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Falklands politicians an important resource says British Government official
“AN important international diplomatic resource” is how Foreign and Commonwealth (FCO) official Colin Roberts visiting the Falkland Islands describes Members of the Legislative Assembly (MLAs). Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesWhile I doubt that the controversial, partisan and mostly ineffective Decolonization Committee will be the least bit use in promoting the islander's rights to self determination, I suppose their attendance at Decolonization meeting will at least demonstrate the tenacious will of the people on the islands.
Mar 25th, 2010 - 02:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And a public display of political support by the British Government is reassuring.
1831 :: US warships destroy the settlements...
Mar 25th, 2010 - 03:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 01832 :: Argentina sends another Governor who is killed in mutiny..
1833 :: British Forces return to islands to grab...
1831 :: US warships arrest Argentine pirates ...
Mar 26th, 2010 - 12:19 am - Link - Report abuse 01832 :: Nothing of importance happens ...
1833 :: British Forces return to the islands and reassert sovereignty ...
Found this - “Among the international community, with the notable exception of Argentina and some of its regional allies, there is no argument that these islands are possessions of the U.K. The Falklands are British by choice, and have been since 1833, and of the roughly 3,000 inhabitants, nearly all are British by birth or descent. They are self-governing and largely self-financing, that is of course except for defence costs which paradoxically, are essential in order to protect the population from its bellicose neighbour on the South American mainland.
Mar 26th, 2010 - 12:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0The sabre-rattling on behalf of the Argentine government is ridiculous and laughable, to say nothing of being factually dishonest, and economically expedient. But perhaps the most telling barometer of international opinion and precedence is that the United Nations does not accept the legitimacy of the sovereignty claims made by the Argentine government. The American people understand the importance that the British people attach to maintaining British sovereignty over the Falklands” - Congressman John Campbell is a Member of United States House of Representatives
So much for supposed US support, and that of the UN too.....
The anti-argentine Lisa Watson is back!
Mar 26th, 2010 - 03:39 am - Link - Report abuse 0She has an idiot follower called Hoytred.
..........“But perhaps the most telling barometer of international opinion and precedence is that the United Nations does not accept the legitimacy of the sovereignty claims made by the Argentine government.”.........
Mar 26th, 2010 - 03:50 am - Link - Report abuse 0- 18 June 2009
Special committee on decolonization unanimously approves text calling for direct negotiations over falkland Islands (malvinas)
Members Hear from Foreign Minister of Argentina,
Petitioners, Including Members of Territorial Legislative Assembly
Having heard a statement by the Foreign Minister of Argentina in addition to petitioners from the Falkland Islands (Malvinas), the Special Committee on Decolonization recommended today that the General Assembly call for DIRECT NEGOTIATIONS between ARGENTINA and the UNITED KINGDOM over THAT (Malvinas, lol) Non-Self-Governing Territories.
Introducing the draft resolution, which the Special Committee approved without a vote, Chile’s representative said the text reflected the main elements of the doctrine formulated by the United Nations over the years with regard to the question of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas). It acknowledged the “special and particular COLONIAL SITUATION”, which differed from other colonial situations owing to the EXISTENCE of a SOVEREIGNTY DISPUTE between ARGENTINA and the UNITED KINGDOM. The text also specified that the ONLY WAY to put an end to the question was through a NEGOTIATED SETTLEMENT of the dispute between the Governments of the two countries.
LOL. THIS IS WHAT UN SAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”·$%&&//(())===?¿
No Jorge, that was what the Decolonizarion Committee recommended, and what has actually become of the recommendation ?
Mar 26th, 2010 - 06:01 am - Link - Report abuse 0As I've stated, the Decolonisation Committee is controversial, not least because of its bias against the old powers. A toothless tiger that has achieved very little in the last 10 years!
As for a 'sovereignty dispute' ... only the Argentines have that! The British have no dispute, everything is clear cut ..... the Falkland Islands are British. LOL
.......“As I've stated, the Decolonisation Committee is controversial, not least because of its bias against the old powers.”.......
Mar 26th, 2010 - 08:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0- Hoytred, Everything that doesn't agree with your ideas is controversial and debatable for the british?????
.........“As for a 'sovereignty dispute' ... only the Argentines have that!”........
- A dispute has at least 2 part. Are you a retard?!?!?! Is it difficult to understad?!?!
No Jorge, when you've bored everyone so much that people just ignore you, you can scream in the wilderness and no one hears you.
Mar 26th, 2010 - 08:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 01764 :: first French settlements...
Mar 26th, 2010 - 09:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 01766 :: first British settlements..Spain's requisition of French Colony...
1767 :: Spanish requisition of French Colony under BuenosAires Admin..
1770 :: Spain expel British Colony ...
1771 :: Anglo-Spanish treaty to return British Colony...
1774 :: British withdrawal from Colony...
1776 :: British leave plaque to assert claim on Colony...
1811 :: Spanish withdrawal from Colony...
1816 :: Unt.Prvnc.of South.America leaves from Spain...
1820 :: flag of Argentina raised on islands...
1828 :: Argentine settlement and colony founded...
1831 :: US warships destroy the settlements...
1832 :: Argentina sends another Governor who killed in mutiny...
1833 :: British Forces return to islands to grab...
Ed - close ... but try ...
Mar 27th, 2010 - 12:16 am - Link - Report abuse 01690 – the waterway between the two islands is named ‘Falkland Sound’ by Captain John Strong from the ship Welfare.
1712 – the name ‘Falkland Islands’ is used in a publication describing the Welfare’s journey.
1716 – a French map refers to the islands as ‘Les Isles Nouvelles’.
1722 – a new French map refers to the islands as ‘Les Iles Malouines’.
1764 – France founds a settlement on the Falkland Islands at Port Loius but makes no formal claim.
1765 - Britain claims the Falkland Islands and founds a settlement at Port Egmont.
1767 – Spain takes over Port Louis and compensates the French [buys it?]
1770 – Spain discovers the Port Egmont settlement, attacks it and ejects the settlers.
1771 - England & Spain come close to war. Spain backs down and the British return to Port Egmont . Spain also maintains the settlement at Port Louis (renamed Puerto Soledad). Neither side relinquishes their sovereignty claims. [Samuel Johnson treatise]
1776 – Britain evacuates the islands due to the political unrest in North America, leaving behind a lead plaque clearly stating its claim to the islands. [BUT, while there is no consistent British settlement there are occasional settlements, mainly by whalers and sealers]
1775 – Britain claims sovereignty over South Georgia following the first landing by Captain James Cook.
1790 – Nootka Sound Convention No.1 (The Treaty of San Lorenzo) signed by Britain and Spain. The Treaty applied to North and South America and its ‘adjacent’ islands. [This places limitations on settlements but also includes a clause voiding the limitations if another ‘power’ builds any settlement. Some suggestion that Spain uses Nootka Sound to reinterpret the 1771 agreement ??]
1795 – Nootka Sound Convention repudiated by Spain (?)
1805 – Spanish maps start to refer to the islands as the ‘Malvinas’.
1810 – Buenos Aries forms its own ‘junta’ to pursue independence from Spain.
1811 – Spain evacuates the islands due to unrest
unrest in its colonies. It also leaves a plaque stating its claim.
Mar 27th, 2010 - 12:17 am - Link - Report abuse 01816 – United Provinces of South America formally declares independence from Spain. [Argentina would form from most, but not all, of these ‘Provinces’]
1820 – the pirate/privateer David Jewett reaches the islands after a unrewarding expedition to prey on Spanish ships. Jewett ‘claims’ the islands for Argentina in November but fails to inform Buenos Aries. He gives a letter containing the claim to a fellow Captain. [this settlement does not void the Nootka Sound Convention limitations, as per the secret clause, as Argentina is not recognized by either Spain or Britain and is therefore not a ‘third party’.]
1821 – Jewett seizes a US ship, the Rampart, in an act of piracy. Jewett then leaves the islands. Jewett’s letter is published in London. Buenos Aries makes no official announcement. [Britain has not recognized Argentina’s independence and so there are no diplomatic relations between the two countries at this time.]
1824 - Louis Vernet sends an expedition to the islands to hunt wild cattle and seals under the command of (?) Pablo Areguati. Vernet asks the Government of Buenos Aries for an official title/rank for Areguati but it is not granted. The expedition fails.
1825 – Britain recognizes Argentina’s independence from Spain.
1826 – (June) Vernet goes to the islands in an attempt to recoup his losses. Vernet approaches the British Consul and requests permission to form a settlement (?) This was granted provided he sent regular reports.
1828 – (January 5th) Vernet requests (and is given) a grant of land on East Falkland by the Buenos Aries Government. (January 30th) Vernet asks the British for their approval of the land grant which is signed by the Vice Consul on the 30th. Britain protests the grant of land by Buenos Aries. [On this occasion Vernet’s settlement does not void the Nootka Sound Convention limitations, as per the secret clause, because Vernet is acting in a private capacity i.e
a business venture.]
Mar 27th, 2010 - 12:18 am - Link - Report abuse 01829 – (June) The Buenos Aries Government under Juan Lavelle announces the ‘Political and Military Command of the Malvinas’ and gives Vernet the title of ‘civil and military commandant’. Britain protests. [Now that Vernet is acting in an official capacity on behalf of Argentina his settlement voids the Nootka Sound Convention limitations, as per the secret clause, because Argentina is now recognized by Britain as a country and not part of Spain. This breach allows Britain to act (?) although the Lavalle government’s actions are subsequently declared null and void by the next administration in Buenos Aries. There is also a suggestion that Vernet repudiates his title to the British (?)]
1831 – Back on the islands, Vernet seizes three US ships accusing them of ‘illegal sealing’. This is regarded by the United States as an act of piracy. (November) Vernet leaves the islands. (December) the USS Lexington arrives in the islands and ‘arrests’ 7 of Vernet’s crew [the Lexington raid]. The prisoners and some settlers leave with the Americans. Remaining is a settlement of 24 people.
1832 – (August) The Admiralty in London issue orders for the islands to be visited annually to reinforce British rights and prevent foreign forces establishing themselves on the islands (?). (October) Buenos Aries sends a garrison of 26 soldiers to the Falkland Islands. Britain protests.
1833 – (January) Argentine garrison ejected by British forces from HMS Clio. 22 of Vernet’s settlers remain as British subjects. (March) HMS Beagle visits the islands and Charles Darwin records the make-up of the remaining settlers in his diary. Vernet sends 7 more settlers to join the others residents taking the numbers to 29. Argentina protests the British ejection of its garrison and states it’s claim to the islands in the annual ‘Message to Congress’ [and continues to do so every year till 1849].
comment ( #10 ) = comments ( #11 , # 12 , # 13 -except 1832 hushing )
Mar 27th, 2010 - 07:44 am - Link - Report abuse 0“Hushing”. What does that mean?
Mar 27th, 2010 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0#15 ; our dear Sir Archibald ..you know “ hushing” meaning
Mar 27th, 2010 - 02:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0which is --cover up ..gloss over..conceal..-- in the street jargon !?
........“No Jorge, when you've bored everyone so much that people just ignore you, you can scream in the wilderness and no one hears you.”........
Mar 27th, 2010 - 03:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0- Altough sometimes I get angry, I usually have fun here.
I would like to be ignored, but as you can read, I'm under attack by a bunch of pirates. Like in 1833 :-)
........”comment ( #10 ) = comments ( #11 , # 12 , # 13 -except 1832 hushing )“......
Mar 27th, 2010 - 03:34 pm - Link - Report abuse 0...............”#15 ; our dear Sir Archibald ..you know “ hushing” meaning
which is --cover up ..gloss over..conceal..-- in the street jargon !?”........
- Just in a few words. Well said ed!!!!
Not so well said Jorgelito. Cover up, gloss over, conceal could = “hush up” but not “hushing”... And what was hushed up about 1832 by Hoytred anyway? I see Ed (and nor you) can't actually state what it is.
Mar 27th, 2010 - 04:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Archibalosaurio,
Mar 27th, 2010 - 08:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Hoytred is a Gíl de cuarta. Todo el tiempo es corregido por Justin y el acepta sus imprecisiones por lo tanto lo que escribe es basura!
Archibalinus, dejá de hablar huevadas!
Sorry, I've extended it a bit if it helps -
Mar 28th, 2010 - 12:34 am - Link - Report abuse 01832 – (August) The Admiralty in London issue orders for the islands to be visited annually to reinforce British rights and prevent foreign forces establishing themselves on the islands (?). (October) Buenos Aries sends a garrison of 26 soldiers to the Falkland Islands under Major Esteban Mestivier. Britain protests. (Nov) The Argentine garrison mutinies and kills Mestivier
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