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Argentina objects the “unilateral” demining of the Falkland Islands

Thursday, November 19th 2020 - 09:36 UTC
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As anticipated, the Argentine government objected to the mines' clearance effort announced by the United Kingdom in Geneva for having been addressed “unilaterally in Argentine territory illegitimately occupied” and in violation of UN Resolution 3149 which calls on both sides to abstain from any unilateral action in the disputed territories. Read full article

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  • Swede

    OMG!
    What will be the next stunt by the Argentine government? Demand compensation for the destruction of the mines (as property of the Argentine state)? Is this the first time a country in peacetime objects a demining project?

    Nov 19th, 2020 - 09:17 am - Link - Report abuse +14
  • FitzRoy

    Global laughing stock.

    Nov 19th, 2020 - 09:25 am - Link - Report abuse +11
  • Dirk Dikkler

    You can just imagine them Stamping there foot on the ground Screaming its Not Fair !! Too Childish !

    Nov 19th, 2020 - 09:32 am - Link - Report abuse +10
  • Lord Loon

    Priceless. This perfectly illustrates the level of stupidity in a Peronist government in a way the entire world can understand.

    Nov 19th, 2020 - 09:58 am - Link - Report abuse +12
  • Don Alberto

    One could easily get the impression that the members of the Argentine government aren't human.

    Nov 19th, 2020 - 10:27 am - Link - Report abuse +7
  • Terence Hill

    “UN Resolution 3149” was a political compromise that doesn't override international law. To wit, “There is no obligation in general international law to settle disputes”.
    Principles of Public International Law, third edition, 1979 by Ian Brownlie

    Nov 19th, 2020 - 10:43 am - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Islander1

    Dear complete and utterly idiotic -childish and mentally retarded Argentine politicians and related civil servants:
    So WHY did you plant them on what you claim is your national land in the first place?

    Thankfully some of your Army Engineers are and were professionals and worked with the British forces after the surrender to ensure all minefields located and mapped as good as possible.

    I sympathise with the majority of Argentine citizens who must be feeling very embarrassed at their Govt,s antics and childish squealing!

    Nov 19th, 2020 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse +14
  • Brit Bob

    Narnia in its purest form. The whole world laughs behind their backs only the Narnians are too stupid to realise their folly.

    Nov 19th, 2020 - 11:22 am - Link - Report abuse +6
  • Chris01

    I feel that one of former french president Jacques Chirac's more notorious quotes would fit this situation quite well:

    “They have missed a great opportunity to keep their mouths shut”.

    Nov 19th, 2020 - 11:42 am - Link - Report abuse +10
  • darragh

    There's not much I can add to the comments above other than to quote my old Granny - “You can't argue with stupid”.

    Nov 19th, 2020 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Chicureo

    There are times like this that I'm so thankful that I was born on the western side of the Andes. They have great sirloin steaks and the most sensuous national dance — but inherently they are all mentally insane.

    Although a likeable people — you cannot trust them! They'll steal from you the moment you look away and they never will pay their debts.

    A century ago they were the 5th wealthiest country in the world — yet today they blame their problems on everyone else. They indeed are their own worst enemies!

    Nov 19th, 2020 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse +6
  • MarkWhelan

    Dirk Dikkler Are you sure that the Argentinian Government is not comprised of little Donald Trumps? The reactions seem so similar.
    Islander1 As you said ”Thankfully some of your(Argentinian) Army Engineers are and were professionals and worked with the British forces after the surrender to ensure all minefields located and mapped as good as possible.” this makes the action a joint operation. As you know you need people to do the paperwork and others to do the actual demining.

    Nov 19th, 2020 - 12:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Felipe Ordóñez de Rivera

    Chicureo: Beautifully put! Chile has its problems, but at least one of them isn’t a government that appears to have taken leave of its senses and made itself the object of worldwide derision.

    Nov 19th, 2020 - 01:57 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • kelperabout

    Surely the wise people of the world sees the mess the Argentine state is in. They are always trying to capitalize on the imagination of their daft leaders.
    Who in their right mind would complain about anyone removing the mines. We islanders think this is so hilarious.

    Nov 19th, 2020 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Think

    Islander1...

    1) First of all..., congratulations with your new minefield free reality...
    - It was high time...

    2) I Think..., the Argie Armed Farces did plant mines during the Malvinas conflict on what we claim is our national land for the VERY SAME REASON the British Armed Farces did plant mines during the WW2 conflict on what was and is your national land...
    Capisce...?

    3) Thanks for sympathising with the majority of Argentinean citizens who surely feel quite OK with the fact that our government is protesting at the UN against the unilateral UK breach of the accords under the sovereignty formula of October. 11 of 2001 and August. 3 of 2006..., that created the feasibility study on the joint removal of the anti personnel mines in them Islands...
    - Breaching..., at the same time..., UN Resolution 3149 which calls on both sides to abstain from any unilateral action in the disputed territories....

    Next step..., Vigo and Marin..., chay...
    Have a pleasant day...
    El Think...

    Nov 19th, 2020 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse -10
  • downunder

    Check the dead fish expression on the Argentine ambassadors face, he was the most uncomfortable and embarrassed man in the room.

    Argentina. The land of whine!

    Nov 19th, 2020 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Think

    Timlander1...

    - Remember..., you don't need to take me Argie word for me point ”3)” on me comment above...

    - Your own Aidan Liddle..., UK Permanent Representative to the Conference on Disarmament said the following under agenda item 9(b)...:

    ***” While the Convention entered into force for the UK in 1999, clearance operations in the Falkland Islands could not begin until we had determined the scale and complexities of the task ahead. This commenced with a SIX-YEAR JOINT FEASIBILITY STUDY WITH ARGENTINA, completed in 2007...
    This comprehensive study allowed us to fully appreciate the environmental..., technical and logistical constraints we would be up against. This included considering the most effective methods to access mines in challenging locations such as in very remote areas, buried under 10-metre high sand dunes or in swampy peat...., etc..., etc..., etc...

    Capisce...?

    Nov 19th, 2020 - 03:49 pm - Link - Report abuse -6
  • Trimonde

    “as anticipated”? lol ... Can't help yourself MercoPress, can you?

    Nov 19th, 2020 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse -9
  • Judge Jose

    Just like mardy kids, grow up Argentine ,

    Nov 19th, 2020 - 04:54 pm - Link - Report abuse +6
  • Don Alberto

    It is only too obvious that Shrinkbrain also think it is better to stick to 19 abnd 14 years old accords and wait a century or two for Argentina to borrow enough money to partake in the action, so a number of people can get killed or mutilated by Argentine mines, than to finance the projekt and DO SOMETHING.

    Nov 19th, 2020 - 05:20 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • border rover

    Think,
    you continue to surprise and confound me ! On the one hand you come across as a well informed, articulate and intelligent commentator. On the other hand you repeatedly seek to defend the actions of your country's leaders when their behaviour defies comprehension . How on earth does it benefit Argentina to make childish and petulant objections to clearing mines? The rest of the world shakes its head in puzzlement. Would your government like the mines to be replaced so that they could then be “invited” to participate in clearing them ? Are there really no other pressing issues in your country that merit closer attention from your government ? Does it ever occur to your government that a constructive and friendly approach to the whole question of the relationship between Argentina and the Islands might bring greater benefit to both parties? Mindless bleatings about removing “our” mines simply serve to harden feelings on both sides.

    Nov 19th, 2020 - 05:29 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Think

    Mr. border rover...

    - I Think the “comprehension” defied by the actions of my Country's leaders in the current issue is your Engrish “comprehension” ...

    - It is quite logical and evident that..., from my Argie point of “comprehension”... things look “comprehensibly” different... don't you Think...?

    I will try to answer your points in the order you mention them..., ok...? ...:

    1) Argentina does NOT object to the clearing of mines... Argentina objects to the UK breach of the Joint Agreement for the Clearing of Mines we had until 2007 when the UK told us to “Bugger Off”...
    - Furthermore..., Argentina does NOT object to the clearing of mines... Argentina objects (at the UN) to the UK breach of UN Resolution 3149 which calls on both sides to abstain from any unilateral action in the disputed territories...

    2) Obviously..., my government DOES NOT WISH...:***“The mines to be replaced so that it could then be “invited” to participate in clearing them”***...
    Try not to be ***“Childish and Petulant”***...
    Ok...?

    3) It works both ways..., ya know...?...:
    - Are there really no other pressing issues in your Kingdom that merit closer attention from your government...? Does it ever occur to your Crown that a constructive approach to the whole question of the Engrish Colonial Remnant of the Malvinas Isles might bring greater benefit to all parties...?

    Capisce...?

    Nov 19th, 2020 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse -7
  • Mike Summers

    You poor sad old twit. There are times to keep your mouth shut (or your keyboard silent). This is one.

    Nov 19th, 2020 - 07:50 pm - Link - Report abuse +7
  • Think

    Honourable Mike Summers...

    1) First of all..., congratulations with your new minefield free reality...
    - It was high time...

    2) You rich happy silverfox twit... If you want me keybord silenced you can just Whatsapp Gus in Montevideo..., can't you....

    Nov 19th, 2020 - 08:26 pm - Link - Report abuse -8
  • Mike Summers

    I support freedom of speech and freedom of conscience. Shutting people down is not a supportable strategy. Encouraging people to think rationally is a better strategy.

    Nov 19th, 2020 - 09:36 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • DemonTree

    ”3) It works both ways..., ya know...?...:
    - Are there really no other pressing issues in your Kingdom that merit closer attention from your government...? Does it ever occur to your Crown that a constructive approach to the whole question of the Engrish Colonial Remnant of the Malvinas Isles might bring greater benefit to all parties...?”

    More pressing than clearing the mines? Granted they weren't the highest priority minefields on a worldwide level, but it was a treaty obligation for the UK government. And 'Argentina' and 'constructive' don't really belong in the same sentence, do they?

    Nov 19th, 2020 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Think

    Honourable Mike Summers...

    If you (as you wrote in your last comment)...:
    ***“ Support freedom of speech and freedom of conscience. Shutting people down is not a supportable strategy.”***.......

    Why did you in your first comment tell me that...:
    - ***”There are times to keep your mouth shut (or your keyboard silent). This is one.”***...?

    - I know you are a politician but..., there must be kind of a minimum time frame for your flip-flopping.........

    Nov 19th, 2020 - 11:05 pm - Link - Report abuse -7
  • bushpilot

    It was a good idea to keep Argentines off of your land and clear those mines yourself.

    Their propaganda would have been even more disgusting if they had been invited to collaborate.

    Nov 20th, 2020 - 03:27 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Roger Lorton

    3149 Thunk? As long-dead as 2065. There have been no UN Resolutions since 1988. The matter was resolved in 1989. Nothing to, err ... resolve.

    Yet again, the world laughs - at Argentina.

    Nov 20th, 2020 - 06:06 am - Link - Report abuse +7
  • Mike Summers

    That was advice Grandpop, not an instruction. Brighten up.

    Nov 20th, 2020 - 06:33 am - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Think

    Geeeeeeeeeeeeeee....

    Roger and Mike “advicing” auld little me almost simultaniously...
    Las Islas Malvinas “Rudy Giuliani's” Advisory Dream Time best pitchers... :-)))

    As they say... Take it easy, greasys... We've got a long way to slide...
    Next Stop..., EU's Galicia...

    Capisce...?

    Nov 20th, 2020 - 07:46 am - Link - Report abuse -7
  • DemonTree

    Ah, a certain someone does not understand free speech. Getting comments deleted would be interfering with free speech. Telling Think to shut it is merely Mike exercising his own right to free speech.

    Nov 20th, 2020 - 09:00 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Think

    By the way..., honourable Mike Summers...

    - Besides your above demonstrated lightning fast mastery of the noble political art of flip-flopping...

    Do you always start your “Advices” to visitors or members of your constituency with the ***“You poor sad old twit.”*** tag line...?

    Chuckle..., chuckle

    Nov 20th, 2020 - 10:52 am - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Swede

    They complain so much about “unilateral actions” and talk about “UN Resolution 3149 which calls on both sides to abstain from any unilateral action in the disputed territories”. But all their new laws and regulation regarding “The Malvinas” etc are they not also “unilateral actions in the disputed territories”, even if they are not enforceable tin the territories in question?

    Nov 20th, 2020 - 10:58 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Islander1

    Think- There was indeed joint study and co-operation as to where the mines were and types and thus how to tackle.
    But there was absolutely NO way Argentina could have taken part in the Clearing:

    1 - Its a Geneva rule that says each Country is responsible for clearing the mines on its land and wether you like it or not the accepted international fact is that the Islands are current British Territory , and thus British Territory. Yes there is a claim- one does not dispute that- but the defacto internationally accepted Government of the day is British..

    And no Argentine demining personnel would have been permitted to come here by the local people.. We know - as it has happened several times - your press would have soon been over distorting and twisting.

    Nov 20th, 2020 - 11:28 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Think

    Timlander1...

    Firstly.., I do much appreciate your todays tone then your yesterdays one...

    Secondly... it may have been “Implicit” for you Kelpers from the beginning..., but there was NO MENTION WHATSOEVER in all the 2001/2006 written agreements between the UK and Argentina of any impediment for the participation of Argentinean personnel in the demining process...
    Therefore the current..., for the UN record..., Argentinean protest...

    Thirdly..., there is indeed an Ottawa rule that says that each Country is responsible for clearing the mines on its controlled territory...
    - However..., there is no rule that says that the controlling Nation can't engage third parties..., even the former enemy in the demining process...
    That is exactly what the UK did between 2001 and 2006 by including Argentina in the Joint Demining Effort of the Malvinas /Falklands...
    Until 2007 that is..., when the UK suddenly told us to “BUGGER OFF”...
    Therefore the current..., for the UN record..., Argentinean protest...

    Capisce...?

    Nov 20th, 2020 - 12:37 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Zaczac121

    To be honest I prefer the Zimbabwean deminers

    Nov 20th, 2020 - 01:51 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Think

    Of course you do like the Rodhesians better..., Zaczac121...
    After all..., you Brutish Bunch did f*ck them for almost hundred years...

    Nov 20th, 2020 - 01:57 pm - Link - Report abuse -6
  • DemonTree

    Islander1
    That's interesting. Do you know what actually happened in 2007 that meant Argentina took no further part in the process? Or is Think making it all up?

    Nov 20th, 2020 - 02:03 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Zaczac121

    @Think

    You call me Brutish, but I’m not the one calling Zimbabwe by it’s colonial name that hasn’t been used for over 40 years (I am only 20, it was always Zimbabwe for me)

    Nov 20th, 2020 - 03:47 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • darragh

    DT

    2007 - wasn't that when Argentina had a hissy and decided to walk away from the 1995 agreement just a few days (co-incidentally?) before the 25th Anniversary of the war.?

    Nov 20th, 2020 - 04:19 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Zaczac121

    @Think

    I forgot to say, stop calling us brutes. I am working class and my ancestors before me were too, we had little say in colonialism, we all were too busy trying to live, maybe if you showed respect to people here in these comment sections they would respect you back, calling us names is just making people hate you more bruh

    Nov 20th, 2020 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse +1

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