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Punta Arenas Winter Hockey Cup: Tierra del Fuego official calls Chilean mayor a 'colonialist'
Success and the brilliant sportsmanship spirit from the Falkland Islands hockey teams, and their trophies, at the Punta Arenas Winter Cup, could not have come with some acid comments from Argentina. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesDachary is such a misery, is he not? It's such a good thing that the Falkland Islands is not a “colony”! He really ought to take his talk of colonialism up with the French about French Guyana or, perhaps, the US about their overseas territories if he is so bent on getting rid of colonies! Hawaii springs to mind, maybe Puerto Rico, Guam...
Aug 30th, 2023 - 08:19 am - Link - Report abuse +2Andres Dachary from the Tierra del Fuego government said it was “incomprehensible that Mr. Radonich allows British colonialism to take advantage of him, which is not only Argentina's main national Cause, but that has also been exposed at the United Nations since 1965 with Resolution 2065/65...
Aug 30th, 2023 - 09:09 am - Link - Report abuse 0The Irrevocable Demise of UNGA Resolution 2065 (XX) Question of the Falkland Island (1pg): https://www.academia.edu/43176571/The_Irrevocable_Demise_of_UNGA_Resolution_2065_XX_Question_of_the_Falkland_Islands
Man baby throwing his dolly out of the pram, because no one listens to him and he cant get his own way. how a handful of people playing a sport can upset him is bananas,
Aug 30th, 2023 - 10:32 am - Link - Report abuse +1Yarda, yarda, yarda….
Aug 30th, 2023 - 10:39 am - Link - Report abuse +1Or in other words its none of Argentinas business who we invite, keep your nose out, haha.
Aug 30th, 2023 - 11:57 am - Link - Report abuse +2A pity that in Brazil we only have summer games. If not, we would be delighted to beat you with this ice ball.(kkkkk)
Aug 30th, 2023 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Anyway, congrats to the team!
Pathetic.....people playing sport and being civil.
Aug 30th, 2023 - 02:40 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Bras
Aug 30th, 2023 - 03:02 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Are you actually Brazilian? because if you are you would know that Brazil has an Ice Hockey team (it also has a hockey team)
darragh
Aug 30th, 2023 - 03:15 pm - Link - Report abuse -3If I knew there was such an ice team, I wouldn't be Brazilian.
The problem with English is that he thinks in a straight line.
Brasileiro
Aug 30th, 2023 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Perhaps you show show more national pride before making idle comments...
Something to think about...
¡Saludos de La Dehesa!
Chicureo
Aug 30th, 2023 - 03:36 pm - Link - Report abuse -2How can I be proud of something I don't even know exists?
I can even know (through research) now. But pride is not something you buy at the supermarket.
Brasileiro
Aug 30th, 2023 - 03:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I agree that national pride cannot be purchased, but it should be of your heart.
I still remember my wonderful experience working in the Petrolina area with your country-men.
I sincerely admire your fantastic future - if it grows carefully...
¡Saludos de La Dehesa!
The Brazilian ice hockey team is controlled by the Confederação Brasileira de Desportos no Gelo. They do not have an IIHF rating and have not competed in the World Championship but they have competed in several Panamerican Games.
Aug 30th, 2023 - 04:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Andres Dachary from TdeF...“Let me ignore the genocide of the Selk'nam and Yaghan people due to Argentine colonialism in this region in the 1890s, and bleat on about a British colonialism fairy story that hurt nobody and that never happened in 1833”.
Aug 30th, 2023 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse +5Would be funny if not so pathetic.
Brazil lost 16 X 0 to Mexico!
Aug 30th, 2023 - 05:07 pm - Link - Report abuse -1Better stop this game here. kkkkk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Lu1Xit1MGQ
Getting upset over a handful of people playing sport shows the mentality of these clowns, the country is up to its neck in debt, thats what they should be complaining about, they need to grow up and move in to the real world,
Aug 30th, 2023 - 05:13 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Juan
Aug 30th, 2023 - 05:32 pm - Link - Report abuse -4Don't worry so much.
As long as your colony doesn't turn to the IMF, everything will be fine, I promise!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqNlPQScIwI&list=FLmXPTu1f8AdGlizWNiASx2A&index=111
Bras, the Falklands will be fine no matter how much crying and moaning the Argies do.
Aug 30th, 2023 - 05:41 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Britain gets nothing from the Falklands and wants nothing from them, but will defend the 4,000 people who live there as long as it is required, no colony, just a self governed overseas territory with people from 60 countries living a free and happy life.
If everything is wonderful, why the mistreatment of Argentines? What's the fear?
Aug 30th, 2023 - 05:48 pm - Link - Report abuse -5If Argentina's policies backfire, will the islanders suffer?
Look, there will be no more war around here. I promise!
Bras, who is mistreating Argentina ?, not the Falklanders and not Britain, but most certainly the Peronists have mistreated the Argentine public, the Falklands dont need Argentina for anything, the new international airport made Argentina irrelevant, Chile. Uruguay, Brazil will continue to be friendly towards the islanders, you do know there are people from those countries living on the islands, you are correct, there will be no more wars, new technology will see to that, its time Argentina dumped the Peronists for good and move in to the modern world just like Brazil has done,
Aug 30th, 2023 - 06:27 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Argentina funds sportsmen and women to take part in the Southern most road marathon in the world Stanley every year which they usually win. But they applaud enthusiastically any Falkland islander coming in behind them and also the local group when they win the team event. Argentina will give credit where its due generously when a smaller nation is successful at sport, for example Uruguay at football. Its a shame this time there has been sour grapes as Argentina are usually good sportsmen. when it comes to giving credit and praise when this is due in sports.
Aug 30th, 2023 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse +1Hmmmm....did you hear that at the World Bowls Championship an Argentine lady refused to play a Falkland Islander, forfeiting the game 21-0. Pathetic.
Aug 30th, 2023 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse +7Decolonization Committee?
Aug 30th, 2023 - 11:22 pm - Link - Report abuse +4Would that be the same Decolonization Committee that, for the 35th year, has failed to recommend its own Falkands resolution for adoption by the United Nations?
https://falklandstimeline.files.wordpress.com/2023/08/report-of-the-special-committee-on-the-situation-with-regard-to-the-implementation-of-the-declaration-on-the-granting-of-independence-to-colonial-countries-and-peoples-for-2023.pdf
No, Mr Lorton, that's the Committee of the United Nation that since the last decades has prompted the US, the British etc to once and for all stop colonialism in the XXI century. Is interesting how these ‘beacons of democracy ‘superpowers, refuse to return their usurped anachronic colonial territories to their rightful owners, including the Islas Malvinas to Argentina's sovereignty, as it was, and it should be.
Sep 03rd, 2023 - 04:18 pm - Link - Report abuse -5The British are grasping to straws with their fake 2012 referendum and the 'self-determination right' that doesn't apply to the British descendants of the pirates that usurped our Islas Malvinas, as they are not original inhabitants but a transplant to a foreign soil.
That is the Decolonization Committee he is referring to.
Grasping at straws , that is a good one, are you a comedian ? ,i suggest you look in the mirror, b4 coming out with silly statements like that, you talk more indoctrinated brainwashed nonsense than Malvi and Argie Cit,
Sep 03rd, 2023 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse 0G&HR
Sep 03rd, 2023 - 06:56 pm - Link - Report abuse +2The decolonization committee is there to reflect the rights of the people of the “colonies”.
“The United Nations Special Committee on the Situation with Regard to the Implementation of the Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples”
It has no position WHATSOEVER on sovereignty
It has no answer to the current position where the peoples like the status quo.
Of course Britain could do what France did and give everyone in the overseas territories a vote in UK elections, and they would come of the C24 list tomorrow. We could also grant them all independence tomorrow and they would come of the list. We chose to do neither, because the people who live there want neither.
Are Argentines the original inhabitants of Patagonia? We can ask the Selk'nam and Yaghan peoples if you can find any that Argentina didn't massacre?
Britain are the original inhabitants of West Falkland, the only sovereignty owners of South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands, and East Falkland was vacated by France and then Spain peacefully.
If you think the C24 has any say on sovereignty disputes you have not done any research.
GeoFraya - you are confused again. There is only one UN Decolonization Committee (C24) and I have provided a link to its annual report to the Fourth Committee. Recommendations start on page 42, and it can clearly be seen that the C24 is, once again, NOT recommending its Falkands resolution for adoption by the United nation. For the 35th year there will not be a new resolution.
Sep 03rd, 2023 - 09:24 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Argentina's press report extensively in June each year when some Argie Minister or tother speaks before the C24 in New York. Every year, that same press, together with the Argie government, proclaim another success in their pursuit of the British territory. BUT, it is a farce, a pantomime aimed to deceive the Argie people. In August every year, there is complete sience in Argieland when the C24 do, what they knew they were going to do back in June- i.e. NOT recommend that resolution for adoption.
Wirthout adoption, the C24 resolution dies. It's a joke, child, a joke played on 45 million Argies by their own government. With the connivance of the C24.
Read and learn, child, read and learn
https://falklandstimeline.files.wordpress.com/2023/08/informe-del-comite-especial-encargado-de-examinar-la-situacion-con-respecto-a-la-aplicacion-de-la-declaracion-sobre-la-concesion-de-la-independencia-a-los-paises-y-pueblos-coloniales-cor.pdf
It is extraordinary that someone who claims to be “educated” and has studied “for many years” is so clueless to the truth. Our new “friend” has clearly made her own echo chamber where her Argie friends lap up her “version” of events, but she has no critical thinking ability whatsoever.
Sep 03rd, 2023 - 10:17 pm - Link - Report abuse +2Britain voluntarily gave up its Empire, more than 1/4 of the land on Earth. It would seem odd that it clings to a dozen or so tiny territories when it willingly handed Canada, Australia, huge swathes of Africa, Malaysia, Singapore, Brunei, most of the UAE and the Caribbean to the inhabitants.
There are two reasons, the most important one is the majority of Overseas Territories are too small to be independent countries, and/or do not want to be.
As above, it the C24 was important, Britain and the US could simply fully incorporate the territories and take them of the list, equally they could force independence on them against their will, finally they could force another country to take sovereignty.
They are the only three methods.
The C24 has no say whatsoever on who “the rightful owners” are other than the people who live there. Indeed the last time the UN General Assembly voted, they agreed that a sovereignty dispute did NOT supersede the rights of the NSGTs to self-determination.
It appears that G&HR is wrong again
No usurpation
No eviction
No inheritance
No geographic right
No UN resolution denying the islanders rights
Nothing, bet she doesnt go back to her echo chamber with that !!
04/09/2023
Sep 04th, 2023 - 01:17 am - Link - Report abuse -2Inconvenient Malvinas truths # 20
Nope, no confusion here. The Islas Malvinas were, are and will be Argentinian, and the majority of the countries in the world know it.
Even your own countrymen acknowledge that: 49% British citizens know and think the Malvinas Island’s sovereignty sits in Argentina.
The only ones insisting the British citizens inhabiting a foreign land are ‘original people’ are the men in this thread, and of course your pals the yanks.
Strange, strange, that when is time to demonstrate how democratic your countries are, UK &USA just talk the talk, but no democratic values are shown to liberate foreign soil from their imperialistic ambitions. In this, they are no different from Russia or China. And that is the TRUTH, whether you like it or not, gentlemen.
The rest of your countrymen know the history of the British empire, and agree that there shouldn’t be vestiges of colonialism = imperialism in the XXI. As I said, an anachronism that should be corrected asap.
GeoConfused
Sep 04th, 2023 - 01:36 am - Link - Report abuse +2Here is a link to the United Nations Library - UN General Assembly Resolutions.
See if you can find a Falkands Resolution after 1988.
https://research.un.org/en/docs/ga/quick/regular/77
If Argentina actually had all the support you claim, wouldn't you have had a new resolution by now?
Allow me to educate you. Every year, the question of the Falkland Islands is placed on the provisional agenda of the General Assembly. To reach the actual agenda, all any member nation has to do is ask for the subject to be discussed at the GA. There was a call in 1989, but the Chair of the General Assembly declined to allow it. Probably because he knew that Menem was in discussions with the British. Same in 1990 - a call, but no response. negotiations were still taking place.
Since then, there has been no call for a GA debate. Not by any member of the United Nations - INCLUDING Argentina. Perhaps you should ask your government why?
This state of affairs is made clear every year by the last paragraph of the UN Secretariat Working Paper published in the first quarter. I quote the 2023 Working Paper -
88. In its resolution 58/316, the General Assembly decided that the item entitled
“Question of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas)” would remain on the agenda for
consideration upon notification by a Member State. As at the date of the issuance of
the present working paper, no such notification had been received.
Same every year.
I suggest that you study more.
What a deluded person you are Geofray. another Peronist living in la la land, believing every bit of propaganda that is printed in you media. or lied about on your tv channels,
Sep 04th, 2023 - 08:39 am - Link - Report abuse -11 the islands have never been Argentinian and never will be,
2 the rest of the world are sick to death of Argentina crying at every international meeting they attend, and have no interest what so ever,
3 99% of Brits support the islanders right to decide their future.
You clearly are very confused about history and world affairs, go get a real education.
Geo&HR
Sep 04th, 2023 - 01:14 pm - Link - Report abuse +1I think the pressure of life is getting to you. A recent survey (linked to this site by “Think”) showed that almost nobody in the UK thinks the islands are Argentine, and the vast majority either hold the view that they are British or that the islanders get to decide (or both).
You wouldn't know the truth if it bit you on the 'arris.
The majority of countries voted with the UK and against Argentina in the UN General Assembly when asked whether a sovereignty dispute denies the rights of the people non-self governing territories to self determination. Outside of Latin America and a few corrupt failed states only 2 or three countries voted with the Argies (I have posted the link many times)
There are vestiges of imperialism everywhere, Argentina is one, Australia is one, the USA is one...they are hardly indigenous are they? Do you think Spaniards were the original people in the Americas? Blimey!
As for the handful of overseas territories, as I said you can choose....we can either fully incorporate them as France did, or let them be independent....both takes them off your beloved list.
There are no Malvinas islands, and as has been proven to you, other than two failed 10 week invasions in 1832 and 1982 the Falklands have not been Argentine either.
Geography and history rights
Sep 04th, 2023 - 02:45 pm - Link - Report abuse +104/09/2023
Some inconvenient truths for you and Argentina:
Seeing as you are an 'expert' on the subject perhaps you would like to list all those parts of the 'British Empire' who either wish to be 100% independent or wish to continue their ties to the UK.
Here I'll give you a start:
The these are 14 territories which you need to do your 'research' on::
Anguilla;
Bermuda;
British Antarctic Territory (BAT);
British Indian Ocean Territory (BIOT);
British Virgin Islands;
Cayman Islands;
Falkland Islands;
Gibraltar;
Montserrat;
Pitcairn,
Henderson, Ducie and Oeno Islands;
Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha;
South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands
Akrotiri and Dhekeilia
Now please tell me the answers to your alleged 'research'
I'll wait.
Lies Number 1-4
Sep 04th, 2023 - 05:17 pm - Link - Report abuse +4Nope, no confusion here. The Islas Malvinas were, are and will be Argentinian, and the majority of the countries in the world know it.
The islands never were (1), certainly are not (2) and are not likely to be (3) Argentine, and the majority of the countries of the world voted with the UK last time Argentina wanted to strip self-determination from the islanders (4).
Lie number 5 : 49% British citizens know and think the Malvinas Island’s sovereignty sits in Argentina...Nope 86% of a recent poll said Britain or the Falklanders should have sovereignty..5.5% said Argentina
Lie 6 and 7 and 8 “The only ones insisting the British citizens inhabiting a foreign land are ‘original people’ are the men in this thread, and of course your pals the yanks”.
I don't recognise the term “original people”, the Falklands doesn't have original people...just a variety of European colonies, and the current population. The majority of countries support the right to self determination of the Falklanders, those that don't are Latam countries, failed states and a handful of countries who also want to seize territories.
Lie 9
“but no democratic values are shown to liberate foreign soil from their imperialistic ambitions”...please ask any of the inhabitants of the “foreign soils” what they want and they will tell you. Just like we asked the inhabitants of most of our former Empire and gave them what they wanted. Who's democracy are we ignoring?
All of our country knows the British Empire, and our proud it voluntarily disbanded handing democracy to the people who lived there.
Its a shame G&HR, you have gone from peddling the long disproven Argie myths, which are fun to disprove again, to blatant propaganda and lies.
Just moves you from the brainwashed pile into the braindead pile....
Geography and history rights
Sep 06th, 2023 - 10:51 am - Link - Report abuse +1I'm still waiting for an answer.
Funny how the malvinistas go quiet when you ask them for facts other than their faintly ridiculous opinions.
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