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UK committed to upholding self-determination and responsibilities in BOTs: Gibraltar and Falklands

Thursday, October 12th 2023 - 08:43 UTC
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United Kingdom statement delivered by Mungo Woodifield, UK Spokesperson to the UN, at the UN Fourth Committee on Decolonization. Transcript of the speech, exactly as it was delivered. Read full article

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  • Dirk Dikkler

    And this will be dismissed yet again by Argentina and the committee.

    Oct 12th, 2023 - 10:56 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Steve Potts

    Some people need to look up the meaning of the word ''All''. It's quite a simple all inclusive word really...

    What did the UN ICJ say about the applicability of self-determination in 2019?

    Self-Determination Non-Self-Governing Territories (1 pg): https://www.academia.edu/100673806/Self_Determination_Non_Self_Governing_Territories

    Oct 12th, 2023 - 11:37 am - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Tænk

    TWIMC....

    ALL the above “ Official Anglo Speak” about “Rights for All”...,, is very, very nice....

    But it does..., of course..., not apply for them millions of Muslim Sandnigga Animals in Palestine..., the Millons of Russki Orthodox Animal minorities in Ukraine..., Georgia..., Lithuania..., Estonia..., Latvia et al..., the thousands of Blackish Good-Man Friday Animals of Chagos..., etc..., etc..., etc...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L67KCD3inM0

    Right...?

    Oct 12th, 2023 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Bud Spencer

    Troll alert, the racist POS is back. what a cabbage,

    Oct 12th, 2023 - 01:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tænk

    Geeeeeeeee.....

    The First Pages of the Anglo Press were yesterday reporting biiiiiiiig the fake news of the beheading of some 40 Innocent, Indefence Jewish Newborn Babies by them Savage Palestinian Subhuman Monsters...

    Anglo Presdents..., Prime Ministers and Leaders serially lied on record..., saying they had seen the pictures and evidence of the Bestial Monsruosities commited by them Savage Palestinian Subhuman Monsters... ..., some of them publicly asking to “finish ALL them Savage Palestinian Subhuman Monsters OFF...”

    But........, for the Brainwashed Anglo Turnips..., Poor Patagonian Pacifist little me is the racist because I call them Sandniggas for Sandniggas...

    Chuckle..., chuckle...

    Oct 12th, 2023 - 02:40 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Juan Cervantes

    Hey Bud, you have knicked my saying. lol. but you are correct, he is a disgusting racist, a troll and a poor excuse for a man, LMFAO.

    Oct 12th, 2023 - 03:39 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Tænk

    I HAVE A QUESTION for any Anglo out there kind enough to help illuminate this Poor Patagonian Pacifist that I am...

    Down..., I link to a NBC video were the democratically elected President of the USA..., leader of the Anglosphere and the man with his finger on tha “Red Button” says...:
    - “I never really thought that I would see and have confirmed pictures of terrorists beheading children”....
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/biden-deliver-remarks-roundtable-jewish-community-leaders-rcna119865

    Well..., as this Fake News“ has already been ”Clarified“ by his own White House staff..., it becomes clearer by the second that Mr. BIDEN is definitively crossing the permanently foggy dire straits of the Alzheimer Channel...

    NOW..., MY QUESTION IS...:
    - With President Biden clearly being incapacitated by hisAlzheimer..., condition not yet made official..., who in BLOODY HELL is on the Helm of God's own Country...?

    ”Freddie Krueger“ or ”Jason Voorhees”...?

    Capisce la domanda..?

    Oct 12th, 2023 - 08:23 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Argentine_Cityzen

    If the United Kingdom wishes that its citizens in the Falklands/Malvinas should decide the
    fate of the territory they inhabit, that territory should be British. On the contrary, there is a
    dispute over sovereignty with Argentina. According to Rosalyn Higgins, former British
    judge and former President of the International Court of Justice: “Until it is determined
    where territorial sovereignty lies, it is impossible to see if the inhabitants have the right of
    self-determination”. In other words, according to the distinguished British jurist, the
    Anglo-Argentine territorial dispute must first be solved, in order to know whether the
    British inhabitants can decide what they want for their territory. This clearly means that the
    alleged “self-determination” of the British inhabitants cannot be imposed to Argentina, nor
    can it constitute an excuse to leave the dispute over sovereignty unresolved.
    The British argument of self-determination in the case of the Falklands/Malvinas is also
    seriously undermined by the United Kingdom’s indisputably inconsistent policy. There was
    no “self-determination” when they expelled two thousand native inhabitants from the Chagos archipelago. In 1966, the British government leased Diego García Island in the
    Chagos archipelago to the United States, for it to build a military base on the island.
    There was also no “self-determination referendum” when Margaret Thatcher’s government
    returned Hong Kong to China, its legitimate owner. Even less did it grant full British
    citizenship to the five million Chinese residents in the territory, as happened with the two
    thousand inhabitants of the Falklands/Malvinas whose origins were European. In other
    words, self-determination is a specious argument being used to maintain one of the last
    vestiges of the British Empire, with no legal basis whatsoever.
    The population is a simple
    adjustment variable to maintain their colonial remnants around the world.

    Oct 13th, 2023 - 06:34 am - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Argentine citizen

    Neither the General Assembly of the United Nations, nor its Decolonization Committee
    have applied the principle of self-determination to the current inhabitants of the
    Falkland/Malvinas Islands, is precisely because they have correctly interpreted the
    applicability of Resolution 1514 (XV) to that particular case. On the one hand, they take
    into consideration the respect for Argentina’s territorial integrity; on the other, they do not
    determine there is a human community entitled to the right of self-determination in the case
    of the Falklands/Malvinas.

    Oct 13th, 2023 - 06:39 am - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Monkeymagic

    AC
    Virtually everything you just said is false.
    Indeed the UNGA apply the principle of self determination to ALL NSGTs and when Argentina tried to sperate the Falklands the UNGA voted with Britain.

    Oct 13th, 2023 - 08:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Argentine citizen

    not really.. there are maybe some NSGT that can had that right of self determination, some of them are not included inside the list of the dezcolonization comite.

    Oct 13th, 2023 - 09:17 am - Link - Report abuse -6
  • Bud Spencer

    That is just your opinion Citizen, but not the facts,

    Oct 13th, 2023 - 09:32 am - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Terence Hill

    According to Rosalyn Higgins, “Until it is determinedwhere territorial sovereignty lies, it is impossible to see if the inhabitants have the right ofself-determination” concerning only Western Sahara.

    “The jurist Rosalyn Higgins President of ICJ arrived at a similar conclusion when she pointed out: ”No tribunal could tell her [Argentina] that she has to accept British title because she has acquiesced to it But what the protests do not do is to defeat the British title, which was built up in other ways through Argentinas acquiescence.“ 1
    1. Rosalyn Higgins, ”Falklands and the Law,” Observer, 2 May 1982.

    Oct 13th, 2023 - 10:44 am - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Argentine_Cityzen

    There is not acquiescence, we never drop or stop the claim. U can read jurists like korman.. the acquiescence is douful.

    But rosalyn higgins was right abaut there is not self determination until its determined where the sovereignty lies.

    If the UK acept discuss the sovgereignty into the ICJ.. and prove the adquisence and there was not an eviction of the argentine settlemen of 1833.. the current inhabitants will had the right of self determination. We will acept it and be good neightbours.

    Oct 13th, 2023 - 10:55 am - Link - Report abuse -7
  • Terence Hill

    “There is not acquiescence, we never drop or stop the claim.”

    Assessment of Argentina’s Claim to Sovereignty
    “Argentina failed to submit the dispute...there is little doubt that GB acquired definitive title to the Islands before 1982.“ Pamphlet NO. 27-100-107 DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY; Washington, D.C., Winter 1985

    Sharon Korman was wrong, as The Caroline ”anticipatory self-defense“ in international relations, which holds that it may be justified only in cases in which the ”necessity of that self-defense ...
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caroline_affair#
    Whereas, Kelsen clearly states “It makes no difference whether the annexation takes place after an occupatio bellica or not.”

    ”The Caroline affair (also known as the Caroline case) was an international incident involving the United States, the United Kingdom, and the Canadas which started in 1837 and lasted until 1842.“
    Regardless it is post retroactive law as it could be applied, if merited only after 1842.

    ”...The rule of the intertemporal law still insists that an act must be characterized in accordance with the law in force at the time it was done, or closely on the next occasion. ...
    The Acquisition of Territory in International Law By Robert Yewdall Jennings a Judge of the International Court of Justice from 1982. He also served as the President of the ICJ between 1991 and 1994. .

    Oct 13th, 2023 - 02:36 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Tænk

    Geeeeeeee..., Argie_Citi-tyzen...

    - You are making a laudable information effort on this thead but..., at the moment..., as there are only some of their very best *“BATmen” present in here..., you will need to switch from the“Engrish” to the ”Turnipish language... ;-)
    *(Brainwashed Anglo Turnip Men)

    - Bur please take into consideration that these Democracy..., Human Rights and International Jurisprudence BAT's “experts” above..., do not even know who the heck is leading them to a Multi-Front War against Russia..., China..., Iran..., a couple of dozen other Muslim Sandnigga Countries..., Cuba..., Venezuela..., Nicaragua..., Mexico and..., only God knows...,who else..., now that our beloved Yankee President..., Mr JOE BIDEN is under the total control of DOCTOR STANGELOVE von ALZHEIMER...:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZct-itCwPE&pp=ygUaZHIuIHN0cmFuZ2Vsb3ZlIGJlc3Qgc2NlbmU%3D

    Capisce...?

    Oct 13th, 2023 - 04:44 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Juan Cervantes

    I look with disbelief at all the Argentine posters up voting a person calling Arabs sand N..g..s. , what is wrong with you people. in the past he has done the same with many other nationalities including Argentinas new best friend China, take a long hard look at yourself,

    Oct 13th, 2023 - 06:00 pm - Link - Report abuse +5
  • Tænk

    TWIMC...

    - Them Brainwashed Anglo Turnips DO NOT LOOK UP in disbelief at the many millions of Iraqui..., Afghan..., Libyan..., Syrian..., Yemenite and other Countries Sandniggas they have killed in the last ~30 years... (Not to mention the many more millions maimed and displaced ones...)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQERWWbnA5c&pp=ygUdRG9udCBsb29rIHVwIHBvbGl0aWNpYW4gc2NlbmU%3D

    Nope...

    - Them Brainwashed Anglo Turnips DO LOOK DOWN in disbelief at a humble & auld Patagonian Pacifist that..., for more than evident reasons..., makes efficient use of a Classic Anglo Speak Racist Slur..., coined loooong ago by some Brainwashed, Racist Anglo Speaking Anglo Turnip...
    (-“Negrito de las Arenas”- would surely NOT have the same desired effect... ;-)

    Capisce...?

    Oct 13th, 2023 - 07:38 pm - Link - Report abuse -6
  • Juan Cervantes

    You are one disgusting individual, no more needs to be said,

    Oct 13th, 2023 - 08:02 pm - Link - Report abuse +3
  • Terence Hill

    What You Say About Others Says A Lot About You.

    “Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.” Eleanor Roosevelt

    “If we complain, speak foully, and use insults to emphasize our distaste for someone, we are displaying a lack of compassion, a lack of personal responsibility for our role in the relationship or interaction, and needless to say, narcissism.”
    http://bewellplace.com/say-people-reveals-character/

    Oct 13th, 2023 - 08:35 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Tænk

    Hmmmmm...
    Lots of Anglos around..., but not a single one able to answer a simple question..., huuhhhhh...?

    QUESTION WAS AND STILL IS...:
    - With President Biden clearly being incapacitated by his advancedAlzheimer (condition not yet made official..., btw) who in BLOODY FREAKING HELL is on the Helm of God's Own Country...?

    ”Freddie Krueger“ or ”Jason Voorhees”...???

    Capisce la domanda..?

    Oct 13th, 2023 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Bud Spencer

    Your parents must be really proud that they have raised a racist, (i think not),, Juan dont waste one more second of your life debating with this thing, as for the clowns that continually up vote for him , that says an awful lot about their character, no wonder the rest of South America dislike Argentina,

    Oct 13th, 2023 - 08:58 pm - Link - Report abuse +1
  • Tænk

    Juppppppp...
    A I just said above...
    Lots of Anglo Turnips around..., but not a single one able to answer a simple question...

    Oct 13th, 2023 - 09:34 pm - Link - Report abuse -4
  • Bud Spencer

    No one answers because they dont want to debate with a racist retarded cabbage,

    Oct 13th, 2023 - 09:38 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Argentine_Cityzen

    The United Kingdom is the father of global racism, it was the creator of slavery.
    of apharteid in South Africa, the chemical castration of homosexuals like Alan Girando... Evil...

    and now it is the attempts to manipulate the right to self-determination... there is no self-determination for the Palestinian people (despite the fact that Israel has been exterminating them and stealing their territory).
    neither self-determination for the Chagossians nor for the 3 million inhabitants of the Donbass

    Oct 13th, 2023 - 10:27 pm - Link - Report abuse -5
  • Argentine citizen

    The translator.. my excuses.. alan turning mean.

    Oct 13th, 2023 - 10:28 pm - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Bud Spencer

    Citizen, you are talking rubbish, slavery has been around 1000s of years, Chinese had slaves Japanese had slaves, Romans had slaves Turks had slaves Arabs had slaves Africa had slaves. Mongols had slaves, Spanish had slaves the Incas had slaves, the largest exporter of slaves to the new world was Portugal. Apartheid was created by the Dutch settlers not the British, your education is clearly lacking, Britain supports the right of Palestine to have its own state, and your Donbass argument is crazy which has been explained to you on more than one occasion in the short time i have been on this site, clueless,

    Oct 13th, 2023 - 10:58 pm - Link - Report abuse +2
  • Tænk

    - Meanwhile..., the “Democratic Anglosphere”..., leaded by an elected 80 years old Alzheimer patient..., controlled by anonymous, unelected “Nobody Knows Who's”“..., continue ther campaign for their new ”Rules Based World Order”...

    - This time on a couple of million strong..., religiously & racially carefully selected and duly concentrated target group of Sandniggas...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L67KCD3inM0

    Whilst them Brainwashed Anglo Turnips dance in joy...

    Capisce...?

    Oct 14th, 2023 - 05:41 am - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Terence Hill

    What's the difference between Argentines and terrorists? - Terrorists have sympathizers

    Oct 14th, 2023 - 09:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Bud Spencer

    Terrence, in the short period of time i have been on this site i have come to the conclusion that the poster Taenk is stark raving bonkers, his posts are never relevant to the subject and putting it mildly barking mad, sectioning a straight jacket and therapy is required, how on earth Argentine posters upvote this moron is a mystery, they should be ashamed,

    Oct 14th, 2023 - 10:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • darragh

    Bud

    I used to think that he was a Russian shit stirrer but now I've come round to your point of view.

    Best thing to do is ignore his crap.

    Oct 14th, 2023 - 10:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tænk

    TWIMC...

    - Good thing for them Brainwashed Anglo Turnips ..., that all things are going exactly as they are brainwashed to believe...!

    - Now that Mr. Putin is dying of his ~327 different repported ailments and the Orthodox Russkies have been completely anihilated in Ukraine and beyond...they can now concentrate on the ongoing narrarive of the total and deserved destruction of all them bearded Mohammed worshipping Sandniggas...

    For..., immediately thereafter..., enjoying the quick and easy wiping off the face of the Earth of all those Bloody Buddhi-Communist Gooky Chinks...

    Yuppppp.... it is no other than a complete certainity..., that TOMORROW BELONGS TO THEM..., them Brainwashed Anglo-Saxon Turnips...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tUctFu46_c&pp=ygUgdGhlIGZ1dHVyZSBiZWxvbmdzIHRvIHVzIGNhYmFyZXQ%3D

    Chuckle...,chuckle..., rechuckle...

    Oct 14th, 2023 - 11:01 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Terence Hill

    A Brazilian enters the Police Station and confesses to the Chief.“I came to turn myself in, I committed a crime, I can not live in peace”
    Sir the laws here are very severe and must be obeyed, if you are guilty there will be no getting out of jail time because of your guilty conscious. Exactly which crime do you wish to confess to? “I ran over a man”, replied the Brazilian.This is bad, you may indeed wind up in jail! “It was an Argentinian on the road near the border”, explained the Brazilian.
    Oh well that is different my friend, you can not blame yourself if those Argentinians are crossing the roads all the time without checking to see if someone is coming. “But he was standing on the side of the road”, the Brazilian added. Well then it was quite likely that he was going to cross that road anyway, if not you then someone else would have hit him. “But I did not have the decency to inform the man's family of this”, the Brazilian explained. My friend had you informed them, there would have been manifestations, popular repudiations, protests, fights and even more people would likely die! No sir you did the right thing, if anything, I think that you are a pacifist and deserve to have a statue built in your honor. “But it gets worse...I buried the man by the side of the road”, sobbed the Brazilian. You are indeed a true humanitarian! Anyone else would have left the body by the side of the road to be eaten by the buzzards and hyenas...“But he kept saying that he was not dead”, the Brazilian confessed.
    AHA!! Lies of course...What do you expect out of an Argentinian.

    Oct 14th, 2023 - 11:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tænk

    I Tænk the original joke was about an Israeli and a Palestinian...

    Or was it about a German and a Jew...?

    Or an Engrishman and a Coolie...?

    Doen't matter really....

    Good Joke...

    Oct 14th, 2023 - 11:45 am - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Terence Hill

    Too little too late little .

    In a train there were an old lady, a very pretty young woman, an Argentine man and a Brazilian man.
    The train entered a very dark tunnel. A kiss was heard and after that the sound of a slap.
    The old lady thought:
    - I am proud of this young woman. One of the two youngsters kissed her and she slapped him hard.
    The young woman thought:
    - One of the two guys tried to kiss me, but ended up kissing the old lady and got slapped.
    The Argentine thought:
    - What bad luck! The Brazilian kissed the girl, and the one that got slapped was me.
    The Brazilian:
    - Ha ha, great! I kissed the back of my hand and slapped the face of the Argentine.

    Oct 14th, 2023 - 11:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Tænk

    Same as above...

    Oct 14th, 2023 - 12:00 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Terence Hill

    Such humorous characters show clearly how your neighbours view your most negative qualities. Which are so well known that they cause this form of levity.

    Oct 15th, 2023 - 02:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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