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FCDO Minister reaffirms Falklands' people right to decide their own future

Saturday, February 4th 2023 - 11:11 UTC
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The Falkland Islands Government has twitted that last Thursday David Rutley MP, Foreign, Commonwealth, and Development Office Minister for the Americas and the Caribbean met with an elected member of the Falklands' Legislative Assembly. Read full article

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  • Tænk

    TWIMC...
    Tory liar, liar, pants on fire... :-)
    https://youtu.be/HIcWD1SZBng

    Feb 04th, 2023 - 09:49 am - Link - Report abuse -6
  • FitzRoy

    @Tænk, or Wænk or whatever, what is he lying about? You know, a lot of the time, when I see the rubbish you write, I think of a lone man raving in the desert. He is correct, the people of the Falklands are entitled to determine their own future.

    Feb 04th, 2023 - 10:01 am - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Tænk

    TWIMC...

    “The people of the Falklands are entitled to determine their own future.” ...,The tory says...

    And the people of Luhansk, Donetsk & Crimea are entitled to be killed by Brutish Challengers..., the tory does...

    Capisce...?

    Feb 04th, 2023 - 10:42 am - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Brasileiro

    The English can decide their future. We South Americans decide ours.

    And we don't want English around here. Therefore, we have every right to isolate the English more and more.

    That simple.

    Feb 04th, 2023 - 01:55 pm - Link - Report abuse -6
  • FitzRoy

    @Brasileiro The English? People with status in the Falklands are Falkland Islanders; their own government, their own economy. They are no more English than you are Portuguese or Spanish, or Italian or whatever your roots.

    Feb 05th, 2023 - 10:09 am - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Tænk

    FitzRoy liar, liar, pants on fire... :-)

    Ya' Kelpers haven't even bothered to include the name of them windblownIsles on your British Passport cover... !
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Nationality_(Falkland_Islands)_Act_1983#:~:text=The%20new%20Act%20conferred%20full,must%20be%20voluntarily%20applied%20for).

    Feb 05th, 2023 - 11:47 am - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Islander1

    Think,
    Its there in the Charter of the UN- not sure of exact wording but basically the people of a country/group, of Islands like we are, outside anyone else,s territorial limits - have the right to choose our own political future.
    Your side torpedoed for ever any point of any “sovereignty negotiations” in future when they wrote into your Constitution that we are an ileneable part of Argentine territory - that means |Argentina can not discuss Anything ever in any talks - other than the day of a total handover- that is Not Democracy is it?

    Feb 05th, 2023 - 10:55 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Tænk

    Timlander1

    - There are indeed in the Charter of the UN - some words 'bout people of a territory/group of Islands like where you are..., having the right to choose their own political future....

    - Those words are RIGHT BESIDE some other EQUIVALENT words in the Charter of the UN 'bout the respect of the Territorial Integrity of any state...

    - As we well know..., somebody didn't respect the Integrity of somebody in 1833...

    ANYHOW...
    - Fact is that Argentina has since 1948..., ALWAYS voted at the UN in favour of the Territorial Integrity of any existing State...

    - The UK..., on the other hand..., votes for the principle they fancy most at any chosen moment...:

    - In the recent (1999) Ex-Yugoslavia conflict they chose the “People's Self-Determination Principle” so they freely could bomb Serbia for 90 long days...

    - In the even more recent (2014) Ukraine conflict they chose “Territorial Integrity Principle” so they freely can help bomb Lugansk, Donetsk & Crimea...

    In short...:
    - The Argie Constitution ain't bombing nor killing nobody...

    - The UK Bruts are bombing and killing scores..., every day...

    That is Not Democracy..., is it

    Feb 05th, 2023 - 11:47 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • FitzRoy

    “...somebody didn't respect the Integrity of somebody in 1833...” Can you please tell us just why they were asked to leave? And while you're about it, let us know who left and who stayed? And tell us about the murders and mutiny...

    Feb 06th, 2023 - 08:34 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Tænk

    Btw..., Mr. Timlander1...
    You being an “Auld School” Kelper whose pants usually ain't on fire..., encourages me to ask you...:

    - How's going with that brilliant Northern Hemisphere Engrish plan of training Northern Hemisphere Kosovar soldiers to kill Northern Hemisphere Serbian soldiers in our Southern Hemisphere windblown bonnie Malvinas/Falklands Isles...?

    - Them Engrish better hurry up with that scheme..., before the Anglosphere's public euphoria with the Heroic Ukrainian Quest somehow..., inexplicably..., begins to fade away...

    Capisce...?

    Feb 06th, 2023 - 11:13 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • darragh

    Poor old tinkeypoo is having to work extra at his trolling as he doesn't want to be called up to be cannon fodder in the Ukraine.

    How's the weather in St Petersburg comrade?

    Feb 06th, 2023 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • FitzRoy

    Wænk, apparently their training has been going very well. It's nice that you are so interested. You obviously know very little of military training though. From experience, I can tell you that the vast majority of military training is more about leadership than killing. Once you can fire a weapon and know how to look after yourself, leadership and education is much more relevant. Something sadly lacking in your forces in '82.
    As for the people of Donetsk, Lugansk and the rest of the Ukraine, most of them, once liberated were only too happy that their Russian oppressors had left. Much like the “Argentine” oppressors in 1833. I note you had nothing to say about why your “ancestors” left when asked, or, indeed had much to say about the 29 people who decided to stay and help the British establish a settlement.

    Feb 07th, 2023 - 08:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tænk

    Geeeeeeeeeeee...., Mr. Timlander1...

    Has Stanley Gr's..., by any chance hired Mr. “FitzRoy liar, liar, pants on fire” as their official porky teller...?

    [ According to...: http://kosovapress.com/ ..., none of the up to seven (7) officers of the KSF (Kosovo Security Force) assigned to join the UK Armed Farces infantry company in the Malvinas/Falkland Islands has yet left Kosovo...]

    Chuckle..., chuckle..., FitzRoy liar, liar, pants on fire...

    Feb 07th, 2023 - 10:27 am - Link - Report abuse -2
  • FitzRoy

    Wænk, you're kosovapress source is woefully out of date. They have walked around the horseshoe basin below Mt. Kent, climbed Mt. Harriet and also Mt. Usborne and are, by all acoounts, really nice people. It just goes to show how full of shit you actually are, old son. They are interested in the flora and fauna of the Falklands and especially the geology.

    Feb 08th, 2023 - 08:57 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tænk

    Geeeeeeeeeeee...., Mr. Timlander1...

    You better learn your youngsters to put a sock in it... ;-)
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8b/INF3-276_Anti-rumour_and_careless_talk_Put_a_sock_in_it%21.jpg

    NB...
    - We knew you Kelpers have some Pristina guests since mid-january..., but the “climbing” of the cerro Alberdi wasn't reported...!...;-))))))

    Capisce...?

    Feb 08th, 2023 - 09:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinense 1833

    FitzRoy

    I don't want to interrupt the thread of conversation with Mr. Think, but...
    It is very simple that they broke the territorial integrity of a country by colonialism, they invaded as they did around the world.
    A large part of the population of Port Soledad left the settlement.
    Because? By force of cannons from two warships.
    Regarding the murders and riots, it is a matter of the justice of the country in which the events occurred, that is, Argentina.
    It does not favor the british position at all.
    Capisce...?

    Feb 08th, 2023 - 11:49 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • FitzRoy

    @Malvinense; “...they broke the territorial integrity of a country by colonialism, they invaded as they did around the world...” Is this the Spanish? You know, the ones who invaded and looted South America?
    The “large part of the 'population'” to which you refer would be the military garrison, because the majority of the civilian 'population' elected to stay, twenty-nine of them, all told. No guns were fired, the garrison were asked to leave, they left. This following two letters of protest from the British Government.
    As usual, Malvy, you neglect to mention the fact that the Falklands were British, since 1765, something you always forget, and please, spare me the “we inherited them from Spain” thing. Everyone knows you didn't.
    Don't forget, “Argentina”, in 1833 was just a cluster of badly run states around the mouth of the River Plate in 1833. Spain did not recognise your independence until 1858, although Britain did. It took Argentina quite a while to spread/invade/usurp all of the land she has now. Even by 1840 you had only spread as far as south as the Rio Negra.
    All that land and still you have no economy, and yet you still want to colonise still further. Why?

    Feb 09th, 2023 - 09:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Malvinense 1833

    @ Fitz
    You can call it a town, a military garrison or whatever you want. The fact is that it is under the sovereignty of a country, recognized by Great Britain in 1823 and 1825.
    1765?
    They did not discover the islands.
    They did not populate the islands.
    They say they are British because of a piece of lead plate thrown on the ground and a crop from a potato garden.
    The islands were incorporated into the kingdom of Spain, then into the Viceroyalty of the Río de la Plata, they had a Spanish population, Spanish governors without British protests.
    You say that Argentina was a group of badly administered states, and that it took a long time for it to spread.
    Curiously, this magnifies the great task that Vernet carried out and do you know anything else? Despite all the difficulties and the time it took to spread out on the mainland, the islands were already occupied by this set of mismanaged states.
    Capisce...?

    Feb 09th, 2023 - 02:29 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Monkeymagic

    Malvinense

    Vernet had gone. His business had failed. He was not even Argentine nor a representative of the Argentine state. He left the British Matthew Brisbane in charge after he left.

    It wasnt a military garrision that was removed, it overstates it. It was a bunch of mutineerers who'd been on the islands for 10 weeks, committed murder and rape and were going to be removed by Argentina anyway.

    Nothing to do with Spain.

    All the other islands in the Atlantic may have been British, Spanish or Dutch...now they belong to the people who live there.

    Feb 10th, 2023 - 08:43 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • FitzRoy

    Malvinense. Spain gave nothing to BA. Spain didn't even recognise Argentine independence until 1858! John Davis discovered the Falklands in 1592. He was the first to chart them. Please don't go on and tell us all about Magellan or any of his colleagues, because we all know it isn't true.
    Vernet? He applied to the British for permission to set up a cattle-culling business in the Falklands. Why on earth would he petition the British?

    Feb 10th, 2023 - 09:02 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Malvinense 1833

    The problem Fitz is that you follow the fairy tale of Pepper and Pascoe.
    The problem Fitz is that you follow the fairy tale of Pepper and Pascoe.
    Changing the topic, Miss Teslyn Barkman is very beautiful.

    Feb 10th, 2023 - 12:06 pm - Link - Report abuse -1

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