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Argentina's closeness to China, Russia worries London amid Ukraine crisis
London is noticing Argentine President Alberto Fernández's foreign policy, particularly Sunday's joint written statement whereby the South American country backed China's claim over Taiwan and, in return, the Government of Xi Jinping supported Argentina's sovereignty quest regarding the Falkland Islands. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulespff PLEASE!! It's precisely what London wants, what it continues to foster, and what Britain subscribed to when dumb air head Thatcher decided her pride and prejudice was more important than civility towards this age old territorial conflict with Argentina, taking a selfish smelly dump together with its US right wing capitalist cohorts on Latin American relations and the US nation Europe so on and so forth, because to them it was more strategically important to keep Falklands and ignore Malvinas belonging to Argentina. There's proof all over the place and all over the world, the US and UK prefer and choose confrontational antagonism and belligerency while masking it at the same time, as an encroachment system in order to advance their geopolitical agenda which is keeping the world at war while insulting with contempt the rest of us who must share this planet with them. What their “official narrative” is, and what the “truth behind their actions” is, are two entirely different things, completely. Who the hell do these countries think they are! Morally judging the sovereign decisions other countries make, and often are forced to make, because of these bullies' exercise of irreverent disregard and invasiveness.
Feb 07th, 2022 - 01:09 pm - Link - Report abuse -4So lets see who the Argie govt is best friends with...
Feb 07th, 2022 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse +3CUBA,
VENEZUELA
NICARAGUA
plus a few more Latino nations of neo-marxist persuasion
IRAN
PALESTINE
TURKEY (under Erdogan for sure)
PAKISTAN (probably)
MYANMAR (ditto)
NORTH KOREA
CHINA
RUSSIA
BELARUS (betcha..!)
assorted STAN'S (the worst ones of course, in case any are not?)
ZIMBABWE
A(NC)ZANIA (the former South Africa)
Basically any fundamentalist Muslim or totalitarian Marxist-oriented countries which are enemies of freedom.
So why is Argentina - under this government, and one's past - still considered an “ally” of the West and part of the “free world”..?
So tell me, why do you intentionally omit the list that is just as long if not longer of countries Argentina is “friendly with” that are considered by your standards free democratic countries?... Maybe Argentina is aggressively pursuing fair multilateralism because it is uninterested in being part of the division your country aggressively pursues of separating the world into those countries who are obedient and compliant, from those who seek to eject your country's vampire tentacles it inserts during much more trusting administrations?
Feb 07th, 2022 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse -4Let’s hope this storm of a teacup fades away as the world needs to return to normalcy and peace. We had too many negative distractions lately.
Feb 07th, 2022 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Today I’m currently enjoying the magnificent Aconcagua Valley — the venue I consider our traditional family haven and where I personally feel most comfortable.
We derive enjoyment from agriculture and the sweet smell of the rich earth. Soil is an antidepressant — the sweet smell of mycobacterium vacii — the microorganism found in the soil, compost and leaf mold — lights up neurotransmitters that release serotonin — an incredibly mood-lifting hormone.
This sensory sensation is exhilarating as the harvest anticipation makes me so excited. (Avocados obvious are our primary focus — but grapes have always been an important part of our heritage.)
The vineyards are again promising a marvelous harvest — with carefully thinned bunches to maximum yields of quality and uniformity. (Growing a crop is always a gambling proposition with so many things that so can go terribly wrong…)
Our youngest daughter has returned from Lago Panguipulli to assist me with the logistics — which include the preparation of the large packing facility located in the nearby municipality of San Felipe — where our table grapes are packed and refrigerated.
I should mention that much of the grape bunch preparation will be completed in the field — prior to harvesting — with the careful packing completed at the leased San Felipe facility.
Although we grow a few select seedless grape varieties. (Our goal is exceptional quality grown fruit with the strictest phytosanitary standards of the grape community.)
As I’ve mentioned — our targeted markets are Wegmans in the USA and Tesco in the UK. (This includes the highly valued TESCO NURTURE certification — GLOBALG.A.P.)
I’ve attached an excellent video from a competitor that gives you the harvest process:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzdQdH3W22w
¡Saludos cordiales desde Panquehue!
Sorry to bust your privilege balloon space there Chiqui, but the world won't be knowing any “normalcy and peace!” anytime soon as the countries of the English language are entering a black hole whirl pool of desperately defensive hostility paranoia. And when the ones with the biggest guns start going made inside a closed space, rest assured everyone else will harbor a growing pressure of restlessness.
Feb 07th, 2022 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse -3@ Trimonde, Still flogging the thread bare Argentine claims which as usual are LONG on words and SHORT on factual evidence, but Please do keep it up as I do Enjoy your Funny little story about some mythical Island and I expect Very Young Children also love this Fable that You Spin so Eloquently.
Feb 07th, 2022 - 03:43 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Sorry to have to re-post what I wrote to you before Chicster, but occasionally when one word gets mistyped a whole paragraph may not make sense.
Feb 07th, 2022 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse -2The world won't be knowing any “normalcy and peace” anytime soon, as the countries of the English language have more and more been entering a black hole whirlpool of desperately defensive hostile paranoia. ...And when those with the biggest guns in a room start going insane inside that closed circuit or space they share with others, which the Earth is, rest assured everyone else will increasingly harbor the growing pressure of restlessness.
@ Trimonde, There is an Old Chinese Saying that goes like this “When someone is Firing a BIG Gun in a SMALL room get Your Arse out of there”.!!
Feb 07th, 2022 - 04:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Capsice.
Dirk Dikkler.... I don't think you understood the metaphor, which is not analogous to your made up Chinese proverb. This world of ours is the beginning and the end for us, there is no outside world beyond “this room”. No powerful empire ever in history has ever managed to conquer so much of the planet as to achieve turning the world into even a semblance of what their righteous political criteria may have entailed for its citizens. All of them arrogantly expanded until meeting their eventual demise and collapse. In the best case scenarios subsequent civilizations inherited the better of them to some degree. But competing in order to win and beat others has never panned out in the civilization of man. When Nixon and Kissinger decided to invite China to cultivate a positive and productive relationship of openness to the West, there was not a glimmer of thought in China of seeking to attack invade or destroy the West, nor was there ever antagonism for the US in Russia, in the beginning. Those thoughts only stemmed from our two main English speaking societies, from our own belligerent imagination. Even to this day, we continue to be the aggressive ones in sheep clothing. There is only so much propagandist cultural badgering that a people can take, and yet they both continue to be patient. We have no business at all meddling in Ukraine or Taiwan, nor did we have any business meddling in Kuwait, Korea or Vietnam. We had no business trying to forge, pressure or manipulate any Latin American country to do or not do anything, when either of our two countries had ever been seen enemy for them. We simply did not want them to exercise their right and freedom to manifest their own destiny. 80% or 70 or 90 or however much of world military conflicts find their source and sparks in UK or US involvement somewhere, often not even involving military affairs, but just good all fashion abusive manipulative condescending events devoid of all respect for other nations.
Feb 07th, 2022 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse -2Dear Trimonde...
Feb 07th, 2022 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse -2- Let's hope that the Glorious Anglo Five Eyes soon becomes that myopic one-eyed paper dragon with four arseholes it truly deserves to be...
Dear Toribio...
You're such a breath of fresh rural air..., hermanito...
Speaking 'bout pastoralism ..., in these challenging H2O times..., haven't you ever tænk 'bout diversifying a bit and plant some hectares of Scornabeccus di Bronte up some of ya dry slopes...?
(Remember..., the males go ALWAYS on top..., capisce...? ;-)
hahahahahaha
Feb 07th, 2022 - 05:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Estimado Tænk
Feb 07th, 2022 - 06:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Any farmer can easily explain why many times is just as pleasurable in both positions…
Actually we now have two young pistachio trees planted — but it will take years to see any yields. We’re very pleased the excellent results of grafted stone fruit (specifically plums, pluots, plumcots and nectarines) to feed our gypsy hoard.
Despite the record drought conditions of the central Chile region — our family is blessed with an ample water rights margin to ensure our harvests.
This recent avocado planting utilizing the remanding terrain has exhausted any future planting.
We are anticipating the actual grape harvest to begin Monday 21 — depending on conditions.
¡Saludos cordiales desde Panquehue!
Wrong..., hermanito...
Feb 07th, 2022 - 06:50 pm - Link - Report abuse -1When being a male Scornabecco..., the top is THE place to release your gametes...
Capisce...?
Estimado Tænk
Feb 07th, 2022 - 07:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Obviously I’ve been preforming the pleasurable act from what best works best for us…
¡Saludos cordiales desde Panquehue!
“Water rights”? Precisely “water rights” is the problem. Water does not obey man made land distribution, ever since man stopped obeying them. Having “water rights” that are not organically and self sustainingly managed in a socially collective manner, does not seize depriving all other people outside your property of it.
Feb 07th, 2022 - 07:25 pm - Link - Report abuse -1‘a whole paragraph may not make sense’.
Feb 07th, 2022 - 09:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0An understatement, to say the least.
One rogue State, supporting another rogue State?
Feb 07th, 2022 - 10:52 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Hardly surprising, is it?
Geeeeeeeeeeeee...
Feb 07th, 2022 - 11:14 pm - Link - Report abuse -2- A probably corrupt Brummie ex-copper..., emigrated..., gone 99% native..., living hapilly under a South-east Asian military dictatorship is calling us others “Rogues”...?
That's what i call Chuzpah...!
Capisce...?
PUGOL (TTWH) — Tænk
Feb 07th, 2022 - 11:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We can watch the evening light being reflected by Aconcagua peak at nearly 7,000 m (23,000 ft) which is the highest peak outside of Asia.
My daughter and I are enjoying a pleasant evening on the farmhouse terrace with grilled sirloin steak and heirloom tomato salad from our own vegetable garden.
We’re sampling a marvelous ‘08 Toknar von Siebenthal Petit Verdot that was bottled at our next door neighbor’s winery. (One of my daughter’s selections slightly forgotten in our cellar.)
I’ve began reading one of my grandfather’s books: Two Years Before the Mast by the American author Richard Henry Dana Jr. originally published in 1840.
¡Saludos cordiales desde Panquehue!
Hapilly? What kind of word is that Think? You had a go at Roger the other day for misspelling a word.
Feb 08th, 2022 - 08:28 am - Link - Report abuse +2I don't think the UK does actually give a damn about who Argentina is friends with. What difference does it make? To ally itself with other dis-respecters of the UN Charter is par for the course.
“This recent avocado planting utilizing the remanding terrain has exhausted any future planting.”
Feb 08th, 2022 - 09:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Turns out the word avocado comes from the Aztec word āhuacatl, which means “testicle.” Boy does that explains a lot, along with your other claims.
It certainly explains why you talk a load of bollocks.
“The most common way narcissists create alternative narratives is by projecting. If they say that the other person is jealous of them, then you know that the narcissist is jealous. If they say that the other person was lying and cheating, they were the one lying and cheating. But more often than not whatever the narcissist is presenting the other person as is a much more accurate description of the narcissist. The mechanism here is that in the narcissists mind they try to attribute their own unhealthy behavior, perspective, and character traits to the other person because it shifts attention and responsibility from them. And if the other person is all these bad things, then it can’t be that I am these things thinks the narcissist I’m the good guy here.”
https://psychcentral.com/blog/psychology-self/2018/07/narcissist-delusion#2
Roget Lorton... China? “a rogue State”?? ROFLMAO China was writing its own history while you guys were running around in deer pelts and painting your faces blue! lol They were a technologically advanced nation while you had become slaves to the Romans! You are so absurd sometimes Roger. One can clearly see in your statements your societies utter insolent disrespect for the other nations of the world.
Feb 08th, 2022 - 10:23 am - Link - Report abuse -1-
Chicureo; It seems I'm finally getting your sense of humor (I think) I must say though your writing is lovely to read. Btw So really, are your saying your evening light is being beautifully reflected from Argentina's highest peak in the Americas?
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On a serious note, how about we talk about the significance of this article, instead of looking for opportunities to defame Argentina with off the shelf superfluous meaningless badgering. I would like to hear anyone comment on the inflammatory slanderous wordage of this title for example, because I'd really like to understand HOW IS IT that London should be worried about Argentina's friendship with China in light of the Ukraine crisis. I would thoroughly enjoy hearing what the writer believes to be the connection in that.
Does history even matter at this point? I am a firm believer of self determination of peoples and the right of Democratic freedom, stuff that China lacks completely.
Feb 08th, 2022 - 10:49 am - Link - Report abuse +2Before I get the standard “but Chagos” I perfectly accept the UN ruling and think the Chagos islanders should be returned, however the islanders once returned should be given a referendum on their own status on whether they actually want to be part of Mauritius.
Mr. FitzRoy...
Feb 08th, 2022 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse 0- Firstly..., I want to express my thanks & appreciation for your careful proof-reading and correction of any mistake(s) I may have incurred in my above humle scribblings..., so primitively written in a language very foreign to my genetics, upbringing and culture...
- Secondly..., when you say above..., in your native language...:
“To ally itself with other dis-respecters of the UN Charter is par for the course.”
- Are you referring to them thousands of Engrish “Alliances”..., the link below being just one of the many current examples...?
https://caat.org.uk/homepage/stop-arming-saudi-arabia/uk-arms-to-saudi-arabia/
Mr. Trimonde...
Hahahahahaha...
Just “Chagos” luv?? Is that the only instance in which your country has not respected the right of self determination of another country's people in your mind?? The list is endless, your country is a bully an enslaver and a thief, face it. Your country merely uses those “terms” in order to manipulate world public opinion.
Feb 08th, 2022 - 11:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0The defusing truth is usually the smallest and easiest explanation, but the largest most insurmountable rock for the brainwashed society to overcome.
Trimonde
Feb 08th, 2022 - 04:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry I missed your earlier kind compliment…
YES! On clear days we not only enjoy the Argentine Aconcagua summit from our farm — but also can observe it clearly from Viña del Mar —which proves just how narrow my country actually is…
¡Saludos cordiales desde Panquehue!
Your only ten years behind the times on the Chagossians issue.
Feb 08th, 2022 - 05:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As any further appeals to the courts after the ECHR is null and void as it is barred as being res judicata.
res judicata: a matter finally decided on its merits by a court having competent jurisdiction and not subject to litigation again between the same parties.
”The European Court of Human Rights has dismissed a case brought by Chagos Islanders claiming the right to return to their home in the Indian Ocean, bringing a long legal battle to a close.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/9758451/Chagos-Islanders-defeated-in-European-Court.html
Geeeeeeee....
Feb 08th, 2022 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse -1About the “Chagos Islands Issue” resurfaced above by Anglo Poster Zaczac121...:
1) It is evident that my above A.I. sockpuppet bot (Mario Girotti, aka Terence Hill) is in dire need of a new battery...:
https://www.icj-cij.org/en/case/169
2) It is also evident that “firm believer” Anglo poster Zazac121 above..., wiser after his many moral and ethic defeats on the hands of his own Anglo Governments..., has decided to swim with the current..., and fully support the Engrish Pirate Adventure in the South Atlantic...
Capisce...?
Since the UK had not consented, the court has no jurisdiction.
Feb 08th, 2022 - 08:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Britain rejects International Court of Justice order to return Chagos Islands to Mauritius
The ICJ’s ruling has no binding status. The British government, determined to hold onto its colonial possessions, has rejected both the ICJ’s order and its unanimous ruling that it has jurisdiction because it relates to a UN process of decolonization, not a dispute between two states.” by Jean Shaoul — 06/03/2019
“The UK’s initial reaction was resistance to the ICJ’s advisory function.
Sir Alan Duncan, Minister of State in the Foreign and Commonwealth Office, told Parliament:
“This is an inappropriate use of the ICJ advisory mechanism because it is an attempt to circumvent the principle that no state should be compelled to have its bilateral disputes submitted for judicial settlement without its consent, not least on matters of sovereignty. This is a matter for the UK and Mauritius to resolve bilaterally.”
http://www5.austlii.edu.au/au/journals/MelbJIL/2021/17.html
Despite what he exhibits publicly…
Feb 08th, 2022 - 08:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0…perhaps someone is indeed in dire need of a new battery...
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/8d91ccf1519967874cac08705a27b88da78ce175/2_0_3764_2259/master/3764.jpg?width=620&quality=45&auto=format&fit=max&dpr=2&s=6e8e21da5634053b4201921b1edb544b
¡Saludos cordiales desde Panquehue!
“The Fantasy Life of the Narcissist, Where Perception is More Important Than Truth
Feb 08th, 2022 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Narcissist is never at a loss for company and they purposely surround themselves with flying monkeys – people who give their unfaltering devotion and who jump to do their bidding. These flying monkeys make it easy for them to live in fantasy land. They believe their lies even when presented with the truth.“
https://esteemology.com/the-fantasy-life-of-the-narcissist-where-perception-is-more-important-than-truth/
BTW...
Feb 08th, 2022 - 09:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0TWIMC...
Interesting coincidence...:
- Just after “Zaczac”121 proteshted 'bout the possibility of gettting a standard “But Chagos”, I got todays “But Chagos” on me news-feed...
Some extracts...:
- “A Mauritian-chartered survey ship carrying Chagos Islanders exiled from their homeland by the UK government 50 years ago has left Seychelles bound for the British Indian Ocean Territory.”
- “Prof Philippe Sands QC, the leading lawyer retained by Mauritius, is onboard the Bleu De Nîmes vessel, as are journalists from the BBC, the Guardian, the Atlantic magazine and Mauritian media.”
- “Prof. Sands believes the UK’s hardline resistance is partially because it fears that handing over the BIOT would set a precedent for the loss of the Falklands and Gibraltar.”
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/08/mauritian-ship-takes-scientific-team-to-contested-chagos-islands#:~:text=By%20an%20overwhelming%20majority%2C%20the,granted%20Mauritius%20independence%20in%201968.
Good timing...,don't ya tænk...?
Estimado Tænk
Feb 08th, 2022 - 09:35 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Interesting that this issue is now appearing into the news…
…considering the North Americans are heavily involved in this makes it especially remarkable…
BTW the prior image “belly-flopped” and I resubmit the correct caped crusader… https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/8d91ccf1519967874cac08705a27b88da78ce175/2_0_3764_2259/master/3764.jpg?width=620&quality=45&auto=format&fit=max&dpr=2&s=6e8e21da5634053b4201921b1edb544b
¡Saludos cordiales desde Panquehue!
Interesting indeed..., Toribio...
Feb 08th, 2022 - 10:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Considering that the North Americans have just managed the almost impossible...
To catalyze a sustainable Sino-Russian alliance....
By the way..., captain..., just occurred me...
You were a cadet in 74..., you said...
Was it in Valpa...?
Estimado Tænk
Feb 08th, 2022 - 11:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wrong decade…
Actually I was a cadet during the war — when was a remarkable moment of my service. I received my commission after the conflict ended.
¡Saludos cordiales desde Panquehue!
Right...!
Feb 08th, 2022 - 11:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My wrong...
Glad you weren't...
Wonder what China will do when Argentina defaults on its loans?
Feb 09th, 2022 - 12:35 am - Link - Report abuse +1I also wonder, with China and Russia embedded in the South Cone, how long it will be before the USA looks for a base of its own? In the Falklands perhaps.
Just wondering, before would-be-Think throws a wobbly ;-)
The name is TÆNK..., copper...
Feb 09th, 2022 - 07:46 am - Link - Report abuse -1EL TÆNK...
B.T.W..., just for your kind info...
- The USA has already many a base of its own in the South Cone...
The public type in Colombia to protect their vital kuka strategical ressource..., for example...
Or the more privacy protected type in the Malvinas/Falklands under the registered “Auscannzukus”or Five-Eyes” trademark...
And don't you worry..., laddie...
I'm not mad at you..., I'm just dissapointed...
Capisce...?
“Prof. Sands believes would set a precedent for the loss of the Falklands and Gibraltar.”
Feb 09th, 2022 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0I don't think that the UK will pay much attention to such an erroneous speculative view.
“The UN’s international law of the sea tribunal ruled that the UK has no legitimate claims in the area”
The UK is on absolutely solid legal grounds, as the Islanders and Mauritius have already accepted financial compensation; it's a done deal.
TWIMC...
Feb 09th, 2022 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yesterdays Guardian's article on the revived “Chagos Islands Issue” clearly stated that...:
- “There appear to have been attempts to muzzle publicity about the voyage.” -
But..., after all of this...:
1) BBC NEWS https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9cGUdP2qVLw
2) www.lowyinstitute.org/the-interpreter/mauritius-sets-sail-chagos
3) www.africanews.com/2022/02/08/mauritius-announces-boat-expedition-to-the-disputed-chagos-islands//
4) www.rfi.fr/en/africa/20220209-mauritian-team-sails-to-maldives-to-survey-border-chagos-archipelago-rights
5) thediplomat.com/2022/02/mauritius-presses-claim-for-indian-ocean-islands-under-unlawful-uk-administration/
6) www.stripes.com/theaters/asia_pacific/2022-02-08/mauritius-sovereignty-chagos-islands-diego-garcia-military-base-4825763.html
7)www.seychellesnewsagency.com/articles/16266/Mauritius+to+lead+%27historic%27+trip+to+contested+islands+PM
8) www.pagina12.com.ar/400386-una-pequena-isla-africana-desafia-al-reino-unido-por-un-conf
9) www.arabnews.com/node/2020166/world
Etc...etc...,etc...
... one does wonder for how long MercoPress..., the Engrish South-Atlantic News Agency will keep its futile effort to muzzle this piece of news...?
Capisce...?
“The UK sent a note back saying they would not impede the voyage.
Feb 09th, 2022 - 12:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Maldives initially said it would have no problems with the trip but then informed Mauritius that it would exercise a right of veto over the delegation and made it clear that journalists would not be permitted. One can assume that the UK had a role in encouraging the Maldives to take steps to limit who participated.”
If we accept that assumption so what? No shit batman, countries follow policies of self-interest.
It could be worse; they could be like Argentinian and continually lie.
TWIMC...
Feb 09th, 2022 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Interesting” how that “firm believer of self determination of peoples and the right of Democratic freedom” poster from above..., Danish Mercian Anglo Zacsac121..., seems to have lost all interest in the plight of them good man fridays and Tarzans of the Chagos Isles ...
Capisce...?
I don’t read this site often for good reason, I don’t like arguing which is always what happens here. I don’t post here for people to insult me for stating a valid point of view, something I don’t think I’ve done here.
Feb 09th, 2022 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I just stated that people should be listened too instead of just demanding land over “historical claims” aren’t all humans equal in the 21st century? Why can’t the islanders be respected?
There’s no one who can “go back” to their homes in the Falklands as it had no natives, so why should the people who settled there generations ago simply be ignored for the sake of a bloody map?!
I’m honestly done with some of you people here, you preach bull like somehow you are “better” people who know what is best for the islanders despite living nowhere near the islands at all.
Geee
Feb 09th, 2022 - 08:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Lot of of Anglo indignation above.
As one of the two posters in here defending the Argie “Malvinas/Falklands Issue” position..., I'll respond to Zaczac 121's stated “VALID POINTS”.
Point 1: “I don’t post here for people to insult me”..., he says.
Me neither. If calling you an “Anglo” or a “Danish Mercian” really hurted, I'll take it back.
Point 2: “Why can’t the islanders be respected?”
Please educate yourself.
a) Them Kelpers have been respected by us since the Engrish ocupation beginning.
b) I can say that there is a greater number of individuals with Kelper lineage in Patagonia than in them Windblown Isles.
c) Even when our Brutal, Murderous Military Junta Armed Farces re-occupied them Isles..., no Kelper was killed, wounded, hurt or luxated an ankle.
Point 3: “Why should the people who settled there generations ago simply be ignored for the sake of a bloody map?!”
a) Them Kelpers were and are not being ignored by us Argentineans. Through history we have tried to negotiate us out of this Colonial Situation to no avail... The only response from the Engrish Crown an its Kelper sub-jects has been a haughty...: “BUGGER OFF”
b) The problem with the “Bloody Map” as you so Engrishly call it is that them ~2,000 Kelpers living there are used and misused by your Colonial Engrish Government as the excuse to claim some 10,000,000 km² of the Southern Hemisphere territory and ressources under the, by you Anglos recently discovered principle of “Self Determination of Peoples”.
Point 4: “You preach bull like somehow you are “better” people who know what is best for the islanders despite living nowhere near the islands at all.”
a) You just perfectly described the last 600 years of ANGLO history..., matey...!
b) I don't know what is best for them Kelpers, but I know we have an anachronical colonial problem in our hands that wil NOT be resolved with a Brutish “BUGGER OFF”.
c) Me humble Patagonian abode lays some 1.000 km from them Isles, how far is yours?
Capisce...?
Yep, would-be-Think threw a wobbly.
Feb 09th, 2022 - 11:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Columbia is too far north and, despite Argentina's paranoia, the Yanks are not in the Falklands.
Yet.
As for the Chagos, little Mauritius had the cojones to go to the ICJ. So why doesn't Argentina grow some?
But then, Argentinas new-found best mate, China, didn't like what the ICJ said about the South China Sea. And it is reported that Marcello Kohen has told Buenos Aires, that they wouldn't like the ICJ's decision either.
Respecting the Falklanders, requires respect for their right of self-determination.
Columbia...?
Feb 09th, 2022 - 11:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Is that close to Thuiland...?
Ya are getting auld..., copper...
Ain't we all.
Feb 10th, 2022 - 04:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Still, nowhere near Antarctica.
So.... no response about the ICJ then?
Juppp..., we all do...
Feb 10th, 2022 - 09:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Some faster than others..., though...
Careful with haughtines, laddie... It may mask the degrade...
Capisce...?
Seems the Chagossians themselves are not too thrilled at this expedition.
Feb 11th, 2022 - 04:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/climate-and-people/uk-accuses-mauritius-political-stunt-ecological-visit-disputed/
“This is an obscenely expensive vanity expedition carried out without proper consultation with the Chagossian community,” read a statement from Chagossian Voices.
“Many Chagossians are appalled that such a huge sum of money can be spent at a time of economic crisis and when Chagossians remain on the margins of Mauritian society. Chagossians are filled with dread at the prospect of the islands being handed to Mauritius.”
Mauritius has its own agenda in this and it does not include any consideration for the wishes or interests of the Chagossians.
Who can’t go home as the Islands are now only barely capable of supporting human habitation for a few people at most and then not for much longer.
With respect to the S. Atlantic, self-determination only applies in the Falklands and is not the basis for the British claim to the Falklands, history is, the British having the prior claim.
S. Georgia/S. Sandwich islands, British Antarctic Territory have no permanent populations so self-determination does not apply. These territories are also claimed on the basis of history, the British having the prior claim.
When the British arrived the region was uninhabited, unexplored and unclaimed. No indigenous populations were eliminated or deported.
Mauritius itself was barred from bringing suit, by her acquiescence.
Feb 12th, 2022 - 09:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”There is a general principle, in international law jurisprudence, that claims may be extinguished by the passage of time.
“The principle of extinctive prescription, the bar of claims by lapse of time, is recognized by international law. It has been applied by arbitration tribunals in a number of cases. ... Undue delay in presenting a claim, which may lead to it being barred, is to distinguished from effects of the passage of time on the merits of the claim in cases where the claimant state has, by failing to protest or otherwise, given evidence of acquiescence’”: I Oppenheim 526 and 527. See Cheng, General Principles of Law as Applied by International Courts and Tribunals (1953), Chap. 18; King, Prescription of Claims in International Law, (1934) 15 B.Y.I.L. 82. Cf. prescription, acquisitive.
The Gentini case PCA 1903...claims against Venezuela on the part of the Italian government on behalf of an Italian citizen alleging PAYMENT OF A DEBT THAT HAD ACCRUED THIRTY YEARS EARLIER.
“A stale claim does not become any less so because it happens to be an international one, and this tribunal, in dealing with it, cannot escape the obligation of a universally recognized principle simply because there happens to be no code of positive rules by which its action is to be governed.”
Accordingly, Gentini provides historical evidence that, … the PCA in 1903, identify that the applicability of a prescription period in international law. …
Gentini’s … law can be seen as that contributes to the modern understanding of the doctrine as based on (i) national law (a sense that finality is proper), (ii) a GENERAL PROPOSITION THAT FINALITY IS NECESSARY, and (iii) the ethical-moral precept that it is somehow wrong or negligent for a claim not to be asserted within an unspecified, and perhaps undefinable period of time.
https://commentary.canlii.org/w/canlii/2017CanLIIDocs397.pdf
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