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Dissertation: Spanish-English contact in the Falkland Islands
By Yliana Rodríguez (*) for MercoPress – A cosmic coincidence happened to me some months ago. I was notified that my PhD defense committee only coincided on June 14, meaning that would be the date to defend my thesis about Falkland Islands English in contact with Spanish. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesGee whiz - This academic knows how to use 20 words where one will do..............
Jul 29th, 2022 - 11:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0She has described a study of Spanish and English in the Falklands and managed to avoid using any single example, while just using one single Spanish word in the whole article (gaucho).
If this is not a definition of academic waffle (as well as being a prime candidate for the Ignobel awards) then I don't know what is.
How very, very interesting.
Jul 29th, 2022 - 11:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0The fact that Spanish names/words from the Gaucho era are in the language today, does seem to make a mockery of Argentinian expulsion/exclusion claims.
After all, if they kicked out all the Spanish speaking Argys in 1833 and implanted English speakers, then refused to allow any migration from Argentina, where did they get all the Spanish words from???
Understandable that they don’t use modern Argy Spanish words though.
RedBaron
The thesis will/should contain the evidence supporting the conclusions outlined above.
‘My research output includes a broad array of data’.
The data would also be (for me anyway) an interesting read.
Perhaps some of the Islanders here would care to comment on the statements:
‘Maps and Islanders’ narratives constantly refer to them, and locals are well aware of their origin’???
And:
‘light up old Islanders eyes when asked about their meaning or use’???
Pugol - Apart from the oft used 'Che', I can't recall any Spanish words or phrases in Falklands' English from my lengthy stay (in Stanley). Conversations were all perfectly understandable modern English. As I understand it, the Falklands dialect and accent lends more to a Cornish background .
Jul 29th, 2022 - 12:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One single word...gaucho. Imagine how poor Gauchito Drink feels! They wouldn't even know he was “a little gaucho.”
Jul 29th, 2022 - 04:52 pm - Link - Report abuse +4Red Baron - “ This academic knows how to use 20 words where one will do..............”
Jul 29th, 2022 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I would say exactly the opposite. She is describing a complicated, academic subject and using technical terms exactly to avoid using using “20 words” (e.g “ A name used by a group or category of people to refer to themselves or their language, as opposed to a name given to them by other groups”), where one ( “endonym” ) will do.
If you are not interested in academic study, fair enough, but to describe this as “academic waffle” just because you may not understand the terms used, is unfair.
I found the summary of her work very interesting.
The English language has been heard on the Islands since 1765 - continuously since 1771.
Jul 30th, 2022 - 01:18 am - Link - Report abuse +3https://falklandstimeline.wordpress.com/
Red Baron
Jul 30th, 2022 - 02:18 am - Link - Report abuse +1When you were here did you notice anyone talking about ‘camp’ rather than ‘the country’ when referring to anywhere outside of Stanley?
Did you notice that the Spanish names are used for horse gear?
Did you notice anyone talk about pasa libres?
There are lots of examples.
Roger the Rozzer
Jul 30th, 2022 - 12:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0This article is about the influence Spanish has had on the form of English spoken in the Islands. Which Jo Bloggs has provided examples of, certainly there are Spanish place names there and you can see these on a map.
My point is for that to happen there had to be Spanish speakers there to influence the language.
Yet Argentina insists Spanish speakers had either been expelled or were excluded from the Islands.
Clearly a more diverse cultural heritage in the Islands than Argentina argues is the case.
But hey, the evidence does not support the Argy version of events, no change there then.
Jo- Did you read that I specifically said 'during my stay in Stanley'? Of course I know about the Spanish origin of Camp and Yes, I have two horses of my own but I did not go riding on the Islands so I was not aware of the tack names. No - no-one mentioned pasa libres (clarification?)/
Jul 30th, 2022 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0However, you are missing the point - Out of a Mercopress article of over 1,000 words, there were no examples apart from gaucho. Instead, there was a lot of academic verbal diarrhoea which failed to make a case and would have put off any casual reader.
Who needs an expensively taxpayer funded PhD on this subject anyway?
Mr. RedBaron...
Jul 30th, 2022 - 08:22 pm - Link - Report abuse -3It is YOU that is missing the point..., not me auld..., half Kelper breed foe..., Mr. Jo Bloggs...
- This is indeed a typical Mercopress article of over 1,000 words, with no examples apart from Gaucho.., redacted with a lot of academic verbal diarrhoea which fail to make a case.., designed to put off any casual reader....
Who needs to read the original Yliana Rodríguez PhD...?
Who needs an expensively taxpayer funded PhD on any subject anyway?
When we have our Turnip Common Sense that tells us that Earth is..., of course..., flat...
Capisce...?
Nah, bowl shaped or all the water would run off.
Jul 31st, 2022 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse 0“ Bowl shaped Earth”..., right...!
Jul 31st, 2022 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse -2You see what I mean..., Mr. RedBaron...?
Turnip Common Sense has a sensible answer for any question...!
Who needs an expensively taxpayer funded PhD on any subject..., right...?
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