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Dutch dredger operating in Tierra del Fuego bunkers in Falklands
An unusual visitor to the Falkland Islands last week was the Prins der Nederlanden, which anchored in Port William for the second time to receive fuel, reports the local Penguin News. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesMalvinas are part of Tierra del Fuego, Antarctica & South Atlantic Islands Province. The Capital: Ushuaia City.
Dec 29th, 2009 - 08:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Nitrojuan.
Dec 29th, 2009 - 12:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In our part of the world(Scandinavia/Denmark) we still call the islands Falkland Islands as we allways have done.
Why dont you try to be realistic????
If the rest of the worlds nations suddenly wanted to regain former borders what would happen??
Italy would want Roman Empire borders .France would like borders from the great time of Napoleon. Germany would like to have borders from 1938 and etc....
Fortunately UN realised ,that if such old claims could be requested and accepted, the whole world soon would be in fire and flames, and cleverly the refused. The claims were even from a time befor UN existed.
I know it is difficult.. but try to be realistic... We live in XXl century...
If you live in that part of the world why don't you get into your own bussinesses!
Dec 31st, 2009 - 08:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You have in europe too many things to be worried about instead of talking nonesenses in a mercosur and south atlantic site!
We know what we have to do. We are not children.
Hppy new year!!!!
Sorry, I mean “Happy new year!!!!”
Dec 31st, 2009 - 08:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“We are not children.”
Dec 31st, 2009 - 11:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No, you just behave like a spoilt child.
Calm down Justin. You seem to be a little nervous! Lol!
Jan 01st, 2010 - 01:15 am - Link - Report abuse 0Happy new year Justin. Enjoy your life!
To mr Jorge
Jan 01st, 2010 - 10:29 am - Link - Report abuse 0For your info my country is among top ten according to economi and welfare , so i am absolutely not worried. Believe it or not, we also once upon a time had colonial tendences (Greenland,Faroe Islands).
I am happy to tell you, that we now only have friendly connexions with those islands. They both have independence/selfgovernments and we do not interfer. They have own stamps. National teams in football/soccer
and other sports. Own flag etc. Right to use Universities/hospitals and other facilities in Denmark just like the Danes without extra costs.
By the way, Faroe islands are placed very close to Scotland (UK), but they do not claim they belong to them.Centuries ago they were Norwegian territory.
The reason i write here is, that i had relatives/friends in Argentina,. They visited me in the years 1982/83 and gave me a first hand explanation of what was happening. Mentioned hyperinflation unimployment, bad economy,corruption etc, and they very well understood what happened, and so did i. Even they had not visited me,I
was able to figure out, thas this war was wanted by the military government (dictatorship) to turn off the peoples resentment with the
present living-condition.
The victims were in the first hand the Falklanders/Kelpers and seco
ndly dead British and Argentinia soldiers.
LAST but not least , here in Europe we have the right and FREEDOM to
write to all papers/magasins or who else we want!!!
Do you wand CENSORSHIP Jorge???
Sorry, forgive me , I forgot to wish you a peaceful and happy new year!
Jan 01st, 2010 - 10:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0The word wand=want. Sorry, nobody is perfect...
Mr jorge
Jan 01st, 2010 - 11:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0I cant resist it .
I know the temperatures in central parts of Arg (B.A area)now are varying between 25-30 degrees.
Falkland 10-12 degrees
My place 12 degrees MINUS!!!! . I admit at present time i envy you!
What happens to that greenhouse-effect the climatologists talks so much about???
Well the hands on your clock, in your time-zone soon approaches midnight position and a new year begins
Therefore once more i wish you happy and peacefull new year!
MR. herold, you know nothing about where I live. I live in the south of argentina. It is cold most of the year. I don't claim the islands just because the proximity. I/we claim them because we were there governing them after spaniards left them. Spain had sovereignty over the islands. Britain always recognized that. British were also there under sovereignty of Spain. Argentina governed the island until 1833 when a bunch of pirates invaded them. We tried to recover them in 1982 and failed. British victory does not invalid our claim.
Jan 03rd, 2010 - 01:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0P.S. I don't care how your relationship is among your ex-colonies. Those are your businesses. We just want to recover them and that's a big issue between Argentina and UK. You are out of it. You wanna comment? that's ok, but read something first.
“I/we claim them because we were there governing them after spaniards left them.”
Jan 05th, 2010 - 05:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Everyone knows this is not true.
“Spain had sovereignty over the islands.”
It might of done, but that does not mean Argentina has any rights. Britain had a prior claim to the Spanish one anyway.
“Argentina governed the island until 1833 when a bunch of pirates invaded them.”
Nothing more than specious Argentine propaganda taught to every Argentine school kid.
“I don't care how your relationship is among your ex-colonies”
Yes you do. You constantly point out how the UK is still an aggressive colonial power despite the fact that in the modern age the UK has given independence to all of its former colonies who have asked for it.
You have a hard face to make such an ignorant comment. British has never had sovereignty over those islans, It was Spain. You stolen them. The propaganda here is yours. You always come out with the “propaganda” thing because you know we are right and the entire world is aware of that.
Jan 06th, 2010 - 12:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You don't have to give independence to Malvinas. You just have to return them to their owners, US.
Jorge, please read more carefully. I said Britain had a prior claim, and no we did not steal the islands from you because they never belonged to you in the first place (despite what you are told at school and by your government).
Jan 06th, 2010 - 06:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Just because the Buenos Aires Junta appointed a governor when the Spanish left does not mean Buenos Aires governed the islands. The King of Spain also calls himself “King of Jerusalem” but is he in control of Jerusalem?
I come out with the propaganda thing because I spent 5 years in the Argentine public school system so I know exactly what I am talking about. Not critical discussion was allowed when I as there and I bet that is the same now, only the “official” version was allowed. I was even taken in myself but eventually after reading up a lot and looking at ALL the facts, like many others have, I found that what was taught in Argentine schools all these years is FULL of holes.
How about just accept that posession is 9/10ths of the law. In our case, we've now had it for 177 years, so it's ours. Argentina, forget the claim! PS, happy newyear to all.
Jan 07th, 2010 - 03:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0CRAP! I can talk and think whatever I want in schools. You couldn't? No wonder why!
Jan 07th, 2010 - 04:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0Spain was the legal owner of the islands. You never owned them. You just invaded them like you did with the 25 % of the world.
What is being taught in british schools about malvinas?
Jan 07th, 2010 - 04:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0Jorge, Probably very little is taught in British Schools about the islands - the british are not so fanatically worked up over the issue. If anyhting what wouldbe taught is that the people of the Islands who have lived there for many generations have the same right to selfdetermination as do the millions who live in other nations - size and numbers does not matter - basic principles do.
Jan 07th, 2010 - 10:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0All this topic started because a european vessel called in here because refuelling is cheaper and more reliable than where they were!
I can see, the history's events you are not proud are not being taught. 99.9 % of british children don't know about the invasion of B.A. in 1806 and 1807. Of course, they neither know about 1833 events.
Jan 07th, 2010 - 02:29 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We could invade St Helena, expell the population, fill the place with argentines, wait 200 years and claim for self-determination! What do you think about this idea? It is what your ancestors did.
It was the second comment wich degenerated this topic.
Jorge, most British school children don't know about the BA invasions of the early 1800s because in the context of all British history they are irrelevant. Obviously that is a different matter in Argentina. Do you learn all about the British Kings and Queens? I don't think so...
Jan 07th, 2010 - 05:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Actually we didn't wait 200 years and then claim the Falklands. We claimed them from the start. Get over it.
Jorge,
Jan 07th, 2010 - 05:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0J.A.Roberts was referring to his education in ARGENTINA. Tell me, have you ever read anything other than the Argentine version?
Its also a fact that Argentina is a land filled with European immigrants who stole the land from its indigenous people and slaughtered millions in its own genocidal war of the desert. Just for a second apply your own ludicrous irredentist argument to Argentina, look up what irredentism means.
Even were your comments correct, which they are not, we're talking about 19th Century behaviour. This is now the 21st Century, that is no longer considered acceptable, whilst it may have been then. Its even more foolish to refer to the British Empire as reflective of the modern UK, the UK disassembled its Empire long ago granting independence and avoiding the costly wars of independence of so many other European Empires.
Talking of the behaviour of ancestors, do we also discuss the War of the Triple Alliance or the Conquest of the Desert or shall we focus on the more recent history of the Dirty War?
As J.A.Roberts notes very few British children know about the invasions of 1806 and 1807. Its a footnote in British history and not really that important. Even fewer know about the events of 1833, because the history of the Falklands is also a backwater.
I read british version for my own justin.
Jan 09th, 2010 - 06:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0Tell me, have you ever read anything other than the British version of world's events in UK schools?
I meant, I read british version on my own.
Jan 09th, 2010 - 06:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0Here we disscuss Malvinas, not Triple alliance war
Jan 09th, 2010 - 06:47 am - Link - Report abuse 0Jorge, that hasn't stopped you bringing up Iraq, the Chagossians etc.
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