The Falkland Islands Government (FIG) confirmed on Friday that in effect it has held conversations with the UK government about the possibility of putting on a charter flight for South American members of our community to visit family and friends during the festive season. Read full article
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Sadly Not much chance as Arg reply will almost certainly be yes if an AA charter flight- not Latam.Dec 11th, 2021 - 10:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
This headline, conveys entirely the wrong impression. The request is not for a compassionate charter flight, but for a flight to overfly Argentine airspace. Try to do better MercoPressDec 11th, 2021 - 11:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Excuse me, Roger Lorton, if this is a stupid question, I am sitting far away on the other side of the globe: Could it be possible to go by ship instead? How long time to go from Stanley to e.g. Punta Arenas or any other Chilean port? Are there any vessels available?Dec 11th, 2021 - 11:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Hello Swede, no suitable passenger vessels available.So it has to be Latam - and methinks Arg will say no to the overflight and offer AA instead - which would be turned down and could not happen as apart from us not accepting it- AA would never be allowed to make all the appropriate preflight paperwork contacts with FIF Civil Aviation - as we don't exist!Dec 11th, 2021 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
It was to be expected. The colony of England in South American lands never respected the rules that all American countries follow and abide by. Instead, they seek to reduce our people to lamentation and refuse to recognize the right to Argentina's sovereign 200 nautical miles.Dec 11th, 2021 - 03:32 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
The English Islands were rich with the theft of fish that systematically takes place on Argentina's continental shelf.
The English Islands complain too much!
Brasilerio , do some research, your post is factually nonsense.Dec 11th, 2021 - 04:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
The people of the Islands know perfectly well that London has done nothing to prevent or resolve this untenable situation. Argentina is offering a solution in accordance with its commitments to respect the interests of the inhabitants of the Islands. Those who want to avoid all contact between the Islands and the mainland should put aside their selfishness and their particular interests in favor of the welfare of those who have been unable to return to their hometowns for two years to attend to family, health or personal matters.Dec 11th, 2021 - 08:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
FRod - Argentina is taking the piss (excuse my French).Dec 11th, 2021 - 09:47 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
Of course Frodriguez, we are all to take what Argentina says at face value. They are famous for sticking by their word and honouring all debts. We, naturally, accept everything the Pink House says as the word of God.Dec 12th, 2021 - 11:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0
FRodriguezDec 12th, 2021 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Argentina Gov is trying to take advantage of a humanitarian situation for political reasons of their own.
Why can’t Argentina simply agree to allow a charter flight to cross their air space, which would cost them nothing???
Because that would not involve Argentina, where their policy is to force an Argentinian footprint on everything they can to do with the S. Atlantic, for political reasons of their own.
Humanitarian considerations do not come into it in BA, only political advantage.
Argentina refuses to even speak to the inhabitants of the Falklands, continue to claim their lands, having previously invaded.
It cannot be a surprise to anyone they want nothing to do with Argentina.
After two years, Buenos Aires is the only one that has been concerned about the welfare and interests of the inhabitants. If you really care about this humanitarian issue as you say you do, you should leave your own pettiness aside and accept the help that has been offered to you. If what the British elites with particular economic and political interests in no contact between the Islands and the continent have made you fear so much happens, you will have an excuse for the future (and even a political argument), otherwise, you are only taking away the opportunity for these people to return to their homes and attend to their personal, family and health issues.Dec 12th, 2021 - 06:51 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
FRod, Argentina is not the least bit concerned about the Islanders welfare. They are just trying to make political capital out of a humanitarian situation. Argentina, should be ashamed.Dec 12th, 2021 - 11:17 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
The FIG should have an alternative, however. Thought they were traditionally a seafaring people. Hasn't the FIG got a boat anymore?
Relying on the airways is just letting Argentina get a grip of the Islanders (collective) goolies.
They want it to seem like they are doing something noble for the Falkland Islanders.Dec 13th, 2021 - 12:06 am - Link - Report abuse +3
The real purpose is for land-grabbing political capital.
They will later argue that they have been sooooo good to the Falkland Islanders and those Islanders still refuse to give any ground on anything.
If they were sincerely humanitarian about this, they would just say, go ahead.
Islander1Dec 13th, 2021 - 02:11 am - Link - Report abuse -3
AA would never be allowed to make all the appropriate preflight paperwork contacts with FIF Civil Aviation
what is FIF?, are all flights to MP approved by FIF?
AA needs UK clearance to land at MP, because MP is a UK military base where FIG does not decide.
Hasn't the FIG got a boat anymore?
You are the famous South Atlantic historian / researcher and famous Thai Brexiter
who knows everything that happens on the islands, and what the islanders think and what is best for them.
you don't know if they have a boat? Don't you know why after more than a year they didn't rent one?
Come on Rl you look more and more like the other mediocre feibian jorobita turcato who thinks from Canada without knowing anything..
It's like Brexit, it's easy to give your opinion and say what they should do if it doesn't affect you
It's like Guillito.Dec 13th, 2021 - 06:19 am - Link - Report abuse +1
Gullible, do try to remember where you left the other brain cellDec 13th, 2021 - 09:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
I honestly don't understand. What's the problem in accepting an humanitarian flight between the Islands and the argentine territory? It will help those in need. For those in need it is exaclty the very same as if the flight were between the Islands and Chile.Dec 13th, 2021 - 12:19 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
There are a lot of Chileans living there, but very few Argentines. It must of course be much better to go directly to Chile (just overflying Arg territory) than involving a third part. Specially as Argentina is involved in a territorial dispute and referring to the FIG as an illegitimate government &c &c. I am sure the people of the F.I. do not want to see any Arg aircraft landing there. For obvious reasons they do not trust Argentina.Dec 13th, 2021 - 04:28 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
The lack of trust is mutual among the islanders, the British Government and the Argentine Government. Going directly to Chile may be more convenient for some Chileans living in the Islands, but the flight would serve its purpose. In this, strangely, I am with the Argentine Government, they offer you an humanitarian flight so the responsibility lies with whoever rejects it.Dec 13th, 2021 - 05:53 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
There is a new argentine official offering that proposes to use AA to flight from the islands to Punta Arenas directly or to any other chilean airport, taking account of pandemic restrictions. It was also noted that Argentina have offered also regulars flights to the mainland.Dec 13th, 2021 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
Roger LortonDec 14th, 2021 - 03:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0
Gullible, do try to remember where you left the other brain cell
You attack me but you don't answer my questions.
It's easy to be pro Brexit living in Thailand because it doesn't affect you.
here we are talking about an AA flight not to the international airport of stanley, a flight to MP allowed by the UK military to go first to PA and then to BSAS. If there are people interested in the flight, what is the problem?
Your problem, as Mark Kent said, is ideological, but in the end it doesn't affect you.
Gullible, I'll take that as a no idea where I left itDec 14th, 2021 - 08:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
1) my pension comes from the UK, so I am affected (exchange rates, investments, etc)
2) what international airport at Stanley?
3) when did ex-Ambassador Kent say that? I do remember him saying that the question of the Falklands was settled, and, I seem to recall, questions being raised in your Senate about that.
Ideological problems? Compared to Argieland, all is well in my world.
As for the flights, it is clear to anyone with more than two brain cells (which apparently you do not have) that Buenos Aires is trying to reinforce its ”Malvinas' credentials before its population by forcing a couple of flights on the Islanders when all they wanted was permission to overfly Argentina air-space. And, of course, it will not be just two flights. Argentina will then try to insist that the deal with LATAM is cancelled and that AA control all the flights in and out of the Islands. If that happens, Argentina really will have the Islanders by the short and curlies.
Up to them, though. Call it - self determination.
Keep searching, Gullible.
Just to be clear about this, Argentina was asked if it would allow a humanitarian charter flight to cross it airspace from Fl to Chile and then back.Dec 14th, 2021 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
Argentina REFUSED the request, OK, REFUSED.
Argentina is now insisting the flights must be Argy flag carrier aircraft (AA) and must land in Argentina.
There is no humanitarian reason why the aircraft must be Argy and no reason at all why they should land in Argentina.
Argentina has taken an entirely political stance on what should be a purely humanitarian matter.
Frankly, it smacks of desperation on BA’s part trying to prove they’re important and a player, however much they might seem to be irrelevant.
Clock this me ol China, if you can Adam and Eve it, coz the Rozzer dun a runner with the swag from the blag he blew the whistle on, it is current whereabouts unknown, nod’s as good as a wink to a blind horse, crystal?
Or put it another way, swapped his Plod daisy roots on the beat, for silk slippers in a sauna by the beach, kushti or what?