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Argentina objects the “unilateral” demining of the Falkland Islands
As anticipated, the Argentine government objected to the mines' clearance effort announced by the United Kingdom in Geneva for having been addressed “unilaterally in Argentine territory illegitimately occupied” and in violation of UN Resolution 3149 which calls on both sides to abstain from any unilateral action in the disputed territories. Read full article
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Nov 19th, 2020 - 09:17 am - Link - Report abuse +14What will be the next stunt by the Argentine government? Demand compensation for the destruction of the mines (as property of the Argentine state)? Is this the first time a country in peacetime objects a demining project?
Global laughing stock.
Nov 19th, 2020 - 09:25 am - Link - Report abuse +11You can just imagine them Stamping there foot on the ground Screaming its Not Fair !! Too Childish !
Nov 19th, 2020 - 09:32 am - Link - Report abuse +10Priceless. This perfectly illustrates the level of stupidity in a Peronist government in a way the entire world can understand.
Nov 19th, 2020 - 09:58 am - Link - Report abuse +12One could easily get the impression that the members of the Argentine government aren't human.
Nov 19th, 2020 - 10:27 am - Link - Report abuse +7“UN Resolution 3149” was a political compromise that doesn't override international law. To wit, “There is no obligation in general international law to settle disputes”.
Nov 19th, 2020 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse +5Principles of Public International Law, third edition, 1979 by Ian Brownlie
Dear complete and utterly idiotic -childish and mentally retarded Argentine politicians and related civil servants:
Nov 19th, 2020 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse +14So WHY did you plant them on what you claim is your national land in the first place?
Thankfully some of your Army Engineers are and were professionals and worked with the British forces after the surrender to ensure all minefields located and mapped as good as possible.
I sympathise with the majority of Argentine citizens who must be feeling very embarrassed at their Govt,s antics and childish squealing!
Narnia in its purest form. The whole world laughs behind their backs only the Narnians are too stupid to realise their folly.
Nov 19th, 2020 - 11:22 am - Link - Report abuse +6I feel that one of former french president Jacques Chirac's more notorious quotes would fit this situation quite well:
Nov 19th, 2020 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse +10“They have missed a great opportunity to keep their mouths shut”.
There's not much I can add to the comments above other than to quote my old Granny - “You can't argue with stupid”.
Nov 19th, 2020 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse +4There are times like this that I'm so thankful that I was born on the western side of the Andes. They have great sirloin steaks and the most sensuous national dance — but inherently they are all mentally insane.
Nov 19th, 2020 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse +6Although a likeable people — you cannot trust them! They'll steal from you the moment you look away and they never will pay their debts.
A century ago they were the 5th wealthiest country in the world — yet today they blame their problems on everyone else. They indeed are their own worst enemies!
Dirk Dikkler Are you sure that the Argentinian Government is not comprised of little Donald Trumps? The reactions seem so similar.
Nov 19th, 2020 - 12:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Islander1 As you said ”Thankfully some of your(Argentinian) Army Engineers are and were professionals and worked with the British forces after the surrender to ensure all minefields located and mapped as good as possible.” this makes the action a joint operation. As you know you need people to do the paperwork and others to do the actual demining.
Chicureo: Beautifully put! Chile has its problems, but at least one of them isn’t a government that appears to have taken leave of its senses and made itself the object of worldwide derision.
Nov 19th, 2020 - 01:57 pm - Link - Report abuse +4Surely the wise people of the world sees the mess the Argentine state is in. They are always trying to capitalize on the imagination of their daft leaders.
Nov 19th, 2020 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse +4Who in their right mind would complain about anyone removing the mines. We islanders think this is so hilarious.
Islander1...
Nov 19th, 2020 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse -101) First of all..., congratulations with your new minefield free reality...
- It was high time...
2) I Think..., the Argie Armed Farces did plant mines during the Malvinas conflict on what we claim is our national land for the VERY SAME REASON the British Armed Farces did plant mines during the WW2 conflict on what was and is your national land...
Capisce...?
3) Thanks for sympathising with the majority of Argentinean citizens who surely feel quite OK with the fact that our government is protesting at the UN against the unilateral UK breach of the accords under the sovereignty formula of October. 11 of 2001 and August. 3 of 2006..., that created the feasibility study on the joint removal of the anti personnel mines in them Islands...
- Breaching..., at the same time..., UN Resolution 3149 which calls on both sides to abstain from any unilateral action in the disputed territories....
Next step..., Vigo and Marin..., chay...
Have a pleasant day...
El Think...
Check the dead fish expression on the Argentine ambassadors face, he was the most uncomfortable and embarrassed man in the room.
Nov 19th, 2020 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse +5Argentina. The land of whine!
Timlander1...
Nov 19th, 2020 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse -6- Remember..., you don't need to take me Argie word for me point ”3)” on me comment above...
- Your own Aidan Liddle..., UK Permanent Representative to the Conference on Disarmament said the following under agenda item 9(b)...:
***” While the Convention entered into force for the UK in 1999, clearance operations in the Falkland Islands could not begin until we had determined the scale and complexities of the task ahead. This commenced with a SIX-YEAR JOINT FEASIBILITY STUDY WITH ARGENTINA, completed in 2007...
This comprehensive study allowed us to fully appreciate the environmental..., technical and logistical constraints we would be up against. This included considering the most effective methods to access mines in challenging locations such as in very remote areas, buried under 10-metre high sand dunes or in swampy peat...., etc..., etc..., etc...
Capisce...?
“as anticipated”? lol ... Can't help yourself MercoPress, can you?
Nov 19th, 2020 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse -9Just like mardy kids, grow up Argentine ,
Nov 19th, 2020 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse +6It is only too obvious that Shrinkbrain also think it is better to stick to 19 abnd 14 years old accords and wait a century or two for Argentina to borrow enough money to partake in the action, so a number of people can get killed or mutilated by Argentine mines, than to finance the projekt and DO SOMETHING.
Nov 19th, 2020 - 05:20 pm - Link - Report abuse +4Think,
Nov 19th, 2020 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse +4you continue to surprise and confound me ! On the one hand you come across as a well informed, articulate and intelligent commentator. On the other hand you repeatedly seek to defend the actions of your country's leaders when their behaviour defies comprehension . How on earth does it benefit Argentina to make childish and petulant objections to clearing mines? The rest of the world shakes its head in puzzlement. Would your government like the mines to be replaced so that they could then be “invited” to participate in clearing them ? Are there really no other pressing issues in your country that merit closer attention from your government ? Does it ever occur to your government that a constructive and friendly approach to the whole question of the relationship between Argentina and the Islands might bring greater benefit to both parties? Mindless bleatings about removing “our” mines simply serve to harden feelings on both sides.
Mr. border rover...
Nov 19th, 2020 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse -7- I Think the “comprehension” defied by the actions of my Country's leaders in the current issue is your Engrish “comprehension” ...
- It is quite logical and evident that..., from my Argie point of “comprehension”... things look “comprehensibly” different... don't you Think...?
I will try to answer your points in the order you mention them..., ok...? ...:
1) Argentina does NOT object to the clearing of mines... Argentina objects to the UK breach of the Joint Agreement for the Clearing of Mines we had until 2007 when the UK told us to “Bugger Off”...
- Furthermore..., Argentina does NOT object to the clearing of mines... Argentina objects (at the UN) to the UK breach of UN Resolution 3149 which calls on both sides to abstain from any unilateral action in the disputed territories...
2) Obviously..., my government DOES NOT WISH...:***“The mines to be replaced so that it could then be “invited” to participate in clearing them”***...
Try not to be ***“Childish and Petulant”***...
Ok...?
3) It works both ways..., ya know...?...:
- Are there really no other pressing issues in your Kingdom that merit closer attention from your government...? Does it ever occur to your Crown that a constructive approach to the whole question of the Engrish Colonial Remnant of the Malvinas Isles might bring greater benefit to all parties...?
Capisce...?
You poor sad old twit. There are times to keep your mouth shut (or your keyboard silent). This is one.
Nov 19th, 2020 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse +7Honourable Mike Summers...
Nov 19th, 2020 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse -81) First of all..., congratulations with your new minefield free reality...
- It was high time...
2) You rich happy silverfox twit... If you want me keybord silenced you can just Whatsapp Gus in Montevideo..., can't you....
I support freedom of speech and freedom of conscience. Shutting people down is not a supportable strategy. Encouraging people to think rationally is a better strategy.
Nov 19th, 2020 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse +5”3) It works both ways..., ya know...?...:
Nov 19th, 2020 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0- Are there really no other pressing issues in your Kingdom that merit closer attention from your government...? Does it ever occur to your Crown that a constructive approach to the whole question of the Engrish Colonial Remnant of the Malvinas Isles might bring greater benefit to all parties...?”
More pressing than clearing the mines? Granted they weren't the highest priority minefields on a worldwide level, but it was a treaty obligation for the UK government. And 'Argentina' and 'constructive' don't really belong in the same sentence, do they?
Honourable Mike Summers...
Nov 19th, 2020 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse -7If you (as you wrote in your last comment)...:
***“ Support freedom of speech and freedom of conscience. Shutting people down is not a supportable strategy.”***.......
Why did you in your first comment tell me that...:
- ***”There are times to keep your mouth shut (or your keyboard silent). This is one.”***...?
- I know you are a politician but..., there must be kind of a minimum time frame for your flip-flopping.........
It was a good idea to keep Argentines off of your land and clear those mines yourself.
Nov 20th, 2020 - 03:27 am - Link - Report abuse +4Their propaganda would have been even more disgusting if they had been invited to collaborate.
3149 Thunk? As long-dead as 2065. There have been no UN Resolutions since 1988. The matter was resolved in 1989. Nothing to, err ... resolve.
Nov 20th, 2020 - 06:06 am - Link - Report abuse +7Yet again, the world laughs - at Argentina.
That was advice Grandpop, not an instruction. Brighten up.
Nov 20th, 2020 - 06:33 am - Link - Report abuse +5Geeeeeeeeeeeeeee....
Nov 20th, 2020 - 07:46 am - Link - Report abuse -7Roger and Mike “advicing” auld little me almost simultaniously...
Las Islas Malvinas “Rudy Giuliani's” Advisory Dream Time best pitchers... :-)))
As they say... Take it easy, greasys... We've got a long way to slide...
Next Stop..., EU's Galicia...
Capisce...?
Ah, a certain someone does not understand free speech. Getting comments deleted would be interfering with free speech. Telling Think to shut it is merely Mike exercising his own right to free speech.
Nov 20th, 2020 - 09:00 am - Link - Report abuse +4By the way..., honourable Mike Summers...
Nov 20th, 2020 - 10:52 am - Link - Report abuse -5- Besides your above demonstrated lightning fast mastery of the noble political art of flip-flopping...
Do you always start your “Advices” to visitors or members of your constituency with the ***“You poor sad old twit.”*** tag line...?
Chuckle..., chuckle
They complain so much about “unilateral actions” and talk about “UN Resolution 3149 which calls on both sides to abstain from any unilateral action in the disputed territories”. But all their new laws and regulation regarding “The Malvinas” etc are they not also “unilateral actions in the disputed territories”, even if they are not enforceable tin the territories in question?
Nov 20th, 2020 - 10:58 am - Link - Report abuse +4Think- There was indeed joint study and co-operation as to where the mines were and types and thus how to tackle.
Nov 20th, 2020 - 11:28 am - Link - Report abuse +4But there was absolutely NO way Argentina could have taken part in the Clearing:
1 - Its a Geneva rule that says each Country is responsible for clearing the mines on its land and wether you like it or not the accepted international fact is that the Islands are current British Territory , and thus British Territory. Yes there is a claim- one does not dispute that- but the defacto internationally accepted Government of the day is British..
And no Argentine demining personnel would have been permitted to come here by the local people.. We know - as it has happened several times - your press would have soon been over distorting and twisting.
Timlander1...
Nov 20th, 2020 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse -5Firstly.., I do much appreciate your todays tone then your yesterdays one...
Secondly... it may have been “Implicit” for you Kelpers from the beginning..., but there was NO MENTION WHATSOEVER in all the 2001/2006 written agreements between the UK and Argentina of any impediment for the participation of Argentinean personnel in the demining process...
Therefore the current..., for the UN record..., Argentinean protest...
Thirdly..., there is indeed an Ottawa rule that says that each Country is responsible for clearing the mines on its controlled territory...
- However..., there is no rule that says that the controlling Nation can't engage third parties..., even the former enemy in the demining process...
That is exactly what the UK did between 2001 and 2006 by including Argentina in the Joint Demining Effort of the Malvinas /Falklands...
Until 2007 that is..., when the UK suddenly told us to “BUGGER OFF”...
Therefore the current..., for the UN record..., Argentinean protest...
Capisce...?
To be honest I prefer the Zimbabwean deminers
Nov 20th, 2020 - 01:51 pm - Link - Report abuse +4Of course you do like the Rodhesians better..., Zaczac121...
Nov 20th, 2020 - 01:57 pm - Link - Report abuse -6After all..., you Brutish Bunch did f*ck them for almost hundred years...
Islander1
Nov 20th, 2020 - 02:03 pm - Link - Report abuse +1That's interesting. Do you know what actually happened in 2007 that meant Argentina took no further part in the process? Or is Think making it all up?
@Think
Nov 20th, 2020 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse +2You call me Brutish, but I’m not the one calling Zimbabwe by it’s colonial name that hasn’t been used for over 40 years (I am only 20, it was always Zimbabwe for me)
DT
Nov 20th, 2020 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse +32007 - wasn't that when Argentina had a hissy and decided to walk away from the 1995 agreement just a few days (co-incidentally?) before the 25th Anniversary of the war.?
@Think
Nov 20th, 2020 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse +1I forgot to say, stop calling us brutes. I am working class and my ancestors before me were too, we had little say in colonialism, we all were too busy trying to live, maybe if you showed respect to people here in these comment sections they would respect you back, calling us names is just making people hate you more bruh
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