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Venezuela and Guyana not to use force over Essequibo dispute

Friday, December 15th 2023 - 10:32 UTC
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Presidents Nicolás Maduro of Venezuela and Irfaan Ali of Guyana agreed Thursday in St. Vincent and the Grenadines not to threaten each other or use force in any circumstances. The 11-topic understanding was reached in the first round of talks brokered by host Prime Minister Ralph Gonsalves as president pro-tempore of the Community of Latin American and Caribbean States (Celac). Read full article

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  • Brasileiro

    If it were up to Western garbage, Venezuela and Guyana would already be covered in blood.

    Dec 15th, 2023 - 10:51 am - Link - Report abuse -3
  • Juan Cervantes

    what a stupid thing to say, grow up,

    Dec 15th, 2023 - 11:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Grow you up, Western garbage!

    Dec 15th, 2023 - 11:02 am - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Juan Cervantes

    Here you go again , spewing hate, you have lost the argument so resort to stupid comments. if the west is garbage then that includes Brazil and you, think before you post hate,

    Dec 15th, 2023 - 11:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    You started with hate in the previous article. I'm just responding in kind, Westerner.

    Dec 15th, 2023 - 11:10 am - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Juan Cervantes

    No Bras, you started it, attacking the USA when it is Venezuela who has caused this situation, lose the hate towards the western way of life you live.

    Dec 15th, 2023 - 11:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Westerner:

    “Bras, you are the one making threats, if Brazil does not stop Maduro then the USA will, nothing you can do about it, and no Brazil will not cosy up to Russia or China with all types of military agreements, stop with commie garbage , you do not represent Brazil. your Ruskie education lets you down badly.”


    You offend me and then lie!

    Dec 15th, 2023 - 11:17 am - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Juan Cervantes

    We will not allow, ? you lie and offend me,

    Dec 15th, 2023 - 11:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    Juan
    This is clearly not the real Bras, his English is too good and he spews way too much hate speech.

    It seems whoever runs the Bras franchise wasn’t impressed by his performance and have replaced him with a much more Toxic presenter.

    We can only hope that Bras I is OK and not starving on the streets of a Favela somewhere, or worse.

    Dec 15th, 2023 - 02:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Bud Spencer

    He does seem to have lost the plot does young Brassy, had a good laugh at them though,

    Dec 15th, 2023 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    The biggest fight right now is being fought within our Brazilian society.

    The Temporal Framework has been broken!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFk9hUSaBgo

    Dec 15th, 2023 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Terence Hill

    “My contention remains that a confluence of several political factors led to Venezuela claiming the Award was “null and void”, rather than any legal grounds supported by the posthumous publication in 1949 of an allegation by Severo Mallet-Prevost, Venezuela’s legal counsel, that the tribunal had acquiesced to a back-room deal between Russia and Great Britain. As such, Guyana correctly refused to enter into subsequent negotiations with Venezuela – either directly or through arbitrators as Colombia did – but after a long and tortuous process used the Geneva Agreement to have the Venezuelan-generated controversy over the status of the Arbitral Award, decided by the ICJ.”
    https://www.stabroeknews.com/2023/11/26/opinion/letters/my-contention-remains-that-confluence-of-political-factors-led-to-venezuela-claiming-1899-award-was-null-and-void/

    In 1899 the issue was settled, late claims are closed under the principles of the ”common-law legal systems, laches (/ˈlætʃɪz/ LAT-chiz /ˈleɪtʃɪz/; Law French: remissness, dilatoriness, from Old French laschesse) is a lack of diligence and activity in making a legal claim, or moving forward with legal enforcement of a right, particularly in regard to equity. This means that it is an unreasonable delay that can be viewed as prejudicing the opposing party. When asserted in litigation, it is an equity defense, that is, a defense to a claim for an equitable remedy.

    The person invoking laches is asserting that an opposing party has “slept on its rights”, and that, as a result of this delay, circumstances have changed (witnesses or evidence may have been lost or no longer available, etc.), such that it is no longer a just resolution to grant the plaintiff's claim. Laches is associated with the maxim of equity: “Equity aids the vigilant” - not those who sleep on their rights. Put another way, failure to assert one's rights in a timely manner can result in a claim being barred by laches.”
    https ://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laches_(equity)

    Dec 15th, 2023 - 05:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    “Grow you up, Western garbage!”

    Pretty funny, since if he really were Brazilian, he would realize he lives in the western hemisphere. Maybe this really is a Russian troll...

    Dec 16th, 2023 - 03:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Juan Cervantes

    Tried to explain to him numerous times that Brazil is part of the west, (free democratic country in the western hemisphere)

    Dec 16th, 2023 - 08:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    ‘The Temporal Framework has been broken!’

    Clearly been watching too much Star Trek.

    Dec 16th, 2023 - 01:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    You Westerners are disgusting. You live by murdering people, including many children, wherever you go.

    Where the Westerner steps, not even grass grows anymore.

    Dec 16th, 2023 - 09:46 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • imoyaro

    “Where the Westerner steps, not even grass grows anymore.”

    Oh, so that's why the Amazon rain forest is continuing to shrink...Brazilian Wanderlust?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuT3MvLJtLI

    Dec 17th, 2023 - 12:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    You must thank God that the forest is located in Brazil, because if it were in the West, it would certainly no longer exist.

    Westerners destroy and steal everything they see.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcnGsCUXu5Q

    Dec 17th, 2023 - 08:56 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • imoyaro

    Brasso, your record in Paraguay, killing 90% of the males of all ages, will always stand out to me. You can take your Russian agitprop and spew it on somebody else. Indeed, what I just mentioned shows you are a true Westerner by your own standards... ;)

    Dec 17th, 2023 - 09:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Brazilian territory was invaded by Paraguay 150 years ago. The war was a necessity.

    I don't remember Iraq or Libya invading the West.

    Westerners kill and steal out of pure sadism. Westerners are the true enemies of the human species.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfLH9Zpuduo&t=216

    Dec 17th, 2023 - 09:58 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • imoyaro

    So what Brasso, that's why it's okay to kill kids, right? Your emperor was a monster and his son in law was a true racist. It all depends on your point of view, does it not? Indeed I have one thing to say, and it is directed at you, ( I know you will recognize the slogan,) ”Смерть шпионам!”

    Dec 17th, 2023 - 10:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Como eu disse, os Ocidentais são verdadeiros criminosos. Só um criminoso faz uma ameaça velada a vida de outra pessoa.

    In the same style as the former Nazi president of Brazil who stated that a Good Bandit is a Dead Bandit.

    I wish you to have an honorable and happy life!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1DR82HzrIU

    Dec 17th, 2023 - 10:19 am - Link - Report abuse -2
  • imoyaro

    “In the same style as the former Nazi president of Brazil ...”

    Which one do you mean? It gets difficult to keep track...

    Dec 17th, 2023 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Generally, people prone to crime, whether ideological, political, material or social, have cognitive difficulties in recognizing their own mistakes or those of people they sympathize with.

    Your difficulty is explained.

    Dec 17th, 2023 - 10:33 am - Link - Report abuse -1
  • imoyaro

    Clearly you are describing yourself. Funny how that works...

    Dec 17th, 2023 - 10:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Cognition is everything, don't you think?

    I didn't show any difficulty in pointing out the former Brazilian president as a Nazi.

    Dec 17th, 2023 - 10:50 am - Link - Report abuse -2
  • imoyaro

    Which one , Brasso, you are a communist and several of them could be called one in your view.

    Dec 17th, 2023 - 10:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    What is your religion, if any? Obviously you are not a Christian. Jesus Christ was the first “communist” in history, you just need to feel the millionth spark of His love to know that sharing food, possessions, unity and love for others is the ideology of every egalitarian, which, perhaps, is why a problem of cognition, it doesn’t let you see.

    Even if you are not a Christian, I suggest you read the Sermon on the Mount given by Jesus Christ. It's in the Bible.

    Now I have to take care of my Brazil. Have a good life.

    Dec 17th, 2023 - 11:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    You crack me up Brasso, the hatred I see you spew on this site makes it clear that you are no Christian. Maybe you should try to live what you are spouting, but somehow I think you are just trying to make yourself look good, and it's a little late to do that...

    Dec 17th, 2023 - 11:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    I remember when Jesus Christ made the biggest barrage to expel the merchants from the Temple in Jerusalem. Do you think he would be hanged as a terrorist today?

    fui.....

    Dec 17th, 2023 - 11:16 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Bud Spencer

    Bras, you are so wrong, Jesus was a socialist not a communist, he believed in freedom and fairness, communists do not, they believe in nothing but control of everybody and everything, you do post a lot of hatred, that is certainly not a Christian act,, all people of every race creed and colour and religion have done bad things, including Brazil. it is freedom and democracy that allows you to post what you do, you can not do that in China, Russia, Cuba, Iran or North Korea,

    Dec 17th, 2023 - 12:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    Russia is an extremely peaceful country. Russia has never attacked another country, as far as I remember.

    Russia has always defended itself against Western Europe and the United States. Everything that was done was done for the security and existence of Russia itself.

    Russia has never attacked another country more than 1000 kilometers away. Russia preemptively attacked Ukraine, sister and neighbor of the Russian people, to avoid an even worse war with the installation of NATO missiles on its border very close to the center of the Russian State.

    Russia has warned on several occasions that it would not accept the expansion of NATO within the former Warsaw Pact because it would harm its own existence. The West has been warned countless times.

    In 1962 there was a crisis of warlike approach to the United States. In Cuba. The United States was willing to militarily invade Cuba to preserve its own security. So, the former USSR backed down and gave up on deploying any missile bases. Peace was made.

    Regarding Ukraine's accession to NATO, the same was not done. You are not superior militarily, economically or socially to the Russians, Chinese, Brazilians and Indians.

    The arrogance of the West is provoking revolt in every country in the world.

    The BRICS world would rather die than live under the yoke of the West.

    And don't think this is hate speech. It's the speech of someone who fights for freedom!

    Dec 17th, 2023 - 02:10 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • imoyaro

    “...as far as I remember.”

    That's just it Brasso, you aren't just young, you're a malevolent atheist communist. Ask the Hungarians or Czechs and Slovakians if Russia ever invaded them. Of course you don't care, you think the massacre of the people of Paraguay was a good thing. Quit spouting about Christianity, you think it's practitioners should be placed in camps and worked to death.

    Dec 17th, 2023 - 02:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Juan Cervantes

    You are one very brainwashed indoctrinated young man, who spouts nothing but hate and war mongering and nothing in the above post is remotely true, you need to see a shrink and get some professional help, stop making a fool of yourself on these threads with your communist crap, no nuclear weapons were ever being stationed in Ukraine, Ukraine gave them up and Russia agreed to recognise the borders of Ukraine, lie after lie after lie, the most stupid post you have ever done, Brazil is not a commie country it is a full paid up member of the WEST, countries that believe in democracy and freedom. India is more friendly with the west than Russia and is actually ripping Russia off with cheap oil, It is not for Russia to decide who joins NATO,

    Dec 17th, 2023 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    If you are talking about the Great Patriotic War, then I understand you with regard to Paraguay.

    If you're talking about the Napoleonic Wars, then I understand Admiral Nelson's patriotism.

    If you are talking about some imaginary invasion, I advise you to go to the doctor.

    Dec 17th, 2023 - 03:01 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • imoyaro

    Brasso, quit dissembling. You support murder, oppression and theft of other's property... in short, you're a crook.

    Dec 17th, 2023 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    And you are a Westerner who threatened me with death. And just to be safe, I will inform the security authorities in Brazil.

    I hope I don't get murdered by you. However, I need to make this public, in case it happens.

    Dec 17th, 2023 - 03:23 pm - Link - Report abuse -1
  • Terence Hill

    “Russia is an extremely peaceful country. Russia has never attacked another country”

    These are the countries that were invaded by Russia in the last 100 years.

    Ukraine

    Georgia

    Afghanistan

    Czechoslovakia

    Hungary

    Japan

    Germany

    Croatia

    Slovakia

    Bulgaria

    Jugoslavia

    Albania

    Romania

    Iran

    Finland

    Lithuania

    Latvia
    https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/aco0pm/countries_russiaussr_have_invaded/

    Dec 17th, 2023 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Juan Cervantes

    What is now called Russia came about from conquering other lands, your historical facts are 100 % wrong Bras,

    Dec 17th, 2023 - 03:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    Ersatz Bras
    Russia has invaded countries on its borders countless times. In 1939 they attacked, without any provocation, Finland, all three Baltic States and Poland.

    Then countries like Czechoslovakia, which they liberated from German occupation, they then occupied for the next 50 years, brutally suppressing any resistance.

    Russia also attacked, overran and then occupied all of central Asia, all the Stans. And don’t forget the invasion of Georgia and occupation of its northern territories.

    Russia’s attack on Ukraine was completely unprovoked and unnecessary, they were no threat to Russia. And now they are being bled white in a war they can only win if the West stops supplying Ukraine. Urrr, guess what?

    Russia no longer has a say in, never mind gets to decide, whether sovereign independent states on its border can join NATO or the EU. The world has changed and moved on, only Putin has not.

    These countries are not running towards the west, they are running away from Russia, of course everyone wants to be in NATO, so what happened to Georgia and Ukraine doesn’t happen to you, if you don’t do what the Kacap in the Kremlin says.

    NATO is most certainly militarily superior to Russia, Russia clearly cannot beat Ukraine where Ukraine gets only limited support from NATO.

    What do you think would happen if Russia was engaging NATO itself, Russia would not last a week.

    As part of Ukraine’s accession to NATO, an agreement with Russia not to station Nukes in the country could certainly have been reached, but the process never got that far before Russia invaded.

    Remember Ukraine voluntarily gave up all its Nukes in return for Russia guaranteeing the territorial integrity of its borders. A worthless promise from Putin.

    Good luck with the BRICS, hope it works out for you, it is of little consequence for us.

    Dec 17th, 2023 - 03:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Brasileiro

    The West better make peace with Moscow soon. The Russian lines are starting to move.

    Odessa!

    Dec 17th, 2023 - 03:40 pm - Link - Report abuse -2
  • Bud Spencer

    Bras please be serious the west are not at war with Russia, Russia invaded Ukraine, many many countries including countries like Turkey and Spain have supplied a small amount of weapons to Ukraine,, NATO would obliterate Russia, they have tried endless breakthroughs and got nowhere other than losing thousands of their own young men,

    Dec 17th, 2023 - 04:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • imoyaro

    “ I will inform the security authorities in Brazil.”

    Please do, and when they look into it, perhaps they will uncover the fact that you are a Russian spy... ;)

    Dec 17th, 2023 - 05:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Pugol-H

    Nah, wannabe spy, way too stupid to be the real thing.

    Dec 18th, 2023 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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