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Falklands and privateer/pirate captain David Jewett 1820 adventure

Tuesday, October 27th 2020 - 08:25 UTC
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In response to Argentina’s planned commemorations of the 200th anniversary of the visit to the Falklands by the privateer captain David Jewett in 1820 and his purported “taking of possession” of the Islands for Argentina, historian Graham Pascoe has released the paper ‘David Jewett’s visit to the Falklands, 1820-21: no valid “possession-taking.” Dr. Pascoe notes in his abstract that before David Jewett arrived he had captured a neutral Portuguese ship, and he captured another neutral US ship in the Islands. Read full article

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  • Roger Lorton

    200 years? Argentina did not exist in 1820. Not to the world. Unrecognised. Still a Spanish colony. Revolted. Revolting. First de facto recognition would only come in 1824 (USA & UK).

    Jewett claimed for a non-existent State (United Provinces of South America), and then, strangely, failed to tell Buenos Aires (there was no United provinces of the Rio de la Plata between 1820 & 1826 - no central government, no President).

    All in all - of no consequence.

    https://falklandstimeline.files.wordpress.com/2020/10/10-things-about-jewett.jpg

    Oct 27th, 2020 - 11:25 am - Link - Report abuse +6
  • Think

    Well....

    This is what happens when Anglos like Mr. Pascoe dishonestly claim to be “Historians”...

    Or when Anglo Coppers from the Blackest of Countries contradict the venerable Encyclopædia Britannica...
    https://www.britannica.com/place/Argentina/Colonial-centres#ref33071
    (Not even sure it ain't illegal for a former Engrish Public server to contradict the Britannica...;-)

    Capisce...?

    Oct 27th, 2020 - 01:03 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Scotsboy1

    @Think - you see this? There was never any legitimate claim to the Falklands by Argentina, ever!

    Oct 27th, 2020 - 01:04 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Dirk Dikkler

    Argentine Claim what Claim is that then !!! as “Roger”, would say “They were Never in the Game”.

    Oct 27th, 2020 - 03:33 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Fito Garcia

    What utter nonsense and more lies to undermine Argentina's rights to the islands. Truth must not be sacrificed for the lies of the right-wing fascist cabal to prevail and take control of our minds.

    Oct 27th, 2020 - 07:26 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Terence Hill

    The only pirates in the area were from “There is scarcely a Buenos Ayrean privateer which has not committed piracy of every description” John Quincy Adams July 20th, 1820. David Jewett, and Louis Vernet

    Oct 28th, 2020 - 02:37 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Roger Lorton

    In declining, I think (no, not you) the publishers' made a mistake.
    In not asking for a quid per download, I most certainly did.

    https://falklandstimeline.files.wordpress.com/2020/10/30k.jpg

    Oct 28th, 2020 - 07:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Good evening..., copper...

    - I did take note that you do not wish do dialogue with me....
    - I also took note that you AIN'T DENYING my above asseveration about your friend Mr. Pascoe degree deceit as an “ Historian”...

    As the linked UK academic counselling site puts it...:
    ***” Q: Is missing out on a job the worst that can happen? It’s not illegal to tell a white lie, is it?
    A: “Yes it is and can constitute a criminal offence under the Fraud Act 2006. There are well documented cases where people have even received prison sentences.”***
    https://graduatefog.co.uk/2010/1071/lying-cv-illegal-graduate-jobs/

    Surely a good Engrish Ex-Copper won't back no fraudsters..., would he...?

    Oct 28th, 2020 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Roger Lorton

    Thunk, Graham Pascoe has produced a very detailed book. He has considered the circumstances surrounding Jewett's supposed claim and come to a conclusion. A perspective. He argues it well. Does that make him a historian? I know not. As far as I am aware, he does not claim to be an historian, though others have given him that label as can be seen above. Some people claim that I am a 'copper'. No longer true. People claim many things - look at the Argie malvinistas. They claim rights to a territory that was British before Argentina was a twinkle in a colonial Spanish revolutionary's eye.

    Perhaps you should buy Pascoe's book?
    https://falklandshistory.com/

    Oct 28th, 2020 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Think

    In short, he ain't no “Historian”...
    Just a good..., loyal Engrisman...
    Member of the Falkland Islands Association Charity...

    Oct 28th, 2020 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • darragh

    Think

    “Not even sure it ain't illegal for a former English Public server to contradict the Britannica”

    Why would that be? after all Britannica has been an American publication for more than a 100 years and was by their own admission dumbed down for the North American market.

    I notice Fito Garcia's English has vastly improved eh 'Think'

    Oct 28th, 2020 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Fito Garcia

    Latin America must unite and expel British companies from their territories until the islands are returned to the rightful owner, Argentina. Hurt the British where they like it least, in there pockets especially now as the right-wing cabal's Brexit self-destruction is starting at the end of the year. Lets nudge them along to their destiny of the insignificant little islands they really are. World power? hahahahah - what a joke. Trumps poodle? Yes, very much so.

    Oct 28th, 2020 - 05:43 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Judge Jose

    Fito Garcia ,South America is sick to death of Argentina constant moaning, you clearly have hatred for anything British. or of British origin.

    Oct 28th, 2020 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Chicureo

    Señor Fito Garcia and I agree that all invaders of the Mapuche east Pategonia need to be exiled preferably back to Palermo!

    By the way, being Trump's poodle could be very lucrative as he's going to win the Re-election!

    Oct 28th, 2020 - 08:32 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Fito Garcia

    Well, the UK will surely need financial support once the fascist Brexit economic suicide commences in January. Goodbye UK. Soon you will be asking Argentina for financial support and we promise to stop your trade deals in Latin America

    Oct 29th, 2020 - 07:09 am - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Chicureo

    Amazing how fascists voted TWO times to regain national independence from globalist Eurocrats...

    ...it's also thrilling to learn that Argentina has enormous financial reserves...

    Who wants to trade with those pirates anyway?

    It will be interesting to see how the new trade agreement develops as Trump and Johnson negotiates in 2021...

    Oct 29th, 2020 - 06:05 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Fito Garcia

    er you mean Biden? He cant stand Johnson so the poodle will be alone again in the world. A basket case country if ever there was one.

    Oct 29th, 2020 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • darragh

    Fito Garcia

    And you would know all about basket case countries wouldn't you. You've mentioned Cuba, Venezuala and Argentina on other threads and your admiration for them - well they are definitely basket case countries who couldn't run a brew up in a pissery between them

    By the way I know your name from somewhere - aren't you a Cuban??

    Oct 29th, 2020 - 11:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Chicureo

    Señor Garcia

    No, I mean the serving President until January 2025...

    I'm perfectly happy that you and THINK are classifying as Argentines...

    Oct 30th, 2020 - 01:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Fito Garcia

    I am a produ Cuban/Angolan/Argentine

    Nov 05th, 2020 - 05:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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