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Falklands War: end of hostilities, General Menendez surrenders to Major General Jeremy Moore
With the capture of Mount Tumbledown, Wireless Ridge and Sapper Hill the Falkland Islands conflict was effectively over and at 2100 hours on the 14th June 1982 the commander of the Argentine garrison in Stanley, General Mario Menendez, surrendered to Major General Jeremy Moore. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesToday is both a day of celebrating and a day of remembering the needless loss of life on both sides.
Jun 14th, 2022 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse +2A stupid unnecessary war .
Thousands more still suffering today as a result of wounding and PTSD .
So while we celebrate forty years of progress we remember those who came to our rescue, who gave their lives so that we the people of the Falkland Islands can live the lives of our choosing.
This is part of the war Argentina always likes to forget, when it is the part they really, really need to remember.
Jun 14th, 2022 - 02:32 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Instead of celebrating the start of the war with ‘re-enactments’ of the landings, they should ‘re-enact’the return of their defeated troops after the surrender.
Might save another generation from having to go through the same thing.
Falklands-Free
Amen to that.
You can foolishly believe that Falkland-Free if you believe that war is just “one of the many options a country can take to resolve international sovereignty crisis situation” I'm not a liar or a hypocrite crying crocodile tears of bullshit. The fact is the British government chose to sacrifice its people not to defend its territory, but to expand its control and exploitation in the world by deliberately quashing peace negotiations with Argentina over a disputed territory. The islanders have always been instrumental in that, and one of the uses of that instrument is to have everyone join in the support of a narrative that has to do with their rights. Britain chose a war also for psychological reasons that would influence the islanders a great deal in the future and make its occupation virtually effortless in light of the fact it had started to fade in favor of Argentina. Had Britain not acted militarily and demonstrated no desire to create a military confrontation and taken a different route, they could have very easily obtained the military and all its soldiers leaving the islands, while Argentina continued to bring down that military occupation. But that would have resulted in continued friendship and empathy between Islanders and Argentinians, continuing to favor negotiations on some kind of shared sovereignty and eventual return of Argentine sovereignty if not partial, eventually that's were all natural forces were going. Britain and the US saw that, and realized they needed a war.
Jun 15th, 2022 - 02:29 am - Link - Report abuse -5Is that a fact?
Jun 15th, 2022 - 03:35 am - Link - Report abuse +3It could well be that you are the one that is foolishly believing.
Britain didn't choose a war, Britain didn't start that war, Britain didn't need a war, Argentina did. That is “the fact”.
No one misses this but you.
You are the only one who thinks Alexander Betts was a noble individual, after he left a wife and three children for his Argentine girlfriend.
So that is a foolish belief of yours also.
what utter and complete nonsense Trimonde, your conspiracy theories are barking mad, if you really believe what you are saying then you need professional help.
Jun 15th, 2022 - 08:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0@Trimonde UN Res 502 ring any bells? You are, as ever, talking nonsense. Neither did diplomacy work with your drunk idiot. All that was left was to remove your invaders forcibly. As for making sacrifices, one day Argentina will come clean about just how many of her young men had to die.
Jun 15th, 2022 - 08:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Trimonde. No 1,You live in that indoctrinated world of yours. You refuse to accept that first , Argentina has never owned these islands, that is a myth instilled upon people like you through indoctrination.
Jun 15th, 2022 - 10:10 am - Link - Report abuse +3No 2, Argentina illegally tried to place a military garrison here and was asked to leave in 1833.
No 3, your succesive corrupt leaders have used the Falklands as a diversion of their long running internal problems.
No 4, Your Country as you call it , a land stolen from another people attacked without provocation an innocent people in 1982.
No 5, you were again asked through the United Nations to withdraw, but your greed would not let you.
No 6, you caused a military retaliation by a democracy that had to remove you from the islands by force.
No 7, Your actions by first invading us then by refusing to leave when requested caused the nearly one thousand unnecessary deaths of people.
No 8, It is a fact on record that Argentina was prepared to loose half their military occupiers and expend seventy five percent of their munitions while fighting that war. So clearly had every intention of causing a blood shed.
Today forty years on the islanders still get the harassment from your dictators, but this time that is all it is. Propaganda, because now we have a military deterrent that does not allow Argentina to wage war over these islands.
So continue to whinge and fabricate these mythical lies, but remember the world is now better educated about your stolen country.
It is shameful that you place the Falklands claim, which is all that it is, over the well being of the Argentine population and economy.
Fifty percent of your people now live in poverty at a time they should be enjoying democracy that was given back to them when your military dictators were removed from office in 1982.
You have learned absolutely nothing. All you know is the lie implanted within you all. So very sad.
What pile of bullshit stone faced lies.
Jun 15th, 2022 - 11:16 am - Link - Report abuse -4-- How about we start a list of all the instances in which the British Government DID NOT CARE about a people's “right to decide their own future” ? -- We certainly could not with the 2000 word limit these commentaries have!
Oh those don't matter SUDDENTLY? right? Clone Drone hypocrites! Every war ceremony cries out the same ol' song and dance word parade of lies, because it needs to paint over the disgraceful abuse of governments willing to kill people and children to secure their power and ambitions by allowing themselves to proceed with inhuman cold arrogance and pride at the expense of their subjects.
The islanders were used in 1982 and continue to be used today. Manipulated and lied to like most of the world is by their governments. The Islanders didn't know just how much they would needed a war OBVIOUSLY, to feel British and feel like they were something real. That is plain to see now. That war is the only thing that gives them some semblance of apparent solid identity, and Britain knew it would be like that. That's why it made sure it happened instead of seeking a peaceful solution over the territorial dispute. And because it knew it would be a huge blow to Argentina's historical sovereign claim to the islands once they lost, plus a way to specifically turn their social situation into much needed and useful resentment and animosity towards the whole country of Argentina, rather than seeing it as the actions a military occupation that was subjugating Argentina forcing its soldiers and the country to do practically at gun point what they would never have ever wanted to do against a country and people they considered friends. All so they could give the islanders motivation like they never had before. The islanders are now addicted to seeing Argentina as a foe so that the conversation never relaxes down to start seeing the plain truth again, thanks to a handful of ignorant islanders with archaic British imperial mentality.
The only lies and BS is the garbage spiel that comes from yourself, sheer fantasy world you live in, the only people used in 82 were your soldiers with Galtieri using them to prop up his failed corrupt evil dictatorship,
Jun 15th, 2022 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Trimonde, You sound like you are one of those Galterie henchmen who have one desire, to land grab something that does not belong to you.
Jun 15th, 2022 - 12:30 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Why dont you just crawl back under your rock along with all the rest of your negative thinking mates.
You appear to be such a person who would likely act if your ass was on fire you would ask for petrol to put it out.
I suspect apart from brain washing you were likely a conscript in that failed war against the islanders or maybe a relative of one who got his ass kicked out in 82. Either way you are delusional.
Yes, I believe that notion is included in what I said. Let's not forget they were, up until they foolishly stepped too far into their false sense of security, YOUR FRIENDS, who together with Pinochet's dictatorship and the Uruguayan military occupation were pleasantly supported by YOUR COUNTRY and the US in their barbaric work of torturing or exterminating political dissidents. Of course Britain is very shy in highlighting 'this aspect' of the situation as it related to Operation Rosario, and the reason the Junta took it upon its self serving need to violently take back Malvinas in betrayal of Argentina, its people's culture and its Congress. If this had always been properly articulated, today there would be no “Liberation Day” as the islanders and Argentinians would have since then been sharing in their past atrocities memories including an invasion that should never have occurred, and so the sensitivity towards the insulting nature of naming the end of hostilities day Liberation Day would have been there and not allowed to continue adding insult to injury.
Jun 15th, 2022 - 12:54 pm - Link - Report abuse -2But no, this is not the path of a country and society eager and excited about its war involvements and past (highly edited) war history, that today is very much part of the tinny but destructive group of governments that keeps seeking war conflicts for its gains and reasons, managing to be the biggest fueler and producer of wars on the planet, forcing the the rest of us peace faring people to stay submerged in them, suffocating and burying entire countries and cultures
.... only because they have so far managed to successfully produce them outside their own territory, on other continents or other islands. So far. We'll see how their tune changes when wars, death, destruction and military bases come to their own territories.
“ British government chose to sacrifice its people not to defend its territory, but to expand its control”
Jun 15th, 2022 - 10:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hmm I don´t recall United Nations Security Council Resolution 502 saying that.
“The resolution called for the removal only of Argentine forces: this freed Britain to retake the islands militarily, if Argentina did not leave, by exercising its right to self-defence, that was allowed under the UN Charter”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falklands_War#United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_502
649 Argentinians died.. so the Argentine government claims. But they're lying about that too.
Jun 16th, 2022 - 04:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Deliberately lied to soften the blow to the government. And Argentinians believe this nonsense.
In the real world, it's estimated to be at least double that. Likely more.
Trimonde,
Jun 16th, 2022 - 11:30 am - Link - Report abuse +1You are so misinformed. You write only what you have been indoctrinated to write.
Your country was in a diabolical state in 1982 and Galterie was loosing his popularity.
The only way he thought could save his skin and power of control was to cause a diversion.
He just as easily could have attacked chile but chose the innocent Falkland Islanders as his target.
He knew that just a small detachment of Royal Marines could cause him problems so he sent a massive force to overwhelm them.
Argentina was not prepared for the professional resistance that the Royals put up. Argentina even lied to people just like you about their losses in that first day of their illegal invasion.
They even lied right untill the very last day of occupation to their people that they were winning , when it was clear world wide they were loosing from the very first day the Task Force landed.
Today people like you use mythical propaganda to try and keep your illegal claim going.
It is clear it is not having the effect you hoped for. Most of the world and now many of your own people are now learning the truth about Argentina.
We have you to thank for that. Had your country not invaded the world and your people would still be in the dark.
One day you will have to change the course if Argentina from one that is still living 200 years in the past to that if the modern 21st century.
If you dont you will eventually destroy your very existance.
“My country” you ignoramus, “Argentina”, WAS NOT the Military's occupation that took it over paralyzed it's Congress and Constitution, burying all its faculties, and started politically persecuting and torturing our people. That was not Argentina, that was Argentina invaded and taken over by a force that did not define our nation, or its history. Are you able to comprehend that? you bloody idiot. We did not ask for the Military to invade or take back the Malvinas. THEY DID THAT BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO.
Jun 16th, 2022 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse -22nd, you imbecile. Galtieri attempted to take back and recover Malvinas FROM THE UNITED KINGDOM, it was not about “attacking the innocent islanders” you fucking idiot. ... and AGAIN, it wasn't Argentina. IT WAS THEM.
3rd, “Argentina” lied about its loses??? WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WAS HAPPENING THERE. If anyone lied, it was the military authorities at the time and their reporting to whoever.
4th THERE IS NOT ILLEGAL CLAIM TO MALVINAS BY ARGENTINA YOU FUCKING MORON. Argentina had the history that it did on the islands in the form of a running and operational settlement that happened to be attacked by the way by the United States WHEN NO OTHER COUNTRY WAS SETTLED ON THE ISLANDS, AND BRITAIN HAD REMOVED ITS ACTIVE PRESENCE AND INTEREST IN RESOLVING THE MATTER AGAINST SPAIN THEIR DISPUTE 55 YEARS BEFORE our arrival, leaving the islands vacant aside from Spain's continued administration of them. (even though they “felt” they had the god given authority to allow whalers to go there from their royal bench on the other side of the world, without ever officially incorporating the islands into their empire. Why? Because they couldn't! They knew very well Spain considered them their territory. It was not illegal BECAUSE WE CREATED OUR LEGALITY FROM THE MOMENT THE ISLANDS WERE PUT IN BUENOS AIRES'S JURISDICTION BY SPAIN IN 1776. The islands CAME WITH ARGENTINA fOOL! Britain simply decided to rip them off rather than discuss with Argentina the slightly complex situation.
“THERE IS NOT ILLEGAL CLAIM TO MALVINAS BY ARGENTINA”
Jun 16th, 2022 - 05:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Which is the only party that can claim by colour of right the support under international law, of innumerous signed treaties, and declarations.
And
Explicit UN Charter Articles that fully legitimize the UK’s and the Islanders actions.
And
Further supported by numerous judgements of the International Court of Justices et al?
The falklands were not put under Buenos Aires jurisdiction at all Trimonde, they were not Spains to hand over, Britain settled them long before Spain, more fantasies from your indoctrinated brain, and as for your disgusting language, it just shows what a bitter little man you are.
Jun 16th, 2022 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Argentine people were in full support of the Galtieri government when it invaded the Falklands and started the war. This is witnessed by the jubilant gatherings cheering Galitieri on just after that attack.
Jun 16th, 2022 - 07:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No matter the legitimate government or not, the Argentine people were in strong support. They were plenty fine with the Galtieri government then.
And Patrick Edgar is an American, not an Argentine.
Trimonde is trying to justify his indoctrination. You can see that in his loud filthy mouthed response. That kind of talk is only heard from drink or drugs.
Jun 16th, 2022 - 10:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Clearly a very angry deluded person for sure.
Some one else has already stated what I was going to add in as much that Spain did not include the islands in the deal when they granted Argentina self determination. They did not because they could not. They never had ownership which they admitted to Britain.
Just goes to show the lengths that corrupt Argentina will go to brain wash their people.
What you also dont know Trimonde, is that there are a growing number of Argentines learning the truth. Not just one or two but tens of thousands of them. Thanks to the power of the internet.
One day they will be in their millions and then you and your kind will be in the minority.
That is when Argentina will become great again.
They will finally restore real democracy, the mythical claim will pale into insignificant memories and will be removed from your constitution.
Then the entire region will once again live in harmony.
But first they have to deal with the corrupted like you.
Both of you need to shut your mouths and stop talking about a country you don't know nor understand at all, and don't even speak their Language thus you can't understand what they see or what they lived through.
Jun 17th, 2022 - 12:41 pm - Link - Report abuse -2The proof is that you stupidly presume that because the Argentine cheered on Plaza de Mayo that day, means they wanted that war to happen. Yet you did use the word “supported” instead, didn't you? Maybe that's because you intuitively and consciously understand what happened, but you're such evil bastards that you only look for ways to attack and slander by saying things drawn from what things 'could look like'.
And yes Judge Jose you stupid fuck. Britain did not have sovereignty over the archipelago, Spain expelled them in 1771 making it clear the islands were in their territory, moreover the French settled and effectively occupied the islands a couple of years before the British, later executing an official monetary transaction and passing its location rights to Spain, so shut the fuck up. Britain abandoned Port Egmont, and in light of Spain letting them know it was not their territory Spain continued alone administrating running the islands from its new administrative seat in Buenos Aires starting in 1776. All this is documented you moron. Just denying it is not going to help you see it become true stupid. Britain knew very well Spain continued running the islands matters from Buenos Aires and Montevideo. Just because it continued “saying” the islands are ours, and acted like the owner from London 10.000 km away, does not mean they actually were. It only means they continued disputed against Spanish occupation and effective administration AS SPAIN NEVER STOPPED ASIGNING GOVERNORS TO THE ISLANDS UNTIL THEY BECAME ARGENTINIAN GOVERNORS you bloody idiot. Does that sound like “British sovereignty” to you??? Not even today do documentaries and pamphlets have the audacity to say the islands were always British starting from the first British ships that came by
What horrid, disgusting pathetic little boy you are Crymomg, were you bullied at school
Jun 17th, 2022 - 01:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0your indoctrinated history is 100% BS, Spain returned the island s to the UL,Your attitude is disgraceful, swearing is the sign of a clown that has lost the argument, seek medical help before you have an heart attack,
The agreement as actually signed in London on 22 January 1771 merely stated:... ”that the engagement of his said Catholick Majesty [the king of Spain], to restore to his Britannick Majesty the possession of the port and fort called Egmont, cannot nor ought in any wise to affect the question of the prior right of sovereignty of the Malouine islands, otherwise called Falkland's Islands.
Jun 17th, 2022 - 01:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In other words, the question of the prior right of sovereignty was left as it had been before the dispute both countries' rights were left untouched, Britain's as well as Spain's.
'The British Foreign Secretary at the time, Lord Palmerston, ... ... On 27 July 1849, in reply to a question in the House of Commons, he said:
“... a claim had been made many years ago, on the part of Buenos Ayres, to the Falkland Islands, and had been resisted by the British Government. Great Britain had always disputed and denied the claim of Spain to the Falkland Islands, and she was not therefore willing to yield to Buenos Ayres what had been refused to Spain.” “The withdrawal of His Majesty's forces from these islands, in the year 1774, cannot be considered as invalidating His Majesty's just rights. That measure took place in pursuance of a system of retrenchment, adopted at that time by His Britannic Majesty's Government. But the marks and signals of possession and property were left upon the islands. When the Governor took his departure, the British flag remained flying, and all those formalities were observed which indicated the rights of ownership, as well as an intention to resume the occupation of that territory, at a more convenient season.”
Getting it right: the real history of the Falklands/Malvinas by Graham Pascoe and Peter Pepper
In other words Spain ate a great big piece of humble pie to save her from getting her ass kicked.
The British can say whatever they want, and make it sound anyway they want. That doesn't make it right, true, legitimate, just or fair. It's just what they always do. Come up with a story they feel the world must be obliged in going by. SCREW YOURSELVES! Got it?
Jun 17th, 2022 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse -2The indoctrinated Argentinians can come up with lies myths fantasies all they like but it wont change a single fact or truth that the Falklands have never legally been owned by Argentina,
Jun 17th, 2022 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0so take some of your own advice, you nasty little boy,
Trimonde, clearly you are getting very frustrated as you learn the truth from those responding. Swearing is a clear sign that things are not going your way.
Jun 17th, 2022 - 04:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You could settle this argument once and for all by taking your case to the international court of justice.
But the reason you wont is because you actually dont have a case to present because for years everything your governments or individuals have imagined are just that, images of the mind that have no substance.
You would loose such a challange and you know it.
You cant afford to do that for fear of causing a new upset within Argentina.
You can swear all you like , even though that is considered a childish tantrum, but the bottom line is we islanders have the moral high ground on this one and you cant do nowt about it.
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