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Falklands: PICTO 21 group told to expect no help from FIG or MLAs

Friday, February 17th 2023 - 07:00 UTC
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The so-called PICTO 21 group of Argentine visitors to the Falkland Islands looking for an accounting approach with which to measure ”the economic impact of the illegal occupation ... by the British government” will have no assistance from the local Legislative Assembly, it was announced. Read full article


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  • Steve Potts

    In the end they are just a bunch of sovereignty fantasists and self-determination deniers from the Republic of Narnia. 0 value.

    Feb 17th, 2023 - 10:15 am - Link - Report abuse +6
  • RedBaron

    Imagine what would happen if a bunch of British 'accountants' would try to travel to Argentina to research the economic and other effects of the usurpation of the aboriginal lands in Argentina (or some such nonsense).
    Jeremy Clarkson was effectively harried and kicked out of the country for simply organising a motoring tour, so British accountants would probably get 15 years in prison!!!

    Feb 17th, 2023 - 11:12 am - Link - Report abuse +7
  • Islander1

    Big part of the info they can see- but of course will not write about is the current trade figures that show Falklands imported £125 million of goods and products from UK in 2922 all paid for by us - and the UK imported just £25 million from the Falklands

    That means that even to a dumb Arg journalist - we pay into the UK economy- 5 times more than UK pays into our economy in terms of straight import/export. trade.

    Feb 17th, 2023 - 11:25 am - Link - Report abuse +6
  • Tænk

    Mr. RedBaron...

    - Having been involved for decades in absolutely NON NONSENSICAL domestic & foreign activities related to the various plights caused by the usurpation of Indigenous lands in Argentina.., i can vouch for you being wrong...

    - Anyhow... interesting your choice of JEREMY CLARKSON as an example...
    - Ain't him the Engrish Gentleman that dreams of the day a young Mulatto woman will be paraded naked through the streets of London as people hurl excrement at her...?
    - Same excrement he hurled to us Patagonians who guested him by driving through our roads in that H982 FKL Porsche..., by the way...

    Btw..., ain't it truth that one can & may get arrested in the Malvinas Isles just for wearing Messi's Nr. 10 World Cup jersey...?

    Feb 17th, 2023 - 11:58 am - Link - Report abuse -7
  • BrianFI

    Tænk, no that is not true

    Feb 17th, 2023 - 12:48 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Tænk


    BrianFi above says...:
    “Tænk, no that is not true”

    FIG(leaf) says...:
    - “Please be aware that the public waving or displaying of Argentine flags or the wearing of Argentine military uniforms anywhere in the Falkland Islands has the potential to cause public concern and distress. Please refrain from doing this to prevent unnecessary upset and inconvenience.”

    I say...:
    - I personally know the case of an Argie/German sailor couple that were forced by the Harbour Master to remove the Argentine flag from their sailboat in a very aggresive mode...
    - I have also been referred of a Royal Islander1 policeman reprimanding an Argie tourist about the “provocative” nature of wearing an Argentine National Polo Team jersey...
    - Not to speak about the 2019 episode of the several days long house arrest of some Argie visitors to the war cemetery..., who insolently brought their flags along...


    Feb 17th, 2023 - 01:57 pm - Link - Report abuse -6
  • Brasileiro

    Whatever it is, I hope that Argentine sovereignty over the islands prevails definitively!

    Feb 17th, 2023 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Dirk Dikkler

    A Spying operation plain and simple! really I cannot see any Country putting up with that Blatant approach.

    Feb 17th, 2023 - 02:43 pm - Link - Report abuse +6
  • Malvinense 1833

    @ Mr. Gavin Short
    What is your country? Narnia?
    I assume you mean the North Atlantic islands where you belong....


    Feb 17th, 2023 - 02:47 pm - Link - Report abuse -6
  • Brasileiro

    @Dirk Dikkler

    Maybe some balloons? It's not normal to send out spies in the flesh these days.

    A proof of love and friendship.

    Feb 17th, 2023 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • BrianFI

    Tænk, football shirts are fine. The Argentine flag is not. Big difference. We are not allowed to fly the Falkland flag in Argentina either. Maybe you should THINK before you make yourself a hypocrite Argie

    Feb 17th, 2023 - 03:06 pm - Link - Report abuse +6
  • Juan Cervantes

    Malvinese, then so do you need to go back to Spain.Italy and Germany and give the land back to the natives, think before you spew silly nonsense,

    Feb 17th, 2023 - 03:22 pm - Link - Report abuse +6
  • Dirk Dikkler

    And Yet they are sending Spies admittedly Not undercover but very much in the flesh.

    Feb 17th, 2023 - 03:34 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Steve Potts

    Desire the right...

    Falkland Islanders Specific Right to Self-Determination (1 pg) :

    Feb 17th, 2023 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Brasileiro

    @Dirk Dikkler

    I had forgotten that your flag belongs to an island far away. You are lost here. A band of Scottish pirates who crossed the oceans and found the Falklands.

    Balloons is for something bigger.

    Feb 17th, 2023 - 03:46 pm - Link - Report abuse -6
  • Tænk

    Mr. BrianFI...
    You are wrong...

    - Royal Malvinas constables hare empowered by local police regulatives to evaluate on site what has or has not the “potential to cause public concern and distress” and react accordingly...
    - As they already have done with an Argie National Polo Team jersey on an Argie tourist...
    - But of course..., now one can confront any Island copper and tell him that our “Celeste y Blanca” shirt is OK..., 'cause BrianFI said in PenguinPress that it was so... :-)))))))))))))

    About flags...
    Ours is not allowed by you anywhere in them windblown Isles...
    Yours is not allowed on any ship at any Mercosur harbour...
    Kind of an ok “quid pro quo”..., I Tænk...


    N Ar
    Tænk, football shirts are fine. The Argentine flag is not. Big difference. We are not allowed to fly the Falkland flag in Argentina either. Maybe you should THINK before you make yourself a hypocrite Argie

    Feb 17th, 2023 - 04:32 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • FIdescendent

    Does anyone else see the abject irony in this? An Argentwhine accountant looking at the Falkland Economy? Maybe if they focused on their own monetary and fiscal policy rather than these continued forays into fantasy. They’d realise how to fix their own economy.

    Feb 18th, 2023 - 04:47 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Roger Lorton

    PICTO 21?

    Presumably arriving on tourist visas?

    And yet not obviously tourists.

    Perhaps just easier to refuse them entry?

    Why make agent provocateurs welcome?

    Feb 18th, 2023 - 04:48 am - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Tænk

    Mr. Roger Lorton...
    “Ex-pert” in Malvinas Isles...
    Just for your kind info..., ex-copper...
    No Argie needs no visa to enter the them Isles...


    Feb 18th, 2023 - 09:26 am - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Roger Lorton

    Trunks, what does the stamp that goes in arrivee's passports say?
    Visitor's permit. No?
    A visa by any other name.
    No permit, no stay.

    Get it?

    Feb 18th, 2023 - 11:35 pm - Link - Report abuse +4
  • Tænk

    You are getting a bit rusty of all that palm-toddy..., copper...
    Now you are confusing “Visas” with “Entry Stamps”...!

    - As you can read in the below linked page..., YOU & HUMBLE ME may indeed enter the Malvinas/Falklands Isles WITHOUT A VISA..., and will both get a nice souvenir in the form of an ENTRY STAMP in our respective Passports...

    - Your whole THAI FAMILY though..., will need to previously apply for their ENTRY VISAS in Thailand..., before they can earn the privilege of getting their ENTRY STAMP souvenir in their passports...


    Feb 19th, 2023 - 01:07 am - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Roger Lorton

    Remind me, what are the words?

    “Entry Permitted.....”?

    Rather suggests that entry does not have to be 'permitted'.

    Get it?

    Feb 19th, 2023 - 09:00 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Tænk

    Always at your service..., Roger...

    The wording at me passport's Malvinas “Entry Stamps” contain indeed the wording “Entry Permitted”...

    As do most of me passport's other “Entry Stamps” of several of the 193 UN Member States...(Malvinas NOT one of them..., btw)...

    Still..., an “Entry Stamp” ain't no “Visa”...
    Even a corrupt Chittagong Hills Tract copper knows that..., lad...

    Of course..., the duty constable at Malvinas immigration could have played THE MACHO CARD and decide not to permit the entry of those dangerous Argie spy baloons...


    1) The Brutish Foreign & Colonial Office had ordered its Brutish police chief on them windblown Isles NOT TO PLAY MACHO...

    2) LATAM office in Santiago had warned the FIG(leaf) AGAINST PLAYING MACHO...

    3) Our Anglo solicitor in them Isles was Stand-B..., surely praying to his Anglican diviniry that somebody would PLAY THE MACHO CARD..., so he coud afford to trade his auld Landy with a new one...;-)

    Hence them Argie Spy Baloons are currently enjoying their stay in Puerto Estanley...

    - You know the political drill, me dear copper...
    Policing is too serious a business to leave it to them policeman...


    Feb 19th, 2023 - 12:02 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Juan Cervantes

    Yet more silly Gibbering nonsense from Senor Taenk, my parrot talks more sense than you.

    Feb 19th, 2023 - 12:25 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Swede

    Citizens of many countries need a visa before entering the F.I., among them most African and Asian countries, but also some South American countries such as Bolivia, Paraguay, Suriname and even Guyana (a member of the Commonwealth) &c. But why really is Argentina on the list of visa-free entries?? As far as I know most trouble-makers coming to the islands are Argentines.

    Feb 19th, 2023 - 11:32 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Tænk


    That Swede above can read FACTS and deduce a LOGICAL question after all...!

    - Maybe next he will be asking himself why them Ruskies blowed their own multi-billion dollars gasoduct...?
    - Or why are the Chinks provoking us to war by invading us with their murderous,rapist weather balloons...?
    - Or why we invaded Iraq when that incapable Sandnigga of Saddam didn't have not one single weapon of mass destruction...?

    Soooooooo many questions awaiting that Swede...


    Feb 20th, 2023 - 08:56 am - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Juan Cervantes

    Disgusting racist post Senor Taenk, as well as more gibbering childish nonsense,

    Feb 20th, 2023 - 10:10 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Monkeymagic

    I can do it for them....

    Economic impact to Argentina of having the Falklands or not having the They would still be one of the most corrupt, indebted failed states in the world. With the Falklands they would just have diseased another region with their Peronist filth.

    Economic impact to the UK of having or not having the Falklands, negligible.

    Economic impact to the islanders from being governed by Argentina...catastrophic. A robust thriving capitalist economy with high GDP infected by Peronist socialism and envy....equals bankrupcy.

    Thats why they prefer to remain British.

    Feb 20th, 2023 - 07:49 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Tænk


    -Is it just me...,or are them Engrish Bobbies a bit on the owerassertive side of things...?

    - It took three comments before our resident Brummie ex-copper..., Mr. Roger Lorton..., finally accepted that a “VISA” ain't the same as an “ENTRY STAMP”... ;-)))

    Maybe he could pick an Oxford Engrish Dictionary next time he goes past a second hand bookshop...?


    Feb 20th, 2023 - 08:16 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Roger Lorton

    Accepted, Trunks?
    I actually suggested that there was little difference.
    Permission can, after all, be refused.
    Entry carries requirements and restrictions. If those are not met, entry can be denied.
    I assume the powers that be in the Falklands have an alternative s6tamp - “Entry Not Permitted”.

    Feb 20th, 2023 - 10:25 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Tænk

    Still..., copper...

    A “VISA” ain't the same as an “ENTRY STAMP”.

    Not in Malvinas..., not in Engeleand..., not even in the West Midlands...


    Feb 20th, 2023 - 10:41 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Roger Lorton

    An Entry Permitted stamp. Otherwise, it would just say ”Entry ...... (date)....”

    However, perhaps it is now the time then to upgrade the Entry Permit to a full visa requirement. Argentina has, after all, broken most of the agreements signed since 1989. Entry for the purposes of tourism/commemoration being an easy visa to obtain. Anything else, harder.

    Get it? Got it? Good

    Feb 20th, 2023 - 11:50 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Tænk


    This Engrish Bobby is indeed a bit on the overassertive side of things...!

    - It took five (5) comments before our resident Brummie ex-copper..., Mr. Roger Lorton..., finally accepted that a “VISA” ain't the same as an “ENTRY STAMP”... ;-)))))

    Pity for you Rodge that it ain't you (nor them generous Anglo Kelpers...) who can decide about any kind of change from the current “Entry Stamp” requirement for us nice Argies to a “Visa” requirement for us sweet Argies...

    That's EXCLUSIVELY the prerrogative of our beloved Brutish Foreign & Colonial Office...


    Feb 21st, 2023 - 01:08 am - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Roger Lorton

    Think of it as an “Entry Visa” trunks ;-)

    Feb 22nd, 2023 - 08:58 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Tænk

    I see it as what it is...: An “Entry Stamp”..., copper... ;-)

    Feb 22nd, 2023 - 02:19 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Malvinense 1833

    Mr. RedHoyt does not accept arguments, he will never agree with you.

    @Juan Cervantes
    No mr. It is not the same situation. Our country, which includes the islands, achieved self-determination a long time ago. Recognized by the islands of the North Atlantic, there belongs Mr. Gavin Short

    Feb 23rd, 2023 - 12:32 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Juan Cervantes

    No 1833, it does not include the Falklands not now nit before and not in the future, but feel free to waste your life on a pipe dream. and you belong to Spain and Italy you hypocrite.

    Feb 23rd, 2023 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Malvinense 1833

    @ Juan Cervantes
    You are quite foul spoken. Is that the education they teach in Britain?
    We achieved self-determination a long time ago please let Mr. Gavin Short know.

    Feb 24th, 2023 - 11:07 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Juan Cervantes

    Malvi, you are talking nonsense, what is foul about being called a hypocrite, because that is exactly what you are, your ancestors based in Buenos Aires went south and STOLE thousands of square km from the true owners of the land, what is foul is the above disgusting racist post by Senor Taenk. Sand N and CH....s, but you overlook .

    Feb 24th, 2023 - 12:40 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Malvinense 1833

    @ Juan Cervantes

    You are seeing the speck in the other's eye and not the beam in your own.
    You are mixing things up. The British were left with part of the territory of a country.
    I agree with some points that the British mention here.
    Argentina is ruled by corrupt politicians.
    Without those politicians Argentina in 30 years could be among the 10 world powers.
    The difference between you and me is that I can accept when your compatriots or you are right. Something you won't do.
    I repeat something I said to Judge Jose. The British in the Falklands/Malvinas Islands are not our enemies.
    Please honor Cervantes and take care of your language.

    Feb 24th, 2023 - 02:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Juan Cervantes

    1833, again i say what is foul ? nothing i have said is foul, the poster Taenk has posted quite a few racist posts, he is the one you should be talking too about foul words, I agree Argentina could be a wealthy and great country, but while you continue to elect extreme nationalists you will continue to be bankrupt, nothing wrong with patriotism but nationalism is extreme, What i dont accept are lies, there was never an Argentine town, there was no eviction of anyone but the military that was sent to take the islands by force and certainly no usurption, and 2 times in the 60s and 80s Britain offered Argentina the chance to go to the ICJ, why did they say no, if their case was that strong,? even your user name is antagonistic towards the islanders,

    Feb 24th, 2023 - 02:40 pm - Link - Report abuse +1

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