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Argentina publishes easy-read guide on Malvinas for “adequate reporting and avoiding inaccuracies”
Argentina's Public Defender's Office set out a booklet with a list of recommendations for the “adequate treatment by media” of issues linked to the sovereignty dispute over the Falklands/Malvinas, South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands, and adjoining maritime spaces with the purpose of avoiding “inaccuracies towards audiences”. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesMy goodness Argentina is becoming ever increasingly frustrated about those telling the truth so they had to write a guide for the already indoctrinated to make sure their brain washing continues to be effective.
Mar 17th, 2022 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse +6The facts are that Argentina cannot provide actual legal proof of ever owning the islands.
It is merely a claim to own them.
You would think that the Falkland islands is the most important subject in Argentina at a time when their economy is failing and they are struggling to repay a massive foreign debt.
They have almost half their people living in or very close to the poverty line.
Their currency is worthless.
Their government is a criminal to it's own people.
But the best part is that Argentina has a history of land grabbing that they dont like you talking about. Often saying it is not relevant to the Falklands issue.
Truth is it is very relevant because the whole of Argentina was built on ethnic cleansing land grabbing.
We on the Falklands have been the only territory they have been so far unsuccessful in land grabbing though they have tried several times and failed.
This booklet is just another way of enforcing their lie.
Genuine Argentines will see it in exactly the same way.
It is clear that the people of the islands and others are getting their messages out and Argentina knows they are being rumbled.
A.K.A - The Idiots Guide to Argentine propaganda.
Mar 17th, 2022 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse +6“the constitutional acknowledgement of the claim, because it is a case of usurpation and colonial status; information about an alleged self determination in a people that have been implanted...''
Mar 17th, 2022 - 11:27 am - Link - Report abuse +4'Usurpation'' in 1833 - what law was broken?
So the Argentinians claim that the Falkland Islanders are 'implanted' and not entitled to self-determination true or false?
Falklands – Implanted Population (1 page):
https://www.academia.edu/30505159/Falklands_Implanted_Population
”Errors identified as the most common have to do with “the constitutional acknowledgement of the claim, because it is a case of usurpation and colonial status; information about an alleged self determination in a people that have been implanted;
Mar 17th, 2022 - 11:44 am - Link - Report abuse +3True for Patagonia
Not true for the Falklands
The Argentine government issues a “guide” with “recommendations” to the media. It is of course a way to suppress other opinions. What happens if the the “recommendations” are not followed?
Mar 17th, 2022 - 11:47 am - Link - Report abuse +4The narrative of “the islands are Argentine, they were stolen therefore anything after that is not relevant” has been allowed to stand.
Mar 17th, 2022 - 12:05 pm - Link - Report abuse +5As each reason given as to why they were Argentine have been comprehensively dismantled, but all that happens is the next fantasy is restated.
There was no inheritance from Spain..any more than Argentina inherited Uruguay from Spain
There was no Argentine community under Vernet it was a business, for most of the time under Brisbane
There as no Argentine community under Mestevier it was a mutiny, a rape and murder for 10 weeks.
of course none of that is in the easy read guide.
By definition, any population that today exists on an uninhabited island is “implanted”
Indoctrination at its finest, Unfortunately the general public in Argentina cant see that,
Mar 17th, 2022 - 12:13 pm - Link - Report abuse +6Sounds like chummy Putin has been giving advice about the freedom of the Press.
Mar 17th, 2022 - 03:53 pm - Link - Report abuse +4They are keen to point out “ something that many ignore and which is that Malvinas belong to the province of Tierra del Fuego”.
Mar 17th, 2022 - 05:05 pm - Link - Report abuse +4Maybe not so keen to point out that “ this territory remained under indigenous control until the nation's campaign known as the Conquest of the Desert in the 1870s [i.e. the murdering of at least 1,000 of the rightful inhabitants], after which Argentina organised this section in 1885 as a territory”, and that it only became a sub-prefecture in 1884, and not a province until 1990.
In 1833, the Falkland Islands were almost 1000 miles from the Southern border of Argentina.
Once again - if the taking of 1000 miles of territory by lethal force in 1870 was acceptable, then so was the bloodless removal of a temporary occupation of fewer than 50 intruders in 1833.
If the events of 1833 were not acceptable, then it is also time that 1000 miles of Argentina was given back to the rightful owners.
We are pound shop nazis with a fetish for being dominated by pirates.
Mar 17th, 2022 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Wouldn't know a fact if it bit us.
Relax and convey your positive energy against the inhumane monstrous enemy of today..., me dear brainwashed Anglo Turnips...
Mar 17th, 2022 - 06:42 pm - Link - Report abuse -12https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=skbBs00H3AY&list=WL&index=8
Capisce...?
Argentina in 1810? Really? I guess it must be a typographical error. I have a copy of this wonderful document. It is a thing of wonder. I hope they bring it out at the next bash at the UN, or, better still, when they take their claim to the ICJ. It will make pleasant, light reading. How much did it cost? And how will they get their re-naming of key places ratified? I look forward, but I am not holding my breath!
Mar 17th, 2022 - 07:29 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Is it any wonder that no one can take Argentina seriously?
Mar 17th, 2022 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Argentina needs to remove its implanted population from Tierra del Fuego and decolonise the place.
On Monday March 20th they have to implement with the IMF a minute by minute emergency plan/ tactic/ procedure to avoid Argentina going in to default and they come up with this!
Mar 17th, 2022 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse +2They are sad “that very few know what happened before the usurpation”.
Mar 17th, 2022 - 08:00 pm - Link - Report abuse +4Its relatively straightforward. Argentina knew there were competing claims for the islands, they knew that the Vernet business had all but failed and that Matthew Brisbane, a Scot was currently managing the business on the island.
So Argentina decided to cement its claim for the islands.
They designated E.Mestevier the Governor of the islands and he set sail on the SS Sarandi which had a crew of 26 soldiers and their families.
He arrived on the islands on October 6th 1832 and claimed the islands for Argentina.
You could absolutely claim, at that moment on October 6th 1832, Mestevier was an authorised governor of Argentina on the islands.
Unfortunately, Mestevier was murdered by the crew of the Sarandi, his wife was raped in front of their children, leaving no Argentine governor.
Britain, who had a conflicting claim arrived on the Islands on the 2nd January 1833 and peacefully ordered the murderers and rapists off the islands. They had been there less than 3 months.
I wonder if this actual history is the one the Argentine government want people to know?
1810? Declaring for the Spanish King was hardly a declaration of independence. I suspect that it's there to try and get around the embarrassing reality that Spain only claimed one island in 1811. Rather confirming that Spain had recognised British possession of the western islands in 1771. Oops, there goes another rubber tree plant ;-)
Mar 17th, 2022 - 10:40 pm - Link - Report abuse +4https://falklandstimeline.files.wordpress.com/2021/02/1775-to-1815.pdf
As for the rest, it's all a bit ....... thin
Of course, because everyone in the world who does not understand the “correct and accurate” English explanation for every singly affair that involves one of its countries are completely backward idiots, invasive bullies, or undemocratic dictatorships, their dumb people needing to be told what everything is really about. Isn't that right? ... You lying cheating sacks of shit.
Mar 18th, 2022 - 08:36 pm - Link - Report abuse -9TWIMC...
Mar 18th, 2022 - 11:10 pm - Link - Report abuse -8Relax..., enjoy and get inspired on how to improve your argumentative skills..., me dear brainwashed Anglo Turnips...:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ohDB5gbtaEQ
Chuckle..., chuckle...
Trimonde
Mar 19th, 2022 - 08:46 am - Link - Report abuse +5What would you call the Argentine attack in 1982?
“undemocratic dictatorship”
“invasive bully”
“backward idiots”
“lying cheating sacks of shit”
900 people died because of Argentina's false version of events between 1824 and 1833.
So yes, we are sensitive that the lies you spew.
Crymonde, what a bitter little man you are, spewing hatred and garbage, seek help.
Mar 19th, 2022 - 09:03 am - Link - Report abuse +3Mr. Trimonde...
Mar 19th, 2022 - 05:57 pm - Link - Report abuse -5- I Tænk that our Anglo Brainwashed Turnips astute point is...:
- Anglosphere's bombs bring freedom & democracy to the “collateral damaged” dead bodies...
- Anyone else's bombs bring destruction & dead to the genocided innocent dead bodies...
Capisce...?
Monkeymagic, forget about “Trimonde”, he is far beyond reach, doesn't even know that all of Patagonia south of Bahia Blanca was robbed at gun point in Julio A(sesino) Roca in the 1878 genocide, that the provinces Chaco, Formosa and Misiones were robbed at gun point from Paraguay in 1870, and that all of the rest of Argentina was robbed at gun point from Spain in 1816.
Mar 19th, 2022 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse +5Don Alberto. Patagonia was conquered by Argentine Europeans in the exact same way Europeans and all other cultures have been warring invading and conquering the world left and right for centuries, with the different we evolve and change the form of doing so, as we see today our newest war caused by clever Americans in the same ol' British tradition of offending and insulting with sneaky “social and business encroachments” until people loose the plot and they get the war they so much wanted. No human has more right to be entitled a higher degree of sovereignty just because English speaking racist ideologs have decided to identify a “native original population” (of primitive people, right?) Brazil, America and the rest of the modern world was repopulated identically the way the old world was. So take you clever prejudiced aggression strategies and shove them up your ass. Huh? How about that?
Mar 20th, 2022 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse -10.
Monkeybullshit; I'll tell you how I have always “called it”. I've always called it for what it is. An occupying Junta's desperate attempt to hold on to power in hopes they were in time to change their future reputation, completely fooled by the clever American/NATO British strategy of giving them enough rope and false sense of tolerance to hang themselves with. Which means those nine hundred people was the cost the US and Britain were willing to sacrifice to have the war they wanted and needed to have happen on the islands. That was was not caused by Argentina, who has always been under the phony understanding that the UN considers it a territorial sovereignty dispute. One need only to listen to the language used by Britain and the English language in general, during that time to understand it was a military conflict they turned into a one sided war full out war before the landing even took place, as today we have much evidence of many things Britain and America did in order to prepared themselves before acting like they were “shocked by the news”. Lying cheating sacks of shit.
1870 is an awfully close time, this was the year the Argies genocided the natives of Patagonia (Unlike the US which genocided in the 1700s) the British population on the Falklands was already established by this point in time…
Mar 20th, 2022 - 03:05 pm - Link - Report abuse +2TiTMonde
Mar 20th, 2022 - 03:34 pm - Link - Report abuse +2So, Patagonia was conquered by Argy Planters, but that was OK everyone was doing it.
Britain and the US have taunted Putin into invading Ukraine.
As they lured the Argy Junta into invading the Falklands.
‘Argentina, who has always been under the phony understanding that the UN considers it a territorial sovereignty dispute’.
Not what MalviNazis usually say, I must say.
Saving the best till last, following the unprovoked and dastardly invasion by Argentina, an act that will live in infamy (infamy, infamy they’ve all got it infamy), the British used err, Bad Language no less, to turn a military conflict into a one sided war.
A whole new meaning to the term ‘ClusterF*ck’, then!
Trimonde, you sure do talk a whole lot of bull. Trying to even sugest that Britain made the war before even the invasion is a new one.
Mar 20th, 2022 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse +5Who educated you. Oh I keep forgetting you are one of the indoctrinate ones. You only function when your buttons are pushed in the right places.
You come accross as someone who has never come to terms with the fact the Argentine invading forces were denied the chance to steal yet more territory.
After all the Argentine history is one of human greed and terrorism towards another.
That is how you managed to expand the length of South America.
You are a part of a history of ethnic cleansing.
Your country had no legal right to attempt to establish themselves on the falkland islands back in the 1830's any more than the right to attempt by an aggressive invasion on 1982.
That was an act against a peaceful people and Argentina should have been more punished than it was.
Your country is responsible for the disappearance of tens of thousands of your own people and you can be sure in a short time would have had every native falkland islander disposed of.
Your country is the lowest of the low.
Almost half your people now live in poverty another crime against humanity.
One day these good people will rise up and put down the government of destruction once and for all.
They are living through far worse conditions than you attempt to make out the Falkland islands people are.
Time you got down of your hate box and started doing right by the impoverished people your country have created.
Trimonde you are hilarious.
Mar 20th, 2022 - 06:32 pm - Link - Report abuse +4Are you familiar with the works of Shaggy “it wasnt me”
Invaded Patagonia (it wasnt me).......that was the “European Argentines”
Invaded the Falklands (it wasn't me) ...“that was the Occupying Junta Argentines”
Invaded the Falklands (it wasn't me)....“we were tricked by the British”
In one hilarious rant you managed to blame everyone but yourself...the UN made you think there was a sovereignty dispute, the US tricked you into the war, but it wasnt you anyway it was the Junta, and Britain wanted to travel half way round the world to lose 250 men.
If it wasn't so funny, it would be tragic.
Or how about this, Argentina is built of colonialism, the Latino population is 97% implanted, they continued the colonialism through Patagonia...and it irritates your sense of inferiority to “The Anglos” that the Falkalnds are, and will remain British.
The claim has nothing to do with Vernet, or Mestevier or an imagined usurpation. It has only to do with your racist hatred of the British, and a corner of the South Atlantic which has prosperity and no corruption. You hate the islanders for being more successful than you.
So, YOU if you could would at best evict them, and at worst murder them if you could...because you want to show the British or the Anglos that you are better.....when of course all the Malvinas myth does is show you as far worse.
Leave them in peace, the islands are not, have never been, and never will be Argentine...and if they were, Argentina would still be the same failed, corrupt, bankrupt Peronist cesspit that it is today....until the Argentine people want it to change.
Truly you guys amuse the shit out of me. A British person... having the nerve to judge others about conquest, robbing land or genocide is just a dumbfounding priceless moment. Please can any of you explain the difference to how your people deposed the natives of the East Coast in North America? Took Australia and New Zealand from their native populations? The United States robbed half its territory from the Mexicans? The English have not given the Irish peace in something insane like 500 years or more, and yet LOL ... LOL LOL ... you talk about the Argentinians moving aside a hand full of angry violent primitive people in Patagonia as if it were the friggin holocaust. What drugs in everyone on here!!? Maybe you're all just desperate to find things you can pin on Argentina, embarrased when you ponder on the contrasting difference to a country that actively has worked so industriously at keeping the world fighting or at war from three centuries already. Argentina does not arm anyone or encourage anyone to attack war or kill others nor much less their own people, like Britain and America do. Is that what you hate having to face? That you are the smelly Satans of the planet?
Mar 20th, 2022 - 07:39 pm - Link - Report abuse -7As far as the war Britain made sure happened on the islands; do you actually think I made that up? No, a read material, I watched university presentations, listened to others discuss it on social networks. I use my mind freely to educate myself with 200 years of events that draw a perfectly comprehensive picture. While you, all you do is look for the right sounding defensive sentences on the spot, and repeat like brainwashed monkeys everything you are supposed to think of the world and its countries, to the letter.
“The UN considers it a territorial sovereignty dispute”
Mar 20th, 2022 - 07:45 pm - Link - Report abuse +2If they do they’re in the wrong business, as no such legal claim is available to Argentina.
“There is a general principle, in international law jurisprudence, that claims may be extinguished by the passage of time.
“The principle of extinctive prescription, the bar of claims by lapse of time, is recognized by international law. It has been applied by arbitration tribunals in a number of cases. ...
The Gentini case PCA 1903...claims against Venezuela on the part of the Italian government on behalf of an Italian citizen alleging PAYMENT OF A DEBT THAT HAD ACCRUED THIRTY YEARS EARLIER.
”A stale claim does not become any less so because it happens to be an international one, and this tribunal, in dealing with it, cannot escape the obligation of a universally recognized principle simply because there happens to be no code of positive rules by which its action is to be governed.”
Accordingly, Gentini provides historical evidence that, … the PCA(Permanent Court of Arbitration in 1903, identify that the applicability of a prescription period in international law. …
Gentini’s … law can be seen as that contributes to the modern understanding of the doctrine as based on (i) national law (a sense that finality is proper), (ii) a GENERAL PROPOSITION THAT FINALITY IS NECESSARY, and (iii) the ethical-moral precept that it is somehow wrong or negligent for a claim not to be asserted within an unspecified, and perhaps undefinable period of time.
https://commentary.canlii.org/w/canlii/2017CanLIIDocs397.pdf
So there we have it in your own words Trimonde - “you talk about the Argentinians moving aside a hand full of angry violent primitive people in Patagonia as if it were the friggin holocaust”. So you obviously think that the Conquest of the Desert, and the murdering of the existing inhabitants of Patagonia, was no big deal.
Mar 20th, 2022 - 08:11 pm - Link - Report abuse +4So why do you think the bloodless removal of fewer than 50 people who had been in the islands barely 3 months was such a big deal that you are still bleating about it nearly two hundred years later.
‘…a handful of violent angry primitive people…’
Mar 20th, 2022 - 08:21 pm - Link - Report abuse +2“As far as the war Britain made sure happened on the islands … ; do you actually think I made that up? No, a read material,”
Mar 20th, 2022 - 08:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh, we were lulled into a false sense of security, it’s the British fault.
Give your head a shake, it was your Junta that was solely responsible for breach of the peace.
It must have been an awful time when the people from Junta were in charge. How did they get there? Fancy doing all of those things against the will of Argentines.
Mar 20th, 2022 - 08:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0‘…a handful of haughty, violent, sexually frustrated, primitive people…’
Mar 20th, 2022 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse -2Juppp..., you just nailed the Brutish Turnips essence..., Mr. Jo Bloggs...
It must have been an awful time when the people from Junta were in charge. How did they get there? Fancy doing all of those things against the will of Argentines.
Mar 20th, 2022 - 08:36 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Trimonde
Mar 20th, 2022 - 08:44 pm - Link - Report abuse +4You cannot see the irony of your own post
“Argentina moves a handful of violent angry primitive people”
“Britain made us attack the islands”
I will tell you what you did Tremonde...you went into an echo chamber and decided to believe what you wanted to hear.
You say 200 years of history.
190 years of those are the islanders trying to live in peace.
10 weeks of them were Mestevier and the crew of the SS Sarandi murdering and raping each other
The first 6 years the islands are empty
Then of the 3-4 remaining years Vernet ran his business for 2 years, left the islands voluntarily leaving the British Matthew Brisbane in charge.
The United States “stole” half its territory off the Mexicans is another funny one...had a good laugh at that.
So yes Trimonde, your racism does see us as the Satans of the earth, which is why wou despise 3000 islanders so much, and how you are so impotent and unable to remove them from land you idiotically believe is yours.
Like I say...Argentina going from 6th richest country in the world to poverty striken mess....someone else tricked us
Argentina attacking the Falklands....someone else tricked us
Argentina defaulting to the IMF......someone else tricked us
Argentina continually voting in Peronist corrupt gangsters....we were tricked
hahaha!
“What sovereignty???” The one you don’t have a claim to.
Mar 20th, 2022 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse +1'A State which has ceased to exercise any authority over a territory cannot, by purely verbal protestations, indefinitely maintain its title against another which for a sufficiently long time has effectively exercised the powers and fulfilled the duties of sovereignty in it.''(Theory and Reality in International Law, de Visscher, 1957, p201).
“Where a State fails to lodge effective protests, which in the present era ought, if necessary, to include instituting international judicial or arbitral proceedings, against attempts at wrongful usurpation into sovereign territory, that …failure to protest, where a protest is called for, must have a detrimental effect on the position of the party concerned and may afford evidence of non-existence of title.”
Gerald Fitzmaurice, The Law and Procedure of the International Court of Justice, Vol.1 (1995), 299.
Sir Gerald Gray Fitzmaurice GCMG QC
Don't confuse Trimonde with the law.
Mar 20th, 2022 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse +4He wants the islands because he hates the British.
He hates the British for all/any reason, because the British Empire was bigger than the Spanish, because the British peacefully gave up most of its Empire, because the islanders make him feel impotent and Mrs Trimonde wants a baby......
who knows...his rants are hilarious though!
Trimonde?
Mar 20th, 2022 - 11:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just Pat 'the Rat' Regini.
A true blooded ....... Italian
“To anyone that reads this thread. “Trimonde” is a man called Patrick Regini, a known Class A drug user, homophobe and racist. This man racially abused native Hawaiians until they attacked him and forced him to leave Hawaii, he claims the natives are fat, lazy and greasy. He also has a criminal conviction for attacking his own mother.”
Mar 21st, 2022 - 01:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0This is his facebook profile https://www.facebook.com/patrick.regini
https ://en.mercopress.com/2019/09/07/sao-paulo-falklands-link-very-positive-and-will-help-build-bridges-for-sovereignty-negotiations/comments#comment503809
Hahahaha...It's so hilarious to see how you believe you're attempts at character assassination with lies will stick, when instead they are a total embarrassment to your country. ... So much for the famed bullshit “British ethical character”! lol You rats are just a pathetic and desperate pack of lying cheating rats.
Mar 21st, 2022 - 06:44 am - Link - Report abuse -4“You're attempts at character assassination with lies you believe will stick”
Mar 21st, 2022 - 09:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0I’m just showing what was claimed, that you didn’t deny at the time. The only issue that I can see isn’t true from your own writing. Is that you definitely aren’t homophobic, but you are Patrick Regini.
No one needs to attempt a character assassination of you Cry monde, you have done plenty of that to yourself with all your hate filled racist nasty garbage that you spew out, seriously you need some help.
Mar 21st, 2022 - 09:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0He thinks Argentina has a right to the islands, but actually cant work out why.
Mar 21st, 2022 - 09:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0There is no inheritance from Spain
The Vernet community failed and he left
Mestevier was murdered by his own crew
The islanders have been there 180 years.
Even if 10,000 Argentines had been evicted in 1833 the case would be dubious.....but there was no evictions, no usurpation, just fairy stories and a massive inferiority complex.
If Trimonde is the best the Malvinistas have, the islanders can sleep easy. Keyboard warrior..
Trimonde. You sure have convinced yourself the the rest of the world is all evil and that only Argentina is the better.
Mar 21st, 2022 - 10:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0If that is so and true could you care to enlighten the evil world not only of your appalling history of ethnic cleansing but your more recent history of where your country went from being the sixth richest to the now poorest. Could you explain why that happened. Could you explain the tens of thousands of your own dissapeared. Could you explain why you had to borrow international money.
Could you explain why you cant pay it back.
Could you explain why half of your fellow countrymen women and children are now living in poverty.
Could you explain in what you claim as Argentinas democracy you keep electing such vile governments that are syphoning away the money your country dont have.
Could you also explain why your country invaded a peaceful neighbour called chile to grab more land.
Then can you please explain why it was necessary to invade the Falklands knowing it would cause loss of life and turning more of the world against you.
Find the answers to these questions and you may even learn the truth about yourself.
Don't worry..., Trimonde...
Mar 21st, 2022 - 10:52 am - Link - Report abuse -2Them Anglo Brainwashed Turnips in here at MercoPress have “branded” the humble Patagonian Argie writing this lines in many different ways...
From adolescent Russian agent provocateur based in former Leningrad..., to auld Nazi-Communist-Jihadist Pedophile of Jewish Sandnigga Negro descent... ;-)))
The worst insult though was that of a poster called “Briton”...
He was absolutely convinced I was an Engrishman...!!!
Oh dear oh dear... :-(((
Think
Mar 21st, 2022 - 12:03 pm - Link - Report abuse +1You are correct, you are a Patagonian Argie. Very few in the world deny you the right to call yourself that.
So the land you stand on...was that Argie land in 1833? Or was it home to someone else?
How did Argentina get that land? Was it usurped?
Was the country you live in always “Argentina” or did the inhabitants steal it?
You seem to allow yourself to identify as both the occupying force of Patagonia (since 1870) and of Argentina (since 16th century)
But you deny the Falkland Islanders the same right, even though your ancestors massacred for your homeland, and theirs asked 20 or so murderous raping mutineers to leave peacefully.
Interesting!
Trimonde calling the people in Patagonia before the conquest violent angry primitives… I wonder why they were violent and angry, maybe it was because some Spaniard wannabe republic was conquering and murdering them.
Mar 21st, 2022 - 12:15 pm - Link - Report abuse +2We’re taught that there are no “Primitive” or “Savage” cultures nowadays, clearly the Argies don’t learn that…
This “guide” is today “recommendations”. But soon it could be mandatory. In Russia you could get prison calling the ongoing war a war. Argentina is on the same path. The government there decides what you could say about the Falklands. No free debate is possible. There is only one truth, which mostly consists of lies.
Mar 21st, 2022 - 12:51 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Wonder when Trimonde will get around to answering all my questions. Maybe he is consulting the great book of knowledge.
Mar 21st, 2022 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You can be sure if ant answers do come they will be corrupted or not answered at all. The hall Mark's of being brainwashed.
I am not sure anyone who looks into the Falkland Island question truly believes Argentina has a case, despite what they claim.
Mar 21st, 2022 - 05:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It is easy to believe the “evicted population” fairy story and hold a grievance, it sounds plausible but it isn't true. A little research confirms it.
It is easy to believe the “inheritance from Spain” nonsense, its how most of Latin American countries exist, but Spain vacated the islands before independence.
It is easy to believe that location should be an influence, but islands all over the world have all sorts of affinities.
There is no real argument...so why do the likes of our friends pursue it...
1) They hate the British
2) They feel inferior to the British
3) They hate the islanders
4) They feel inferior to the islanders
5) They want something for nothing
6) It really sticks in their craw that there is a little corner of South America where corruption, lies, debt, abuse and violence is not the norm.
Most Malvinistas know full well the history between 1760-1833 they just choose to ignore it. The Argentine government are issuing this document to the media because the more Argentines see the obvious Falklands truth, the more they see how their government lies to them.
Monkeymagic
Mar 21st, 2022 - 11:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Very well put. …and when it is put to the Argies that they are land grabbing murderers their only defence is that so are the British.
Your continuing attempts at trying to create a conceptual wedge separating “Patagonia”, which was never any kind of political region but nothing more than a geographical / climatological area of Argentina and then Chile, only reveals your true mean and destructive jealous nature. Unless of course, any one of you can explain with accurate logic what makes the Patagonian region any less Argentinian than the Mesopotamian region, or the Pampas region. Or what makes Northern Ireland any less Irish than the whole of Ireland, for that matter. Perhaps the idea of “a Northern Ireland” was also originally an English invention charged with mean destructive scornful jealousy (unexplainable for us naturally human people of heart) which eventually, succeeded in implanting the language in discussions that had nothing to do with the English until the English made it about the English? The only thing that explains it thus to me, is that your wretchedly scornful machine driven voracious little contemptuous hearts have zero love and zero respect for the land of others, with a nonetheless unstoppable continuously erupting need to seek drawing plans on what belongs to others, and lie cheat and manipulate your willful ways into the peaceful lives of those peoples who have made the grave always regretted mistake of trusting you.
Mar 22nd, 2022 - 07:53 am - Link - Report abuse -5NOOOOO!.... YOU THINK??
Mr. Joe Bloggs...
Mar 22nd, 2022 - 08:19 am - Link - Report abuse -1You got it right..., again...
You British were/are land grabbing murderers...
You British were once World Champions in Land Grab Murdering...
The Malvinas/Falklands issue is just a pathetically archaic souvenir of that fact...
- A pathetically archaic souvenir that sooner than later will have to adapt to the generational change from “The Sun Never Sets on the British Empire” to “Set your Brutish Empire Where the Sun Doesn't Shine”...
Capisce...?
“ You British were once World Champions in Land Grab Murdering...”
Mar 22nd, 2022 - 08:43 am - Link - Report abuse +1If you casually have a look at the languages of South and Central America, you will clearly see that title goes to the Spanish… Infact it was the British who created a native reserve and told colonists in the Thirteen Colonies not to expand Westward into native land, when the USA became independent that’s when they went on their manifest destiny.
There weren’t any limits for the Spaniards in Mexico or South America were there Pizarro?
The British were indeed the World Champions at land grabbing, they built the largest Empire the world has ever seen.
Mar 22nd, 2022 - 10:22 am - Link - Report abuse +2At the time they were doing it, that was seen as the way forward, Spain was doing it, Portugal, Belgium, Germany, France.....China did it, Mongolia before, Turkey did it....the world was full of conquest and Empires....and you are quite right Britain was best at it.
I know that still smarts with you Latinos....
However, unlike every other Empire in history, the British Empire was dismantled peacefully, huge swathes of land were returned to the inhabitants of those countries, from Asia to Africa to South America and Canada. The Commonwealth that exists today is testament to the fantastic relationship the UK has with the countries that were once its colonies.
The 18 remaining British Overseas territories have the same offer, leave and be independent whenever you like, but if you are too small, or at risk from mendacious bullying neighbours feel free to stay.
The Falkland Islanders like their status, therefore they have it.
Since 1833 the British Empire has shrunk by 95% nearly all of it returned peacefully, However the Argentine Empire has expanded into Patagonia via murdering of “dirty savages”.
Trimonde.
Mar 22nd, 2022 - 10:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0See you have added a comment but have as yet still to answer my questions.
You stuck. Need some help maybe.
Here is a copy of what I ask,
could you care to enlighten the evil world not only of your appalling history of ethnic cleansing but your more recent history of where your country went from being the sixth richest to the now poorest. Could you explain why that happened. Could you explain the tens of thousands of your own dissapeared. Could you explain why you had to borrow international money.
Could you explain why you cant pay it back.
Could you explain why half of your fellow countrymen women and children are now living in poverty.
Could you explain in what you claim as Argentinas democracy you keep electing such vile governments that are syphoning away the money your country dont have.
Could you also explain why your country invaded a peaceful neighbour called chile to grab more land.
Then can you please explain why it was necessary to invade the Falklands knowing it would cause loss of life and turning more of the world against you.
Find the answers to these questions and you may even learn the truth about yourself.
Geeeeeeeee....
Mar 22nd, 2022 - 12:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I can see above that an Anglo Brainwased Turnip mentions some “”18 remaining British Overseas territories“”...? ! ?
Funny..., AFAIK..., there are only 14 remaining British Overseas territories............
Anyhow, one..., if not the only positive things about the current Ukraine crisis..., is the world's open hunting sesion on dirty monies...
As seven of the existing fourteen British Overseas Territories ( BOT's) tax havens are responsible for 29% of the $245 billion in tax the world loses to corporates...(according to https://taxjustice.net/..., which ranks the British Virgin Islands..., the Cayman Islands..., the Bermudas Islands.., the Turks & Caicos Islands..., Monserrat..., Anguilla and Gibraltar as the top enablers of corporate tax abuse on the planet...) I envision a dark & difficult future for them British Overseas Tax Haven Territories...
Capisce...?
You are correct there are 14 . Well done.
Mar 22nd, 2022 - 01:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It had to happen sooner or later, that you got something right..even a blind dog finds the occasional bone.
TWIMC...
Mar 22nd, 2022 - 03:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0........ And, after the World's open hunting season on dirty Russian monies ends..., the World's open hunting season on dirty Ukrainian monies may begin...:
* https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MXgli7TpINw
* (Three years auld CIA's “Radio Free Europe” video 'bout Zelenskyy before he became their “Boy”.)
And then..., the World's open hunting season on dirty Yankee monies may begin...
And then..., the World's open hunting season on dirty Brutish monies may begin...
And then..., the World's open hunting season on dirty Kraut monies may begin...
And then..., the World's open hunting season on dirty Frog monies may begin...
And then..., the World's open hunting season on dirty Wop monies may begin...
And then..., the World's open hunting season on dirty Wog monies may begin...
And then..., the World's open hunting season on dirty Chink monies may begin...
And then..., the World's open hunting season on dirty Argie monies may begin...
Etc..., etc..., etc...
Bye bye to them British Overseas Tax Haven Territories...:-)))
Capisce...?
TiTMonde
Mar 22nd, 2022 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse +3‘you talk about the Argentinians moving aside a hand full of angry violent primitive people in Patagonia as if it were the friggin holocaust’.
The pre-meditated extermination of a people is called genocide, pure and simple, just like ‘the friggin holocaust’ was.
‘nothing more than a geographical / climatological area of Argentina’
Except it wasn’t part of Argentina, that’s the point, you stole it and murdered the owners so you could keep it.
And N. Ireland can change its status any time it wants to, just like the Falklands, it’s called self-determination, where the people decide the future of a territory, not the other way round.
TWIMC
Yeah, just think all those oligarch billions stashed away that now belong the British Gov, no problem for us getting the money from BOT’s.
Quite a windfall really, like owning Chelsea FC, gonna sell for a few Bob that is.
Geeeeeeeee...
Mar 22nd, 2022 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse -2Them Brainwashed Anglo Turnips are more Turnipy than i imaginated...!
Isn't it funny, you've been here 12 years to my knowledge Thunk...you used to sign off with “another nail in the coffin off the British territory in the South Atlantic”.
Mar 22nd, 2022 - 05:34 pm - Link - Report abuse +312 years later, Argentina is no closer, if anything further away than ever....no nails, no coffins, no hope!
In 12 years time Capisce will be replaced with another childish slogan....and Argentina will be no closer, no nails, no coffins.
You have wasted your life on something hopeless....GEE! hahaha!
Geeeeeeeee...
Mar 22nd, 2022 - 06:02 pm - Link - Report abuse -2Them Brainwashed Anglo Turnips are more Turnipy than I imaginated...!
The last one seems to Tænk that I have somehow wasted some time in here at PenguinPress...!
As I made abundantly clear some 14 years ago..., I'm posting here primarily to improve on my very primitive Engrish and to keep them auld neurons active and informed 'bout them Anglo Pirates many weaknesses...
Currently..., I'm in good health..., fully enjoying the Italian Riviera's good life..., having them sweet kids..., grandkids & great-grandkids visiting as never before and having them Patagonian dogs..., horses and humble abode being taken good care of by the sweetest Scottish widow in the universe...
What can one ask more of life...?
As long as you don't think your inane gabbling actually impacts anything, its your time to waste.
Mar 22nd, 2022 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Still waiting for that first nail in the first coffin....14 years and counting.
*TTTIMC...
Mar 22nd, 2022 - 10:17 pm - Link - Report abuse -4* (To The Turnip I May Concern)
Ahhh...!!!
Nostalgy...!!!
Them good auld... “Another Nail in the Coffin of the Brutish Pirate Oil Adventure in the South Atlantic” 2010-2016 gone days...!!!
Them good auld... “£500 share-price for defunct (or semi-defunct) Brutish Despair..., Fuckl...,Arghhh-os..., B(ull)& S(hit)..., Rockflopper..., Et-Al Pirate Oil Companies...“ 2010-2016 gone days... :-(((
Them good auld gone days were most polite & educated Engrish poster and oil investor...: ”Mr. Beef” tried his best to make me win a lot of money by investing in the Brutish South Atlantic Oil Adventure... ;-)))
But all them Good Auld Heawy Nails seem to have made that Brutish Pirate Oil Adventure in the South Atlantic Coffin to sink... :-)))
Last we heard..., B(ull)& S(hit) Petroleum PLC was desperately trying (and failing) to raise some monies by selling their shares at 1.3 pence... ;-)))
https://en.mercopress.com/2022/03/05/falklands-exploration-company-raising-funds-to-appraise-and-develop-a-gas-condensate-discovery
Capisce...?
Poor old Think.
Mar 23rd, 2022 - 10:42 am - Link - Report abuse +3I remember when you first appeared on MP. Never has there been a bigger liar and multiple account holder on here than you. But I’ll give you this. Your pointless misguided focus is relentless.
Keep up the bad work, old man.
Mr. Jo Bloggs...
Mar 23rd, 2022 - 11:03 am - Link - Report abuse -4Humble..., frail...,poor auld Patagonian Think's account was terminated months ago by PenguinPress censorship...
Humble..., frail...,poor auld Patagonian Tænk's account is just a continuation of my Online Engrish Language Course...
Capisce...?
‘What can one ask more of life...?’
Mar 23rd, 2022 - 04:32 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Err, then why are you so bitter and twisted???
Sent to a ‘harsh’ boarding school at an early age perchance???
I continue to believe that Think was, indeed, terminated.
Mar 24th, 2022 - 07:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0Probably by his God. And deservedly so.
The Born-Again Trunks, however, is a lesser beast
Someone has still yet to explain to me, on what premise has “MercoPress” chosen its name, and on what political / civil foundation does “MercoPress” write about events in MERCOSUR countries Latin America and the American continent in General? Can someone explain to me why MercoPress is called MercoPress? Or will this continue to be one of those inconvenient questions the British avoid or make up bullshit about in order to distract from the real reasons they themselves suspect or know?
Mar 24th, 2022 - 09:15 am - Link - Report abuse -2Ya cheating lying robbers.
Oh, come on, we thought it was a good name.
Mar 24th, 2022 - 10:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Chuckle chuckle
Based in Uruguay Pat, perhaps you should ask them why they chose that particular name.
Mar 24th, 2022 - 11:04 am - Link - Report abuse +1Cipayos, working for British Gold of course.
Mar 24th, 2022 - 05:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Trimonde you have time to spout a comment. Still waiting for your answers to all my questions. Guess you have been defeated on all counts given no response. What a waster.
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