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Argentina committed to a WTO agreement on fishing subsidies – but don't forget the Falklands

Monday, July 19th 2021 - 09:55 UTC
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Argentina participated in the recent Trade negotiations of the World Trade Organization at the ministerial level, which addressed the issue of rules for global fisheries and limits to government subsidies to fishing, committing its support for an agreement, but not forgetting the Falkland Islands claim. Read full article

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  • Brit Bob

    'It is a well-established practice, accepted as law that title over natural resources is to follow that over territory: accordingly, the sovereign subject enjoys the exclusive right to dispose of the natural wealth of the area which it exercises sovereignty.' (UN Stockholm Declaration 1972, Principle 21 & UN Rio Declaration 1992, Principle 2, Declarations on the Human Environment).

    Jul 19th, 2021 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Trimonde

    ... which of course is completely illogical and makes no real sense.
    The world's *living* natural resources more so than all other natural resources, thrive subsist and proliferate, meaning they exist at all; through organic natural orders that have absolutely zero to do with man made political lines. If countries are to in any way attempt to secure the future health and availability of said resources, they are going to have to ONLY think of them through organic logic. That means respect and nurturing for where and when those resources reproduce, dwell and migrate, and all the factors that describe the balance and interrelation of their critical population with to other animal spices and the environment that secure all of their continued proliferation and health. Which ALSO needs to include a rationale and proportionally appropriate calculation to a country's population and territorial size.... If we as a species are going to survive ALIVE on this planet, and establish fair and just coexistence among its countries.
    We don't care what ink has taken down to paper or what whatever international agreement has stipulated so far BRIT BOB, just spare yourself any arguing, because I know I'm never going to not be right about this.
    On a side note question sir...
    WHAT THE HELL ON EARTH is happening up there inside your brain, that you so predictably went ahead and turned something that does not concern at all Argentina's problem with Britain over the Malvinas Islands, into some kind of as usual disgruntled comment that wishes it had something more critical to be able to say about Argentina??

    Jul 19th, 2021 - 01:23 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Roger Lorton

    Italian Pat still failing to take his reality tablets, I see.

    Argentina is hoping to extend its borders. Isn't going to happen.

    Jul 19th, 2021 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • bushpilot

    Patrick,

    Your admiration for Alexander Betts makes it impossible for anybody to consider your arguments “right”.

    How can you admire a man who left his wife, and even his children, to have an extra-marital relation with a woman in another land?

    You make people wonder, “WHAT THE HELL ON EARTH is happening up there inside your brain?”

    Is it possible that you are the one with the addled brain?

    So Patrick, here is a question completely unrelated to the article:

    What does Patrick think of a father that abandons his children?

    Jul 19th, 2021 - 11:45 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Trimonde

    Alejandro was quietly ostracized by the island's society and psychologically pressured through rejection (poor man you horrible horrible people!!), which played through all the way into his personal family relations in part because of his brother and wife. You people will lie about everything like a drunken whore so as long as you refuse to admit any unflattering or shameful truths about yourselves, right through your teeth like some heartless stone faced type writing android ! ... All because he acted on his convictions and took a more than valid political side on the issue of the island's history. What bloody business is it of yours to be spewing out of your insolent hearts intimate matters about his family ANYWAYS! You don't care do you? Instead of commending him for his bravery and being an outstanding democratic example for your society withstanding a controversy, you character assassinate him, as you do with everything when it comes to covering up your country's actions and disgusting perverted sense of morals, you will laboriously in unison obsessively broadcast some well tailored narrative so that the world doesn't see what you are 'really doing' nor what you really are. You have done the same to a few other people, who's trusting innocence did not allow their natural “radar” senses while living among you to detect in time that they would suffer a similar fate. ... The hilarious part is that some of your more ridiculous fascists boast being a ”free democratic and LIBERATED (that one's REALLY FUNNY!) people, when in reality the islands are more like some weird sci-fi drone-clone operated “Stepford archipelago”. You are a corrupt little creepy occupation population that does backwards Quaker like repressive things; like making sure airplane tickets from the mainland cost more than flying to Europe, just so that you can keep Argentinians from visiting the islands in your never ending “modus operandai stealing enterprise” while they were living there first.

    Jul 20th, 2021 - 08:10 am - Link - Report abuse -3
  • bushpilot

    “just spare yourself any arguing, because I know I'm never going to not be right about this.”

    He abandoned his children. This is not an act of bravery Patrick.

    Jul 20th, 2021 - 08:34 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Trimonde

    What the f*c* do you know about how, when and in what manner he needs to look out for his children! It's not your family you insolent little sh*t. This is what I mean by British hypocritical perverted and twisted sense of self serving self absolving moral double standards. The man deserves his dignity respected like any of us would in the same circumstances. He has children in Argentina also. Would you say the same if he had decided to return to Malvinas and live there? Besides, you have ZERO knowledge or understanding on what happened in Stanley between his wife and his children and why he had to choose letting them be. And it is not like he left them alone in some squalor of the Bronx! They stayed where they were safe and surrounded by all the people they grew up with, while he had to brave migrating to a place where, praised as he may have been, was a very different culture to the people he grew up around, every day knowing he had to go there not by his own preference, destined to die far away from his homeland because of the vicious hard-headed backwardness of the islanders. Get some tact. Get some class. Get some sense of respect.
    Like I said before, you're thinking just like every one else, mindlessly bent on needing to defame him because of the outstanding political statement he makes against British occupation, which weirdly enough would be a compliment to islander's society, were they able and broad minded enough to think correctly, as opposed to conditioned by London's social-political strategic necessity.

    Jul 20th, 2021 - 10:21 am - Link - Report abuse -3
  • BrianFI

    “like making sure airplane tickets from the mainland cost more than flying to Europe” Actually thats the price LATAM put in place to make the route profitable. Falkland Islanders pay the same rates.

    Alex Betts was not forced out the islands as no one knew he had turned traitor until well after he ran away with his Argie mistress. Funny considering little over 2 years before, and before he met the Argie mistress, he was writing pro British articles in the Penguin News............ me thinks he changed his stance for Argie pussy more than his “convictions” chuckle chuckle

    Jul 20th, 2021 - 11:49 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Swede

    @Trimonde. I think you should use a more decent language. It is not nice calling your opponents things like “you insolent little sh*t”. And why is Betts that admirable? In the case of an Argentine victory he could have been the islands own Vidkun Quisling. On the other hand he was a staunch opponent of the Argies just a few years before 1982. He had an affair with an Argentine woman and therefore he left the his family and country. To get favours in his new domicile he began working for them. Not so very heroic, indeed.

    Jul 20th, 2021 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Trimonde

    Uhu... “He was a staunch opponent of the Argies” then “He had an affair with an Argentine woman” OKay... that makes a lot of sense.

    Jul 20th, 2021 - 12:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • BrianFI

    “Uhu... “He was a staunch opponent of the Argies” then “He had an affair with an Argentine woman” OKay... that makes a lot of sense.”

    Well done, you have pointed out the obvious destroyed you own point. Yep, he was just that sort of man, to say one thing but do another. To say he supports his people but entirely flip opinions on whim for his own benefit. This is a man you admire, a man with no morals or backbone. Just a slimy worm only committing to things for his own benefit, even at the expense of his own children................ who he abandoned in a warzone, surrounded by Argie landmines for some Argie pussy

    Jul 20th, 2021 - 12:55 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Chicureo

    Bless the poor man in love with an Argentine woman!

    When I was a adolescent lad, we would vacation at the beaches of during the summer and I was absolutely smitten with the beautiful girls that had traveled across our Andes from Mendoza and other western regions of Argentina to enjoy the Pacific.

    At the time I was absolutely convinced that Argentine women were the most beautiful because they obviously were obsessed with their looks — wearily the latest 1970’s fashion and even strolling the beach boardwalk in high heels.

    Watching the Argentine women strut on the beaches of Viña Del Mar was like watching fine Thoroughbreds at the paddock.

    Our Argentine cousins are very sophisticated and engage in a great deal of social activity — because they do not consider themselves Latin Americans like ourselves but Europeans, and so they must look and dress the part — because the philosophy of looking after themselves is fixed in the minds of Argentine girls from a very early age.

    However, beneath the physical charms there lurk a lot of complications, a lot of neuroses. Hence the enormous clientele for psychiatrists — as while it is one thing to fall in love with an Argentine woman, it is quite another to settle into a stable long-term relationship.

    God made Argentine women beautiful, but to compensate he also made them impossible to live with!

    There's a lot of possessiveness, a lot of jealousy and that desires. They want to be new and liberated and independent but they don't want to abandon anything of that old seductress identity. It causes conflict and anguish in attempting to maintain a relationship with one of them.

    I have dear friends in Argentina — and although the women are highly alluring in their ‘20s — they generally look like old Italian nonas in their ‘30s.

    Pity the poor man brave enough to engage in love with an Argentine woman — they have my sympathies — but they’ll experience quite an exciting adventure!


    ¡Saludos cordiales desde Valle Nevado!

    Jul 20th, 2021 - 01:39 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Trimonde

    You are so steeped in irrational prejudices Chicky, you almost sound like you're still being thawed out after being found in a glacier in the Andes. Women and men are the same everywhere once you get passed how they talk, how they dress or how the look. And you know what? I am so SO SICK of people saying “Argentinians think they're Europeans and so they this and that.... ” I know Argentinians, obviously. And I have known also Latinamericans from the whole continent all my life, and I can beyond any doubt state categorically that “that comment” originates everywhere else, except in Argentina. Argentinians simply know they are mostly sons of emigrants from the whole world. It's just a fact and it's neither good nor bad. It's just how it is, and we know it. And if you were an Argentinian with any level of literacy you would have learned that proportionately to the population it is the most European (East and West) immigrated country in all of Latinamerica. SO WHAT? You want us to be banned from using facts in our day to day knowledge of the world?? ... So who, I ask you, would say something like “They think that because they are Europeans they are better than others” They themselves? Or surrounding countries like Chile? And what would make them say such a thing? hhm? It seems to me it bothers some countries more than what the average Argentinian is even aware of it being “a thing”.
    Well I'm not interested in running the spear all the way through, the fact is that all of Latinamerica is intensely immigrated and the expansion of post colonial Europe. However different we may look, the American continent is European culture, mixed in with a whole lot of stuff in different places, some more than others. But what's the point of trying to create a debate on who thinks what of themselves, or how native or how European a place is??? It's DONE bro!! The mixer has been running for a long long time, and now we are much more One, than we are different.

    Jul 20th, 2021 - 08:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • bushpilot

    Patrick,

    In your previous post here concerning living natural resources, you refer to:

    “organic natural orders that have absolutely zero to do with man made political lines.”

    You object to a poster bringing up the Falklands issue in the midst of an article discussing international co-operation in the conservation of natural resources.

    Your quote, “WHAT THE HELL ON EARTH is happening up there inside your brain, that you so predictably went ahead and turned something that does not concern at all Argentina's problem with Britain over the Malvinas Islands”.

    But a part of this article is referring to foreign minister's Felipe Sola's bringing up of the very same Falklands issue.

    “The minister however pointed out that Argentina considers that because of the nature of negotiations, the future text must contemplate aspects of extreme sensitivity for its members”.

    “This means that the text will not have juridical consequences referred to territorial claims or delimitation of maritime jurisdictions. That is why Argentina considers of the utmost relevance that the text includes, to that respect, a clear and specific safeguard”.

    Sola is referring to ”text“ Patrick, even though you said, ”we don't care about ink“.

    So Patrick:

    As you said, this natural resource conservation issue is, ”something that does not concern at all Argentina's problem with Britain over the Malvinas Islands”.

    Do you also object to minister Felipe Sola's mixing the Falklands territorial dispute with an issue of greater importance, that of multi-lateral cooperation to protect living natural resources?

    Do you also want to know, WHAT THE HELL ON EARTH is happening up there inside minister Felipe Sola's brain?

    Jul 20th, 2021 - 09:54 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Trimonde

    Yes, he's trying to walk a very narrow line.
    I think you need to contextualize my comment BushSearcher, to BritBob's hostile comment. I have not looked at what Solá is doing, but if I were I would have approached the matter completely differently, because HE DOES have to work with hard political lines, though he may or may not be aware of the planet's utmost necessities. Which is where I was coming from.
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    You know I got to tell you. It really is interesting observing how you omit some things I say to pick and choose other ones you feel you can build an attack on.
    .

    Jul 22nd, 2021 - 12:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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