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Argentine FM sends message to his British colleague regarding South Atlantic Islands
Argentine Foreign Minister Santiago Cafiero sent a message to his British colleague James Cleverly saying that “the UK has been violating Argentina's territorial integrity for 190 years.” The British government considered Thursday that a “regrettable choice of words” had been made. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesDeluded Peronist. return the message saying the islands have never been Argentinian and never will be unless the islanders choose so, and get a hair cut,
Jul 21st, 2023 - 10:30 am - Link - Report abuse +1Argentina? Wasn't that the country that started a war and lost it? Badly?
Jul 21st, 2023 - 12:15 pm - Link - Report abuse +2“Resolution 1514 (XV) proclaims the necessity of bringing colonialism in all its forms and manifestations to a speedy and unconditional end and declares that all people have a right to self-determination.”
Jul 21st, 2023 - 01:19 pm - Link - Report abuse +3The Resolution declares that ‘all people’ have a right to self determination. That includes the people of the Falklands.
Sr Cafiero says:
Jul 21st, 2023 - 02:17 pm - Link - Report abuse +4“I remind you that according to Resolution 1514 of the United Nations General Assembly, self-determination is not applicable to the inhabitants of the Malvinas,”
Errr no, it does not say anything of the sort, lets us see what it really says:
https://www.ohchr.org/en/instruments-mechanisms/instruments/declaration-granting-independence-colonial-countries-and-peoples
It does say:
2. All peoples have the right to self-determination; by virtue of that right they freely determine their political status and freely pursue their economic, social and cultural development.
And:
5. Immediate steps shall be taken, in Trust and Non-Self-Governing Territories or all other territories which have not yet attained independence, to transfer all powers to the peoples of those territories, without any conditions or reservations, in accordance with their freely expressed will and desire, without any distinction as to race, creed or colour, in order to enable them to enjoy complete independence and freedom.
Where the Falklands are listed with the UN as a ‘non self-governing territory’.
However S. Georgia and the S. Sandwich Islands are not. No permanent population and therefore no issue of decolonisation or self-determination.
Or for that matter any ‘special colonial situation’.
Opiate for the Malvinazis, he must know he’s talking total Bollox, but then that is what he is paid to do given they don’t have a legitimate claim.
Violating Argentina's territorial integrity for 190 years.
Jul 21st, 2023 - 03:10 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Wrong.
Falklands - Argentina’s Skewed Interpretation of Territorial Integrity (1 pg): https://www.academia.edu/44219603/Falklands_Argentinas_Skewed_Interpretation_of_Territorial_Integrity
“the UK has been violating Argentina's territorial integrity for 190 years.”
Jul 21st, 2023 - 10:37 pm - Link - Report abuse +4“Assessment of the Totality of Argentina’s Claim to Sovereignty
“Argentina failed to submit the dispute to a body capable of adjudicating the competing claims … One must conclude that Argentina failed to do so through neglect. ... However, … Great Britain acquired definitive title to the Islands by prescription before 1982.”
...But, after critically reviewing the bases for Argentina’s claim to sovereignty, one must conclude that Argentina never developed definite title to the Islands. None of the bases argued by Argentina are conclusive in establishing sovereignty.
Applying the rules concerning the mode of extinctive prescription to Great Britain's claim results in a different conclusion.
Extinctive prescription involves possession... one could conclude under general principles of international law that this was a sufficient to extinguish Argentina's claim.
Regardless of the conclusion reached above, however, the establishment of the world courts changed the situation so that diplomatic protests were no longer sufficient to keep Argentina's claim to sovereignty alive.
To avoid losing her claim by extinctive prescription, Argentina should have submitted her claim to the international court ... For over 50 years prior to 1982, Argentina failed to submit the dispute to a body capable of adjudicating the competing claims.
The Falklands (Malvinas) James Gravelle
MILITARY LAW REVIEW CONTEMPORARY INTERNATIONAL LEGAL ISSUES
Interesting that Skippy is interested in this controversial subject. Although he posts as Terrence Hill, his actual YouTube identity is humorous to review.
Jul 21st, 2023 - 11:01 pm - Link - Report abuse -4https://youtu.be/LBBrSSyp7_M
Enjoy!
“Interesting that Skippy is interested in this controversial subject”
Jul 21st, 2023 - 11:45 pm - Link - Report abuse -3It`s just a case of you the peculiar, being totally absorbed in your own peculiar muse. He has never been on this site.
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Poor Skippy
Jul 22nd, 2023 - 12:04 am - Link - Report abuse -3I make a simple observation and he goes into an unhinged tirade about narcissistim...
He should explain how he was catfished and was criticized by a judge in his scandalous lawsuit.
What I detest is his false military valour which is a crime.
He's obviously seriously troubled...
“What I detest is his false military valour which is a crime.”
Jul 22nd, 2023 - 02:38 am - Link - Report abuse -1“An assertion is a statement offered as a conclusion without supporting evidence. Since an argument is defined as a logical relationship between premise and conclusion, a simple assertion is not an argument.”
Ignoring the Burden of Proof https://learn.lexiconic.net/fallacies/index.htm
What's important is what proof, your opinion or my facts. It's no contest as https ://imgur.com/a/WDPeU shows the following engraving:
S.A.C T.L.HILL
No. 18 SQUADRON RAF
MARCH 1963
“No. 18 Squadron - Valiant equipped C Flight of 199 Squadron renumbered 18 Squadron at Finningley on 17 December 1958 and disbanded 31 March 1963.”
https ://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vickers_Valiant
Game, set, and match
@downunder you dont fit on “people” standard.. you are a Population or inhabitants, with other fundamental rights..
Jul 22nd, 2023 - 02:45 am - Link - Report abuse -7According to Dame Rosalyn Higgins, former British judge and former President of the International Court of Justice: ‘Until it is determined where territorial sovereignty lies, it is impossible to see if the INHABITANTS have the right of self-determination’. (International Law and the Avoidance, Containment and Resolution of Disputes. General Course on Public International Law’, Hague Academy of International Law Collected Courses, 1991, vol. 230, p. 174).
The only body to determine the application of the right to self-determination is the UN assembly, or the ICJ court. Not the occupying power.
and remember the words of the British jurist who presided over the ICJ, and she is from your own country.. she say “Inhabitants” , ur not people for international law
“Until it is determined where territorial sovereignty lies,” Is specific to West Sahara only
Jul 22nd, 2023 - 02:56 am - Link - Report abuse +2Whereas she specifically said about the Falklands
The jurist Rosalyn Higgins President of ICJ arrived at a similar conclusion when she pointed out: “No tribunal could tell her [Argentina] that she has to accept British title because she has acquiesced to it. But what the protests do not do is to defeat the British title, which was built up in other ways through Argentina’s acquiescence.” 1
1. Rosalyn Higgins, “Falklands and the Law,” Observer, 2 May 1982.
Argentine citizen.
Jul 22nd, 2023 - 04:45 am - Link - Report abuse +3How long do a people have to live on a previously unhihabited territory before Argentina recognises their right to sovereignty of that territory? There are people living on the islands today who can trace their ancestry back for hundreds of years, well before Argentina existed as a nation. The idea that the Falkland Islanders are not ‘a people’ and therefore not entitled to the protection of UN laws relating to self-determination is a straw man argument that sits comfortably alongside the racial laws of the Third Reich. Is this the sort of historical company that Argentines wish to be in?
Although the United provinces and then Argentina tried on several occasions to establish sovereignty over the Falklands it was never able to do.
“to establish a right to dominion on the fortuitous act of discovery, of on a momentary possession, is not sufficient: it must be formal or tranquil settlement, which includes habitation and culture.” 1.
1.Manuel Moreno, the Argentine Minister in London, 1833
Argentina has never been able to have and hold the Falklands, ambition is different from achievement.
By the way, I am not a Pom!
The entity known as “Argentina” has encroached on not “merely” indigenous peoples, but on bordering republics as well. For two centuries it goes, “Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.”
Jul 22nd, 2023 - 04:54 am - Link - Report abuse +1Argentine citizen
Jul 22nd, 2023 - 09:29 am - Link - Report abuse +3Here to help...
Chagos Advisory Opinion 25 Feb 2019
Para 161. In the Court’s view, the law on self-determination constitutes the applicable international law during the period under consideration, namely between 1965 and 1968. The Court noted in its Advisory Opinion on Namibia the consolidation of that law: “the subsequent development of international law in regard to non-self-governing territories, as enshrined in the Charter of the United Nations, made the principle of self-determination applicable to all of them” (Legal Consequences for States of the Continued Presence of South Africa in Namibia (South West Africa) notwithstanding Security Council Resolution 276 (1970), Advisory Opinion, I.C.J. Reports 1971, p. 31, para. 52).
Comment: Note the highest court in the world did not say ‘some’ or ‘most’ they said the principle of self-determination is applicable to ‘’ALL’ non-self-governing territories.
@Downunder the territory was not unhabited, your country expeled our people living there since 1820 to 1833.. there is not time prescription, and we will do the same as u did. we will evict your inhabitants let our people live there.. and voila, tell you how many time of ocupation shuld pass till uk recognize theyr right of self determination.
Jul 22nd, 2023 - 10:22 am - Link - Report abuse -5your country never had any kind of the settlemen u mention.. only an ilegal temporary militar settlemen between 1765 to 1774.. and afer that absolutly nathing 55 years of silence = Null land in 1820
Skippy Jessop has stolen the military valour of a former RAF Airman that served during the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis.
Jul 22nd, 2023 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse -3His bizarre and scandalous history is easily referenced in a number of news sources, including the Salt Lake Journal and a large collection of videos cataloged by YouTube.
I have no problem for any contributer using an alias - but I detest the idiot stealing the military valour of a deceased RAF Airman.
Meanwhile we here are experiencing heavy snowfall in the Andes mountains.
¡Saludos de Valle Nevado!
“UN Charter; DECLARATION REGARDING NON-SELF-GOVERNING TERRITORIES; Article 73; Members of the United Nations which have or assume responsibilities for ..peoples have not yet attained .. self-government recognize the principle ..b. to develop self-government, ...”
Jul 22nd, 2023 - 12:35 pm - Link - Report abuse +2October 16th,1975 The ICJ presents its advisory opinion on two questions concerning Western Sahara; “The validity of the principle of self-determination, defined as the need to pay regard to the freely expressed will of peoples, ...”
The Court also states; “The Charter of the United Nations, in Article 1, paragraph 2, indicates, as one of the purposes of the United Nations: “To develop friendly relations among nations based on ...the principle of equal rights and self-determination of peoples . .” This purpose is further developed in Articles 55 and 56 of the Charter. ...the subsequent development of international law in regard to non-self-governing territories, as enshrined in the Charter of the United Nations, made the principle of self-determination applicable to all of them”
Judge Dillard, .. adds; “ .. it is for the people to determine the destiny of the territory and not the territory the destiny of the people.”
More bullshite from Skippy is tedious to read.
Jul 22nd, 2023 - 01:40 pm - Link - Report abuse -3Again I refer to the YouTube video posted six years ago I still find entertaining:
https://youtu.be/LBBrSSyp7_M
Meanwhile we're enjoying the heavy snowfall while savoring a marvelous good wine.
Life is truly wonderful today!
¡Saludos de 3000mt!
Argie Cit, for 200th time NO civilians were expelled, but you already know that. all the civilians that were there on a private multi national business venture were invited to stay, only your illegal military were evicted, who were warned in advance not to go.
Jul 22nd, 2023 - 01:43 pm - Link - Report abuse -1“More bullshite from Skippy is tedious to read”
Jul 22nd, 2023 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Then you’d better find him and tell him, because he’s never been here, and you’re not all here.
Already answered at.
https://imgur.com/a/WDPeU shows the following engraving:
S.A.C T.L. HILL
No. 18 SQUADRON RAF
MARCH 1963
“No. 18 Squadron - Valiant equipped C Flight of 199 Squadron renumbered 18 Squadron at Finningley on 17 December 1958 and disbanded 31 March 1963.”
https ://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vickers_Valiant
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Argy citizen
Jul 22nd, 2023 - 05:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Back to the matter in hand for a moment, Sr Cafiero says:
“I remind you that according to Resolution 1514 of the United Nations General Assembly, self-determination is not applicable to the inhabitants of the Malvinas,”
Where in the document does it say this or anything like?
https://www.ohchr.org/en/instruments-mechanisms/instruments/declaration-granting-independence-colonial-countries-and-peoples
It actually says:
‘Immediate steps shall be taken, in Trust and Non-Self-Governing Territories or all other territories which have not yet attained independence, to transfer all powers to the peoples of those territories, without any conditions or reservations, in accordance with their freely expressed will and desire’.
Where the Falklands are listed by the UN as a ‘non self-governing territory’.
Just as your version of history is not supported by the facts, neither is your interpretation of UN resolutions.
You are so indoctrinated that you have completely lost any kind of ‘critical thinking approach’.
Try looking at the actual, verifiable evidence once in a while, before believing absolutely what you’re being told all the time.
The evidence is out there.
Been away for a few days, anything important happening?
Jul 22nd, 2023 - 10:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“ the territory was not uninhabited, your country expelled our people living there since 1820 to 1833”
Jul 22nd, 2023 - 11:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anybody who believes this is retarded, delusional or mentally deranged”
The people expelled from the islands arrived in October 1832, and immediately planted the flag of the United Provinces and claimed the islands for the UP. A weird thing to do if there was a working population of Argentines on the islands.
What there was, was the remnants of the Vernet business, and handful of folks (24) under the leadership of the British William Dickson.
Four or five of these 24 chose to leave on the Sarandi, none of them were Argentine. The rest remained.
The idea that the Vernet community was not allowed to return is more bollox as Captain Matthew Brisbane (another Briton and Vernets deputy) did indeed return in 1834. Vernet could have returned had he wanted to.
So, the reference to Resolution 1514.....a lie
The territorial integrity question....a lie
The eviction question....a lie
Oh well....if you a retarded enough to believe them...good luck
I state some primary and secondary sources, historical documents on which the Argentina’s legal sovereignty considerations on Malvinas are based. For instance, the Treat of Utrecht 1713 VIII between Spain-Britain that acknowledges the Spanish Crown dominion on South America and Atlantic South territories (later Argentina); this recognition is later reinforced by the Nootka Sound Treaty of 1790. These treaties are accessible online. Based on them & other international laws of the time, the dominion of Spain over the Islands is asserted ‘by right of prior discovery… (& later) sovereignty was transferred to the new nation (Argentina)’: this is a citation from ‘Una tierra Argentina: las Islas Malvinas’ by Caillet Bois, 1948: this book offers extensive historical documentation and maps, and even covers the USA’s denigration of the Monroe Doctrine since it failed to denounce, and even justified the 1833 second usurpation of the Islas Malvinas by the British empire.
Jul 23rd, 2023 - 07:01 am - Link - Report abuse -41960 UN Resolution 1514 (XV) On the Principle of Decolonization & Self-Proclamation: A) the Spanish sovereignty of South America & the Archipelago of the Atlantic South was recognised, (& the Argentinian afterwards; And since B) the Islands were deserted; after Spain expulsed the French & the British circa 1770, from 1774 to 1833 Spanish Governors to the Malvinas Islands ensured their possession (after 1813 the Argentines continued); Then, C) discovery & possession constitute sovereignty in international law. D)Since the Spanish/Argentinians had discovery, sovereignty, & possession, they came to be the original people of the islands, whereas the British invasion of 1833 that expulsed them by force, illegally replaced the originals inhabitants with their own citizens, whom descendants are still living in what it still is to them a foreign soil. This in turn voids the 2009 referendum of self-proclamation, as the residents of Malvinas are not original inhabitants of the islands.
The Utrecht Treaty is based on only its contents, not what is not written in it. It is exactly same interpretation as a contract is given, a literal interpretation. WHICH MEANS Argentina is subject to it,
Jul 23rd, 2023 - 11:34 am - Link - Report abuse 0“...it is hereby further agreed and concluded, that neither the Catholic King, nor any of his heirs and successors whatsoever, shall sell, yield, pawn, transfer, or by any means, or under any name, alienate from them and the crown of Spain, to the French, or to any other nations whatever, any lands, dominions, or territories, or any part thereof, belonging to Spain in AmericaThe Utrecht Treaty is based on only its contents, not what is not written in it. It is exactly same interpretation as a contract is given, a literal interpretation. WHICH MEANS Argentina is subject to it,
“...it is hereby further agreed and concluded, that neither the Catholic King, nor any of his heirs and successors whatsoever, shall sell, yield, pawn, transfer, or by any means, or under any name, alienate from them and the crown of Spain, to the French, or to any other nations whatever, any lands, dominions, or territories, or any part thereof, belonging to Spain in America.”
I'm enjoying a Bailey's coffee with a wonderful breakfast and enthusiastic about yesterday's impressive snowfall.
Jul 23rd, 2023 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse -3I'm also amused that Skippy continues to quote obscure legally nonsense about subjects he has only parroted from others.
Obviously the Falklands are not apart of Argentina.
That subject was decided in 1982, but poor Skippy's scandalous history is a story that brings amusement.
¡Saludos de Valle Nevado!
Someone needs to read the Treaty of Utrecht 1713 again
Jul 23rd, 2023 - 12:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://falklandstimeline.files.wordpress.com/2021/12/1480-to-1762-10.pdf
“I'm enjoying a Bailey's coffee … I'm also amused that Skippy continues to quote obscure legally nonsense”
Jul 23rd, 2023 - 01:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Chicureo “I've been surprisingly disproved as someone has been drinking way too much eggnog this evening and is behaving like a mean drunk on these joyous days.”
“Early this morning, over a mug of Baileys and coffee, I was trying to remember last night's remarkable ... conversation”
Besides all the normal beverages — we still have plenty of Casillero del Diablo Cabernet
Sauvignon ...”
”I’m on my third Baileys coffee this brilliant morning ... brewed coffee with about a quarter of the mug with room temperature Balieys(sic).”
“Sundown coming soon, 'n time for a bourbon.” Go on crawl back into your bottle you
pathetic drunk.
He has never been here, and you`re not all here.
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The Falklands are not apart of Argentina...
Jul 23rd, 2023 - 01:51 pm - Link - Report abuse -2Skippy continues to fret about what I drink and I continue to remind everyone of his bizarre sexual frustration.
https://youtu.be/LBBrSSyp7_M
Meanwhile today is outstanding weather with fresh powder and supreme skiing conditions.
¡SALUDOS!
You continue to fret about Skippy, your muse obsession.
Jul 23rd, 2023 - 03:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting, is that he has a website that attracts weridos like you, who engage in projecting.
” What is Psychological Projection (In Layman’s Terms)?
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As a result of externalizing our emotions and perceiving them in others, we continue suffering terribly, often creating false self-images that portray us as “the victim” or “the good/righteous person” when the reality is that we aren’t.”
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thanks for the post, I didn't even google that information when I was looking for nursing writing services :)
Jul 23rd, 2023 - 10:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina, Malvinas & Utrecht Treaty (UT)
Jul 24th, 2023 - 04:00 am - Link - Report abuse -4Historically & geographic documentation, in addition to the discovery, sovereignty, dominion and & possession of the territories of the West Indies (known as the Spanish dominions by the British empire and other European countries) are what constitute & support the Argentinian assertion to the Malvinas ownership. Read previous post on this topic. There were two treaties in 1713: the Madrid Treaty & the Utrecht Treaty reaffirming the Spanish dominion over these territories (what are now known as Mexico, Central America, and South America in its totality with exception of Brazil, a Portuguese dominion). As Kohen & Rodriguez state ‘Spanish were the rule (in America), and the British the exception’.
Mr Hill, laws are interpreted based on its content, its historical context, and with regards to other laws. In this case, the aim of these treaties was: 1) to prevent the unification of Spain and France as a result of the Spanish succession, as Britain etc foresaw & feared it would create a superpower. 2. Literally, the Utrecht Treaty excludes the French from uniting, accessing, inheriting etc any Spanish dominion. 3. UT Article VIII reaffirms Spanish sovereignty on its ancient dominions & makes references to the ways France should not have access to them; logically these don’t apply to the own Spanish colonies or future Argentina. 4. Ironically, Argentina came to be as a result of this treaty, as the Provinces of the South didn’t fight the Spanish rule in America, but the right of the French Prince Philip to rule Spain, throne he inherited as the result of the Utrecht Treaty. 5)The formation of the Provinces of the South was a result of these historical events & are tied to the independence wars.6. ‘uti possidetis iuris’ (‘as you possess under law’) is the broadly accepted international law of succession of old colonies into new sovereign states which should retain the domains their predecessors.
Kohen & Rodriguez state?
Jul 24th, 2023 - 06:40 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Photoshop Prof and Boy Blunder?
Yup, someone needs an education about the Treaty of Utrecht - in particular, article 8 which only returns Spain to the condition it was in in 1700 - and even then, only in the Caribbean.
https://falklandstimeline.files.wordpress.com/2021/12/1480-to-1762-10.pdf
The problem with the name West Indies (written in French in 1713 and with the appropriate capitals) is that to the British, that was only the Caribbean.
Go learn Geografay
“Laws are interpreted based on its content, its historical context, and with regards to other laws”
Jul 24th, 2023 - 12:00 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Is merely your unsupported opinion, whereas reality is:
“Across the interpretation of contracts, wills, trusts, deeds, patents,
statutes, regulations, treaties, and constitutions,1 legal theorists and
practitioners regularly evaluate the text’s ordinary meaning. ”
https://harvardlawreview.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/134-Harv.-L.-Rev.-726.pdf
“The language of treaties, like that of any law or contract, must be interpreted when the wording does not seem clear”
https ://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty
The Utrecht Treaty is based on only its contents, not what is not written in it. It is exactly same interpretation as a contract is given, a literal interpretation. WHICH MEANS Argentina is subject to it,
“...it is hereby further agreed and concluded, that neither the Catholic King, nor any of his heirs and successors whatsoever, shall sell, yield, pawn, transfer, or by any means, or under any name, alienate from them and the crown of Spain, to the French, or to any other nations whatever, any lands, dominions, or territories, or any part thereof, belonging to Spain in America.”
Crystal clear, there’s no ambiguity.
Another beautiful day in the Andes!
Jul 24th, 2023 - 12:57 pm - Link - Report abuse -4Today's breakfast was Eggs Benedict with hot buttered English muffins, Chilean ham, poached eggs topped with Hollandaise sauce along with a delicious Baileys coffee.
Conditions for skiing is excellent with fresh powder snow and we anticipate a marvelous day.
I'm amused that Skippy continues to lecture us about “...The language of treaties...” but many of the Mercopress readers already know his actual identity is a fraud.
Wishing everyone a fabulous Monday.
¡Saludos de Valle Nevado!
“Skippy continues to lecture us about”
Jul 24th, 2023 - 01:12 pm - Link - Report abuse +1“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.” Christopher Hitchens
“ Essentially, all narcissists tell on themselves.
”Projection is the process through which they reveal who they are and what they’re doing.
Through projection, they call you what they are. They accuse you of doing what they’re doing or planning on doing. They throw all the uncomfortable feelings onto you because they don’t want to deal with them. They throw their shame on you so they don’t have to deal with it.
So, essentially projection is an unconscious way of denying the existence of something inside oneself and attributing it to others, externalizing it.”
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Argy citizen/ Geography and history rights
Jul 24th, 2023 - 02:13 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Err, no answer to the question, a simple question, where in Resolution 1514 does it say ‘self-determination is not applicable to the inhabitants of the Malvinas,’????????
I have shown you where it says it is.
You simply cannot try and re-write UN resolutions, hoping no one will notice and ignore any questions and then expect to be taken seriously.
You are trying to do the same with the Treaty of Utrecht, even after being provided with a link which, once again, disproves your argument.
And with the Nootka Sound Convention 1790, let us see what that actually says:
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Nootka_Sound_Convention
ARTICLE VI: It is further agreed with respect to the eastern and western coasts of South America and the islands adjacent, that the respective subjects shall not form in the future any establishment on the parts of the coast situated to the south of the parts of the same coast and of the islands adjacent already occupied by Spain;
Firstly the Falklands are not ‘adjacent’ they are 400nms away, secondly the settlement there dates from 1765 and therefore not a new settlement after 1790, also it only refers to new settlements on ‘the coast situated to the south of the parts of the same coast and of the islands adjacent already occupied by Spain’
The Falklands are simply not covered under the terms of this agreement.
Once again the evidence does not support your version of history.
Which is the story of Argentina’s claim, laughable.
Inconvenient truths of Islas Malvinas, one of the last vestiges of British Imperialism
Jul 25th, 2023 - 06:34 am - Link - Report abuse -4IN 1492 America was discovered. In 1494 Spain & Portugal signed the Tordesillas Treaty, as only these nations had dominion the entire continent. Later, France, Britain, & Holland attacked the Americas colonies from mid XVII, when they started attacking these colonies. Kohen & Rodriguez statement on the Spanish American territories is correct: Spanish were the rule, & the British the exception. Name calling & dismissiveness can’t refute history. Their use demonstrates the lack of valid arguments on this topic.
The Madrid & Utrecht Treaties reinforced the Spanish sovereignty of its American dominions. Yet, imperialist defenders argue this treaty is the reason why Argentina shouldn’t have sovereignty over Malvinas. But let consider:
1. The Utrecht treaty prevented France or ANY OTHER NATION to settle or access etc the Spanish colonies. Since Britain is A NATION, this means that imperialists dis-honoured the treaties they signed when they invaded the Malvinas Island, in 1770 & in 1833.
2. Again: the British ignored the treaties they signed, & attacked the South Atlantic colonies.
3. The British ambitions to encroach its tentacles in South America didn’t stop at the 1770 invasion of Malvinas Islands; they illegally invaded the Viceroyalty of the Rio de la Plata twice, in 1806 & 1807. Both times they were expelled from Buenos Ayres by a mix of soldiers, ‘criollos’ civilians, & women that united to expel the attackers. At that time, their contemporaries guarded the Malvinas from further attacks.
4. In 1833, Argentina had sovereignty & possession over Malvinas.
5. The imperialists argue sovereignty over Malvinas, but their occupation is & was unlawful, as with their invasion, they attacked the Spanish territories they agreed to respect.
History is against you, imperialist Britan, you can’t reinvent it.
The cite on Manuel Moreno refers to the forced attack on Malvinas Argentinas 1833.
Agree 100% with G&H right .. We will be back at first defence slip or Force disbalance on our favour..
Jul 25th, 2023 - 09:48 am - Link - Report abuse -2We had all the time of the world, geographic adventage and good friends..
“1. The Utrecht treaty prevented France or ANY OTHER NATION to settle or access etc the Spanish colonies”
Jul 25th, 2023 - 10:07 am - Link - Report abuse 0So Argentina is not a nation then, or Brazil.
This renders Argentina a non-country as it is not Spain or Portugal and has settled in SOuth America.
Best give it back to Spain.
Argentina is a failed and corrupt country, but is not a Spanish colony unless of course you wish to be investigated by the C24.
Argie Cit , with silly threats again, let me make it clear, you will not be back ever. there will be no slips no pressure no nothing, the islanders will be defended no matter what, technology for transportation and military hard ware will have improved immeasurably beyond what we have now, stop living in la la land, in 20 to 30 years the Falklands will be a thriving independent country, what friends ?. the rest of South America dislikes you, China will not fight a war for you. you are a deluded individual if you think that , move on and get a life,
Jul 25th, 2023 - 10:18 am - Link - Report abuse -2The only thing ignored were the two diplomatic protests from Briton.
Jul 25th, 2023 - 10:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Such silence meant that Argentina had legally acquiesced.
“..qui tacet consentiré videtur-lit. he who is silent is thought to consent. Thus, he who keeps silent is assumed to consent; silence gives consent. In law, the silence of a party implies his consent.. A maxim of crime and consent. qui tacet, consentit-lit. he who is silent agrees. Thus, who keeps silent consents; silence means consent; silent consent is same as expressed consent; consent by conduct is as good as expressed consent. This is an implied term in law....”
SOMA'S DICTIONARY OF LATIN QUOTATIONS MAXIMS AND PHRASES
A Compendium Of Latin Thought And Rhetorical Instruments For The Speaker Author And Legal Practitioner
Leaving GB to look to what ever remedy she wished to apply. Which she has done with good effect
Another beautiful morning in the Andes with perfect snow conditions!
Jul 25th, 2023 - 12:17 pm - Link - Report abuse -3I continue to amused as Skippy Jessop quotes“...qui tacet consentiré videtur-lit. he who is silent... ...qui tacet, consentit-lit...”
Perhaps he could explain his actual identity on YouTube which is as equally warped.
Madame has defrosted her delicious cream chicken pot pie casserole, which is for dining after another anticipated great skiing adventure.
¡Saludos de Valle Nevado!
GeograFray
Jul 25th, 2023 - 12:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Treaties only bind those that sign them and you really need to look at the detail.
A little reading?
https://falklandstimeline.files.wordpress.com/2018/03/the-falkland-islands-in-the-european-treaty-system-1493-1833-jorg-fisch-1983.pdf
G&H
Jul 25th, 2023 - 01:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Still no response to the question, ‘where in Resolution 1514 does it say ‘self-determination is not applicable to the inhabitants of the Malvinas,’????????’
With your claims about the Treaty of Utrecht 1713, Nootka Sound Treaty of 1790, 1960 UN Resolution 1514 (XV) and 1770, from 1774 to 1833 all having been disproved, now your reduced to miss-applying the treaty of Tordesillas.
‘Scraping the bottom of the barrel now’, is the expression in English.
Treaties/agreements only apply to the parties that sign them, in this case Spain and Portugal.
It is irrelevant to anyone/everyone else, who were free to establish colonies where ever they liked, only Spain and Portugal had to stick to their sides of the line.
Surprised you didn’t try claiming that the Papal Bull which led to the treaty of Tordesillas was international law at the time, giving everything discovered and undiscovered to Spain and Portugal.
Perhaps you have realised your wasting your breath arguing Papal Bull with Protestants.
Next we need to look at the 1850 Convention of Settlement (Arana–Southern Treaty), which says:
VII. Under this Convention perfect friendship between Her Britannic Majesty's Government and the Government of the Confederation, is restored to its former state of good understanding and cordiality.
With no mention of the Falklands/Malvinas anywhere in the agreement, where between the re-establishment of British rule on the Falkland Islands in 1833 and the ratification of the treaty, Argentina sent annual protests to the British government by means of the Message to Congress, thereby maintaining Argentina's claim to the islands”. Following the treaty, such protests ceased, the matter was not raised again before the Argentine Congress until 1941
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/1850_Convention_of_Settlement
Argy citizen
Still dreaming of a military victory I see.
Which given the relative conditions of the British and Argentinian militaries, shows just how far from reality you are
“I continue to amused as Skippy Jessop quotes “
Jul 25th, 2023 - 01:52 pm - Link - Report abuse +1An impossibility as Skippy, your muse obsession has never been on this site, and you`re not all here.
”Diagnostic Terms for Defining Narcissism and Narcissistic Abuse
Anti-Social Personality Disorder (ASPD). A type of personality disorder in which an individual shows a strong disregard for norms, morals and the law, or the rights and safety of others. People with the disorder show a willingness to manipulate and exploit others. They also have a lack of empathy and will engage in impulsive, irresponsible behavior to serve their own ends. They are unconcerned with what others think and can be aggressive and hostile.
Ego-Syntonic/Ego-Dystonic. When a disorder produces behaviors or attitudes that are compatible with a person’s self-image, they are ego-syntonic. Most personality disorders are considered ego-syntonic, as the individuals with the disorders do not see their actions or attitudes as problematic.
Malignant Narcissist. A special sub-type of narcissist that has also some traits of ASPD, such as aggressiveness, deceitfulness, and remorselessness. They are often sadistic and gain pleasure from hurting others.
Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD). A type of personality disorder in which a person has grandiose fantasies of success and power with few or no achievements behind the fantasies. People with the disorder are constantly comparing themselves to others and feeling envious.
Neurotypical. A term once used to describe individuals who were not on the autism spectrum, it is now used as a term to contrast individuals who do not have a particular mental or behavioral disorder with those who do.
https://fairytaleshadows.com/narcissist-dictionary-terms/
I appreciate Skippy explaining his bizarre persona which has merited his own Wikipedia article:
Jul 25th, 2023 - 02:30 pm - Link - Report abuse -3”...Scott Jessop, known by his online alias IamSkippy, (born 29 October 1977) is an American Internet celebrity. Jessop is known for his original appearance in the TLC TV Series, Virgin Diaries...”
Meanwhile, I'm tasked with babysitting the grandchildren on the bunny slopes.
Truly a fantastic day to enjoy!
¡Saludos de Valle Nevado!
thanks for sharing an interesting post, this information was the price, I read it while the service wrote types of essays in my place, and I rested :)
Jul 25th, 2023 - 04:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I appreciate Skippy explaining his bizarre persona”
Jul 25th, 2023 - 04:35 pm - Link - Report abuse +1An impossibility as Skippy, your muse obsession has never been on this site, and you`re not all here.
“The research finds that children with low intelligence are more likely to hold prejudiced attitudes as adults.”
You don't have to look any further than this thread to see the dummies come out the woodwork and getting totally defeated and deluding themselves that they are winning an argument. When fact they have been totally bested.
”Crucially, people's educational level is not what determines whether they are racist or not - it's innate intelligence, according to the academics”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2095549/Right-wingers-intelligent-left-wingers-says-controversial-study--conservative-politics-lead-people-racist.html
Whereas, your readily acceptance of authoritarianism polices, hall marks you as undemocratic. By your own words you are revealed completely. “Although I've defended Pinochet despite his regrettable actions...I support nationalists that are willing to protect their nation ...”
I wish I had a lower I.Q., maybe then I could enjoy your company.
Whatever you are lacking in intelligence, you more than make up for in stupidity.
You have an inferiority complex and it is fully justified.
First I would remind the readers that the Islanders have already determined their future.
Jul 25th, 2023 - 09:33 pm - Link - Report abuse -2Secondly, only fools like myself risk in farming.
Certainly my family was saved by Pinochet and I will always be thankful. Growing grapes and avocados has been very rewarding.
Perhaps my greatest success has been our wonderful gypsy clan, which I'm currently enjoying this evening.
The grandchildren are amazing on the slopes!
Meanwhile we're opening a great wine and getting ready to savoring Madame's delicious casserole.
¡SALUDOS!
This is fucking great; you pop up for a few bars of your boring domesticity. Then the mask is dropped and the real you emerges, flush with all your pretty thoughts being exposed.
Jul 25th, 2023 - 10:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your viewing habits are very enlightening, seems to be a clear case of déjà vu. Namely a case of a pathetic weirdo watching a pathetic weirdo .
How pathetically desperate you are to try to attribute some random YouTube streamer as something to do with me. It's not my fault you have a rather provincial life style, with which you're obviously bored to death with. Your only relief from such a stifling existence, is to bullshit on the internet, and drink way, way too much alcohol.
Terence Hill and Chicureo.
Jul 25th, 2023 - 10:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Why don't you two go and find another site on which to squabble and stop annoying the rest of us with your nonsense.
It's been going on for years. Time for the two of you to grow up.
If you don`t like it your free to leave, nobody is begging you stay.
Jul 25th, 2023 - 11:03 pm - Link - Report abuse -2Actually Darragh has a valid observation. I'm finished on this thread exposing Skippy, although I'll continue to remind the MP readers in the future.
Jul 25th, 2023 - 11:27 pm - Link - Report abuse -3Sincere regards!
An exercise in absolute futility, as he has never been here. Proving that you are not all lhere.
Jul 26th, 2023 - 09:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Terence Hill
Jul 26th, 2023 - 10:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0So you want to carry on acting like a five year old.
Fine, just let me know when you reach puberty.
Fanacht fada
Jul 26th, 2023 - 01:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Oh please go fuck yourself enabler.
Jul 26th, 2023 - 02:57 pm - Link - Report abuse -2And I would like to remind the readers that illegal acts such as usurpation can’t produce legal results such as the decision of a referendum on self-determination. Therefore, the illegal British Government in the Malvinas Islands didn’t have the right to held a unilateral referendum, and so the result is not legally binding.
Jul 26th, 2023 - 03:38 pm - Link - Report abuse -3“Usurpation can’t produce legal results” Oh yes it does, and has in this very instance.
Jul 26th, 2023 - 05:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jurist Hans Kelsen, in his book General theory of law and state he writes:
“if the conquest is firmly established. Taking possession through military force of the territory of another State against the latter's will is possible, however, without any military resistance on the part of the victim. Provided that a unilateral act of force performed by one State against another is not considered to be war in itself (war being, according to traditional opinion, ”a contention between two or more States through their armed forces” and hence at least a bilateral action) annexation is not only possible in time of war, but also in time of peace. The decisive point is that annexation, that is, taking possession of another State's territory with the intention to acquire it, constitutes acquisition of this territory even without the consent of the State to which the territory previously belonged, if the possession is “firmly established.” It makes no difference whether the annexation takes place after an occupatio bellica or not.”
@TH naughty boy, we already debunked your atemp to made miss interpretations of Korman, kelsen , higgens and vettel..
Jul 26th, 2023 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse -4There was not conquest because there was not war declaration, ane acording British argumentative line the islands were of them.. so there was nathing to conquest.
Argie Cit, you have debunked nothing, every claim you have ever made over the last 12 months has been debunked over and over again by various posters, and yet you keep repeating the same old bunkem only to be destroyed again, oh so tedious, the only usurping in South America was the stealing of native lands by Europeans and their offspring (ie) you, all of mainland South America was taken by force, so how about you return it to the true owners and return to Italy Spain or Germany, can you not see how silly and hypocritical all this is, move on. you are achieving nothing, not this year not next year not in 10 years not in 50 years not in 200 years, Malvinas is a myth and a fantasy and a lie,
Jul 26th, 2023 - 06:38 pm - Link - Report abuse -2“There was not conquest because there was not war declaration,”
Jul 26th, 2023 - 08:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What about Hans Kelsen did you fail to understand?
“Taking possession through military force of the territory of another State against the latter's will is possible, however, without any military resistance on the part of the victim. Provided that a unilateral act of force performed by one State against another is not considered to be war in itself (war being, according to traditional opinion, ”a contention between two or more States through their armed forces” and hence at least a bilateral action) annexation is not only possible in time of war, but also in time of peace. “
”We already debunked your attempt to made mis interpretations
Like you failed to do above
No, you didn`t otherwise you would be able to provide proof. No proof, no truth.
Oh, dear you`ve just been crushed again.
I wonder if the myth were true, if an Argentine population had been expelled in 1833 would Britain's position be different? I think it is unlikely, but possible.
Jul 27th, 2023 - 04:14 am - Link - Report abuse +1However, Argentina had no population on the islands in 1833, it continually lies in every international forum, it makes up UN resolutions hoping nobody will check , it has invaded the islands and behaved appallingly to the islanders. It is a failed and corrupt state.
Therefore, we will stick as we are.
For idiots like Argentine zit, who is waiting for a moment of military strength, good luck. Be grateful we do not use our military superiority today to teach you a lesson.
@MM u are already using military superiority for stole countrys.. like argentina, irak, afghanistan etc... like all the history 400 years ago along world... the pieces change.. the game is the same.
Jul 27th, 2023 - 05:07 am - Link - Report abuse -1Everything has its time under the sun.
Jul 27th, 2023 - 02:25 pm - Link - Report abuse -3I see Brasileiro is off down voting again, on stuff he is clueless about, i take it as a badge of honour,
Jul 27th, 2023 - 02:39 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Argentine zit:
Jul 28th, 2023 - 03:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0Spain used its military superiority to steal South America from the indigenous peoples, and Argentina used its military superiority to steal independence from Spain. Argentina then used its military superiority to steal Patagonia. It is Argentina that has expanded its territory in the last 150 years through military conquest and imperialism, whilst Britain has voluntarily handed back its Empire in every single opportunity.
The only places Britain has not fully granted independence is where those former colonies are too small to protect themselves.
Argentina has a sickness, you are part of that sickness Toby, and it is the same sickness that whilst you have it you will never be a strong as Britain and continue your decline to a broken corrupt 3rd world failed state.
Of course in time, you may recover from the sickness, but that recovery will include forgetting all about the “Malvinas myth”, returning Patagonia and getting rid of corrupt Peronists for ever.
I'd say give it 500 years!
which some 5 million are willing to immolate themselves...
Jul 29th, 2023 - 10:16 pm - Link - Report abuse -1military capacity is built in only 10 years... and a logistical advantage of 7 to 1 in a war of attrition they lose.
You have a great military superiority, but many fronts in the world... and at home they are divided... they self-destruct in less than 100 years, they lose Scotland and Northern Ireland...
they do not even have a unanimous consensus among their population
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