On 21 May 1982, British troops from the Task Force landed in San Carlos waters to begin the last chapter of the complete recovery and Liberation of the Falkland Islands. Read full article
My respects to the British soldiers who lost their lives in action...
Unfortunately it caused the reoccupation of ~half of Argentine's Insular Patagonia..., invaded by the Engrish in 1833 and contended by Argentina since then...
- Now..., do read them minutes carefully and please tell me...:
- WHERE DOES IT SAY that that ignorant turnip & traitor of an Argie admiral offered TO BUY THEM MALVINAS...?
- That stuck-up, ignorant Argie Armed Farces officer even mistook the very real sale of them DK VIRGIN ISLANDS to the US with an totally imaginary sale of the UK VIRGIN ISLANDS to the US...!
That's what usually happens wen you send an uniformed Turnip to do a real person's job...
The implication appears pretty clear, Trunks. That said, I am rather more fascinated by the recognition of Islanders rights in 1953, and even the mention of a plebiscite.
Marvin 33, one of the documents provided by me says - British sovereignty over the Falkland Islands dates back to 1765, some years before the Republic of Argentina even existed.
Rog, you are wasting your time, Malv and Taenk are probably the same person, and no matter what evidence you provide he will try to twist it or just downright lie with childish waffle added to it, if they/he believes the case is that strong then they know what he needs to do, go to the ICJ, but he will not, why ? because their case will be destroyed, the top and bottom of it is the Falklands are here to stay, no drivel from Malvinas clowns will change that,
You say...:
- The implication appears pretty clear
I say...:
Your answer then..., being that...:
- Notwithstanding the presented written evidence that..., - NOWHERE - in them Engrish language redaced minutes..., written during the Engrish Coronation days of 1953..., by an Engrish civil servant at the service of the young Engrish Queen..., that the ignorant turnip & traitor Argie admiral OFFERED TO BUY THEM MALVINAS..., the implication appears pretty clear..., TO YOU..., an Engrish ex-copper from the Black Country..., loyal subdit of the late Engrish Queen..., right...?
- Well copper..., that's exactly the crux & kernel on which your fawlty Malvinastimeline has been written..., rendering it unsuitable for serious use...
I repeat again: your Malvinastimeline denies James Kariuki.
This man
it does not mention the Spanish population that inhabited the islands.
He mentions the military garrison that is the presence of the Argentine state in place.
He mentions that three months before the garrison was sent.
Three months anyway is a lot longer than British nothingness itself.
It mentions a town that had applied for British permission and does not show any document of that permission.
It is also a contradiction that if the permit existed, Captain Onslow arrived at the place with an ultimatum for the population and with two warships.
That is the problem of the British lie, they repeatedly enter into contradictions and this leaves them in evidence.
Trunks, some recognition that the UK had rights methinks as the Argentine representative was asking that we drop them.
Marvin 33, Argentina was trespassing in 1833. Given two written warnings (1829 & 1832) before being legally ejected. Britain never again left after 1771. We were there to witness the Jewett farce, and rescue the gauchos in 1824. We were there in 1826 and 1828. Spain recognised the British flag in Stanley in 1863.
You say...:
- Some recognition that the UK had rights methinks as the Argentine representative was asking that we drop them...
I say...:
- As clearly stated in them minutes, lad..., the Argentinean representative did indeed ask you Engrish..., in the midst of the XXth Century..., to drop some rights...
- The right of the gunboat..., the right of the Webley/Martini-Henry..., the right of the jungle between others...
- As clearly stated in them minutes, lad..., you Engrish refused...
......Annually a vessel is destined to recognize it, verifying the same for the other (ports) that exist in said islands so that no other power IS ESTABLISHED OR POSSESSION OF THEM....
Document provided by you.
You make my tonsils laugh... a courtesy cannon shot does not mean the recognition of the Spanish state of british sovereignty...
chuckle chuckle.......
Marv - if you have read it properly, you'll know those annual visits ceased in 1771. Spain's instructions were for only covert observations. Hiding in bushes.
The documents are very clear, the rest is your pure speculation.
A captain does not have the power to recognize the sovereignty of another state.
Hey, you're not intellectually honest.
Reality is that after confirming its claims to the USA in 1833, Spain dropped its claim to the single Island of Soledad that it had made made in 1811. Confirmed by the Admiral's salute in 1863 and the exchange of diplomatic gifts. If Spain had maintained a claim, then the Admiral could do neither of these things. Go read more. I recommend Volume 3 of Graham Pascoe's Falkland Saga which deals with the Pinzon expedition in some depth and the implications of Pinzon's visit to the Islands.
Trunks, the implication is so clear that both Argentine and British news outlets refer to the 1953 meeting as an offer to purchase. Only the old and the daft can see it any other way.
- Your choice of basing your Whole Argument and draw Clear Implications on some added words in some press articles..., against the Unequivocal Text of an Excellent Primary Source as the Offical Minutes of tha meeting are...............
............... does tempt me to draw the Clear Implication that your haughty & biased Anglo wiew of Documented History may be a consecuence of a Centuries Auld Indoctrinated Profound Conviction that your Brutish are God’s Gift To Our World..., and the rest of us..., are just Animals.
- This Centuries Auld Indoctrinated Profound Conviction of yours is..., as I previously wrote...: Exactly the Crux & Kernel on which your whole fawlty “Malvinastimeline” has been written..., rendering it unsuitable for serious use...
To quote Maggie - “I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left.”
Without the ICJ, Trunks, Argentina has no move left.
Geeeeeeeeeeeeeee..., copper...
Are we citing politicians and asking for political arguments now...?
What happened to your good, auld & healthy disdain for all things political... ?
Is it Camilla P.B's. and Rishi S's. New Leadership that has inspired such an unhealthy change...?
Anyhow..., with the Engrish Imperial Decline Rate being about 500% faster of that of the Romans..., we Argies don't even need to make a move...
A couple of more decades and the archaic imperial remains of our Anglo antagonists in the South-Atlantic will gently return to their right place...
A couple more decades Taenk says, utter and complete delusion, more gibbering nonsense, when you and i have long gone from this world the Falklands will still exist, by the way England has never had an empire, Britain did and gave it up voluntary unlike your ancestors, so no, Argentina will not get something that they have never owned not in 10 years not in 20 years not in 50 years unless the islanders choose so, even your Peronist nut job politicians know that,
€12 million for Aircraft that never flew??? Macron did a number on you there, eh.
Better luck with the Norwegian P-3 Orions, which will be a lot more use considering the rate at which your Chinese friends are plunder your natural resources, inside your 200nml limit.
If you can afford them.
Meanwhile the S. Atlantic/Antarctic will remain in its rightful place, as British Territory.
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Disclaimer & comment rulesMy respects to the British soldiers who lost their lives in action.
May 22nd, 2023 - 02:40 pm - Link - Report abuse -5Unfortunately it caused the reoccupation of Argentine Patagonia.
A war that should never have happened,
May 22nd, 2023 - 05:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Thanks Chile for your help!
May 22nd, 2023 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We will not forget the bravery of the armed forces,
May 22nd, 2023 - 11:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My respects to the fallen. And Thank you. But Malvi, no one has reoccupied Patagonia.
May 23rd, 2023 - 08:28 am - Link - Report abuse +6Expanding on what Malvinense 1833 wrote above...:
May 23rd, 2023 - 11:05 am - Link - Report abuse -4My respects to the British soldiers who lost their lives in action...
Unfortunately it caused the reoccupation of ~half of Argentine's Insular Patagonia..., invaded by the Engrish in 1833 and contended by Argentina since then...
1833?
May 23rd, 2023 - 12:38 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Which bit of 'British since 1765' are you failing to grasp Trunks?
While I am here, something that may interest you
https://www.academia.edu/102064971/Perons_offer_to_buy_the_Falkland_Islands_1953_UK_National_Archives
Finally you found it..., Copper...!
May 23rd, 2023 - 03:27 pm - Link - Report abuse -4- Now..., do read them minutes carefully and please tell me...:
- WHERE DOES IT SAY that that ignorant turnip & traitor of an Argie admiral offered TO BUY THEM MALVINAS...?
- That stuck-up, ignorant Argie Armed Farces officer even mistook the very real sale of them DK VIRGIN ISLANDS to the US with an totally imaginary sale of the UK VIRGIN ISLANDS to the US...!
That's what usually happens wen you send an uniformed Turnip to do a real person's job...
Capisce...?
Since 1765? The documents provided by you deny it.
May 23rd, 2023 - 10:05 pm - Link - Report abuse -2https://falklandstimeline.files.wordpress.com/2018/09/88740.pdf
The implication appears pretty clear, Trunks. That said, I am rather more fascinated by the recognition of Islanders rights in 1953, and even the mention of a plebiscite.
May 23rd, 2023 - 11:33 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Marvin 33, one of the documents provided by me says - British sovereignty over the Falkland Islands dates back to 1765, some years before the Republic of Argentina even existed.
https://falklandstimeline.files.wordpress.com/2022/02/letter-dated-18-january-2022-from-the-united-kingdom-to-the-united-nations.-refutes-allegations-in-agentine-letter-dated-31-dec.-2020-concerning-the-falkland-islands.-a76656-en.pdf
Rog, you are wasting your time, Malv and Taenk are probably the same person, and no matter what evidence you provide he will try to twist it or just downright lie with childish waffle added to it, if they/he believes the case is that strong then they know what he needs to do, go to the ICJ, but he will not, why ? because their case will be destroyed, the top and bottom of it is the Falklands are here to stay, no drivel from Malvinas clowns will change that,
May 24th, 2023 - 12:07 am - Link - Report abuse +1Juan, surely not? Trunks is rather brighter than Marvin, despite his long indoctrination.
May 24th, 2023 - 01:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0Copper...
May 24th, 2023 - 06:44 am - Link - Report abuse -2You say...:
- The implication appears pretty clear
I say...:
Your answer then..., being that...:
- Notwithstanding the presented written evidence that..., - NOWHERE - in them Engrish language redaced minutes..., written during the Engrish Coronation days of 1953..., by an Engrish civil servant at the service of the young Engrish Queen..., that the ignorant turnip & traitor Argie admiral OFFERED TO BUY THEM MALVINAS..., the implication appears pretty clear..., TO YOU..., an Engrish ex-copper from the Black Country..., loyal subdit of the late Engrish Queen..., right...?
- Well copper..., that's exactly the crux & kernel on which your fawlty Malvinastimeline has been written..., rendering it unsuitable for serious use...
Capisce...?
I repeat again: your Malvinastimeline denies James Kariuki.
May 24th, 2023 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse -2This man
it does not mention the Spanish population that inhabited the islands.
He mentions the military garrison that is the presence of the Argentine state in place.
He mentions that three months before the garrison was sent.
Three months anyway is a lot longer than British nothingness itself.
It mentions a town that had applied for British permission and does not show any document of that permission.
It is also a contradiction that if the permit existed, Captain Onslow arrived at the place with an ultimatum for the population and with two warships.
That is the problem of the British lie, they repeatedly enter into contradictions and this leaves them in evidence.
Trunks, some recognition that the UK had rights methinks as the Argentine representative was asking that we drop them.
May 24th, 2023 - 12:26 pm - Link - Report abuse +4Marvin 33, Argentina was trespassing in 1833. Given two written warnings (1829 & 1832) before being legally ejected. Britain never again left after 1771. We were there to witness the Jewett farce, and rescue the gauchos in 1824. We were there in 1826 and 1828. Spain recognised the British flag in Stanley in 1863.
Argentina, was never in the game.
Copper...
May 24th, 2023 - 02:53 pm - Link - Report abuse -2You say...:
- Some recognition that the UK had rights methinks as the Argentine representative was asking that we drop them...
I say...:
- As clearly stated in them minutes, lad..., the Argentinean representative did indeed ask you Engrish..., in the midst of the XXth Century..., to drop some rights...
- The right of the gunboat..., the right of the Webley/Martini-Henry..., the right of the jungle between others...
- As clearly stated in them minutes, lad..., you Engrish refused...
Capisce...?
......Annually a vessel is destined to recognize it, verifying the same for the other (ports) that exist in said islands so that no other power IS ESTABLISHED OR POSSESSION OF THEM....
May 24th, 2023 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse -2Document provided by you.
You make my tonsils laugh... a courtesy cannon shot does not mean the recognition of the Spanish state of british sovereignty...
chuckle chuckle.......
Didn't see all those words Trunks.
May 24th, 2023 - 09:37 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Marv - if you have read it properly, you'll know those annual visits ceased in 1771. Spain's instructions were for only covert observations. Hiding in bushes.
A salute to the flag, most certainly does.
Copper...
May 24th, 2023 - 10:41 pm - Link - Report abuse -2You say...:
- Didn't see all those words Tænk.
I say...:
Nothing to see... lad...
The implication appears pretty clear...
Capisce...?
The documents are very clear, the rest is your pure speculation.
May 24th, 2023 - 10:54 pm - Link - Report abuse -2A captain does not have the power to recognize the sovereignty of another state.
Hey, you're not intellectually honest.
An Admiral on a diplomatic mission may, Marv.
May 24th, 2023 - 11:54 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Reality is that after confirming its claims to the USA in 1833, Spain dropped its claim to the single Island of Soledad that it had made made in 1811. Confirmed by the Admiral's salute in 1863 and the exchange of diplomatic gifts. If Spain had maintained a claim, then the Admiral could do neither of these things. Go read more. I recommend Volume 3 of Graham Pascoe's Falkland Saga which deals with the Pinzon expedition in some depth and the implications of Pinzon's visit to the Islands.
Trunks, the implication is so clear that both Argentine and British news outlets refer to the 1953 meeting as an offer to purchase. Only the old and the daft can see it any other way.
Well..., Copper...
May 25th, 2023 - 06:22 am - Link - Report abuse -2- Your choice of basing your Whole Argument and draw Clear Implications on some added words in some press articles..., against the Unequivocal Text of an Excellent Primary Source as the Offical Minutes of tha meeting are...............
............... does tempt me to draw the Clear Implication that your haughty & biased Anglo wiew of Documented History may be a consecuence of a Centuries Auld Indoctrinated Profound Conviction that your Brutish are God’s Gift To Our World..., and the rest of us..., are just Animals.
- This Centuries Auld Indoctrinated Profound Conviction of yours is..., as I previously wrote...: Exactly the Crux & Kernel on which your whole fawlty “Malvinastimeline” has been written..., rendering it unsuitable for serious use...
Capisce...?
Trunks, ....... take it to the ICJ
May 25th, 2023 - 08:09 am - Link - Report abuse +2Copper...
May 25th, 2023 - 08:40 am - Link - Report abuse -2It ain't not in me humble Patagonian hands to take nothing to no ICJ......
On the other hand..., adding some Academic Values to that fawlty Malvinastimeline is very much in yours...
Capisce...?
To quote Maggie - “I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left.”
May 25th, 2023 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Without the ICJ, Trunks, Argentina has no move left.
Geeeeeeeeeeeeeee..., copper...
May 25th, 2023 - 05:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Are we citing politicians and asking for political arguments now...?
What happened to your good, auld & healthy disdain for all things political... ?
Is it Camilla P.B's. and Rishi S's. New Leadership that has inspired such an unhealthy change...?
Anyhow..., with the Engrish Imperial Decline Rate being about 500% faster of that of the Romans..., we Argies don't even need to make a move...
A couple of more decades and the archaic imperial remains of our Anglo antagonists in the South-Atlantic will gently return to their right place...
Capisce...?
A couple more decades Taenk says, utter and complete delusion, more gibbering nonsense, when you and i have long gone from this world the Falklands will still exist, by the way England has never had an empire, Britain did and gave it up voluntary unlike your ancestors, so no, Argentina will not get something that they have never owned not in 10 years not in 20 years not in 50 years unless the islanders choose so, even your Peronist nut job politicians know that,
May 25th, 2023 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Roger Lorton
May 26th, 2023 - 11:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting what Lord Reading has to say about the ‘Falkland Island Dependencies’, I wonder if that is still true today.
Somehow I doubt it.
Puelmapu Planter
‘Webley/Martini-Henry’, or in your case Colt/Winchester!!!
How else do you think ‘Danes’ ended up living in Argy occupied Puelmapu???
The ‘decline rate’ of Argentina is such that within a ‘few decades’, it will have shrivelled up, desiccated and disappeared up its own asshole.
You Argies aren’t capable of making a move, even if you wanted to and show no signs of being able to at any time in the Foreseeable future.
https://www.aerotime.aero/articles/argentina-gives-up-on-super-etendard-fighters-after-controversial-procurement
€12 million for Aircraft that never flew??? Macron did a number on you there, eh.
Better luck with the Norwegian P-3 Orions, which will be a lot more use considering the rate at which your Chinese friends are plunder your natural resources, inside your 200nml limit.
If you can afford them.
Meanwhile the S. Atlantic/Antarctic will remain in its rightful place, as British Territory.
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