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Tierra del Fuego prepares to implement Falklands’ maritime traffic decree

Saturday, February 20th 2010 - 04:41 UTC
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Argentine Tierra del Fuego Governor met this week with Coast Guard authorities in Ushuaia to coordinate the implementation of Decree 256 that regulates maritime traffic between Argentine ports and the Falklands/Malvinas Islands, and which could have an impact on the cruise industry. Read full article

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  • nitrojuan

    Our governor Fabiana Rios continues the line of the Federal Gov., no more cruises or ships to Malvinas Occupied. She is the real governor of Malvinas (that is part of Tierra del Fuego, Antarctica ans South Atlantic Islands Province). We hope (not so longer) the kelpers will come to Ushuaia to make their argentine documents.

    Feb 20th, 2010 - 05:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Hamster

    More of the usual Argentine ravings (Axel excepted).
    The last time Argentina tried this, they backed down when it became apparent the cruise ships were planning to give Argentina a miss.

    I'm sure the inhabitants of the islands would be interested to hear that secretly the 'real' governor of the Islands is one Fabiano Rios. In keeping with the logic applied by Nitrojuan, Jorge and other deluded Argentines on this site, I would like to inform them that I, Julius Pedro Hamster, am the 'real' President of Argentina.

    Feb 20th, 2010 - 06:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • 14thjune

    I don't get it, if The Falklands are part of Argentina ('”Under the Argentine constitution Tierra del Fuego province also includes Argentine Antarctica and the disputed South Atlantic Islands (Falklands, South Georgia and South Sandwich').”, why would the Argies want to charge ships to move around in their own country?

    Feb 20th, 2010 - 10:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • RealHamster

    you're only number two Hamster - I am the real Hamster and as such, the true President of Argentina, all those other places Christina (my pretender) claims - oh! and Australia too for good measure :)

    Feb 20th, 2010 - 11:03 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Justin Kuntz

    In the Falklands, the Governor is appointed in consultation with the FIG. Apparently Argentina would impose a Governor, just like they did back in 1982. Only just goes to show their colonial ambitions....

    Feb 20th, 2010 - 11:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • nitrojuan

    Yes of course... the rodent are around the world and dont want to leave the South Atlantic (the sun will be forever in The Brit Empire),, Justin our Governor is democraty elected by the citizen of Tierra del Fuego, in a free province where we have the oportunity of study in universities, decide our future and we recive the federal coparticipate of oil royalties, turisms all the year, electronic industries and all the benefits that a real state have, lamentably Malvinas will be another Cyprus, a military area that their inhabitant are used like toys to Keep the rest of a Brit Emperial Desire around the world and a bridge to a big water reserve as Antarctica. Ahhh.. and the excercice of virtual governors around the world begin from UK: Gov.Pirate Morgan = Gov.Hunt

    Feb 20th, 2010 - 02:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • alison

    'Toddmeister', I have never heard such rubbish! Argentines don't 'aspire' to toilet paper! They know it's beyond their capabilities. Instead, they hope to master the secret of fire, and this 'agriculture' thing they keep hearing about. Whenever they look at the rest of the world, they wonder how we manage to grow food to feed ourselves - incredible as it sounds, they can't even feed themselves properly, yet they live on some of the richest land in the world. What a bunch of retards, heh heh heh ;o)

    Feb 20th, 2010 - 03:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gdr

    #7 Chris !!
    “..mandating that their women all wear burkhas. becouse..............”
    burkha wearing had used by English Secret Services to mask their
    pale skin identitiy when the Taliban era in Afghanistan !
    a economic statistic : in England Republic ,women clothes sales are
    2.5 times more than men clothes whereas women and men population
    are almost equal there !!??
    by the way ,a question ! which of you more proudful ?? you .? Australians ?..Welsh ? Scots ? N.Irish ?....

    Feb 20th, 2010 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • globetrotter

    With decree 256 in place, have a guess how many cruzeros will call in at ports such as Puerto Madryn. In a good season, I used to count approx 21 ships filled with canadian pensioners, germans, french. The KFC clan :) has just shot its right foot off.

    Feb 20th, 2010 - 05:09 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rhaurie-Craughwell

    http://www.swedishclub.com/main.php?newsid=752&mcid=1&mid=109&pid=19

    Translation here Gentlemen, I wonder does that mean in event of another glorious liberation will the 3 leaky tugboats of the Argentine navy have to apply for prior permission in order to transport the 16 soldiers and 4 rifles to the Islands?

    And of course due to the airspace ban, doesn't that mean that mean the FAA aren't actually legally allowed to fly over the islands anymore?

    Thank you Agent Kirchener for your efforts in securing greater security for HM's realm!

    Feb 20th, 2010 - 05:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    Really? I don't recall anyone in the Falklands voting for her, its an imposition by Argentina. As empty a gesture as declaring the Falklands part of TDF.

    As usual you have to resort to the ridiculous straw man. No Argentine invasion, no British military presence. Britain has no desire to maintain a garrison in the South Atlantic, it never did till Argentina invaded.

    Feb 20th, 2010 - 07:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rhaurie-Craughwell

    Kinda blows a whole in the whole democratic mandate thing doesn't it Justin?

    surely there is a case here for the Islanders to go to the Hague? It might be a remarkably interesting case, since the islanders are Argentine citizens and are therefore not covered by Argentine law in territory not covered by Argentine law, does Argentina have a right to include the islands on it's constitution, and do elected officials have a right to declare themselves to have a mandate to rule over peoples who never approved their election?

    I think to any islanders here this could be an interesting fight back?

    Feb 20th, 2010 - 07:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rhaurie-Craughwell

    1. Nitro Juan,

    how can the islanders go to Ushia to get their docuements? you just forbid flights and shipping between the two silly!

    Feb 20th, 2010 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • nitrojuan

    Large Name, More Easy in my next trip to Stanley, 13MARCH via Rio Gallegos , i will give to the islanders some forms to complete and will bring its to Ushuaia..

    Feb 20th, 2010 - 07:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Ivor Lott

    The Argentina authorities have always insisted that no visa is required between Argentina and the Falklands because “you are still in Argentina” (though didn't always work in practice). These new requirements only go the proove the lie to that; the cruise ships need to go through horrendous bureaucratic hurdles.<br />
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    This will hit the local economies in Argentina when there is an inevitable re-routing of cruises to other countries. The Falkland Islanders certainly won't give up their sovereignty, even if the cruise trade decreases.

    Feb 20th, 2010 - 07:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • nitrojuan

    Ivor.. jajaja .. the big cruises dont need to stop Malvinas,,, I work with them in Ushuaia,,, the schedule could be modify without move the demand. This travelers request Buenos Aires, Pto Madryn, Ushuaia (the gate to Antarctica) , Pta Arenas (maybe), Valparaiso, Rio, but no matter if avoid Stanley.

    Feb 20th, 2010 - 08:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    No they don't need to stop in UShuaia either, especially if you make it awkward for them as you're doing.

    Feb 21st, 2010 - 10:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • gini

    Kelpers, live in England!<br />
    Return the malvinas!

    Feb 22nd, 2010 - 01:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • Rodrigo

    WOW! I can not believe that UK still in Gibraltar and Malvinas! Hello we're in 21 century!!! Time is changed but they still with the same behavoir! I hope if international low exist, and UN, G7, G20, La Haya Court,... are REAL, the fuckin' pirates of the world come back to England and leave the world in peace!
    MALVINAS ARE ARGIE!

    Feb 22nd, 2010 - 02:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • J.A. Roberts

    Rodrigo, what you don't seem to get is that there are people who have lived on the Falklands and Gibraltar for many generations and those people have chosen to remain British. Can't you get that into your head? Just like the people of St Pierre and Miquelon and the people of Guyane have decided to remain French. Get over it!

    Feb 22nd, 2010 - 08:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    What I can't believe is that in the 21st Century, two supposedly democratic nations are pursuing irridentist sovereignty claims dating from the 18th and 19th Centuries, in both cases revived under fascist regimes.

    Feb 22nd, 2010 - 09:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • hamster

    Pehuen, you cheeky little chap you. Although I am the real president of all of Argentina, I forgive you but my IRREVOCABLE AND UNRENOUNCEABLE claim to the presidency of Argentina demands your immediate respect (I even put it in my constitution which means it must be true - see www.hamstersconstitution@therealpresidentofargentina.com). You have nothing to fear from me as, unlike past false and charlatan leaders of Argentina, my preferred method of government doesn't involve dropping citizens that don't agree with me out of planes without a parachute. If you don't like the fact that I'm your rightful president you can always leave Argentina (and go back to Europe).<br />
    <br />
    Moving on to far more important matters. Dear Real Hamster, piratical imperialistic usurper and pretender that you are, how can you be the real president of Argentina when it most clearly is me.<br />
    <br />
    I expect that you are not even a real hamster. <br />
    <br />
    On what basis can you possibly have a claim that is stronger than mine? My claim is IRREVOCABLE AND UNRENOUNCEABLE and following the logic used by many Argentines on this site, the use of capital letters means that what I write MUST BE TRUE. See also the many EXCELLENT COMMENTS BELOW FROM BBC.CO.UK (i tried bbc.com as quoted by Nitrojuan but could find no such site)<br />
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    'Julius Pedro Hamster is the only true president of Argentina. Mrs K and the real hamster are just pretenders who should bugger off back to Spain where they came from all those hundreds of years ago. I was taught this at school so it MUST BE TRUE'<br />
    Anonymouse - BA, Argentina<br />
    <br />
    'JP Hamster's claim is totally and completely legitimate. Mrs K and the Argentinian government and its people should bugger off back to Europe where they came from all those years ago. Imperialist dogs.'<br />
    H Chavez, Venezuela.<br />
    <br />
    'Julius seems very nice and he can't be much worse than the other lot who came and settled here a couple of hundred years ago and then murdered all my people.'<br />
    last remaining indigenous indian, hiding out in some shanty town somewhere in Argentina.<br />
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    Feb 22nd, 2010 - 09:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • nitrojuan

    Well the endless discution of “the egg or the hen” . Solution please!

    Feb 22nd, 2010 - 10:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    I would imagine that it involves immature stunts like waving flags and hacking websites. How about allowing the islands independence with Argentina and Great Britain acting as guarantors. We can both grant independence and that way Argentina can save face.

    Feb 22nd, 2010 - 10:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jorge

    Julius Pedro Hamster, you are the president of fucked-up British country of pirates!

    .....“In the Falklands, the Governor is appointed in consultation with the FIG. Apparently Argentina would impose a Governor, just like they did back in 1982. Only just goes to show their colonial ambitions....”....

    Until UK sit down to negotiate, we'll consider Fabiana Ríos the governor of those islands.

    Feb 22nd, 2010 - 01:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    Do what you like, it doesn't matter, so, yeah, whatever.

    Feb 22nd, 2010 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • pedro

    Porque no se dejan de boludeces y comenten cosas serias y no todo tiene que ser guerra? ” dejen que los políticos se ocupen de su trabajo y los milicos de la defensa, Siguen cargando pólvora al mechero al pedo.tiempo al tiempo,las malvinas son y siempre serán nuestra!!!!

    Feb 22nd, 2010 - 04:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    There is always a place for the angry young man, with a fist in the air and head in the sand.

    Feb 22nd, 2010 - 04:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jorge

    The poetisian have spoken!

    Feb 22nd, 2010 - 05:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • M

    It is wonderful to see how delusional the Argentines are...appointing a governor for a place that isnt theirs, the place doesnt want to be Argentian and the position has no power. It is a little pathetic. And nitrojuan, I would love to meet you, and I can explain to you in my native language, english, that I am Britsh, as we sit down to have fish and chips, and I will pay for my lunch in pounds sterling. Then we can talk about English football, and how out of depth Maradona is, and how funny he looks being so overweight. It's a date!

    Feb 22nd, 2010 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • nitrojuan

    M (mike?) i love riddles. You have not to take the work of sit with me and explain in your the facto language anything, and i dont like football, i prefer hockey or rugby (two sports). I know how do you think about us, i have the ilusion of find a real islander (no brit nationalism) who want to talk a someone good solution without resentment. I could practice my english with a lot of brit tourists in Ushuaia, with the crew on board, when i fly to Sao Paulo with British Airways, with american inmigrant friends whose choose living in BA after the North Crisis..

    Feb 22nd, 2010 - 07:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • jorge

    M is from mer...

    Feb 22nd, 2010 - 07:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • alex

    #14<br />
    Splendid idea Nitrojuan ! However, to be sure they will receive the forms and use them, I suggest the formulas ought to be print on toiletpaper.<br />
    Then there should be a fair chance they will use them.o:)

    Feb 25th, 2010 - 02:28 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • nitrojuan

    Good Idea Alex, the same destination of the “virtual” Malvinas Constitucion , when we recover the islands again....

    Feb 25th, 2010 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • nitrojuan

    islander you have to change your “wishes” with “ reality ”, the problem is your people need GOOD & REAL FUNDAMAMENTS to do that, lamentably you dont have it.
    I want to give an offer to your people (before Arg. close the only link with the continent) , but i feel nobody is prepared to it...

    Feb 25th, 2010 - 03:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • patrick20210

    “The right to self-determination of the islanders – long the obstacle to any deal with Argentina – has to be qualified. Intransigent in their response to the Ridley negotiations and backed by neo-imperialist rightwingers in the House of Commons, the islanders demanded and got their rescue by the 1982 task force and extravagant support ever since. They have rebuffed all efforts by later Buenos Aires mediators to re-establish contact” <br />
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    Simon Jenkins<br />
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    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/feb/25/falklands-britains-expensive-nuisance<br />

    Feb 27th, 2010 - 08:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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