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Tierra del Fuego addresses Malvinas Question issues and blasts appointment of “colonial governor Alison Blake”

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The Tierra del Fuego provincial Legislative held on Wednesday its first ordinary session of 2022 to approve several decrees and motions referred to the Malvinas Question, and to mark the 40th anniversary of the conflict, triggered by the invasion of the Falkland Islands by Argentine forces on April 2nd 1982. Read full article

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  • Islander1

    Wow!! - did not know we now had Cruise Missile Launchers here??

    Or do these pathetic plebs mean the new replacement SHORTRANGE anti aircraft Missiles that don't even reach territorial limits? The ones that have simply replaced the old outdated
    40m year old ones we had before.

    What a bunch of numpties.

    Mar 31st, 2022 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Judge Jose

    You cant fix stupid, and boy they sure are that,

    Mar 31st, 2022 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Tænk

    Esteemed Mr. Timlander1...

    As Brainwashed Anglo Turnip Judge Jose says above...:
    - “You can't fix stupid...”
    And boy..., he sure is that...!

    In your case I would say it's just a combination of Job Stress and MSM (Malvinas Siege Mentality.)
    - No-one...,nowhere in the above article mentions no “Cruise Missile Launchers”..., Chay...
    - What indeed is mentioned above are them *NYA...: “Ground-Air Missile Batteries...”
    - And that's exactly what the *NYA Sky Sabres are...: “Ground-Air Missile Batteries...”
    *(NYA = Not Yet Arrived)

    Saludos Patagónicos...
    El Tænk...

    Mar 31st, 2022 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Judge Jose

    Wondered how long it would be before the cabbage crawled out the ground to spew more immature indoctrinated bizarre drivel,

    Mar 31st, 2022 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tænk

    Mr. Timlander1...

    Some facts 'bout your *(NYA) “new ground-based air-defense system known as Sky Sabre.”...:
    https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2017/03/07/britain-beefs-up-defenses-in-the-falkland-islands/

    As you can see in the above link..., your Engrish Colonial Masters..., them bloody Yanks and we..., insufferable Argies call them by their correct denomination...

    No Cruises in Malvinas yet..., be it missiles or ships...

    Capisce....

    Mar 31st, 2022 - 03:16 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Falklands-Free

    Almost their invasion day so quite expect a lot more hype coming out of that strange country.
    Maybe they are talking about this place.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malvinas_Islands_(Chile)
    They can complain all they want , even celebrate every day of the year, even do their own name changing thing and it wont make a blind bit of differance. We are forever British and that's the end of it.
    The Falkland Islands already have names and we intend to continue using them.
    They sure are one very sad lot to be sure.

    Mar 31st, 2022 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • bushpilot

    Fake Argentine.

    Mar 31st, 2022 - 04:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Judge Jose

    You are spot on Falklands Free. they are wasting their lives on a deluded fantasy ,

    Mar 31st, 2022 - 04:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tænk

    Geeeeeeeeeee.....

    “We are forever British”...,the young Kelper above says...

    Haughty words from a subdit of an Imperial Crown that has (mis)managed to lose more than 98% of its territory and 'bout 97% of its relevance in only 75 years...!

    Poor little sausage... :-(

    Mar 31st, 2022 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • bushpilot

    What country were you born in?

    Mar 31st, 2022 - 06:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tænk

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MaiDFrZbxXY

    Mar 31st, 2022 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • bushpilot

    It is a simple question.

    Mar 31st, 2022 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tænk

    Again...
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MaiDFrZbxXY

    Mar 31st, 2022 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • bushpilot

    Not born in Argentina. Danish person.

    Mar 31st, 2022 - 07:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tænk

    TWIMC...
    As publicly available on PenguinPress's archives since ~2010...:

    Tænk, (formerly:Think)...
    Born & Grass-fed in Argentina....
    100% Scandinavian genetic stock...
    Three (3) valid European passports...
    One (1) expired East African passport... (fun story... :-)

    Capisce...?

    Mar 31st, 2022 - 08:10 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Falklands-Free

    Poor old Taenk really gets really sarcastic when a genuine born and bred Islander (indigenous) has a say. Always refers to British implanted.
    He could not be further from the truth.
    There are over sixty differant nationalities living and integrating on the islands who all came here by their own free choice. They are not chained and are free to come and go as they please. Do happens they have decided to make it their home and raise their own families.
    But it is quite interesting how Taenk accuses us of being implanted when every Argentine was an implanted person by the Spanish, but that's ok because they dont recognise that fact.
    Morons.

    Mar 31st, 2022 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tænk

    Falklands-Free...



    From my perspective..., poor humble & auld Tænk gets mostly quite realistic when a full subdit of the British Imperial Crown..., full bearer of British Citizenship and genuine born and bred Islander (Kelper) has a say...

    - He mostly refers to them as Anglo squatters..., with all the rights..., limitations and obligations such denomination implies...

    Capisce...?

    Mar 31st, 2022 - 10:11 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Roger Lorton

    I can hear them from here - “Blast, blast, blast”

    Fascinated that people from a Deficient Democracy are criticising the arrangements of a Working Democracy (Ranking of Countries by Quality of Democracy - Universitat Wrtzburg)

    Anyone interested in what the UN says about the Falklands system of government?

    https://falklandstimeline.files.wordpress.com/2022/03/un-working-paper-falklands-2022.pdf

    ” A chief executive is appointed by the Governor in agreement with the Executive Council to serve as head of the public service to implement policy. Questions of policy are considered by the Executive Council, which consists of three members of the Legislative Assembly who
    are elected annually from their own numbers, in addition to two ex officio members, the Chief Executive and the Financial Secretary, who have no voting rights. The Attorney General and the Commander of British Forces in the Islands have the right to attend meetings of the Executive Council but not to vote. The Governor, who is appointed by the United Kingdom, has ultimate responsibility for matters including external affairs, defence, internal security (including the police) and the administration of justice. Under the terms of the Constitution, the Governor, with the advice and consent of the Legislative Assembly, may make laws for the peace, order and good governance of the Territory, while full power to make such laws is reserved for the British Crown. In addition, the British Parliament has unlimited power to make laws for all its overseas territories.”

    As long as the Falklanders are happy ......... no?

    Mar 31st, 2022 - 11:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tænk

    Correct..., copper...

    Pirates have always been good at self-governance... Just tuff luck for the rest...
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governance_in_18th-century_piracy

    As long as them Pirates are happy ......... no?

    Mar 31st, 2022 - 11:39 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • imoyaro

    “ that strange country. ”

    They don't call it The Dark Land (TDL) for nothing...

    Apr 01st, 2022 - 01:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • FitzRoy

    Wænk, there is no need for missiles when there's nothing to shoot down. It's like your lot increasing their “armed” forces in TdF when there is not invasion coming.

    Apr 01st, 2022 - 08:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    “Pirates have always been good at self-governance.”

    Is that what you call it? Unfortunately, the historical record doesn’t support such a view.
    The only pirates in the area were from :
    “There is scarcely a Buenos Ayrean privateer which has not committed piracy of every description” John Quincy Adams July 20th, 1820.
    Including David Jewett, and Louis Vernet

    Apr 01st, 2022 - 11:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Islander1

    Think- I ,mentioned Cruise Missiles as your numpties in TDF called what the RAF has here- Missiles- they are as you know- -short range self-defence ground launched anti-aircraft missiles - not what one nomally calls missiles- ie the offensive ones.

    As for the system of Govt - yes we are happy with it - as was clearly demonstrated in the 2013 referendum. Maybe we will have another in 2023 just to clarify it to all.

    Apr 01st, 2022 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Zaczac121

    You’ve heard of Implanted Populations.
    You’ve seen Imperial Colonists

    Now get ready for: Subdits of an Imperial Crown


    P.s. wtf is a Subdit?!

    Apr 01st, 2022 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tænk

    Mr.Timlander1...

    1) Let's see if I got you right...:
    - You are crossed with my “Numpties in TDF” because they used the word “MISSILES” to refer to you Kelper Numties “MISSILES”...???

    2) I have good news for you...
    - Those “Thingies” that you call...: “Short Range Self-Defence Ground launched Anti-Aircraft MISSILES”..., have had several upgrades since 2017 and their last version has a stated range of >24* nautical miles...
    *(That's twice as much as the standard 12 nautical miles territorial waters..., btw...)
    https://www.mbda-systems.com/product/camm-er/
    - Good thing for us Argies though that them Brutish MEDIUM RANGE MISSILES..., originally destined to them Windblown Islands..., ended at the Polish/Belarus border for the MEDIUM RANGE unforeseeable future...

    *Salve...
    * (that's latin..., like “subdits”:-)

    Apr 01st, 2022 - 02:02 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Trimonde

    CORRECTION liars.
    You should have written, “triggered by the failed recovery operation” of the Falkland Islands by Argentine forces on April 2nd 1982.

    Apr 01st, 2022 - 04:00 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Terence Hill

    “That's twice as much as the standard 12 nautical miles territorial waters...”

    Since Argentina has twice used undeclared military interventions, contrary to international law. Their message is abundantly clear, if you should recommence such activity; you’re going to get severely spanked. Seems to be a pretty effective deterrent, in keeping the area peaceful.

    Apr 01st, 2022 - 04:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • brasherboot

    Funny. Argentina, an immature, inexperienced child, went against the grand master of war.

    And pretend they have some form of control.

    Go play elsewhere Argentina. You are useless and clueless

    Apr 01st, 2022 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Falklands-Free

    See Trimonde is here. Wonder if he has managed to answer my questions to him on another thread. The one with all the crap yet hides behind his mother's skirt when afraid to answer questions.

    Apr 02nd, 2022 - 01:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    yes Trimonde....failed recovery operation....

    92 days in 1832
    73 days in 1982

    The sum total of Argentine occupation of the islands.

    Admittedly the 1832 number is dubious as the crew of the Sarandi murdered the governor, Mestevier and then raped his wife in front of their children, so does that count as Argentine occupation without a governor...? Ask your academic friends....

    hehehe

    Apr 02nd, 2022 - 07:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Trimonde

    Monkeymongrel, The islands were already Argentine from the moment Spain laid claim to the uninhabited archipelago several years before it or England set foot on them. It is Britain who has never seized wanting to take them, to this very day through each one of its actions, by now using an installed political shield population and by always exploiting their defenseless predicament, bulling around the place its presumptuous contemptuousness for others. If you had a clear grasp of the island's entire history in any normal human global capacity, and you were not a fascist blinded by selfish self centered narcissistic ill-patriotism, you would understand this.

    Apr 03rd, 2022 - 08:41 am - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Falklands-Free

    Trimonde , you are off again on your fantasy world order. Spain never claimed any part if the Islands. It was France who had the first settlement in the place known as Port Louis at the same time Britain was established at Port Egmont.
    France and Britain were at odds and eventually France decided to leave. They however tried to get one over the British by offering the settlement at Port Louis to Spain. Not the entire Falklands as you think.
    Then Argentina years , even decades later wanted independence from Spain who at first for many years ignored you.
    You then finally got independence and assumed you also got the islands.
    History shows there was no gift of the islands to Argentina at all. So as I have been asking you on other threads, give me the absolute written verified proof that Spain handed the islands to Argentina. Remember that Spain never actually ever owned the islands and technically neither did the french. Their occupation was brief and in defiance of Britains claim in 1592.
    So produce the legal document otherwise shut to hell up.because you are talking a load if crap.

    Apr 03rd, 2022 - 10:08 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Terence Hill

    “Now using an installed political shield population”

    There was an Island population long before there was a UN Charter predicating self -determination.
    “UN Charter; DECLARATION REGARDING NON-SELF-GOVERNING TERRITORIES; Article 73; Members of the United Nations which have or assume responsibilities for ..peoples have not yet attained .. self-government recognize the principle ..b. to develop self-government, ...” October 16th,1975 The ICJ presents its advisory opinion on two questions concerning Western Sahara; “The validity of the principle of self-determination, defined as the need to pay regard to the freely expressed will of peoples, ...” The Court also states; “The Charter of the United Nations, in Article 1, paragraph 2, indicates, as one of the purposes of the United Nations: “To develop friendly relations among nations based on ...the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples . .” This purpose is further developed in Articles 55 and 56 of the Charter. ...the subsequent development of international law in regard to non-self-governing territories, as enshrined in the Charter of the United Nations, made the principle of self-determination applicable to all of them”
    Judge Dillard, .. adds; “ .. it is for the people to determine the destiny of the territory and not the territory the destiny of the people.”

    Apr 03rd, 2022 - 10:28 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Trimonde

    I'll answer both, but I'm not going dwell on something you should already know by now. Why do you think France yielded to Spain's rights to the islands by turning in their settlement to Spain for a modest symbolic sum of money? Why do you think Spain later had to fight the British off the islands in 1771? Spain, unlike England, was not about attacking and robbing territories from other Empires. That was Britain who was always going after Spanish colonies all over the continent, Jamaica and other places in the Caribbean, Central America, Hawaii, Buenos Aires, Montevideo and Malvinas included. This part of the world had already been claimed by Spain and Portugal, plus England also had agreed through treaty to not lay claim to any adjacent islands off South America. They were Argentinian not because Spain needed to “officially bequeath them”. Did Spain officially bequeath Buenos Aires to the Argentinians? Malvinas had been incorporated in 1776 to the administration of the La Plata Vice Royalty whose capital was Buenos Aires, later they continued as part of Buenos Aires in the United Provinces. Argentina came into independence with the islands already part of its jurisdiction. Clearly you have both been educated by the voice of the British narrative, one which seeks to extract all aspects that even remotely tie the islands to anything that can be seen as Argentine legitimacy in its claim, and, you are very well versed in it I see. Too bad its merely partially, very partially true.
    Concerning the United Nations, it was Britain's idea to list the “situation with Argentina” in the group of non self governing territories, not Argentina's idea. And there's a reason for that. A cheating reason. Britain defined the conflict with Argentina as its own situation regarding the Falklands, and in doing so cleverly eclipsed to territorial dispute with Argentina with a normal colonized territory situation, which it is not. The Islanders are not colonized, they are British people.

    Apr 03rd, 2022 - 02:21 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Terence Hill

    “Why do you think France yielded to Spain's rights to the islands”

    Apparently due to the Pacto de Familia, which means Spain’s claim is later than the UK’s.

    “This part of the world had already been claimed by Spain and Portugal”
    Whatever the Pope and a couple of his parishioners agreed too, has no
    bearing on other parties.

    “Eclipsed to territorial dispute with Argentina”
    Sorry bud no such thing now or ever, under international law.

    Apr 03rd, 2022 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Falklands-Free

    Trimonde you sure can make a lot of stuff up. You need to publish said documents of ownership by Spain in 1776 which clearly states that the Falkland islands was included in these claims . Then go on to explain why the French occupied them then offered to sell them to Spain. If Spain already owned them they had jo need to buy them.so somewhere your interpretation is rather off the mark. But then we expect that from you.

    Apr 03rd, 2022 - 03:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Monkeymagic

    Trimonde

    You are talking nonsense. I know the islands total history very well.

    Spain landed in Mexico too...why is that not part of Argentina? How about Madrid? Do you claim that?

    The Spanish inhabitants of the islands left via Uruguay, not Argentina....odd if they are Argentine? By your logic the islands are Uruguayan...hand them over...hehehe

    Spain claimed Texas....is that Argentina.

    I knew once the 1832 farce was proven a lie, you'd move to the equally ludicrous “inherited from Spain” farce. What about South Georgia....Spain was never there!

    So, no inheritance from Spain...no 1833 ursurpation...want to go onto the next fantasy around Vernet? Or are you done?

    I will laugh at “Spain didnt go round stealing others land for their Empire” for a very long time.

    Chuckle.

    Apr 03rd, 2022 - 03:04 pm - Link - Report abuse +1

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