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Pulp Mill Dispute: Protest and Counter Protest on Both Sides of the River Uruguay
Angry protestors from Argentina marched Sunday on to the bridge linking with Uruguay to express their disenchantment with the recent international court judgement on the pulp mill dispute, which confirmed the mill does not pollute and there’s no sufficient evidence for re-location or damages’ compensation as demanded by Argentine environmentalists. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesArgentina really are poor losers ... took it to the ICJ but didn't like the result. Well sorry folks, that ain't the way the game is played .... live with it !
Apr 26th, 2010 - 06:46 am - Link - Report abuse 0jajaja Argentina demanded Uruguay since it didn't comunicate Argentina about the plant and the f*cking ICJ stated Argentina is right.
Apr 26th, 2010 - 08:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0How stupid and ignorant you are.
No jorgyboy you LOST .... yes, Uruguay was found to be in technical breach of one of the rules of the agreement, but the ICJ agreed with Uruguay that they were NOT polluting the river and could therefore stay and continue with the operation ....... that's a LOSE jorgyboy !
Apr 26th, 2010 - 09:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0If it was a victory for the Argentine position then why are there protestors still blocking the bridge?
Apr 26th, 2010 - 11:35 am - Link - Report abuse 0The lawsuit was never really about pollution. Argentina has very old detergent factories upstream that dump in loads of phosphorous. So the river is already pretty contaminated. The Argies don't like looking at the factory and want Uruguay to dismantle it and move it out of sight! The only reason this ever started is because the Governor of Entre Rios wanted a larger bribe from Botnia so they moved it to Uruguay, he started the protests and blockade and it all kind of back fired on him. Now they don't know what do to because there is an election coming up and CFK doesn't want to look week by caving into Uruguay's demands. It's not like this plant was a surprise they all knew this plant was coming because Botnia started planting Eucalyptus forests 10-20 yrs ago to supply the plant. They are just mad the plant went on the Uruguay side and they are not getting the revenue. They are poor losers and bullies.
Apr 26th, 2010 - 01:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0ICJ didn't ask Uruguay to remove it as protestors wanted it, but Argentina was right on its demand according to the article of consultation. Saying that Argentina lost is just your stupid and childish way to generate some kind of debate here. Asshole!
Apr 26th, 2010 - 02:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0How stupid do you have to be to think a sovereign country will dismantle a multi-billion dollar plant and a large percentage of GDP because Argies don't like looking at it? Are you that arrogant or just dumb?
Apr 26th, 2010 - 02:26 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ok jorgyboy. lets take a look at it from a different angle ..... if Argentina 'won' then -
Apr 26th, 2010 - 02:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0a) what exactly has Argentina gained?
b) why are there still protests on the bridge?
c) what has Uruguay 'lost'?
7 You should read Uruguay river treaty before saying such sh*t.
Apr 26th, 2010 - 04:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 08. ICJ said Argentina was right and Uruguay wrong.
What could Argentina gain from it? Nothing. That's why ICJ is useless.
They say “”you are right, but we won't do anything“”, that's why they are good for nothing.
In Malvinas case they would say “”Argentina is right, but we can't do anything“” and stupid brits will say they won!
What Uruguay lost??? They won't be able to build any plant over the river without consultation with Argentina as the treaty stablishes.
jorgyboy, I seriously doubt that Argentina could win the historical argument over the Falklands as there exist so many proofs as to the spurious nature of its version of the 1830's, however, regardless of the historical decision I don't doubt that the ICJ would support the status quo as an unchangeable reality.
Apr 27th, 2010 - 01:49 am - Link - Report abuse 0As for the ICJ's decision on the pulp mill -
” Pulp Mills on the River Uruguay (Argentina v. Uruguay)
The Court finds that Uruguay has breached its procedural obligations to co-operate with Argentina and the Administrative Commission of the River Uruguay (CARU) during the development of plans for the CMB (ENCE) and Orion (Botnia) pulp mills
The Court declares that Uruguay has not breached its substantive obligations for the protection of the environment provided for by the Statute of the River Uruguay by authorizing the construction and commissioning of the Orion (Botnia) mill..... ”
So you have a technical win on one of your claims ... one other was won by Uruguay and all the rest were dismissed.
At best jorgyboy, that's a DRAW ... although of course there won't be a rematch and the pulp mill stays. Got to give it to you Argies, you sure know how ti win :-)
“”The Court declares that Uruguay has not breached its substantive obligations for the protection of the environment provided for by the Statute of the River Uruguay by authorizing the construction and commissioning of the Orion (Botnia) mill..... ”“”
Apr 27th, 2010 - 01:38 pm - Link - Report abuse 0- Yet!!! That is still under studies!
.........“regardless of the historical decision I don't doubt that the ICJ would support the status quo as an unchangeable reality.”........
- That's why it is useless. They don't do anything, they don't make justice!!!
It's funny how those that lose a court case then go on to reject the court itself. Never heard of a case winner doing that.
Apr 27th, 2010 - 02:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Jorge - “ ... That's why it is useless .... ”
Apr 27th, 2010 - 02:48 pm - Link - Report abuse 0And that's the reality jorgyboy ... if the ICJ would not give the islands to Argentina why on earth would the UN ?? It isn't going to happen - ever!
12. not worth asnwering.
Apr 27th, 2010 - 04:33 pm - Link - Report abuse 013. UN won't give Malvinas to Argentina, they will return by itself and UK will agree to that.
now that would take a HUGE charm offensive .... hardly Argentina's style ... ??
Apr 28th, 2010 - 12:20 am - Link - Report abuse 0“UN won't give Malvinas to Argentina, they will return by itself and UK will agree to that. ”
Apr 28th, 2010 - 11:27 am - Link - Report abuse 0And in other news, Argentine scientists claim to have produced the world's first genetically modified flying pig.
And scientists have called it JK lol
Apr 28th, 2010 - 03:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nope, its called Jorge and will shortly disappear up its own backside.
Apr 30th, 2010 - 10:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0Be more original Justin. Its called JK.
May 01st, 2010 - 07:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Commenting for this story is now closed.
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