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Controversy over empty bench in Argentine Congress representing Malvinas

Monday, March 7th 2022 - 09:55 UTC
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A “nutty” initiative, Tierra del Fuego governor Gustavo Melella described the proposal by several Argentine lawmakers to create in Congress a Malvinas Islands bench, which would remain empty covered with an Argentine flag until the legitimate occupier arrives, a symbolic sovereignty claim over the Islands 'usurped' by Great Britain. Read full article

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  • Tænk

    Absolutely correct...!

    Mar 07th, 2022 - 09:36 am - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Terence Hill

    The authentic legal determination is:
    ...“ October 16th,1975 The ICJ presents its advisory opinion on two questions concerning Western Sahara; “The validity of the principle of self-determination, defined as the need to pay regard to the freely expressed will of peoples, ...” The Court also states; “The Charter of the United Nations, in Article 1, paragraph 2, indicates, as one of the purposes of the United Nations: “To develop friendly relations among nations based on ...the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples . .” This purpose is further developed in Articles 55 and 56 of the Charter. ...the subsequent development of international law in regard to non-self-governing territories, as enshrined in the Charter of the United Nations, made the principle of self-determination applicable to all of them”
    Judge Dillard, .. adds; “ .. it is for the people to determine the destiny of the territory and not the territory the destiny of the people.”

    ”There is no obligation in general international law to settle disputes”.
    Principles of Public International Law, third edition, 1979 by Ian Brownlie

    Mar 07th, 2022 - 10:10 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • The English Pirate

    Now arguing about which version of “Fantasy Argie Colony Game” they are playing and who has the right version of insanity installed. They're all so barking that you could use them to gather sheep.

    Mar 07th, 2022 - 10:41 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Steve Potts

    'usurped' archipelago' Usurped in 1833 - what law was broken? Pray tell...

    Mar 07th, 2022 - 10:49 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Islander1

    Think,The only bit where one could possibly say you are correct is that these Islands never were part of Tierra del Fuego - these Islands were fully settled at least 2 generations before TDF became a province of yours.
    The first non indigenous to settle near what later became Ushuaia - went there from here.

    Mar 07th, 2022 - 11:13 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • downunder

    These people aren’t really serious about their claim to the Falklands, it’s just one stunt at a time. Even the Argentine President is unsure of the veracity of his countries claim .

    Mar 07th, 2022 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Tænk

    Timlander1...
    As you so well put it...
    Our past and future and are inexorably intertwined...
    Them Windblown Islands are *Ours...

    *(Ours..., as in Yours and Mine...)
    Capisce...?

    Mar 07th, 2022 - 01:04 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Judge Jose

    If their was one jot of evidence that said the islands were Argentinian they would have gone to the ICJ years ago, the fact is their is zilch, just utter and complete fantasy, just more drivel to ram down the throats of the indoctrinated.

    Mar 07th, 2022 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • FitzRoy

    This is hilarious. A seat to remind them of something that is not, has not ever and will not ever be theirs. I am pretty sure, having seen how things are going in Argentina, that there are far more important things for them to focus their minds on.
    Things are not so very different from 1979 - 82 in Argentina, except the Disappeared and the prospect of invasion.

    Mar 08th, 2022 - 10:23 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Tænk

    Geeeeeeeeeeeee...

    - What a magnificent example of Psychological Projection the above Brainwashed Anglo Turnip offers us...!

    - “Having seen how things are going in Argentina, that there are far more important things for them to focus their minds on.”..., he says...

    - Witnessing how things are going in Europe..., where the Anglosphere is doing its best to push Eurasia into their third so-called “World War” in a century..., there are far more important things for them Turnips to focus their minds on.”..., I say...

    Capisce...?

    Mar 08th, 2022 - 10:41 am - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Judge Jose

    Taenk, I normally find your posts quite amusing but your latest is raving bonkers,

    Putin is an evil power mad midget dictator who wants to recreate the Soviet Union, conquering countries that have no interest in being governed by Russia. It is him that has threatened to use nukes, Germanys,Poland, France etc are hardly Anglosphere countries who are at the forefront of standing up to the crazy midget dictator,

    Mar 08th, 2022 - 11:21 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Tænk

    Also sprach der Anglo Brainwashed Turnip...

    Mar 08th, 2022 - 11:54 am - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Judge Jose

    Pathetic response from Taenk. ,never personally attacked you just disagreed with your posts,
    Shows your have the mentality, of a Cabbage,

    Mar 08th, 2022 - 05:40 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Tænk

    Quoting an Anglo Brainwashed Turnip...:

    - I feel sorry for you José..., I am sure you are a decent guy.., but you have been fed a pack of lies regarding the UK from the day you were born...
    Brainwashed indoctrinated drivel...,wafel..., twisted facts and untruths...
    Go educate yourself...

    Capisce...?

    Mar 08th, 2022 - 06:12 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Judge Jose

    No Taenk, No one is brainwashed in the UK, the Falklands history is never even taught in schools .genuine research has to be done, Strange How French and Spanish historical records concur with the British, unlike Argentina were kids are bombarded with, from an early age.didnt an Austrian born German do a similar thing in the 1930s, The islands were not are not and never will be Argentinian, go educate yourself and stop living in la la land. Understand Cabbage,

    Mar 08th, 2022 - 06:26 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Tænk

    Also sprach der Anglo Brainwashed Turnip...
    Noch einmal...

    Mar 08th, 2022 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Judge Jose

    Indoctinated immature Argie cabbage.

    Mar 08th, 2022 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tænk

    TWIMC...

    - “No One Is Brainwashed In The UK”..., the Anglo Brainwashed Turnip above says...

    - Never been in any Country without a significant percentage of Brainwashed Turnips..., says I...

    - Also Sprach The Anglo Brainwashed Turnip above seems to Tænk that them UKistanis are some kind of Übermenschen...!

    What a Nietzschean Turnip...!

    Mar 08th, 2022 - 10:16 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Judge Jose

    What an embarrassing immature petulant child you have turned into,

    Mar 08th, 2022 - 10:22 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Roger Lorton

    JJ - that is Tunk, not Thunk.

    RIP Thunk (past tense, of course)

    Mar 09th, 2022 - 04:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tænk

    Ah..., Mr. Lorton..., me dear Brummie Ex-Copper...

    Four days 'ave gone and you haven't still been able to point were you “read” from me “About Russia Merely Holding Exercises on its Own Side of the Ukrainian Border and no Cause for Complaint...”

    - No surprise really... You Coppers are used to solve “problems” without evidence...
    That umpteenth porky of yours is perfectly in line with your “Timeline”...

    Capisce...?

    Mar 09th, 2022 - 08:24 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Swede

    Always amusing when the “malvinazis” fight each other. A “nutty initiative”, of course as so many others.

    Mar 09th, 2022 - 12:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tænk

    TWIMC...

    Continuing with my above thread...:
    ....................................................................... “”Witnessing how things are going in Europe..., where the Anglosphere is doing its best to push Eurasia into their third so-called “World War” in a century..., there are far more important things for them Anglo Brainwashed Turnips to focus their minds on.”“

    - I Tænk I will link to a newly posted..., bit disturbing video from one of me Scottish acquaintances who..., undoubtely will be branded as an Anglo Brainwashed Turnip by them Anglo Brainwashed Turnips..., ruining the theory of the above Anglo Brainwashed Turnip ”José“ about ”No One (being) Brainwashed In the UK”...:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LJp9yuPZdbE

    Capisce...?

    Mar 09th, 2022 - 01:07 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Zaczac121

    Stop calling us brainwashed… We’ve told you we don’t learn about the Falklands in school because it’s not important, most of us are self-read on the Falklands issue…

    Unless you are calling us brainwashed because we actually believe in Democracy…

    Mar 09th, 2022 - 01:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tænk

    Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.....

    Them Anglo Übermenschen seem to believe that brainwash only happens at school...!

    Them poor little Anglo Brainwashed sausages...

    Chuckle chuckle...

    Mar 09th, 2022 - 01:48 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Zaczac121

    I’m far from a superman Taenk… Stop saying Nazi terms in a thinly veiled attempt at somehow insulting us when we weren’t the country taking in fleeing SS (Argentina takes that honour, atleast the US did it secretly with Operation Paperclip)

    Mar 09th, 2022 - 07:56 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Tænk

    Mr. Zaczac121...
    - “Stop saying Nazi terms”...you ask me to...
    - And what “Nazi Terms” would those be..., if I may ask...?

    For your kind info...:
    -“Der Übermensch” is a concept created by a young Saxon called Friedrich Nietzsche around 1883 whilst hiking some of my backyard paths on the Ligurean Tigullio....
    Herr Nietzsche died in 1900..., some decades before the eclosion of Nazism...

    As I have told you before..., laddie...
    Please educate yourself...
    Capisce...

    Mar 09th, 2022 - 08:42 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Zaczac121

    You know very well that a core part of Nazi propaganda was the propagation of Germans as “ubermensch” (can’t be bothered to do the weird German U) just because it was created years before the Nazis doesn’t mean that they couldn’t take the idea and actually roll with it.

    You are literally the only person who argues about Nazi terms as if it makes it okay that it can be used by you, well news flash:

    Don’t use it you twat. You come across as an unironic Nazi sympathiser which isn’t the best looks to have.

    Mar 09th, 2022 - 11:41 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Tænk

    Uneducated, monolingual brainwashed Anglo Turnip who Tænks that by breaking Godwin's Law he can hide his ignorance...

    Have a nice life...

    Mar 09th, 2022 - 11:56 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Zaczac121

    Insulting me and calling me uneducated isn’t the way to win a debate… But I am monolingual, that’s correct.

    Just because I call you out for using a Nazi phrase doesn’t mean I am uneducated at all. Its of low character to insult someone who has a clearly different world view.

    Mar 10th, 2022 - 08:32 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Trimonde

    I think it makes a lot of sense. Imagine Vernet's settlement never being attacked by the Americans, and the British accepting the sensible notion that the islands ought to belong to the new Argentine nation, rather than continue trying to forge their logistical military presence on the other of the world from them, where there were no colonies or territories belonging to them anywhere near. The islands would've continued on the path of steady progress Vernet had started, with a growing sense of achievement whilst under the Argentine flag, resulting in a independent sentiment not so different to how all the other provinces came to be. It makes sense, just like it makes sense that Tierra del Fuego is its own province. It's most likely what would've resulted, had the British been respectful and sensible knowing how to cut their loses when something else surpasses their plans or their own rights as in this case. Instead they egocentrically exploited the fact that the Argentinians would not be able to fend them off. It was just too tempting for them put their boot on top of another easy conquest and pick up another easy self adulating trinket to place under their belt, even thought in truth it made no geopolitical sense at the time or even in the long run, as the dormant ensuing 150 years would prove. The British gave in to their lesser lust for feeling they can beat someone and not let a weaker nation have something when they could easily take it from them. That's really what has always been behind it at the motivational level. It's like even today they never stop taking the islands in order to feed some need to feel victorious. Quite pathetic when you think about it; we're talking about a a much smaller country that never cared to be militarily menacing in any way, seeking always to be Britain's friend, stupidly enough. Anyways, I think it's the right idea, I never agreed with them being included in TdF, just like I think naming Stanley Puerto Argentino makes no sense.

    Mar 10th, 2022 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Pugol-H

    I’ll say it again ‘You, have no idea how or what we think’, or what motivates us.

    Perhaps a glance in the mirror!

    Mar 10th, 2022 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Trimonde

    Those who want more among others, are naturally a lot more transparent to the observation of the wise, than the average majority. And BABY, I think we can all agree on the fact that the UK and US “want” a lot more of the world, than the average rest does. When it comes to Britain and the Islanders, their actions could not be more revealing of their motivation and intentions. Sorry... you may try to hide your reasons through apparent normality, but you are move obvious than a blue sheep. Your policies towards the islands are practically a defensive profile of affirmation and advances directly drawn from reacting to everything Argentina says and does about the islands or Antarctica and the South Atlantic. It's like your bullying social characteristic must always have an enemy to focus on in order to kick into action. It's quite amusing. The jealous insolent soreness of the world, making it 10 times harder for the rest of its nations to near a future of peace, always ready to move into position at the drop of a dime. The planet needs you to be gone. Word!

    Mar 10th, 2022 - 05:42 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Terence Hill

    “Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain

    Mar 10th, 2022 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Zaczac121

    Trimonde is being way more civil than Taenk is right now, which is a pleasant surprise…

    Tbh I don’t think anyone can be less civil than Taenk with his Nazi talk

    Mar 10th, 2022 - 06:59 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Pugol-H

    TiTMonde
    The S. Atlantic/Antarctic have been British territory since before Argentina ever existed, in any form, this is a fact.

    Of course we are going to defend them, they are ours. Capisce...?

    I’ll say it yet again ‘You, have no idea how or what we think’, or what motivates us, or our intentions.

    As for ‘blue sheep’, well, ‘you cannot depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus (Mark Twain)’, or brain whacked out.

    And tomorrow, they (the sheep), will probably be Pink anyway!

    Zaczac121
    Replacement Stink is doing it to wind you up, it is what he does, ‘civil’ he does not do.

    Mar 10th, 2022 - 08:47 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Trimonde

    It's pretty ridiculous that in a world suffering hunger poverty and endless wars, the British feel they can claim as theirs inhospitable areas we will never be able to permanently settle, half a world away where they don't even live in, on a planet 7 billion people must equally share simply because they take pride in the defiance and challenge of it, when they already are disproportionately using, destroying and polluting more than the majority of all other countries do. And when I say “destroying” I do mean politically and physically fueling wars and manufacturing arms and weapons for the the rest to destroy each other with. A real global cancer if you ask me whose disappearance could only bring a sigh of relief to us all. At least Argentina and Chile are closer to Antarctica than any other country in the world is, if anything it makes much more sense at a self sustainability and ecological level that these are the two countries with more right to accessing and making use of these lands.
    These stupid people actually believe that because they sent a ship with a bunch of explorers and had their Queen declare ownership of this polar territory, their right supersedes the sensibility of sharing a world among all of humanity. This is nothing but the illness that a monarchical system installs in the minds of a society which though is living in the 21 century still believes they are some great empire or kingdom in a medieval fantasy world, convinced that their glorious right reigns supreme above the rest of us in the world. The world is getting smaller while their heads are getting larger. This can only spell one tragic outcome, ultimately... something will give, and after that, the world will be so much more comfortable.

    Mar 10th, 2022 - 09:51 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Terence Hill

    “Their right supersedes the sensibility of sharing a world among all of humanity.”
    Losers don’t get to dictate the peace terms.

    Mar 11th, 2022 - 10:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tænk

    TWIMC...

    Also sprach noch ein Anglo Brainwashed Turnip...!

    (I Tænk that most of them Auto-Perceived Anglo Übermenschen posting in here worship the Anglo-Exceptionalism deity...)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_exceptionalism#:~:text=American%20exceptionalism%20is%20the%20idea,inherently%20different%20from%20other%20nations.

    Capisce...?

    Mar 11th, 2022 - 01:02 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Trimonde

    Terence Hill you complete idiot, I was talking about the ridiculousness of Britain believing its Queen has the right to declare Antarctica her own property. Why are you all so desperate to own property?? Small dick complex perhaps???

    Mar 11th, 2022 - 04:37 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Pugol-H

    TiTMonde
    It's pretty ridiculous that the implanted population in Argentina, coming from half a world away, then try and tell the British that they have no right to be in the S. Atlantic/Antarctic, which when the British arrived was uninhabited, unexplored and unclaimed, unlike S. America.

    Yes, the British discovered then explored then claimed their Antarctic Territory.

    Whereas Argentinians sat in an office in BA, about a hundred years later, looking at a British map and drew some lines on it.

    And if you look on a map, you will see that it is British Territory in the S. Atlantic that is closer to Antarctica than any other country in the world

    And you talk about a ‘fantasy world’?

    Mate, you’re in it.

    Mar 11th, 2022 - 04:53 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Terence Hill

    “Terence Hill you complete idiot”

    Ah your humble opinion again, you continue to show us how completely unsuccessful that strategy is.

    Mar 12th, 2022 - 11:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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