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Falklands’ on shore Loligo containerisation to improve quality and create jobs
For the first time a whole season’s catch of Loligo Squid will be containerised in the Falkland Islands, an experiment set to improve the product quality and meet world export demands plus generating on-value added activities in the Islands. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rules“ ....So far also, he said the fishing and oil industries seemed to be working hand in glove to the benefit of all........ With more than 60 vessels so far having called into Stanley to collect licences to fish for illex squid, early estimates of a likely take-up of around 40 have already been exceeded, said Mr Barton ...... ”
Mar 16th, 2010 - 02:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0It's good to know that life on the Falklands continues largely unaffected by their neighbour.
Hoytred las malvina no son vecinas de argentina, las Islas Malvinas son parte de la Argentina pertenecen a Argentina.
Mar 16th, 2010 - 03:53 am - Link - Report abuse 0Y los recursos que estan explotando son recursos que roban a la Argentina.
Jorge - Came across this from Mercopress in 2008. Strangely enough it received no comments - ”Argentina did not inherit a unitary claim to the Falkland Islands from Spain as it claims. (Modern Popes and the Vatican Foreign Office attach no validity now to these ancient Papal declarations and say the issue is for modern academics to work out.). The British researchers say these Papal pronouncements were made by “the most corrupt and immoral Pope in history” who was also a Spaniard. The researchers' conclusions say that British and Spanish Treaties of the 17th and 18th century do not prohibit British possession of the Falkland Islands and that a 1825 Anglo-Argentine Treaty of Friendship and Navigation does not support Argentina's sovereignty claim as Argentina incorrectly asserts. The researchers reject Argentine arguments that Britain expelled an Argentine population from the Falklands in 1833: they continued to live there. Argentina dropped its sovereignty claim in 1850. Argentina dropped its claim to the Falkland Islands by ratifying the 1850 Convention of Settlement. Failure to mention this is a “gross distortion of history” by Argentina. Argentina did not mention the Falklands to Britain for the next 34 years nor did any message to the Argentine Congress refer to it for 91 years until 1941. The Argentines also published thousands of copies of a map which indicated that the Falklands were not Argentine territory. The Argentine argument that the Falkland Islanders have no claim to self-determination – a principle enshrined in the United Nations Charter – is “absurd. They have the same right to self-determination as any other immigrant people in the New World. The Argentines have never had a valid claim to South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands. These islands were claimed by Argentina only after the Second World War after decades of acquiescence and acknowledgment of British sovereignty”
Mar 16th, 2010 - 04:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0Contary to your opinion, I think you'll find that there are British !
@Hoytred<br />
Mar 16th, 2010 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I don't care what do you think. The problem is the UN recognized in 1965 a sovereignty problem between Arg and Uk, and If the malvinas were british as you say, the UN had never put these issue in the multilateral agenda.<br />
I would like to know what would happen if all the islanders will leave the islands, but not for free, if ARG would pay 1MM Euro for each islander for leave the islands. And then what will happen with the autodetermination? what will be the new excuse for the british?
in response to willy argentina has already tried to bribe the islanders, and for some strange reason they refused. it may be your last 30 years economic terrorism and threats, it may be your invasion and failed attempt at annexing them, it may even be argentina's repeated insistence that the islanders are subhuman “kelpers” undeserving of any human rights and should either submit to argentina's colonialist subjugation or allow themselves to be ethnically cleansed from the islands they have lived on for centuries. <br />
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and btw for any Argentine moron who tries to argue that argentina owns the islands don't bother. Britain first claimed and established the first colony there in 1765. later Luis Vernet asked permission from the British to establish a colony, we accepted however he then went against the conditions of the deal so we removed him and sent the Argentine governor back to argentina in 1833. the rest of the colonists were allowed to stay. this is argentina's only historical link with the islands. the Argentine colonists were very small in population with about 29 residents. a tiny number left but most stayed on the islands. <br />
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after that the population gradually began to increase with some people coming from south america and others coming from the British isles. by 1851 there were about 20 Argentine gauchos (up from 12 in 1833) and many other south americans and Argentines. from that point onwards they intermarried with other residents of the islands. thus the islanders are technically the descendants of the Argentine colony there. <br />
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by argentina's own claims that this colony was legitimate we can see that the islanders by argentina's standards definitely have the right to self determination as they are descended from those same settlers which argentina claims were legitimate. the sources for this include Charles Darwin's diary, Lieutenant B.J. Sullivans survey of the Falklands, and the journal of Commodore Augusto Lasserre<br />
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geographically the falklands are 500 miles away from the Argentine mainland, and far outside of argentina's territorial waters. and geographical proximity has absolutely no standing on national sovereignty in international law. in fact there is an island owned by Denmark (faroh) just north of Scotland and far closer to the UK than the falklands are to argentina and we have never taken issue with this.<br />
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the most important factor remains the fact that the population (who have lived there longer than most Argentines can traced their roots in argentina) all wish to remain part of the UK, and over 86% of them oppose any negotiation of sovereignty, let alone becoming part of argentina, and in international law, self determination comes before any other factor due to the fact that the islanders are the only ones who are directly affected by their sovereignty<br />
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and the Argentine comments on this site pretty much epitomizes why argentina will never get the islands, and why it doesn't deserve them.<br />
Argentines are brainwashed their entire lives about the islands so their leaders may keep hold of the “malvinas” card which serves as a quick and easy vote winner. <br />
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now despite you having the whole Internet, and having the ability to look at the island's history without the taint of government inspired propaganda you refuse to do so. and despite many of you claiming to oppose the war and the needless suffering it caused, you continue to spew the same nationalistic delusions which led to the war in the first place<br />
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argentina has got neither the military, the economy, or any position of geopolitical power to force the UK to stop defending it's citizens on the islands, and Argentina's refusal to pursue the matter in the ICJ just show how weak it's claim is. <br />
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the best thing to do is leave the islands and the islanders alone, stop whining, and grow up
Can you prove I sought permision from the british embassy to go to malvinas?<br />
Mar 16th, 2010 - 11:15 pm - Link - Report abuse 0no wiki links please!
Luis Vernet - see Getting it Right: the real history of the Falklands/Malvinas
Mar 17th, 2010 - 02:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0“ ... Vernet must have known about the British claim to the Falkland Islands. He submitted his land grant to the British Consulate in Buenos Aires, where Vice-Consul Charles Griffiths countersigned it
on 30 January 1828 ...”
“.... Parish asked to see Vernet and, on 25 April 1829, sent a despatch to the British Foreign Secretary, Lord Aberdeen, reporting his conversation with Vernet – Parish said, ”He would, I believe, be very happy if His Majesty’s Government would take his settlement under their protection: – He sails for the Falklands with his family in about a month, and intends to pass he says some years there in promoting the objects of this colony“...
” .. It should be noted here too that the government in Buenos Aires at that time was far from legal...”
Willy, you are quite right. What I think is unimportant. What you think is unimportant. What 3000 islanders think is VERY important. Currently they think that they want to be British, so British they are.
Mar 17th, 2010 - 02:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0Interesting question about the unlikely situation of all the islanders leaving. Obviously the British claim would remain but without the additional reinforcement of any population's right to self-determination. Under such circumstances I suppose the UK would have to consider what was in its bset interests, as all nations would do.
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Mar 17th, 2010 - 12:39 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Luis Vernet - see Getting it Right: the real history of the Falklands/Malvinas
- That link is not proof of anything. How can you prove that?
How? How? How? How? How? Evidence, little man!
Jorge ! - check out the references .... little man!
Mar 17th, 2010 - 01:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Here you go Jorge, in Spanish, the bits about Vernet in section 13 on page 15. You might like to read the whole document but I bet you don't...
Mar 17th, 2010 - 01:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.falklandshistory.org/spanish4.pdf
#Finntorp<br /><br />
Mar 17th, 2010 - 09:40 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You are quite right about faroe (not Faroh) islands nw of Scotland.<br /><br />
The local people spell it Forayr which means sheep`s islands.<br /><br />
Like Falkland Isl. they too have own govt. ,flag,stamps etc.<br /><br />
Like the falklanders have the right to vote for total separation<br /><br />
from UK. people in Faroe Isl. can vote for seperation from Denmark, and if so they will get it. No doubt!<br /><br />
Foreign policy and defense questions are only negotiated subjects in common.<br /><br />
However there is one very significant difference. <br /><br />
Faroe Isl. don´t have any aggressive and colonialistic neighbours!!!<br /><br />
Dane.
I've raed those links a while ago. I presented you several assertions made by british officials recognizing that they were not sure about UK sovereignty (as you like to say nowadays) and the only thing you said was “”who cares!!!“”.
Mar 18th, 2010 - 10:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0www.malvinense.com.ar
Enjoy!!!!
The view of a couple of civil servants many decades ago are unimportant. As our Prime Minister has told you only recently, we are confident about our sovereignty and there is nothing to discuss. Reality is staring you in the face and yet you remain in denial .... what a strange people!
Mar 19th, 2010 - 12:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Jorge - what a fascinating magazine ....... so much utter rubbish all in one plaze - amazing !! Still, if it gives you something to do :-)
Mar 19th, 2010 - 12:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0Yes, Jorge, they were just opinions. As I pointed out then you seem to have a really hard time distinguishing between opinions and facts...
Mar 19th, 2010 - 09:31 am - Link - Report abuse 0Jorge the opinion expressed by a few civil servants decades ago is hardly ground shattering stuff.
Mar 19th, 2010 - 10:13 am - Link - Report abuse 0I notice that that website of absolute gobble togder, is the same one claiming that the HMS invincible was sunk and that in fact Britain somehow lost all it's harriers....etc etc...
Come back with something a lot more substantive than overally patriotic webpages which are more than economical with factual history.
jajajaja what sort of strange “people” are you????
Mar 19th, 2010 - 03:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0British officials said it. End of story.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB0y-5XsxlU
Mar 19th, 2010 - 03:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Enjoy the truth!
Yes, Jorge, the opinions of British officials carefully selected by you. Like I said, you seem to struggle differentiating between opinion and fact...
Mar 19th, 2010 - 04:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I notice the same webpage failed to mention the hundreds of Civil servants who said that they had no doubt about our sovereignty!
Mar 19th, 2010 - 04:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The only fact is that you are there due to our lack of force.
Mar 19th, 2010 - 04:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Youtube, that archive of factual information!
Mar 19th, 2010 - 04:50 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I love how it gives a long list of countries we have granted independence, the typical but bizarre “It's closer” arguement and a smattering of other distortions of fact, But the real corker was this one:
“the subjection of peoples to alien subjugation, domination and exploitation constitutes a denial of fundamental human rights, is contrary to the United Nations Charter... they might enjoy complete freedom and independence”
-isn't that what Argentina wishes to subject the Islanders to? A relationship of Alien domination, exploitation (through taxes, plundering of their expertly managed fish stocks, and other resources?) and a denial of fundamental human rights (denial of self determination, and relegation to department status with a govenor from Argentina who has no mandate to rule them?)
-Quite, perhaps Argentina better reassess it's commitment to the UN charter, since it clearly refuses to abide by some of it's most sacred and hallowed principles, like the universal application of self determination, that the people are sovereign, that no one has the right to dictate peoples futures without their democratic consent.
we there in before 1982, even with “our” lack of force, took you quite along time to muster up the courage to take on 88 Marines in the Falklands and 22 in South Georgia, the latter of which made a fine mess of your invasion plans.
Mar 19th, 2010 - 04:53 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I see someone has been hurt by truth!!!! (see above)
Mar 19th, 2010 - 04:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jorge! - you wouldn't know the truth if it smacked you in the face !
Mar 20th, 2010 - 12:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0........“Jorge! - you wouldn't know the truth if it smacked you in the face !”..........
Mar 20th, 2010 - 02:05 pm - Link - Report abuse 0- Can you STFU just for a day?
You know ... I don't think I can :-)
Mar 24th, 2010 - 03:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Commenting for this story is now closed.
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