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Latin American focus, support for Argentina's Falklands' claim and diplomacy to solve continental shelf disputes, Boric's agenda

Thursday, April 7th 2022 - 09:56 UTC
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Chilean president Gabriel Boric in his recent visit to Argentina stated some of the basic pillars of the new administration's foreign policy, focused mainly on Latin America, human rights, support for Argentina's claim over the Falklands, and willingness to address border disputes its neighbor through diplomacy and patience. Read full article

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  • Tænk

    Geeeeeeeeeeeeee...

    - Finally..., PenguinPress...
    - It took ya' four (4) full days...
    - To report about the elephant in the room...

    Chuckle..., chuckle..., requetechuckle...

    Apr 07th, 2022 - 09:52 am - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Steve Potts

    'Support For Argentina's Falklands Claim'

    What claim?

    For Argentina to argue that their ‘1878 Conquest of the Desert’ was a lawful and then claim that the 1833 conquest of the Falklands was an illegal usurpation is gross hypocrisy.

    Conquest of the Desert – Argentina’s Falklands Hypocrisy : https://www.academia.edu/75139830/Conquest_of_the_Desert_Argentinas_Falklands_Hypocrisy

    Apr 07th, 2022 - 09:57 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Tænk

    Sr. Boric said...:

    “Chile is part of Latin America, for too long we were looking in other directions, to the north and to the Pacific, with relations we want to retain and expand but our base in the American continent, and from here we are going to build the Latin American community, region, with cooperation and internationalism”.

    Music for auld Tænk's ears...!

    Apr 07th, 2022 - 10:08 am - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Judge Jose

    Nothing but lip service,

    Apr 07th, 2022 - 10:17 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Steve Potts

    Judge Jose

    Yes, just the usual lip-service.

    President Piñera of Chile conveyed support for the Malvinas and advocated the resumption of dialogue for sovereignty (Telam 26 January 2021)

    Apr 07th, 2022 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tænk

    TWIMC...

    “Nothing but lip service...”
    “Yes, just the usual lip-service...”
    Say them usual lip-serving Anglo Brainwashed Turnips posting on PenguinPress...

    What do other Anglos Tænk...? ...:
    https://en.mercopress.com/2022/04/07/website-declassified-uk-poll-shows-49-believe-argentina-should-assert-sovereignty-over-the-falkland-malvinas

    Chuckle..., chuckle...

    Apr 07th, 2022 - 10:45 am - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Judge Jose

    Says the immature indoctrinated cabbage troll.

    Apr 07th, 2022 - 10:51 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Roger Lorton

    Argentina does not have a fair, legitimate or dignified claim to the British Falklands.
    British since before there was an Argentina.
    https://falklandstimeline.files.wordpress.com/2022/01/falkland-wars-1700-1850-second-edition.pdf

    Apr 07th, 2022 - 12:13 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Pugol-H

    Ahhh, so Baldric has a ‘cunning plan’ then.

    Involving a Nabo no doubt.

    Apr 07th, 2022 - 02:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ratamacue

    Boric and Fernandez apparently both believe in human rights, except for the people of the Falklands to determine their own future. Hypocrites is a word that springs to mind!

    Apr 07th, 2022 - 05:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    Sure hope this doesn't lead to Chile becoming a Narcokleptocracy...

    Apr 07th, 2022 - 07:35 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Shogun

    The question over the possession of the Falklands / Malvinas is one that is of great historical importance and goes back hundreds of years to the very invasions of the “New World” by the Europeans, to the period of the British Empire and the Catholic Church’s Doctrine of Discovery, which allowed European “Christians” to steal the lands and riches of the indigenous people’s for their respective crowns in Europe.

    Since it was this Doctrine of Discovery that has allowed for Europeans to continue to possess and squabble over lands that in reality were stolen, and in the case of Las Malvinas belong to neither the Argentineans nor the British,
    If we go back to the history of the islands, they have been claimed on and off by Britain since the mid 1770s with supposed possession of the islands passing back and forth and including French and other claims..
    When the British expelled / repatriated the population of the islands in 1833, which included 12 Argentineans, 4 Charrúa Indians from Uruguay, 2 British nationals, 2 Germans, one French citizen and one person from Jamaica. In 1834 Charles Darwin made his second visit to the islands commenting: “After the possession of these miserable islands had been contested by France, Spain, and England, they were left uninhabited.The Englishman who was left in charge of the flag was consequently murdered. A British officer was next sent unsuported by any power: and when we arrived, we found him in charge of a population, of which rather more than half were runaway rebels and murderers.”In stark reality, with all political niceties aside, if we take the account of Charles Darwin at full value then, as with North America, Australia and other empirical conquests, the question is one of whether murderers, criminals, outcasts, pirates and every sort of scum, and their descendants, who have been squatting on lands not their own for hundreds of years, can really be called the owners of said lands. Just like European “ Americans” Its a farce

    Apr 07th, 2022 - 11:37 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • mollymauk

    Shogun - you say “…. European “Christians” to steal the lands and riches of the indigenous people’s for their respective crowns in Europe.
    Since it was this Doctrine of Discovery that has allowed for Europeans to continue to possess and squabble over lands that in reality were stolen, and in the case of Las Malvinas belong to neither the Argentineans nor the British,”

    The big difference is that while the Argentinean Europeans literally stole the Southern 1000 miles of their country from an indigenous population, the Falklands never had any human inhabitants until Europeans arrived there,

    (and the Argentineans took that 1000 miles of territory by setting out to kill the existing population in the “Conquest of the desert” starting around 1876, by which time the British had had a continuous effective administration in the Falklands for over 40 years, and claims to the Islands for over 110 years, since 40 years or more before Argentina existed)

    Who do you suggest the Falklands “belonged” to before Europeans arrived there? Or should uninhabited territory have remained uninhabited? (Maybe we should all have stayed in Africa…)

    Apr 08th, 2022 - 11:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Shogun

    molly, you have missed the whole point of my comment, the active word being “indigenos” According to your logic any uninhabited isle or continent
    anywhere in the world could be claimed by whoever just because they considered themselves superior

    Apr 08th, 2022 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Zaczac121

    Shogun, I agree with a lot of what you say, almost all of the Americas were conquered from the natives which is horrible in its own right, and I agree with idea that if anyone has the oldest claim it is the French.

    But the islands have been inhabited now for over 150 years which means that these people have a right to remain on those islands and can be considered the “natives” as it was not previously inhabited for long periods of time.

    However Britain has the mandate for the claim to the islands because the islanders want Britain to own it, if the islanders want to become independent the future they can and most likely would, but not while it’s neighbour illegitimately claims their island and always resorts to aggression.

    Apr 08th, 2022 - 05:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • mollymauk

    Ok Shogun, so presumably in your view, the (Spanish-speaking, European descended) Argentineans have as little right to their territory as the Falkland Islanders do to theirs, and Argentina should revert to ownership by the indigenous, and the Falklands should be left empty in case the indigenous South Americans want to occupy it at some time (even though it is 500km from South America and geologically originates from South Africa).

    Apr 08th, 2022 - 05:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Shogun

    Molly and Zac I'm not arguing against self determination or anything like that.
    The sheer history of European conquest around the world makes the whole thing a farce.

    Especially the Americas, He who has the biggest stick wins.

    Personally, the Islanders need to proclaim Independance from being a British Overseas Territory very soon, but due to legal problems that might not be so easy re the ongoing squabble. Over time as the balance of world power changes, which it does ( just look at the British Empire ) the Argentines may find help in their quest for sovereignty

    Apr 08th, 2022 - 06:48 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Tænk

    TWIMC...

    Brummie Roger Lorton above says...:
    - “Argentina does not have a fair, legitimate or dignified claim to the British Falklands.”

    Brummie Simon Jenkins below said yesterday...:
    - “British sovereignty over the Falklands is an absurd imperial hangover that must end”

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/07/british-sovereignty-falklands-absurd-imperial-hangover-argentina

    I Tænk we have a tie... ;-)))
    Capisce...?

    Apr 08th, 2022 - 08:36 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Zaczac121

    If the Falklands are an imperial hangover… Then wouldn’t that make Argentina an Imperial drunkard?

    Apr 08th, 2022 - 09:11 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Roger Lorton

    Simon Jenkins? Man with a book to (re)sell.
    His opinion carries no weight.
    Only the Falklanders can decide their future.
    Not Jenkins.
    Not Argentina.
    Not the UK, come to that

    Apr 09th, 2022 - 12:29 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Tænk

    Roger Lorton? Man with a timeline to (re)push.
    His opinion carries an opinion's weight.
    The Kelpers may & shall influence their future.
    Not Lorton.
    Not Tænk.
    But the UK & Argentina will, come to that.

    Capisce...?

    Apr 09th, 2022 - 07:52 am - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Judge Jose

    Argentina will decide nothing, Independence will happen sooner or later.

    Apr 09th, 2022 - 11:11 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Roger Lorton

    Argentina was never in the game, Trunks.

    Still isn't.

    Snr Mon is working very hard, I see.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/es/post-opinion/2022/04/10/islas-malvinas-guerra-falkland-argentina-2-abril-errores-40-anos/?utm_campaign=wp_opinions&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

    The only Argie journalist that made it into the Islands for the 40th anniversary?

    Apr 11th, 2022 - 03:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tænk

    Mr. Lorto ..., copper...

    Young Hugito Alconada Mon? Man with many a book to (re)sell...
    His Malvinas opinion coincides ~90% with mine...
    The Kelpers may & shall influence their future...
    Not Alconada-Mon...
    Not Jenkins..
    Not Lorton...
    Not Tænk...
    But the UK & Argentina wil.l, come to that...

    Capisce...?

    Apr 11th, 2022 - 11:39 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Terence Hill

    “But the UK & Argentina wil.l, come to that...”
    No they won’t, as those that have recourse to self-determination hold the whip hand.

    Apr 11th, 2022 - 11:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0

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