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Argentina rejects naval exercise in Brazil because of Falklands' HMS Forth

Monday, September 19th 2022 - 23:04 UTC
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Argentina has dropped out of this year's UNITAS annual naval exercises sponsored by the United States, with the participation of South American and other extra-region naval units, which are currently taking place in the Atlantic organized by Brazil. Read full article

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  • Judge Jose

    Argentine politicians, are just like petulant children, if they dont get their way then they throw their toys out the pram, what a complete shower of sh......te

    Sep 19th, 2022 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Tænk

    TWIMC...

    - If them Yanks desire to invite them Bruts to their UNITAS Armed Farces exercises..., they are free to do so...

    - If we Argies desire to tell them Yanks to stick their UNITAS Armed Farces exercises where the sun never shines..., we are free to do so...

    Simples...

    Sep 19th, 2022 - 11:11 am - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Judge Jose

    It is Argentina who lose out, nothing more, it is called cutting of your nose to spite your face,

    Sep 19th, 2022 - 11:32 am - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Falklands-Free

    Argentina probably does not have a suitable ship to match any of the other countries, so rather than look stupid, they would rather create this smoke screen of not participating alongside superior countries .
    They do an awful lot of complaining and spitting out dummies.
    No wonder they are in the mess they are in. They have the mentality that if we cant do it our way we wont play.
    That is a clear sign of being a bad looser.
    One day their very country could be threatened by another foreign power and would likely plead for help from places even like Britain.
    They are a demoralised country and it shows.
    Time Argentina moved into the 21st century.

    Sep 19th, 2022 - 11:47 am - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Marcelo The Goat

    Such children

    Sep 19th, 2022 - 12:22 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • The English Pirate

    What a shower of utter belters, they don't have a navy to turn up with anyway!

    Sep 19th, 2022 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Tænk

    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh....
    - All them precious tonnes of navy diesel fuel we Argies have just saved...
    - Chuckle..., chuckle..., rechuckle..., requetechuckle..., requeterecontrachuckle...

    Sep 19th, 2022 - 03:11 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Jo Bloggs

    Oh no! Surely the exercise won’t proceed without Argentina. The whole of South America supports them in their claim over the Falkland Islands. They would never invite the UK to participate… that would be a huge insult…

    Chuckle chuckle

    Think
    I thought the only ship Argentina still had was ARA Libertad. No diesel required there… or has it been detained in another port somewhere?

    Chuckle chuckle ;-)

    Sep 19th, 2022 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Tænk

    Mr. Jo Bloggs...

    Please read the article before commenting...

    A) No South American Nation invited no Engrish to this Yankee Armed Farces party...
    It was the mighty USA that invited them Engrish to their own Yankee Armed Farces party...
    Nobody offended by that fact...Yankee message duly received..., comprehended and archived...

    B) AGAIN..., if you cared to read the article before commenting on it..., you would find out that even that sweet freckled Lisa Lass knows that we Argies have some OPV's tasked with Maritime/Fisheries Patrol Operations, Critical Infrastructure & Border Protection, Confined and Shallow Water Operations, Helicopter Support, USV & UAV Operations and some other boring but necessary stuff...
    Very similar to the ship the Engrish Navy has in its Pirate base in Malvinas..., btw...
    Just newer, prettier and frenchier...

    Capisce...?

    Sep 19th, 2022 - 04:34 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Don Alberto

    Argentina had to find some - any - excuse for not joining with all the naval force they have above sea level: a four man dinghy with a malfunctioning outboard motor.

    Sep 19th, 2022 - 05:02 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Tænk

    Geeeeeee....
    Yet another ignorant Brainwashed Anglo Turnip...!

    Btw..., Mr. Bloggs..., how's your school French...?
    https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classe_Gowind#Marine_argentine

    Chuckle..., chuckle...

    Sep 19th, 2022 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Monkeymagic

    Another nail in coffin of the corrupt Peronist Argie claim on Falkland Island Territory.

    Renamed “How can we keep our ignorant peasants distracted whilst we rape them blind”

    chuckle chuckle

    Sep 19th, 2022 - 05:31 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Jo Bloggs

    Poor old Think

    Why would Brazil allow the exercises to happen in their waters- US invitation to the UK or not- if they actually supported the Argentine claim?

    Also, isn’t it you on here that constantly tries (badly) to convince everybody that the IS is on the Argentine side?

    Sep 19th, 2022 - 09:25 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Tænk

    Rich auld Mr. Bloggs....

    - I Tænk you really could use some holidays away from them windblown Isles...

    All that isolation is making you as foul mouthed as freckled Lisa and as Malvinocentric as Mr.Falklands-Free...

    Not a positive development..., I Tænk...

    Sep 20th, 2022 - 12:41 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Falklands-Free

    Taenk, For a little Country like the Falklands, we do very well for ourselves. We dont have debt, we trade with other Latin American countries even though your lot maintain an embargo against us.
    Just think of the financial gain you could have been getting by trading peacefully with us. But no your lot still wage a political war against us.
    That in itself does not portray Argentina as a great country in the world arena.
    So no we are not going senile. We are still rapidly going forward and the population continues to grow. Many people want to live here because they know they will be respected.
    Even some Argentines have opted to come and live here accepting our way of life, which is far better than that which Argentina currently offers.
    Few want to live in poverty.

    Sep 20th, 2022 - 03:48 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Liberato

    Falklands-Free, There is no country in there. We can discuss about Palestine which was accepted by the UN as such. But Malvinas remains being (for the world) in a colonial situation under a UN process of decolonization.
    So financial gain? by trading with a colony we consider ours?. keep exploiting the argentine sea or do as the many others british colonies that uses money laundering to keep the “paradise”.
    Cheers.

    Sep 20th, 2022 - 10:01 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Falklands-Free

    Liberato. You need to do your homework. we are a country and its called the Falkland islands. You have been brainwashed to believe we are not. I cant fix that . We made a choice that we wish to remain a part of the British overseas territory and that has been lodged with the UN. There is no colony or the need to decolonise because we the people have made that choice. You wont accept it because it does not fit with your ideals. You can either take your case to the ICJ or simply shut to hell up, because we are going nowhere and neither is our allegiance to Great Britain.
    So bring it on come and take our country from us if you think you can, we are waiting for you. All you have is your indoctrinated hatred and nothing more. You no longer have a stable economy. You have a disgraceful poverty rate of half the people living in Argentina. You are in international debt for billions of dollars. Your so called neighbours don't truly support you as they are doing business with us. That must really hurt your pride.
    Argentina has never ever owned any part of the Falkland islands and its dependencies and you know it. If you thought you had a solid case you would have taken it to the ICJ long before now.
    When you feel you are better qualified to condemn us then we truly would like to hear from you until then go and take a running jump . We are viable community that wish to keep strong ties with Great Britain who we have a hell of a lot more faith in than anything coming out of Argentina.
    The day we will believe you want to be a reasonable country again will be the day you hand back all the stolen land of Patagonia to the rightful people.

    Sep 21st, 2022 - 12:54 am - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Liberato

    Falklands-Free, no brainwashing. facts. If you are a “country” under a british law. It does not imply that for the international community the islands are a country. And it has nothing to do with “brainwashing” Argentina.
    There are like 16 Non Self-Governing Territories under the UN decolonization process. Malvinas its one of them.
    You may like it or not. You may think you are a country, but failed to convince the UN and even so, you insist to accuse Argentina for treating the islands with the same definition the United Nations uses to describe the islands.
    And even so, Malvinas is not the only territory under british colonialism currently going through the UN decolonization process, so you cant even accuse Argentina to lie to the UN regarding your situation.
    Our political, economic or social situation has nothing to do with your own situation. You are another “country” remember?.
    There is a population of 99.7% of british origins living in the islands. Where is the massive influx of inmigrants blessing and accepting your “way of life”?.

    Here is a game. You have to guess where these lucky “falklanders” workers were originally born?.:
    Director of Health and Social Services Thomas (Tom) Bale from the British Forces South Atlantic Islands
    The Royal Falkland Islands Police, Jeff McMahon
    Fire chief Gardner Fiddes CMgr FCMI
    Director of Emergency Services, Andy Bell
    Falklands Chief Justice James Lewis
    Governor of the Falkland Islands, Nigel Phillips
    Falkland Islands Senior Magistrate Sarah Whitby
    Director of Emergency Services and Island Security and Principal Immigration Officer Ms PamelaTrevillion
    Director of Education Marie Horton
    Director of Health and Social Services David O’Neill

    The list, its a little bit outdated but it serves the purpose the same with the little changes. I was hoping to see 6 islanders and 4 of our chilean brothers but no, those post are requested and fullfilled in Britain to Britain born ciitzens. What a pity for the colonial regime, i mean...

    Sep 21st, 2022 - 02:12 am - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Falklands-Free

    Liberato. You are literally clutching at straws. Half of those people no longer live here because the fact is they are contracted in by our own local government to serve periods of between two and four years.
    Incidentally many of those contracted in are from around sixty other countries.
    You have no idea.
    The British presence on the islands if you term all islanders British is far from your imaginative figures.
    We are a very diverse culture not one as you think.
    In comparison Argentina has a larger British, Welsh , Scottish And Irish percentage than we do.
    Actual islanders born here believe they are in a minority because many of them are not British by decent.
    We are indeed classified as a country and you only have to look up our address and you will see it clearly stated. We even have an area code.
    Your theories are just that theories and it is about time you started checking the facts.
    So moan on as much as you like it wont change our status.
    If you want to be politically correct then maybe returning all the stolen land in Argentina might be a good idea.
    We know far more about you than you realise because our education system does not brainwash us. Oh and before you challange that our teachers come from places like New Zealand, Australia, africa, Europe etc. So dont start saying All British because it is not true.
    Now be a decent fellow and head down to your nearest library and school and state those facts to your masters.
    You will be a much better person afterward I am sure.
    Oh and stop being so full of contempt for others.
    All that does is leads to more contempt from the responder.in other words fight like with like.

    Sep 21st, 2022 - 09:58 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Malvinense 1833

    Well with that criterion we can make the Isle of Wight a country, we usurped it for many years and then, the new inhabitants, the Argielanders can claim to continue belonging to Argentina, wonderful right?
    As for land returns I think the British don't have the moral high ground to talk about it when they have robbed and killed people around the world for centuries. But let's put this aside. On many occasions, children and adolescents from different schools in the country visited the islands, but nobody received them. It was a great rudeness to them.
    Can you tell me if that is not despising people?

    Sep 21st, 2022 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Liberato

    Falklands-Free, that list was composed and is composed by people born in Britain or another “BOT”. Those jobs are requested for and recruited in Britain. Those jobs manage practically everything in the islands.
    Where did Jeff McMahon born?. Gardner Fiddes? Andy Bell? James Lewis? Nigel Phillips? Sarah Whitby? PamelaTrevillion? Marie Horton? David O’Neill?.
    The list is outdated, But if you want we can actually update it with the new names with new people imported from Britain.
    The british census in the colonial regime showed the figures i mentioned about its origins. Except in the last census where people were born how they feeled insted of nationality and origins.
    You are not classify as a country. For the UN, the islands are a colonial territory which sovereignty is under dispute between Argentina and the UK.
    Malvina's UN status:
    https://www.un.org/dppa/decolonization/en/content/falkland-islands-malvinas#:~:text=The%20Falkland%20Islands%20(Malvinas)*,Charter%20of%20the%20United%20Nations.

    This is not a theorie. It is a fact you can check on the UN webpage right away.

    The rest of what you said is dust in the wind, if you want a poetic definition of a b....t

    Sep 21st, 2022 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Malvinense 1833

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH2w6Oxx0kQ

    Sep 21st, 2022 - 02:31 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Falklands-Free

    Liberato. Quite clearly you dont want to listen to the truth because our truth does not fit in your ideals.
    Contrary to what you say these positions are advertised both locally and internationally.
    Britain has nothing to do with these job adverts, but again you only hear what you want to hear.
    Taiwan and the Falklands fishing have recently created a business deal , but I guess you will no doubt twist that to be part of a British deal.
    Does not matter what you write. We live in the here and now and right now our country is forging ahead while your country is stuck firmly in a rut.
    Propaganda is all you have to offer and is your excuse to divert the Argentine peoples attention away from what is actually happening in their own self destructing country.
    So argue and construe all you want. We are doing just fine on our islands and there is absolutely nothing you can do or say will change our future.

    Sep 21st, 2022 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Liberato

    Falklands-Free, you said it yourself, it is your truth. And your truth differs from mine and from the United Nations.
    About Taiwan, We have not recognized Taiwan as a nation separated from China as most of the World. Including the US agreement to the policy of one China.

    “Propaganda is all you have”. Quite the contrary. What i said is pretty much what the UN said. That Malvinas islands are not a country. They are a Non Self-Governing Territory under a UN process of decolonization, which sovereignty is in dispute between the UK and Argentina.

    Sep 21st, 2022 - 05:07 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Judge Jose

    Libby, just repeating the same old waffle and drivel over and over again,

    The UN General Assembly has little to no interest in your dubious claim, the C24 is a toothless irrelevant tin pot out dated group of members who are hardly a bunch to be respected, Falklands Free said it clearly, they are there to stay, the population increases with people from all over the world settling in the islands, independence will come in time and there is a big fat nothing that you or your nut job Peronists can do about it, for the 100th time stop wasting your life in a myth and a fantasy that is NEVER going to happen,

    Sep 21st, 2022 - 05:21 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Liberato

    Judge Jose:
    “The UN General Assembly has little to no interest in your dubious claim”. Nevertheless....
    “ the C24 is a toothless irrelevant tin pot out dated group...”. Nevertheless......
    “..... stop wasting your life in a myth and a fantasy that is NEVER going to happen,”. Nevertheless, the islands remains being one of the 10 territories under british colonialism going through the UN process of decolonization. And if you dont beliece me, go to the source: www.UN.org

    Sep 21st, 2022 - 09:01 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Judge Jose

    And just what do you think the C24 committee will do,? the answer is a big fat nothing,
    Libby you live in a fantasy world,

    Sep 21st, 2022 - 09:25 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Terence Hill

    “Islands remains being one of the 10 territories under british colonialism going through the UN process of decolonization”

    No, they don’t since their Referendum, as they have met all their Charter requirements.

    ”Decolonization (American English) or Decolonisation (British English) is the undoing of colonialism ... The fundamental right to self-determination is identified by the United Nations as core to decolonization, allowing not only independence, but also other ways of decolonization. The United Nations Special Committee on Decolonization has stated that in the process of decolonization there is no alternative to the colonizer but to allow a process of self-determination.”
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decolonization

    Sep 22nd, 2022 - 10:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Liberato

    Terence Hill, “No, they don’t since their Referendum...”. Last time i chequed they were still on the colony list:
    https://www.un.org/dppa/decolonization/en/nsgt

    Sep 22nd, 2022 - 10:54 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Judge Jose

    Do you realise how silly you sound Libby, your obsession with the word colony and where people come from to work in the Falklands and a silly little list which by the way is between Britain and the BOTs to sort out as none of them yet choose independence keep living in your fantasy world grasping at any little straw you can,

    Sep 22nd, 2022 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinense 1833

    Sorry but you haven't been able to refute Liberato link, so who lives in a fantasy world?
    https://www.un.org/dppa/decolonization/en/nsgt

    Sep 22nd, 2022 - 01:31 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Judge Jose

    Malvi you obviously live in the same alternate reality as Libby, i dont need to refute anything, Libby says, Self determination over rules any garbage you spiel,
    the islanders choose their own future and nothing you do or say will change that,

    Sep 22nd, 2022 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinense 1833

    judge José
    If an Argentine President visits the islands, would they listen to him?

    Sep 22nd, 2022 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Falklands-Free

    Malvinense 1833. There was an Argentine president here in 1982 but the islanders did not listen to him because he was just like some of you, a dictator.

    Sep 22nd, 2022 - 02:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Judge Jose

    1 No Argentine President will ever be allowed to visit unless his/her attitude towards the islanders changed.
    2 If he or she did ever visit the Falklands of course they would be allowed to speak, but the Malvinas myth would be destroyed in seconds,

    Sep 22nd, 2022 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinense 1833

    Falklands-Free Judge Jose

    Attitude? Why don't they receive children and adolescents from schools? Why don't they allow flights from other cities in Argentina?
    Why don't they allow people to meet?

    Sep 22nd, 2022 - 02:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Falklands-Free

    Malvinense 1833. You answered your own question. We dont allow flights in and out of Argentina because so long as your government continues its stance towards us in a sovereignty claim and maintains an embargo towards is as well as tries to control our right to travel through their air space. A thing else you want to know about.

    Sep 22nd, 2022 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinense 1833

    Falklands-Free

    Why don't they receive children and adolescents from schools?

    Sep 22nd, 2022 - 03:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Judge Jose

    I am sure the Falklanders would allow Argentinian children to visit the Falklands, but not on Argentine Government aircraft, which Kirchner.Fernandez would use as propaganda, some of your people that are allowed to visit the war cemetery behave appallingly, even crapping on the floors of hotels and pubs,

    Sep 22nd, 2022 - 04:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Terence Hill

    “Last time i chequed they were still”

    I guess you missed the winning-hand, that is their compliance and completion of their UN Charter obligations. One Referendum, and their decolonized.

    “Self Determination enshrined over Territorial Integrity

    The United Nations Fourth Committee has rejected by a vote of 61 - 40 the attempt, made through a draft resolution at the last decolonization Committee of 24 seminar, to include a specific exclusion of territories affected by a sovereignty dispute, such as the Falkland Islands and Gibraltar, from the omnibus resolution that reaffirms inalienable right of self-determination of 11 territories.”
    https://en.mercopress.com/2008/10/23/self-determination-enshrined-over-territorial-integrity

    Sep 22nd, 2022 - 06:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinense 1833

    Judge Jose

    The planes are not from the argentine government, they are planes from the Argentine state. They should allow landing on the islands, so people could travel with any airline from the islands to any point in Argentina and the continent.
    In the same way with the ships, the ships of the islands under the british flag until talks begin.
    With trade and tourism all parties would win. It is not so difficult.
    The current situation is ridiculous.

    Sep 23rd, 2022 - 11:51 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Judge Jose

    Malvi, any Argentine flagged aircraft would be used as propaganda, remember your idiotic athlete who ran on to a British war memorial and raised your flag, that was a disgusting disgraceful thing to do, lift your pointless embargo, recognise the Falklanders as people stop the bullying and harassment and the continued attempts to alienate the islands from the rest of South America and then you may be allowed to fly in to the Falklands, in the mean time there is a plane that arrives from Chile each week
    , apply to the Falklands government to allow your school children to have a visit and book seats on that plane,

    Sep 23rd, 2022 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Malvinense 1833

    I did not remember the incident of the athlete, then I remembered it, I looked for the video and I did not find it, it was a commercial, of course I do not agree with it.
    One or two people destroyed the Argentine cemetery on the islands. And I am sure that the vast majority of people on the islands do not have that behavior. You cannot judge everyone by one person.
    Let us suppose that the Argentine government recognizes the islander government, in exchange the islander government would accept to share the sovereignty of the islands?

    Sep 23rd, 2022 - 01:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Judge Jose

    Malvi, we are going back to the same old argument regarding sovereignty if in the future the islanders choose joint ownership then that is their choice and their rite, its not for the UK to say, its the same with Bermuda, Virgin islands,Turks and Caicos, etc its their home and they say what their future is, before this crack pot Argentine government was elected relations between the Falklands, Argentina and the UK were vastly improved, but from day one since being elected it has been nothing but aggression towards them and the ridiculous indoctrination of your children, may be if they went on a 40 year charm offensive then who knows what the future may bring,
    I dont hate Argentina, the islanders dont hate Argentina but in common we all detest your nut job aggressive government,

    Sep 23rd, 2022 - 02:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinense 1833

    Judge Jose

    It is a pity not being able to get out of the stagnation, of the intransigent positions, more than anything thinking about future generations.
    The feeling is mutual, there is no hatred towards the british or towards the inhabitants of the islands.
    Regards.

    Sep 23rd, 2022 - 03:00 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Judge Jose

    For once Malvi I agree with you,

    Sep 23rd, 2022 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Malvinense 1833

    Judge Jose

    Surely we will disagree in the following posts, but we have taken a small step.

    Sep 23rd, 2022 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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