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“EU approach on trade accord with Mercosur is simply unacceptable,” Paraguayan President elect Peña
Paraguay President-elect Santiago Peña has said that Mercosur and the European Union should put on hold talks over a free trade agreement since the current environmental demands from the EU are “unacceptable.” Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesWe dont need any deal with the UE.. they need energy, Gas & Oil.., metals and rare earths.. they on war with russia and had carency of this commodities.. all the things that UE can offer.. are produced by china, and we can purchase to them.
Aug 12th, 2023 - 06:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0Senor Cityzen, the EU needs nothing from Mercosur, but Mercosur needs investment from the EU,
Aug 12th, 2023 - 08:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Mercosur countries all have a low carbon footprint, positive co2 balance and low per capita energy consumption. We do not need false environmentalism from countries that are irresponsible in the use of energy, that were founded on the basis of carbon, that consume 10,000kwh/inhab and that use private jet planes to get around.
Aug 12th, 2023 - 09:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0We do not need investments conditioned under a pseudo environmentalism that is actually an excuse for us to agree free taxes their products but they want use the excuse of ambientalism to taxe our agro products.
At really they need us more than we need them.. we already had the strong chinesse investment, we are inside the silk road and brics already demand our gas, oil, agro products etc..
China and india will be 1st world power before 2050 and they already can produce the samd gods that EU and more cheap.. its preferible no deal on that conditions and pay more taxes for they mercedes benz, bmw, iberic jam etc no problem they only can offer not ecential produts for us.
We had the food, gas, oil, metals, fish, etc and rusia already locked them the doors..
Let's see who can hold more, if we for import more expensive their watches, cars and sumptuous goods or they with their empty stomachs and uncompetitive industries for more expensive energy and commodities.
free trade agreement without environmental conditions or no agreement.
Disagree Senor Cityzen, the EU is divorcing itself from all Russian Oil and Gas, an energy source that is being fazed out, the EU is a very powerful trading block with 2 of the richest countries in the world ie France and Germany, they need nothing from Mercosur, Mercosur needs access to the EU market place, and you need to be very careful getting in to bed with China, i doubt than China will overtake the USA as number 1, may be get close though.
Aug 12th, 2023 - 09:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argy _Cityzen
Aug 12th, 2023 - 01:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Firstly, the largest deposits, by some way, of rare earths in the world were recently discovered in Sweden.
As for ‘Carbon footprint’:
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/cumulative-co2-including-land
Cumulatively Brazil is the fourth biggest polluter in the World and way above any European country.
Then look at Annual CO₂ emissions by world region and S. America is some way above the EU and even the US and that is before you include emissions from land use.
That said, the ‘environmental clauses’ demanded by the EU are mostly protectionist measures to protect EU agricultural producers, a very powerful lobby in parts of the EU.
There is not and never was going to be any EU/Murcosur deal and even if there was it wouldn’t work, deals with the EU seldom do.
The one thing S. America has that the EU does want is Lithium, where any deal will not include any environmental clauses.
You dance with the Devil when you deal with the Chinese, remember Tibet, Taiwan and the S. China Sea.
Pughol, this is a tergiversed map.. at really the co2 produced by brasil.. its the co2 of the countrys that demand they exports not brazil co2 itself.
Aug 12th, 2023 - 02:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0According NASA argentina and brasil they are one of the few countries with carbon capture.
https://climate.nasa.gov/news/3251/nasa-space-mission-takes-stock-of-carbon-dioxide-emissions-by-countries/
Keep in mind that Brazil appears in pink as a carbon emitter exclusively due to external demand for its products by other countries. After all, it is Co2 generated by other countries and here the only valid index is Co2 and kWh of energy consumed per inhabitant.
Emerging countries have no responsibility for climate change or debt to the planet (it is tiny and despicable).
The European Union, the United States and Canada are the ones who are destroying the planet's climate. They consume 10,000kwh/inhabitant, heat the streets in winter, low use of public transport, massive private jet flights. Little recycling and programmed obsolescence of products.
They should be ashamed of trying to teach South America environmental lessons.
@Esteban. The only country that need nathing from mercosur its France (mainly lobby country that dont need and refuse the comercial deal)
Aug 12th, 2023 - 03:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0They are an smart country with clean energy (80% nuclear electricity), they can self produce food. Germany, spain and others will lost a lot without mercosur deal.. they ruined theyr self closing all the nuclear plants, rusia is not selling them cheap gas or oil. And u cant remplaze that fast.. it take years.. and wont be never cheap like rusia energy.. liquid gas and oil send by ships is more expensive.. in fact its a lost of industry competivity, less jobs, energetic crisis, more expensive cost of life = Recesion (we can already see it at the streets of paris, etc)
Also they need lithium for the new industry of transport.
We havent any problem abaut a make a comercial block deal with them, but not stupid conditions for take adventages.
We dont need them and all the things we import from the EU china made it cheaper and sell it..
And on theyr position of energy crysis.. they will lost all the market with china.. sorry but they havent a good position for impose conditions.
Citizen ,you are entitled to you opinion and i respect that, i have no disagreement with you about stupid conditions, however getting in to bed with China should be of concern to you, putting all your apples in one basket is not a wise thing to do, some African countries are now starting to realise this, the EU is an important trading partner, that is a fact of life,
Aug 12th, 2023 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Your map still show Brazil as the fourth biggest polluter in the world.
Aug 12th, 2023 - 03:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-which-countries-are-historically-responsible-for-climate-change/
‘For the first time, the analysis includes CO2 emissions from land use and forestry, in addition to those from fossil fuels, which significantly alters the top 10.’
‘China is a relatively distant second, with 11%, followed by Russia (7%), Brazil (5%) and Indonesia (4%). The latter pair are among the top 10 largest historical emitters, due to CO2 from their land’
‘European nations, such as Germany and the UK, account for 4% and 3% of the global total, respectively’
Historically India is now a bigger polluter than the UK.
With the exception of the US western countries are no longer the biggest emitters in today or historically, they have been overtaken by developing countries.
Added to this emission are falling in western countries whilst still rising steeply in developing countries.
Where China’s emissions Per capita are still lower than the US but higher than most other western countries.
This may have been invented by western countries but is now overwhelmingly being driven by developing countries.
Who are also the countries most exposed to climate change effects with the least ability to adapt.
Either they get with the program or burn.
China simply occupies the market shares that the United States and the EU lose by wanting to take minimal advantages.
Aug 12th, 2023 - 04:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I will give a great example: With the United States, Argentina imports goods for u$d10.263M and exports u$d6616M.
a negative trade balance for us of 3650 million.
This commercial market was much, much larger before 2015 and we bought much more from the United States.
Among Argentine exports to the US market were steel tubes for petroleum and citrus.
Trump took office and said “I will make America first, and I will renegotiate prioritizing our interests first.” 6 months after that speech, he raised the tariffs on the goods that we exported to steal advantage. Immediately our government took mirror measures on industrial and electronic products produced by the US, among other things.
China occupied that market share with companies like hwawei, xiaomi, among others. in addition to selling nuclear reactors, among other civil works.
and now bidenn sends emissaries begging to re-arm trade agreements or that we not buy from china.
They sabotage trade with ally country that already had positive trade balance on theyr favour, to gain nationalist advantage, and then complain that China is stealing their market share, funny.
You do not know how the Chinese CP works , they will not be taking minimum anything. you just wait and see,
Aug 12th, 2023 - 04:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Esteban, this are conspirstive theorys, the way i see it china its the first comercial ally of mercosur now.
Aug 13th, 2023 - 08:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0They seek commercial allies in South America for their silk route... and global strategy.
They are strong investors in the civil sector building roads, bridges, trains, nuclear reactors, hydroelectric dams... all credit at very low rates.
Only in Argentina they have a plan of 40,000 million investment in the pork sector, to diversify their food production and risks.
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y estan camino a ser vendedores e inversores primarios en el sector militar...
Ellos quieren que a sud america le vaya bien para empoderarse y hacerle la guerra a estados unidos y paises de la otan..
Nosotros no estamos con china, somos paises neutrales de paz haciendo comercio donde nos conviene.
Si la UE y estados unidos quieren dejar de ser comunisras y comerciar libremente con nosotros sin escusas bienvenido sea. Sino china ocupara ese lugar de supremacia
and they are on their way to be sellers and primary investors in the military sector...
They want South America to do well to empower themselves and wage war on the United States and NATO countries.
We are not with China, we are neutral countries of peace doing trade where it suits us.
If the EU and the United States want to stop being communists and trade freely with us without excuses, they are welcome. If not, China will occupy that place of supremacy.
We wish them all the luck in the world with the comercial war against China and belic war wirh Russia... but we will not get on that crusade...
We are neutral thinking on our bussines.
Inverted thinking: What are the biggest carbon dioxide sinks?
Aug 13th, 2023 - 01:22 pm - Link - Report abuse -1The Planet needs to be rescued. It is not enough just to stop polluting. You have to recover the planet and lithium, or any other mineral will not do it.
South America and Africa receive the highest incidences of energy on the Planet, the SUN! We have the technology to transform the most abundant chemical element in the universe into energy to power our engines, HYDROGEN. We will combine the electricity that comes from our solar and wind power plants, break down the water molecules and produce clean fuel, with one detail: the “garbage” that will be left over from this reaction is called OXYGEN.
Goodbye CO2
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Aug 13th, 2023 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One of the biggest carbon sinks on the planet is the Amazon rain forest, which is steadily being cut/burned down and replaced with land uses that actually emit CO2.
If the developing countries like Brazil, who are the big polluters today and now historically as well, do not start reducing CO2 emission in line with western countries, we are not going to avoid the worst effects of climate change.
It’s that simple.
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