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Tierra del Fuego Governor warns Milei against possible drop in Malvinas claims
In a column published this week in Buenos Aires daily Clarín, Gustavo Melella, Governor of the Argentine Province of Tierra del Fuego which technically includes the South Atlantic Islands over which the South American country claims sovereignty, stressed that the future Libertarian administration of Javier Milei should not enact a U-turn in the state policies on that particular matter. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesIn other words: I have built my career lying to the electorate, please don’t confuse them with the truth.
Dec 08th, 2023 - 09:47 am - Link - Report abuse +4Claim ended in 1850
Dec 08th, 2023 - 10:32 am - Link - Report abuse +4On 15th May 1850 the Convention of Peace was ratified in Buenos Aires, Henry Southern signing for Britain and Felipe Arana for Argentina. Thereupon it came into force. Britain and Argentina both accepted that the agreement later called the ‘’Arana-Southern Treaty’’ was a full peace treaty, and they both accepted that peace treaties ended all disputes between their signatories. Both countries therefore agreed that the Convention of Peace ended any Argentine title to the Falkland Islands. Rosas made an attempt to include the Falklands question in the treaty but Southern quashed it by stating that ‘’All national differences are terminated by Solemn and Public Convention of Peace’’, which Rosas accepted and repeated. After the ratification of the Convention of Peace, Argentina’s protests against British possession of the Falkland Islands ceased. In the period 1833-49 there were regular protests and then silence for 38 years, from 1849-88.( Pascoe G, Falklands Facts and Fallacies p209).
Convention of Peace – End of Argentina’s Claim to the Falklands: https://www.academia.edu/109650905/Convention_of_Peace_End_of_Argentinas_Claim_to_the_Falklands
These so called stories are becoming so tedious, same repetitive jargon over and over again, the matter is settled, Argentine fanatics can whinge and cry till the cows come home, but nothing will change. the Falklands are here to stay,
Dec 08th, 2023 - 10:38 am - Link - Report abuse +2One day Argentina will eventually have to accept that there never was a gift of our country by Spain to them.
Dec 08th, 2023 - 11:20 am - Link - Report abuse +4Gustavo Melella is more to be pitied than censured, when he exposes his ignorance.
Dec 08th, 2023 - 10:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ignacio Benito Nuñez: Noticias históricas, políticas, y estadísticas de las Provincias Unidas del Río de La Plata, 1825
(English: Ignacio Benito Nuñez An account historical, political, and statistical, of The United Provinces of Rio de la Plata, 1825)
Which names every single square mile of possessions: Falkland Islands under whatever name one can imagine, is not included.
Report of David Jewett Feb 1st 1821 to Buenos Aires 1. February 1821, does not mention the Falkland Islands under whatever name one can imagine.
Messages to Congress were official addresses at the highest level, made each year at the ceremonial opening of the Argentine Congress.
They were the Argentine president's “State of the Union”.
None of them mentions a dispute over the Falkland Islands.
All of the Messages, dated 1810 to 1910 inclusive, were reprinted in full in Spanish in “Los Mensajes 1810-1910”, Buenos Aires 1910.
H. Mabragaña: “Los Mensajes - Historia del desenvolvimiento de la Nación Argentina redactada cronológicamente por sus gubernantes”
http://lanic.utexas.edu/larrp/pm/sample2/argentin/history/100001t.html
Los Mensajes, Volume III.
Mitre 1865: http://lanic.utexas.edu/larrp/pm/sample2/argentin/history/100001t.html - page 227
Paz 1866: http://lanic.utexas.edu/larrp/pm/sample2/argentin/history/100001t.html - page 238
Sarmiento 1869: http://lanic.utexas.edu/larrp/pm/sample2/argentin/history/100001t.html - page 280
Don Alberto - MercoPress only allows one link. So all yours now go to the same place.
Dec 08th, 2023 - 11:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The Nunez response to Rarish's request for information can be found here - https://falklandstimeline.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/an_account_historical_political_and_stat.pdf
I also have the Spanish language version which I'll post when an opportunity presents itself.
“One day Argentina will eventually have to accept.........” In response to that statement then the indoctrination of the Argentine people has been going on for a long time. A study of the time taken for the German people to renounce the Nazi party is revealing. Certainly living and working in Germany in the mid seventies provided an inkling of the lasting power of propaganda.
Dec 09th, 2023 - 10:37 am - Link - Report abuse +2I also worked on reconciliation in Kosovo and suggested to the Multi-national KFOR that it would be at least two generations before disparate communities stopped murdering each other on ethnic grounds. This conclusion was made from my observations and experiences in peace-keeping around the world for the UN. Argentina will be no different.
And of course we had the troubles in Northern Ireland. I suggest, that even a return to some form of practical common sense in the relationship between Argentina and the Falkland Islands at a Government level, will not convince the mass Argentine populace to follow suit.
It will take time. A long time.
Forty-one years on, I still feel for the Islanders and the constant harassment you receive from your bullying neighbour.
Thank goodness the UK Government still provides unwavering support to you all.
Thank you, for the opportunity.
Dec 09th, 2023 - 11:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0https://falklandstimeline.files.wordpress.com/2023/04/noticias-historicas-politicas-y-estadisticas-de-las-provincias-unidas-del-rio-de-la-plata.pdf
Time for a Falklander counter claim - to sovereignity over Ushuaia and eastern TdF
Dec 10th, 2023 - 05:04 am - Link - Report abuse +2Its time Argentina where made to make reparations for the damage and loss they caused. no more visits for them until this has been done, having said that . they dont have a pot to pee in,
Dec 10th, 2023 - 09:26 am - Link - Report abuse +2Steve Potts
Dec 11th, 2023 - 03:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As I understand it, the exchange of letters in 1888 was regarding a map. Argentinian diplomatic protest about the continued British occupation of the Falklands, which stopped in 1850, did not resume until 1939.
https://digitallibrary.un.org/record/720583?ln=en
‘The Republic of Argentina only returned to regular sovereignty protests
after the outbreak of the Second World War in 1939.’
So, for 89 years there was no dispute.
I guess Peron thought the British were going to lose the war.
Its always been about nationalist jingoistic politics, never about reality or truth. they have lied that many times they cant remember what they have said,
Dec 11th, 2023 - 03:45 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Commenting for this story is now closed.
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