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Argentina asks Boric's gov't to explain alleged Falkland-bound flights

Thursday, August 4th 2022 - 09:49 UTC
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Argentina's Ambassador to Santiago Rafael Bielsa Wednesday filed a formal note before the Chilean Government of President Gabriel Boric Font asking for explanations regarding the alleged unauthorized flights over Argentine airspace presumed to be on their way to the Falkland Islands. Read full article

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  • Judge Jose

    Just tell them to sod off, pathetic politicians,

    Aug 04th, 2022 - 10:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    Perhaps Argentina should abide by the treaties that she is signatory to.
    Chicago Convention which she signed on 4 June 1946. Also known as:
    The International Air Services Transit Agreement, 1944
    containing what has come to be known as ”The Two Freedoms”.
    1) The privilege to fly across the territory of a state without landing;
    2) The privilege to land for non-traffic purposes; which she signed on 4 June 1946.

    Aug 04th, 2022 - 10:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Falklands-Free

    Argentina will mean about absolutely everything that has a connection to the islands.
    Chile should simply fly through their own airspace in the Beagle Channel. That would sort the whinging Argentines out.
    It is true that they signed up to the international air traffic convention but as we all know, nothing that Argentina signs to is ever adhered to. They bend it break every rule they can.
    That is the power of indoctrination. Alters ones mind from reality.

    Aug 04th, 2022 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tænk

    To the former-honorable Mike Summers...:

    https://en.mercopress.com/2022/06/01/argentina-switches-on-new-radar-to-monitor-south-atlantic-airspace/comments#comment521622

    It works OK Micky... and it took less than 2 months to stop your little haughty game...

    Please try again...
    Chuckle..., chuckle...

    Aug 04th, 2022 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Judge Jose

    As the old saying goes T, small things amuse small minds,

    Aug 04th, 2022 - 03:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    ” Perhaps, Argentina should abide by the treaties that she is signatory to.”

    Since neither Chile nor the UK have refuted the Chicago Convention, they can happily, legally ignore Argentine, illegal demands.
    A simple notification is all their requirement, as Argentina demands don’t fly.

    Aug 04th, 2022 - 05:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • mollymauk

    This story has a whiff of bullshit to me. Various online press articles refer to “5 aircraft” over a number of days, with one saying “Although it was not possible to determine whether they were civil or military [aircraft], given the course they had after being detected by the radar and their subsequent departure – 350 kilometers out to sea – their safest destination was the Malvinas.”
    I somehow doubt that 5 aircraft from Chile have unexpectedly arrived in the Falklands without anyone noticing or commenting on the local gossip sites.
    More likely, their wonderful new radar has been tracking birds :-)

    Aug 04th, 2022 - 07:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Roger Lorton

    New radar system?

    Ghosts in the machine?

    Anyone happen to notice five planes landing at MPA?

    Aug 04th, 2022 - 10:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    Hummm, 5 Aircraft in a matter of days, flying west to East and one would presume back again, or does this radar only work one way.

    Probably traffickers, moving quantities of ‘miracle Malvinas peaty soil’ to smuggle into Argentina, for parades/agricultural shows and little pots for the masses.

    Aug 04th, 2022 - 10:03 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Jo Bloggs

    I don’t know what’s funnier. That Argentina hitherto didn’t have surveillance capabilities in the south of their country; or that their brilliant new radar can’t tell whether aircraft are civil or military.

    What a bunch of clowns.

    Aug 04th, 2022 - 11:47 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • imoyaro

    How about “NOYFB!” Or something like that...

    Aug 05th, 2022 - 01:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tænk

    Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..., Mr. Lorton & Mr.Bloggs...

    https://www.businessinsider.com/royal-navy-updates-loose-lips-sink-ships-poster-to-be-about-twitter-2018-1

    Capisce...?

    Aug 05th, 2022 - 07:51 am - Link - Report abuse -4
  • FitzRoy

    350km out to sea? Their “new” radar system can't reach that far. It is just a mobile battlefield system with limited reach.

    Aug 05th, 2022 - 08:26 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Tænk

    *Oh what tangled web
    they weave
    When first they practice
    To deceive

    *(A Scot 'bout them Sassenachs)

    Aug 05th, 2022 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • darragh

    'Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive'

    is the correct quote oh illiterate one

    A Scot (Sir Walter) 'bout them Scots

    You can always rely on old Tinkypoo to get it wrong

    Aug 05th, 2022 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Tænk

    Excuse moi... me dear Darragh Paddy..., but...

    - As I can se by your above “Quote” of that clever Scott Scot..., you seem to be familiar with the “Quotation Rule” of circunscribing one's “Quoted Text” between “Quotation Marks”...

    - Now..., can you see any “Quoting Marks” on me above post...???
    Nope..., right...???
    That's because I didn't quote nobody...., laddie...!

    Geeeeeee..., these Brainwashhed Anglo Turnips are as Turnipy as Liz Truss...!
    https://metro.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/SEC_114912261.jpg?quality=90&strip=all

    Chuckle..., chuckle...

    Aug 05th, 2022 - 04:01 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Jo Bloggs

    Speaking of flights, I have to say I was surprised nobody from Argentina decided to come over for the 40th anniversary Liberation Day events. I thought they’d be keen but it seems not.

    Aug 05th, 2022 - 07:09 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Tænk

    Heeeloooo..., Jo....
    Tell me..., you that have such a watchful eye...
    Have you maybe noticed any unusual airship activity on them Isles lately...?

    Aug 05th, 2022 - 07:33 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Pugol-H

    Well, one of two things is happening here.

    Either they are wrong because the equipment doesn’t work properly, or they don’t know how to use it, or both. In which case nothing will ever be heard of this again.

    Or, there is a lot of activity going on down there they didn’t know anything about (which the British would know all about, their radar has a range of 1240 NMi), in that scenario there are many possibilities. None of them good for Argentina.

    Either way, I shall await developments with interest, because either way, it will be a laugh at their expense.

    FitzRoy
    The manufacturer’s claim a 170 NMi (315 Km) range for this kit and a 240 NMi (444 Km) range for the bigger version, of which they plan to install two.

    That is against conventional aircraft.

    Ersatz Stink
    Wots next then, famous miss quotes of Cairngorm MacWomble the Terrible???

    Aug 05th, 2022 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Jo Bloggs

    Nothing to see here, Think. Not even an Argie in a puddle hopper and no media interest whatsoever. Why do you think it is that nobody wanted to come over from Argentina for the 40th? No interest I guess. Some deadbeat on here a while back said they had big plans for the 40th. Was that you, Think?

    As for that surveillance radar, give me a break. This story is already in the landfill with fish and chip grease all over it. We have lots of radars here. Call us if you want to know about any mysterious aeronautical activity.

    I learned a new word today. Pegging.

    Aug 06th, 2022 - 06:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tænk

    Mr. Jo Bloggs...

    You say...:
    “I learned a new word today. Pegging.”

    I say...
    Hmmmmmmmm...
    Ya must be closing them 60's....
    Ya must have been wedlocked 'bout half of that time...
    Hig time ya luuuve.y Missus learned you 'bout “pegging”..., matey...

    Congrats....

    Aug 06th, 2022 - 08:25 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Pugol-H

    The plot thickens, well the Argys aren’t getting any cleverer that is for sure.

    Chuckles at the ready?

    https://www.clarin.com/politica/crece-tension-chile-supuestos-vuelos-argentina-rumbo-malvinas_0_aquB3JAk7P.html

    ‘military sources now consider “more useful to control what comes out of the west” that is, from Chile, than what happens in the Falklands’

    A very telling comment, now they have a capability they point it west, well nothing but see to sea east, as it can’t see very far.

    ‘in the same week that the Chilean Air Force received two aircraft from the United Kingdom for early warning, exploration and aerospace reconnaissance’

    I guess they can now see much further out to sea, in the Argentinian sea, than Argentina can see, if you see what I mean

    ‘the always eloquent governor of Fuego, Antarctica and Islands of the South Atlantic, Gustavo Melella’, said:

    ‘in the presence of an event of extreme gravity before which it is necessary to act with the greatest firmness and forcefulness, in a coordinated manner’.

    Positively Churchillian, straight from the Boris (Johnson that is, not Baldric of Chile) phrase book, ripping stuff, marvellous.

    Except, da da daaah, the culprit unmasked, Colonel Mustard in the library with a pipe you cry, oh no comes the reply, it was:

    ‘5 helicopters that flew from Punta Arenas to the oil platforms at the eastern mouth of the Strait’

    ‘Invasion of airspace: They attribute the leak to the press, an internal confrontation in the Argentine Ministry of Defense, which takes the opportunity to generate conflict with the government of Gabriel Baldric’.

    Chuckle? Oh no, LMFAO.

    Aug 06th, 2022 - 11:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tænk

    TWIMC...

    - Some Engrish Turnip just linked to a newspaper article written by Miss Natasha Niebieskikwiat...!

    As I could never dream of discussing a lady's reputation in public..., I can only refer to the recorded opinion of me Engrish counterpart..., Mr. Roger Lorton...

    His telegonically embossed copper manners do permit him to be brutally blunt and direct about this silly lass...

    Chuckle...,chuckle...

    Aug 07th, 2022 - 06:48 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Terence Hill

    Since neither Chile nor the UK have refuted the Chicago Convention, they can happily, legally ignore Argentine, illegal demands.
    A simple notification is all their requirement, as Argentina demands don’t fly.

    Posted 6 days ago - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Jo Bloggs

    Think

    If only I was still in my 60s. Married almost 50 years and never heard of pegging. After seeing what it is I will leave it up to William and his pals.

    Posted 6 days ago - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tænk

    Hmmmmmmmm....

    An almost mature man in his seventies still grumpy as a young 55 years old boy..
    Something ain't working properly... Perhaps you shouldn't leave all the fun to them Royals...

    Capisce...?

    Posted 6 days ago - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Pugol-H

    So it was ‘blue flowers’ blowing in the wind that they detected then? Or just ‘Polka’ dots on the screen?

    Nothing to do with radars pointing west and Argentina’s sea bed dispute with Chile in that area, not to mention oil rigs and the capacity to supply them, AWACs to watch over it all.

    Must have come as a nasty shock to Argy Colonial Command, just how far ahead the Chileans are in controlling the disputed area. Oil/Gas and all.

    This time Pani Niebieskikwiatowa is not talking about Las Malvinas and the British, but Argentina and Chile, you would do well to listen to what she says, on this occasion at least.

    What is the betting that Baldric continues to support Argentina’s position on the Malvinas, but pursues Chile’s claim to the Oil/Gas fields.

    One eye over your shoulder is advised here.

    LMFAO.

    Posted 6 days ago - Link - Report abuse 0

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