Bolivia and Paraguay formally sealed Monday in Buenos Aires the end of an armed conflict dating back 74 years and which is considered the bloodiest of the last century in South America with over 100.000 killed. Read full article
Well Nitro old chap, in 1833 Spain had not conceded the Falklands to Argentina nor ecognised Argentina's independence, so as Palmerston said to Moreno at the time, Britains dispute was with Spain not Argentina and Britain at no time conceded Argentina's right to act on Spains behalf.
He said ' the Government of the United Provinces could not reasonably have anticipated that the British Government would permit any other state to exercise a right as derived from Spain which Great Britain had denied to Spain itself'.'..... seems plain enough to me.
So from one pirate to another, not much chance of an exchange of territory then?
These islanders seem to be a little narrow-minded. They have 6 or 7 generations there. And??? Their grand-grand-grand parents were pirates, so they're pirates descendants. UK has nothing to do in south america. They must go away to europe. How could they say or think taht Argentina is expansionist when UK keep a colony 13.000 km away???. I ask kelpers to think carefully this: A TINY comunity needs necesarily to be in peace and to have a normal relationship with its bigger neighbours because if the TINY comunity doesn't have it. The TINY comunity life would be sad, boring and difficult as it is in Cuba. Cuba resisted a blockade for almost 50 years from its bigger neighbour or I would have to say fidel Castro resisted a blockade because the cubans life were and is today very miserable. Islanders have to think if they want the same. Bye
Jorge, dont spend time with kelpers... they havent got education acording XXI century... they have a colony mind & repeat the robotic phrase of self-determination dictated by the UK without knowing where are they living and the essence of the meaning of the same one in the international law.
Sorry, Nitrojuan, but Expat didn't mention the phrase self determination once in his reply to you.
It seems to me you always revert back to trashing self determination when you have run out of ideas. If anything that calls into question your own education in the former penal colony of Ushuaia, with its fantastic roads, factories and university...
And Jorge, where did your ancestors come from? Galicia? Genoa? Hanover? Why don't you go back to where your people came from and leave the poor Guaranís, Tehuelches, Tapietés and Mapuches in peace?
Argentina wants to deny the Falkland Islanders rights that Argentines have enjoyed in the past and continue to enjoy, simply because Argentina has a very weak territorial claim. And that is supposed to be fair?
Justin, Argentina does not deny islanders any of their rights, becouse self determination is a right that is not buyed, nor selled or gived, so islanders should be on its own sovereign territory to claim selfdetermination. Not in Argentine territory. And malvinas are an Argentine territory.
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Disclaimer & comment rulesI guess next we will see Argentina as an act of good faith returning the territory it took from Paraguay in the War of the Triple Alliance?
Apr 28th, 2009 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Yes Expat... When piraties as an act of good faith return Malvinas stolen to Argentina!
Apr 29th, 2009 - 04:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0Well Nitro old chap, in 1833 Spain had not conceded the Falklands to Argentina nor ecognised Argentina's independence, so as Palmerston said to Moreno at the time, Britains dispute was with Spain not Argentina and Britain at no time conceded Argentina's right to act on Spains behalf.
Apr 29th, 2009 - 05:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0He said ' the Government of the United Provinces could not reasonably have anticipated that the British Government would permit any other state to exercise a right as derived from Spain which Great Britain had denied to Spain itself'.'..... seems plain enough to me.
So from one pirate to another, not much chance of an exchange of territory then?
These islanders seem to be a little narrow-minded. They have 6 or 7 generations there. And??? Their grand-grand-grand parents were pirates, so they're pirates descendants. UK has nothing to do in south america. They must go away to europe. How could they say or think taht Argentina is expansionist when UK keep a colony 13.000 km away???. I ask kelpers to think carefully this: A TINY comunity needs necesarily to be in peace and to have a normal relationship with its bigger neighbours because if the TINY comunity doesn't have it. The TINY comunity life would be sad, boring and difficult as it is in Cuba. Cuba resisted a blockade for almost 50 years from its bigger neighbour or I would have to say fidel Castro resisted a blockade because the cubans life were and is today very miserable. Islanders have to think if they want the same. Bye
Apr 30th, 2009 - 03:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Jorge, dont spend time with kelpers... they havent got education acording XXI century... they have a colony mind & repeat the robotic phrase of self-determination dictated by the UK without knowing where are they living and the essence of the meaning of the same one in the international law.
Apr 30th, 2009 - 06:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0Sorry, Nitrojuan, but Expat didn't mention the phrase self determination once in his reply to you.
May 06th, 2009 - 06:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0It seems to me you always revert back to trashing self determination when you have run out of ideas. If anything that calls into question your own education in the former penal colony of Ushuaia, with its fantastic roads, factories and university...
And Jorge, where did your ancestors come from? Galicia? Genoa? Hanover? Why don't you go back to where your people came from and leave the poor Guaranís, Tehuelches, Tapietés and Mapuches in peace?
Justin, Again comparing malvinas with the natives in Argentina???. Have you run out of ideas???.
May 06th, 2009 - 11:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No Luis, comparing rights actually.
May 11th, 2009 - 07:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina wants to deny the Falkland Islanders rights that Argentines have enjoyed in the past and continue to enjoy, simply because Argentina has a very weak territorial claim. And that is supposed to be fair?
Justin, Argentina does not deny islanders any of their rights, becouse self determination is a right that is not buyed, nor selled or gived, so islanders should be on its own sovereign territory to claim selfdetermination. Not in Argentine territory. And malvinas are an Argentine territory.
May 12th, 2009 - 08:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0Commenting for this story is now closed.
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