Argentina and Chile “indissolubly twinned countries”, underlines president Fernandez

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Argentina and Chile are “indissolubly twinned countries”, said Argentine president Alberto Fernandez during the ceremony at the Palacio de la Moneda in Santiago where, next to his peer Sebastián Piñera, and members of their cabinets, they signed several accords and a joint declaration. Read full article

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Chicureo
At least Alberto Fernandez was very cordial and certainly it was a dog and pony show for the press.

Two countries on very different trajectories as Argentina's economy is disenfranchised from reality.
Jan 27th, 2021 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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Ahhhhhhhh...

Next time i'm sitting at Coyhaique's El Konken..., sipping one of el Pelado's excellent cappucinos..., I'll be able to telephone Chubut on local tariff through an ARSAT satellite...

Nice...
Jan 27th, 2021 - 01:03 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
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Chicureo
Estimado THINK

I sincerely applaud your optimism!

Just curious — what will be the current estimated Argentine inflation rate for the 2021 fiscal year? Obviously in the double digits — but perhaps TRIPLE...

Cheers!
Jan 27th, 2021 - 02:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Hermanito...:

Argie inflation 2019..., ( Under Neo-Liberal Chicago Boy & Piñera friend, M. Macri)..: 53.83%
Argie inflation 2020..., ( Under Peronist President A. Fernandez and the Covid19)..: 36.15%
Argie inflation 2021..., ( Personal estimation of “El Think” requested by Shicuréo)..: 22/28%

Why...?
Jan 27th, 2021 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
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Chicureo
Estimado THINK

Let's hope your bright optimism disproves current reality...

My skiing buddy in San Juan reported that he was seriously worried about inflation and the exchange rate. (If he did not have sheltered savings abroad — he mentioned to me that he'd be ruined.)

The Financial Times has a recent remarkable article...

QUOTE: Argentina’s inflation rate hit 53.8 per cent in 2019, climbing to its highest level in almost three decades and underlining the scale of the challenges facing the embattled country’s new leftist president, Alberto Fernández.
The national statistics agency announced on Wednesday that prices rose 3.7 per cent in December after renewed currency volatility ahead of elections last year, confirming Argentina’s place among the top five countries with the highest inflation rates in the world — behind Venezuela, Zimbabwe, South Sudan and Sudan
https://www.ft.com/content/e6f5c436-37d2-11ea-a6d3-9a26f8c3cba4

¡Saludos!
Jan 27th, 2021 - 04:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Think
Hermanito...

I base my moderate optimism on real numbers and tendencies..., not on “Anti-Something” feelings...:

Argie inflation 2019..., ( Under Neo-Liberal Chicago Boy & Piñera friend, M. Macri)..: 53.83%
Argie inflation 2020..., ( Under Peronist President A. Fernandez and the Covid19)..: 36.15%
That gives us an Inflationary DECREASE of about 30%...*
*(The “Kool-Aid” you drink..., Shicureo..., estimated an increase of ~100%... They were wrong...)

Shile's inflation 2019..., ( Under Neo-Liberal Chicago Boy Piñera )..: 2.52%
Shile's inflation 2020..., ( Under Neo-Liberal Chicago Boy Piñera )..: 3.05%
That gives us an inflationary INCREASE of about 20%...*
*(The “Kool-Aid” you drink..., Shicureo..., estimated stability at 0%... They were wrong...)

Capisce...?
Jan 27th, 2021 - 04:26 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
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Chicureo
Estimado THINK

Why should you harbor I'll thoughts about our heroic Chicago Boys?

Yes — yes... I know the drama as I lived through their errors — but our economy emerged revitalized!

Already the current consumer prices do not reflect official statistics...

What is the current exchange: 1USD = 85ARS?

They still haven't agreed upon the real 2020 inflation rate...
https://www.focus-economics.com/country-indicator/argentina/inflation

Like I said — I admire your optimism!

¡Saludos!
Jan 27th, 2021 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Memento Moris..., hermanito...

You have surely heard the music before..., bud have you ever pay attention to the lyrics...?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qNmUTdIVNXc
Jan 27th, 2021 - 05:15 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
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Chicureo
Estimado THINK

I know it too well...*

I would consider instead a soulful Tango musical link would be far more appropriate: https://youtu.be/tu12xR0l0G0

I adore a marvelous Tango!

I’ve been alerted that my passionate Tango partner — the ringleader of the tricoteuses — Madame DeFarge is returning to the farm this afternoon.

Say what you want to say about your terrible economic governance — but your national dance has provided us as a couple nothing but pleasure. (That's a sincere compliment.)

I really desire no quarrel with you — only to point out that your dear country needs to face stark reality.

¡Saludos!

* In1935–36, the 13th-century poem “O Fortuna” was set to music by the German composer Carl Orff for Carmina Burana, his twenty-five-movement cantata. The composition appears in numerous films and television commercials and has become a staple in popular culture, setting the mood for dramatic or cataclysmic situations.
Jan 27th, 2021 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Think
Querís tango...? Tomá tango...

Alberto cantandole un tango al Presidente...:
- “De chiquilín te miraba de afuera
- Como a esas cosas que núnca se alcanzan”...
https://www.telam.com.ar/advf/imagenes/2021/01/60107b31e8506_1004x565.jpg

Capisce...?
Jan 27th, 2021 - 06:36 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
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Chicureo
Estimado THINK

Weather is stunningly perfect again today.

Oh I saw the dance and drama yesterday in the news.

Alberto preformed a Tango beautifully and really did preform — as CFK would want him to do.

Honestly, it was foolishly believed that when your Macri’s administration came to IMF promising change and reform — he supposedly believed himself to be capable of engineering an economic about face.

But it’s not the economy, it’s your culture. Argentina’s proclivity to over-borrow, over-spend, and then act like bewildered victims of some complex plot has nothing to do with the economic theory. All the austerity in the world is not going to magically transform Argentines into logical decision makers.

Sadly, the IMF look upon the current administration of Fernandez as typical Argentine politician. When he says he will pay back loans and not enact currency controls, he’s not lying — he’s simply Argentine, and thus bewilderingly capable of holding multiple opposing and incompatible ideas in his head, and simultaneously believing they are all true.

Argentina is on an inevitable path back to currency controls and I see Argentina will never dollarize but will again dive into the rabbit hole of denial.

Meanwhile, ma mariée enchantresse has brought back an iced cooler with four dozen freshly shucked oysters from our favorite Chicureo “lakeside” restaurant and informed this evening’s fare will also include Lenguado meunière with asparagus.

All is well in Panquehue and our Banco Central continues to guide us along with the careful economic monetary policy of our esteemed Chicago Boys resulting in a stable currency.

¡Saludos!
Jan 27th, 2021 - 07:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Think
***“Argentina is on an inevitable path back to currency controls”***..., you say...?

Pls. Inform yourself..., hermanito...!
We have been there since 1½ years ago...:
https://www.france24.com/es/20190901-macri-lanza-medidas-de-control-de-cambio-en-argentina-para-calmar-mercados

Capisce...?
Jan 27th, 2021 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
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Chicureo
Estimado THINK

Forgive me for omitting what I should have inserted EVEN MORE RESTRICTIVE currency controls.

In a pre-Fernandez video — it was very clear your Argentine economy was further failing under the Macri’s administration:
https://youtu.be/WfGj13vREPA

Today unfortunately is absolutely worse!

Although, I do sincerely hope your country does change its destructive economic policy.

¡Saludos!
Jan 27th, 2021 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Think
You didn't “omit”..., guardiamarina.., you didn't know...

Anyhow..., IMHO..., the BASAL problem we Argies face since ~1955..., is a privileged class that Thinks they own a Country & a People..., that they profoundly despise...

We will have to work on that...

Capisce...?
Jan 27th, 2021 - 09:18 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
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Chicureo
Estimado THINK

Your country currency exchange rules has always been mystery to us across the border and our travellers find spending our pesos or USD is always advantageous in nearby Mendoza.

It looks like to me the true privileged class of Argentina is your Peronist politicians!

One of the greatest robberies in Latin America:
https://youtu.be/US_HUVTqjj4

Although the claims seems ridiculous — even of it were only 10%of what’s accused it’s profane.

¡Saludos!
Jan 27th, 2021 - 09:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...
How do you even made it to guardiamarina..., Shicureo...?

Above..., i commented about you weakness for slurping all the Neo-Liberal/Libertarian/All-Right “Kool-Aid” served to you...

And the first thing you do..., is link us to “VisualPolitik”..., one of the very “virtual-factories” where Neo-Liberal/Libertarian/All-Right “Kool-Aid” is produced...!

You are soooo naive that I begin to Think that I should suggest you to...:

1) Google..., for starters the meaning of “Drinking the Kool Aid”...

2) Google about who“VisualPolitik” are..., and watch some other of their many “Kool Aid” videos...

3) Google about the Argie “Causa de los Cuadernos”, on which your idiotic linked “Kool Aid” video says it is based...

- Not that I have any hope you will even begin to try broaden your mind a bit..., hermanito...

After all..., you still seem to Think that Trump won the election..., that the Covid19 virus came from China and that some Illuminati..., feeding on previously terrorized small childrens blood..., are out to steal your paltas...

Capisce....?
Jan 27th, 2021 - 11:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Chicureo
Estimado THINK

Nice switching of subjects — but I could bury you with the numerous scandals that have documented about your governments.

I had the experience of meeting perhaps one of the most corrupt — but certainly one of the most charming criminals of your nation — Carlos Menem. (Once at a vineyard ceremony in the Rioja province and the second time here in Chile at a party. The man has remarkable charisma and charming is probably an understatement.)

There is vast corruption throughout our continent — but your nation takes the cake.

Regarding your comments — I think that Biden did indeed win the American popular vote — but the evidence about voter fraud enabled him to defeat Trump in the Electoral College. (It doesn’t matter now as the election has been certified by congress.)

If the COVID19 did NOT originate in Wuhan China — WHERE on earth do think it originated?

I’ve never subscribed to the wild accusations of the alleged small children blood trade — but we continue to combat the highly lucrative illegal avocado theft which requires constant security.

We should terminate the harvest by the first few days of next month. Export prices are outstanding!

Although it’s only sunset — we’ve already began with the l'entrée of fresh oysters with a chilled Sauvignon blanc.

¡Saludos!
Jan 28th, 2021 - 12:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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Shicuréo...

Nobody knows YET... were Covid19 originated... But hundreds of different articles and studies from serious sources as universities and hospitals in Italy..., Spain..., France..., Et Al..., tell us about the Covid19 virus presence in Europe already in March..., April..., September..., October and November 2019...

Much before your beloved Trump...: “China Virus”...

Como muestra basta un botón...:
https://www.lastampa.it/cronaca/2020/11/15/news/istituto-tumori-milano-covid-in-italia-gia-da-settembre-2019-1.39543356

I Think you won't find any of this scientific, documented info at “VisualPolitik”...

Capisce...?
Jan 28th, 2021 - 12:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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Chicureo
Estimado THINK

I cannot ignore science.

“For the first cases in which antibodies were found in September - adds Apolone - the infection probably occurred in August”. [2019]

It will be interesting to see how the investigation goes. Perhaps it was not due to the market or lab in Wuhan.

Eventually they will trace the source. (Although I believe China will not be very cooperative.)

VisualPolitik is only a sample of a plethora of critics — including of my poor country being accused of being “highly class oriented by the same families”.

How ridiculous!

Pleasant evening to you!
Jan 28th, 2021 - 01:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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Think
Geeeeeeeeeeeeee...

Big Brother may indeed be watching us...!

This morning..., Youtube's feed recommended me this “funny” video 'bout a Scot..., a French and a Venezuelan... ;-)))

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yruXA_AX7gk

Capisce....
Jan 28th, 2021 - 07:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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Chicureo
Estimado THINK

It's not that I'd rank myself as an alley cat (as that would be a result against the feline species) — but the one of the cats us definitely not our very beautiful, intelligent and highly competent Venezolana (who I mentioned herself is engaged to a highly regarded agronomist)

Saying that — the depiction seems although highly accurate — especially of the Tom as he realizes he's been discovered.

The Williamson Balfour BMW temptress has not been around lately — but remains a close friend of the Catalan-Occitan hembra.
Jan 28th, 2021 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Think
You poor little sausage...
You should have been born in Jacqueline van's carnal grandfather's time....
That Shilean Patriarch really knew how to plant his seed & party..., never mind the Missus...

Capisce...?
Jan 28th, 2021 - 04:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Chicureo
Estimado THINK

Please inform this obvious ignorant little sausage who is the “Jacqueline van's carnal grandfather's time” character...

¡Saludos!
Jan 28th, 2021 - 04:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Think
Enrique van Rysselberghe..., alcalde (designado)
Jan 28th, 2021 - 05:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Chicureo
Estimado THINK

The large family has a historic legacy in Chile going back to 1905 — but the great-grandfather's history in Belgium is remarkable.

Having a string of mistresses and illegitimate children was the norm and was the common practice of my forebears as well.

Jacqueline is an intelligent woman — but unsuitable to run for the conservative nomination as their presidential candidate.

Still to early who will win in the next election — but it will not be from the RN or UDI.

Sowing ones wild oats today is highly dangerous and terribly expensive.

¡SALUDOS!
Jan 28th, 2021 - 05:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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The good auld times....

- When a man of good lineage would wed a woman of good stock..., and provide her with a sheltered, privileged life until death did they part..., in exchange for the natural hu-man right of jotear around...
Jan 28th, 2021 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Chicureo
Estimado THINK

My father shared with me the tales of my dear grandfather who would “disappear” for days and his 'messaging service” was our august Club de la Unión (which I continue to belong) and I understand the sworn secrecy then was paramount.

Those were the days in which mistresses actually had different levels of status. (Bastard children as well — although it was even more complicated in getting them into a good school.)

We live in very different times...

¡Saludos!
Jan 28th, 2021 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
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Then...
You poor little sausage...
You should have been born in your dear grandfather's time....
That Shilean Patriarch really knew how to plant his seed & party..., never mind the Missus...

Meglio...?
Jan 29th, 2021 - 12:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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Chicureo
Estimado THINK

Oh no, not my grandfather’s time — but one of my great-grandfathers instead. (He was an amazing adventurer.)

(I'm certain yours perhaps were as equally remarkable — although I don't pretend to know.)

But then again — the miserable problems he and my grandfather faced were immensity challenging. Certainly medical care was terrible and the entire tumultuous 20th century was a rollercoaster.

I prefer my comfortable life now — especially this beautiful evening with very few difficulties for my family. Despite the general difficulties of 2020 — we have all prospered exceptionally well.

As I’ve mentioned — both our avocado as well as table grape yields are far exceeding our harvest estimates.

Amazingly Summer has so far been ideal — field labor is plentiful with no labor unrest and the export market is remarkably good — with record prices.

There is however a threat of the first rain of the season tomorrow — it could affect the final harvest quality —but hopefully it should be inconsequential.

For the Canadian reader lurking — this evening’s fare with ma mariée was roasted chicken with a morel and peppercorn sauce accompanied with asparagus — paired with a chilled Chardonnay.

Wishing you THINK a very pleasant night.

¡Saludos!
Jan 29th, 2021 - 02:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0
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Shicuréo..., hermanito...

- You said...:
(I'm certain yours (ancestors) perhaps were as equally remarkable — although I don't pretend to know.)
- I say...:
Following the “Law of Jante”..., I'll just say that they were your average Vikings...

- You said above...:
***”Certainly medical care was terrible (in Shile)“*** and ***”I prefer my comfortable life now (in Shile)”***
- I say...:
You must then be happy that Shile DID NOT follow the SWEDISH example...?
(SWEDEN..., currently with ~30% more Covid19 cases and deaths per million..., than my CHILE querido...)

- You also said..., a bit further above...:
***“ I cannot ignore science.”***
- I say...:
Do you perhaps..., consider Anthropology a science...?
https://www.coronatimes.net/covid-19-nordic-trust-collective-denial-sweden-norway/

Capisce...?
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