A meeting on Wednesday, in the framework of the Davos' World Economic Forum (WEF), between Foreign Secretary David Cameron with the President of Argentina Javier Milei and Argentine Foreign Minister Diana Mondino, was described by a Foreign Office spokesperson as “warm and cordial, setting out mutual support for a more constructive relationship between the UK and Argentina”. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rules24 hours out of date with this story Merco, nothing will change until the Falkland Islanders want it to, and that will be when they become an independent nation,
Jan 19th, 2024 - 12:10 pm - Link - Report abuse +5I, personally, would welcome the independence of the Islands. It would be a small country like many others in the world.
Jan 19th, 2024 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I believe that the independence of the Islands would put an end to the eternal conflict between the United Kingdom and South America.
Bras, there is no conflict between the UK and South America, all there is is a few thousand fanatical Argentines who want a land that they have never owned, the UK is good friends with all South America, with the exception of the crazy Argie Peronists and the lunatic Venezuelan government, both who have destroyed their once prosperous countries,
Jan 19th, 2024 - 01:35 pm - Link - Report abuse +5Just as Western Europe is a family, so is South America. Argentina's claim will always be a factor that will impede the development of full trade between the United Kingdom and America.
Jan 19th, 2024 - 01:47 pm - Link - Report abuse -4We Brazilians, or Peruvians, or Bolivians, etc., etc., do not see the United Kingdom as an enemy, or even a competitor. However, the unresolved issue of the Islands forces us to block and not develop many business possibilities.
We cannot adequately develop potential by turning a blind eye to the interests of a sister country.
Watch everything that is happening in Guyana. See how simpler it is to deal with a similar problem when the interests of the same family clash.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVpTp8IHdEg&list=FLmXPTu1f8AdGlizWNiASx2A&index=154
Bras, you personally may have interest in the Falklands but your government has zero interest, its the same with Chile. Uruguay and the others, Argentina is no your sister at all, in fact the Brazilians i have spoken to do not like Argentina,
Jan 19th, 2024 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse +4Juan, regarding the Brazilians with whom you spoke, even in paradise there are differences. In paradise and in the UK too. Is it or is not it?
Jan 19th, 2024 - 02:06 pm - Link - Report abuse -1The Brazilian government has not entered into conflict with any country in South America for 150 years. Do you want greater proof of interest and respect for the people who inhabit our common soil?
I am convinced that on the day the Islands become independent, Brazil, regardless of government, will support them.
Bras has a point.
Jan 19th, 2024 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse +1I don't believe this Cervantes is a Brit. However, he sees this matter believing in common places like the disliking of Argies from Brazillians.
Few times Governments have represented culturally the country's interests.
Apart from Think, I don't really like Argentines. They are the current football champions, that bothers me. They think that Maradora is better than Pelé. They think that snowy mountains make them more civilized than us Brazilians.
Jan 19th, 2024 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Maybe an atomic bomb would solve all this......lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4z5w4Izg3o&list=FLmXPTu1f8AdGlizWNiASx2A&index=161
Braz
Jan 19th, 2024 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse +4The Islanders can become independent whenever they wish, that is the whole point of self-determination.
However if you accept their right to be independent, by extension you accept their right not to be Argentinian.
Which won’t go down well with the Argys, who insist they have the right to colonise the Islands and the rest of the S. Atlantic/Antarctic regardless.
You’re contradicting yourself, either you accept their rights as all people have, or you don’t, as we say ‘you’ll get a sore arse trying to sit on the fence’.
And nothing is being done by S. America to ‘deal with’ the Essequibo issue, all the pressure is coming from outside.
Pale Maiden
I hate to ‘burst you bubble’ as we say, but you seldom hear a good word said about Argentinians from any other S. Americans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0RJl2-ViCo
Jan 19th, 2024 - 03:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As an old emperor of Brazil said:
INDEPENDENCE OR DEATH
The people of the Falklands have elected to remain ' ‘Associated with the UK’ in accordance with UNGA 2625 OF 1970. A legal right.
Jan 19th, 2024 - 03:31 pm - Link - Report abuse +3Falklands – Freely Determined Political Status (1 pg):
https://www.academia.edu/36555342/Falklands_-_Freely_Determined_Political_Status.pdf
This Cervantes Pale Maiden ?, i live in the real world, not this so called South American utopia where all the countries are brothers and sisters, they are clearly not, their is much dislike between many of the countries, and Argentina is the most disliked of all, this has been said by quite a few people that i have spoken to, not just Brazilians,
Jan 19th, 2024 - 03:35 pm - Link - Report abuse +2The WEF members have found a new poster child in Milei. He will further open Argentina to private oligarchs who will loot and pillage cheap labour cheap minerals etc.. I know this as a North American investor who will also profit from this.
Jan 20th, 2024 - 02:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Most LATAM countries would rather lose on mining and oil resources than share profits.
Jan 21st, 2024 - 12:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0People are not the same as countries. People get married and have children, people have families. Countries do not.
Jan 21st, 2024 - 01:58 pm - Link - Report abuse -3However, the collective of people turns a cluster of voices, thoughts, desires, needs, ideology, feelings and values into something that amplifies all of this without dividing anything. At the same time, they form something in which everyone has the same opportunities: THE NATIONAL STATE, the country, the homeland, whatever name you want to give it.
Some countries, generally those linked by a common history, linked by geographic proximity, linked by the same problems, linked by the same challenges, religion, culture, development, tend to organize themselves into blocs. Mercosur, EU, Eurasia Mainland (China and Russia).
It would be very difficult for a country called Brazil to subvert the natural order of things. Brazil can even influence, as I try to do in this letter, but it will never be able to change everything that has happened and will happen on this small planet.
Argentina is Brazil's sister!
You are very very wrong Brasileiro, Argentina is no ones sister, and is disliked throughout South America, by governments and your average citizen.
Jan 21st, 2024 - 02:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Bud
Jan 21st, 2024 - 03:07 pm - Link - Report abuse -2You may not like your sister, but that doesn't mean she will stop being your sister.
Bras
Jan 21st, 2024 - 05:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If Argentina was your sister then you shouldn’t indulge her fantasies around the islands. Families should be honest with one another and tell them when they are wrong.
The Malvinas myth has only ever hurt Argentine people, caused the death of hundreds of them and holds them back.
Supporting their corrupt government’s propaganda is not the behaviour of a family member.
Chile's support is very important. From Uruguay. From Brazil too.
Jan 21st, 2024 - 05:49 pm - Link - Report abuse -3Losing a child is something I would never want to happen to me.
Brasileiro, Argentina and Brazil are not brother and sister, France and Germany are not brother and sister. Portugal and Spain are not brother and sister, Italy and Greece are not brother and sister Egypt and Turkey are not brother and sister, they all have their own agendas and would never consider themselves to be brother and sister, they are friends and allies nothing more,
Jan 21st, 2024 - 07:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0One sure thing that would happen if we decided to become independent is that Argentina would attack us and drive us out without a doubt. They would never accept our independence. They don't accept our results of the 2013 referendum. They would never except the decision made by the ICJ if it went to that tribunal unless it was in their favour.
Jan 22nd, 2024 - 08:50 pm - Link - Report abuse +4Argentina has only one outcome in mind and that does not include the people of the Falkland islands. The moment they got their hands on our country the rest of South America will be their goal. They are possessed and think they own everything. They even control what their neighbours try to do.
That is not being sisterly or brotherly for that matter but down right aggressive.
To defend ourselves against this devious Country we have to stay united with Great Britain. Or if we become independent then we would have to employ a stronger countries protecting forces. In effect become a state controlled country just for protection.
We are much happier being a part of Great Britain, who looks after our military deterrent against Argentina who we know given the chance would once again try to occupy us.
These islands have never belonged to Argentina and unless they can with absolute accuracy prove otherwise they will never go to the ICJ because the evidence already shows they could never win.
South America will likely never be a stable country so long as Argentina controls their neighbours. Those Countries don't want to hear that but its true.
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