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Air-link Falklands/Sao Paulo “discontinued” or exchanged for a direct flight from Buenos Aires
Argentine media is reporting that Buenos Aires informed the UK is not willing to renew the 2019 political agreement which enabled the establishment of a second air link between the Falkland Islands and the continent (Brazil), but is prepared to discuss a new air link under different conditions. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesTWIMC...
May 09th, 2022 - 10:30 am - Link - Report abuse -8Aarticle says...:
- “Following the controversial revelations in a book by former Foreign Office minister for the Americas, Sir Ian Duncan, which led to speculations that the September 2016 joint communiqué was agreed with Argentine diplomats who had drank too much at an excellent wine cellar in the UK embassy in Buenos Aires...”
I say...:
- The visceral contempt of them haughty Engrish Foreign & Colonial Officers against all of their “Foreign Colleagues” is World Renovned...
Anyone ignoring that fact will..., sooner or later..., learn it... ;-)
Again..., my deepest thænkfulness to former Foreign Office minister for the Americas, Sir Ian Duncan...
Think,
May 09th, 2022 - 12:46 pm - Link - Report abuse +4Comes as no surprise here as your Govt has been saying that from day of election. Not a problem. One reason why AA would never happen is how could they as the Arg official Govt backed airline- communicate directlt with Falkland Islands Govt Dept of Civil Aviation to start making all the arrangements of landing fees and insurances of airframes etc etc.
Thought F.I.G. did not exist as the Govt of the Islands - in the eyes of Arg /
London has nothing to do with the normal paperwork etc needed for commercial flights in and out of the Islands- all handled this end by FIG.Govt?
Anyway as you well know also, ample other reasons why its a non starter as far as the Islands are concerned.
Saludos.
Oh dear, what a shame. I can't see AA being allowed here either, not many wanted the stopover in Cordoba, so it's no massive loss but it's a shame Brazil is not going to be directly linked. Any Argentines wanting to visit are going to feel let down though.
May 09th, 2022 - 12:59 pm - Link - Report abuse +4Mr Timlander1...
May 09th, 2022 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse -8The first burocratic argumentation in your post could easily be solved with a bit of good-will and couple of fancy rubber stamps featuring some slender Imperial Unicorns & Lions instead of that fat sheep of yours...
The second argumentation..., the ill-will of you Kelpers..., is far more complex to solve...
Ergo..., no second flight from nowhere to nowhere...
Saludos cordiales a Ud. también...
El Tænk...
It’s quite interesting Twonk, it’s o ill l will if it’s from the Falklands and an Argentine right from across the water.
May 09th, 2022 - 04:29 pm - Link - Report abuse +3If the São Paulo flight does not go ahead, no loss no gain. Status quo is upheld.
Interesting how the flight from Santiago is no issue, next of kin visits maybe?
“Flight from Santiago...?”
May 09th, 2022 - 05:09 pm - Link - Report abuse -4What “Flight from Santiago” is the above Brainwashed Ignorant Anglo Turnip babbling about...?
SCL- PUQ-MPN-PUQ-SCL
May 09th, 2022 - 08:52 pm - Link - Report abuse +2That is the normal route with a twice monthly stop off In Rio Gallegos to appease an irrelevant and belligerent government
Best we draw a complete line under South Anerican Argentine Links .we need to go it alone.
May 09th, 2022 - 09:28 pm - Link - Report abuse +2We dont actually need Argentine permission. They use that as a lever to say we cannot fly through their air space. What they fail to realise is that the international law of the skies allow any country to freely cross the air space of another.
That they also fail to realise that Brazil and Uruguay can be reached without going anywhere near Argentine Air space and if push come to real shove the same applies through the Chillian controlled Beagle channel where there is a corridor that cannot be controlled by Argentina.
Then also there is the straight across the Atlantic route to South Africa that is possible using a larger air frame which could be filled with both people and freight as in fresh fruit.
The other possibility is to introduce a freight passenger ship to take people direct to both Uruguay, Brazil and South America.
Either way we need to completely remove all ties with Argentine involvement. It's not that we could not afford to do it. Just the will of our MLAS to implement it.
That is the only way to make the Argentines realise they do not have control over what we can or cannot do.
The one and only flight is PUQ-MPN-PUQ..., Jedi389...
May 09th, 2022 - 09:48 pm - Link - Report abuse -2From there you have several “conections”...
BBA-PUQ-MPN-PUQ-BBA..., for example...
Or...
MHC-PUQ-MPN-PUQ-MHS...
Or...
PMC-PUQ-MPN-PUQ-PMC...
Or...
ZCO-PUQ-MPN-PUQ-ZCO
Or...
CCP-PUQ-MPN-PUQ-CCP
And finally...
SCL-PUQ-MPN-PUQ-SCL
Capisce...?
Well splitting hairs Think, that flight starts in SCL- Ok its one of the regular daily ones down to PUQ - just happens to change t Int flight in PUQ where we all go through customs- but our luggage stays on the flight if you started it from SCL and booked through.
May 09th, 2022 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Same the other way around- You get off and do Immigration in PUQ - but your luggage stays on to SCL and goes through Customs and SAG up there.
Not “Splitting Hairs”..., Chay...
May 09th, 2022 - 11:11 pm - Link - Report abuse -2But.........
- With the flabergasting level of worldly ignorance and lack of situational awareness your young Kelpers commenting in here continue to exhibit..., one is forced to “Spell Things Out” for them..., my esteemed Mr.Timlander1...
You know more than well that the FIG(leaf) tried several times (and failed) to get a DIRECT SCL-MPN-SCL flight...
(By the way..., splitting hairs now..., your luggage DOES NOT stay on the flight if you started it from SCL and booked through..., your luggage GETS (hopefuly:-) TRANSFERRED to the new plane flying you from PUQ to MPN... ;-)
None of the above will be relevant if we choose to remove ourselves from the control of Argentina THINK. It could be done and we could establish a brand new link with whoever we like and Argentina would not be able to do a damn thing about it. If they tried they would be breaking international law.
May 10th, 2022 - 12:14 am - Link - Report abuse +4We could and should re establish a passenger ship freighter to also take people by sea if they wish to choose and every return trip could be loaded with fresh fruit and feed. That ship could go to Chile, Brazil, Uruguay and even as far as South Africa. A brand new opening for trade. Argentina would not be able to do a thing about it either. Now would that not be a smack in the face for our neighbouring bully.
Maybe its time to start playing hard ball with Argentina, block all visits by them to the islands until they start behaving like civilized people, and charge them for all the war damage they caused,
May 10th, 2022 - 08:06 am - Link - Report abuse +4Mr.Timlander1...
May 10th, 2022 - 08:10 am - Link - Report abuse -1A little correction to my above...
Can see that LATAM has improved its services..., offering now some SCL-PUQ-MPN-PUQ-SCL frequencies with shorter connection time and without change of planes...!
Can also see that they have “improved” their prices...
U$ 1.000 for a short 500 miles flight to Punta...!
(Do they serve Petrossian caviar or what...? :-)
Saludos...
Think
May 11th, 2022 - 02:34 pm - Link - Report abuse +1You claim that your primary reason for posting on these discussion boards is to improve and practice your English.
I might offer you the following feedback:
TWIMC is pretentious, it would generally be assumed to be used by someone who thinks they are more intelligent than they are.
Whilst “.... ” is a very good use of punctuation when adopted correctly or in moderation, and indeed can also be used as a linking punctuation between sentences or paragraphs, its overuse suggests that the writer is pretending to know more than he/she is saying, and like the above is also pretentious.
“Capiche” is an odd way of saying “do you understand?”. Again, either pretentious, or just a poor use of Italian-American slang. I would suggest the former.
Hope this helps....
:-)
“Malvinas/Sao Paulo flight , … “had been discontinued,” since among other reasons the link was used to transport shifts of fishermen and oil industry workers, operating with licenses extended by the “illegitimate” government of the Islands.”
May 14th, 2022 - 02:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They just can’t do anything without being in breach of international law to wit: None-interference in the internal affairs of other countries as in this UNGA resolution. Ref.: 2225(XXI) The General Assembly, Reaffirming the principle of non-intervention, proclaimed in the charters of the Organization of American States, … Recognizing that full observance of the principle of the non-intervention of States in the internal and external affairs of other States is essential to the fulfilment of the purposes and principles of the United Nations, Considering further that direct intervention, subversion and all forms of indirect intervention are contrary to these principles and, consequently, constitute a violation of the Charter of the United Nations, …1. No State has the right to intervene, directly or indirectly, for any reason whatever, in the internal or external affairs of any other State... and all other forms of interference or attempted threats against the personality of the State or against its political, economic and cultural elements, are condemned.
…6. All States shall respect the right of self-determination and independence of peoples and nations, to be freely exercised without any foreign pressure,
CHARTER OF THE ORGANIZATION OF AMERICAN STATES
Part One Chapter II PRINCIPLES Article 3
The American States reaffirm the following principles:
a) International law is the standard of conduct of States in their reciprocal relations;
b) International order consists of respect for the personality, sovereignty, and independence of States,
e) ..and has the duty to abstain from intervening in the affairs of another State. ...
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