_radicaci%C3%B3n_de_inmigrantes_en_los_%C3%BAltimos_tiempos

    Chuckle..., chuckle...

    Oct 13th, 2020 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • El Diego

    Argentina no very good for capitalistas especuladores because we stop you stealing Argentina people money. This why you dont like? eh? how much money you have? eh? how much? we let you take nothing. this why malvinas people like life in argentine because we give good life for them but need learn spanish or go back to unit kingdom and argentina people take care of island

    Oct 13th, 2020 - 05:40 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Think

    Pls continue your good work..., “El Diego”...

    Oct 13th, 2020 - 05:45 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • El Diego

    Viva Malvinas Libre
    Fuera el Imperio

    Oct 13th, 2020 - 06:54 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Think

    More..., more...

    Oct 13th, 2020 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Zaczac121

    I do believe Think is having an orgasm

    Oct 13th, 2020 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Chicureo

    Zaczac121

    Comparing Argentina to Mali — is a bit brutal as certainly Mali is a far more civilized county.

    Let's keep this debate reasonable...

    Oct 13th, 2020 - 11:36 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Think

    Shicuréo...

    ***“Let's keep this debate reasonable...”***..., you said...

    Alright with me..., but you seem to have killed the joy of them Anglo Turnips...;-)))

    Anithing reasonable to say............................................................................................, hermanito...?

    Oct 15th, 2020 - 11:07 am - Link - Report abuse -3
  • El Diego

    Argentina 1rst world country with huge culture and high class people who do not need alcohol to socialise with other people like British acoholicos. British people need see pyschiatrist and come to Buenos Aires for treatment.

    Oct 15th, 2020 - 12:20 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • BrianFI

    1st world? More like 3rd world. When you look up “deadbeat” or “slum” in the dictionary it should have a picture of Argentina. You have no class, you are the people of Viveza Criolla, your culture is stealing, lying and blaming others for your mistakes. Alcohol? I doubt you could even afford the cheapest booze you slum rat.Treatment in Buenos Aires? Why? Who would want to go to that rotting carcass of a city and contract Covid 19?

    Oct 17th, 2020 - 05:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • El Diego

    How much have you drink tonight? you will have big hangover in morning

    Oct 17th, 2020 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • darragh

    El D

    “Tonight” - surely it's mid-afternoon in Argentina - mind you it's an awful lot later in St Petersburg eh 'Think'?

    Oct 18th, 2020 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Two out of three..., ain't that bad for our Paddy Turnip regular....!

    1) It was indeed mid-afternoon in Argentina when Anglo Turnip Troll “El Diego” posted his latest comment...

    2) You are very right in suspecting “El Diego” of being a non Argentinean based Turnip Troll...

    3) You got this sock origins wrong though..., mine (if I had any) would be Quality ones..., as “Severus Brummie Copper”...: Roger Lorton..., “Pinochetist Shilean Captain”...: Shicuréo“ or even ”Riduculously Paddy Ging“...: Darragh”...

    Regards from my “highly non-secret” Coviding den at the Italian Riviera..
    Capisce...?

    Oct 18th, 2020 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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