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Buenos Aires has 15.000 ‘reported’ homeless of which 4.500 children
At least 15.000 people live in the streets of Argentina’s capital Buenos Aires where last year 113 died because of the cold or lack of medical assistance, warned a report from a Non Government Organization, Doctors of the World and Project 7. Read full article
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Jun 16th, 2010 - 06:23 am - Link - Report abuse 0What you waiting for Falklanders, come on in the water is lovely
Hmmmm I seem to recall that Nicotine said homeless numbers were less in Buenos Aires than in London?
Jun 16th, 2010 - 11:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0BA population 4 million, homeless number 15,000
London population 7-8 million, homless number 4,500
I don't think any amount of Youtubing will fudge this one!
In the interest of unbiased mathematical statistics.
Jun 16th, 2010 - 11:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0Do you happen to know how many Homeless London has?
Be a good sport and check it out.
There's a chap that sleeps every night in Parliament Square. I guess he must be homeless.
Jun 16th, 2010 - 11:48 am - Link - Report abuse 0It is actually quite a high number since homes can be built illegally in the shantytowns spread across BA and the gov't turns a blind eyes to illegal occupation of vacant property.
Jun 16th, 2010 - 12:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(2) Rhaurie
Jun 16th, 2010 - 12:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Who needs Nicotine to fudge?
You seem to manage quite well.
Buenos Aires metropolitan area has a population of about 14 million people; not 4 million.
Still, some quick maths, taking your numbers at face value, show that they are double as many homeless in Buenos Aires as in London.
Certainly, nothing we are proud of.
Are you?
I'll back said Arnold Schwarzenegger. So here I'm Rhaurie
Jun 16th, 2010 - 12:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Breaking news,
London has 400.000 ‘reported’ homeless of which 30.000 children.
The capital of UK (London) where last year 5.000 died because of the cold or lack of medical assistance, warned a report from a Non Government Organization, NicoDin of the world and Project 724.
Poverty is denied by most British in UK says George Galloway http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjHuhgY-AcQ
Most of British cannot get any assistance due to “ for homeless it’s hard to get hold of a Insurance Number since they can’t apply unless they have a reported address”
Some mothers, find very hard to get access to the 19.69 US dollars per child allowed under British law due to lack of founds and cuts in the budget.
By the way to little to feed a child in a very, very Expensive city as London.
According with Mr. NicoDin the situation is going to be worst the coming months.
Of course official British statistics try to hide the truth under the sofa as always do.
400.000 hidden homeless reported by Leslie Morphy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjHuhgY-AcQ
Real life Hidden Homeless by Deepika Rajani and Kristianne Colvin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjHuhgY-AcQ
Very sad, Very sad for a country that expends billions of dollars in no sense wars all over the world.
Get tuned for next coming reports from NicoNews.
Coming Next “Uplands of England 'under threat'” poverty, poverty a more poverty.
How many people are homless in the Falklands?
Jun 16th, 2010 - 12:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0400,000 homeless in London? LOL.
Jun 16th, 2010 - 01:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Have to love the insanity of NicoDin. And i love how this article proved my point from the last post.
Within the UK, there are 400,000 people homeless in one sense or another....but stay in hostels, bed and breakfasts, temporary accommodation, or with friends or family on their sofas or in their spare rooms, just for a place to sleep for the night... Not really homeless then. Where we live in shanty towns, which is not very nice at all.
Jun 16th, 2010 - 01:03 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The fact is we live in a very poor country, on average we earn a month what a UK person earns in 3 days. We need to change our government who cares about our poor people and poverty.
Think I checked my statistics and checked them again the number is 4,500 homeless in London, or thereabouts.
Jun 16th, 2010 - 01:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Nicotine have you been on the wacky stuff! Lol your bias knows no bounds I knew you were one for selecting information, but conjuring up magical figures? That has to be your piece of the month! as long as falsified figures and selective cherry picking of very out context quotes reassures your unfathomable bias I'm fine with that, just so long as you keep destroying your academic credibility with Youtube evidence!
(11) Rhaurie
Jun 16th, 2010 - 01:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I accepted your British statistics at face value...
Did you check Great Buenos Aires Population?
No need to fudge numbers between us. Right?
For that we have our beloved NicoDin
Think the figures refer to Buenos Aires City NOT the Greater Buenos Aires metropolitan area or Buenos Aires provinces, get with the programe!
Jun 16th, 2010 - 01:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I would imagine though that based upon those figures as 15,000 in a population of 4 million the homeless population in the metropolitan area might be anywhere in the region of 45,000, probalbly more as the outer suburban areas as is characteristic in most American countries tends to be poorer than the more affluent inner city regions.
Not fugdging of figures here Think, just factual statistics, old boy
.... except by the beloved youtube kid who seems to be a master at dissemting selected information I noticed he neglected to inform us that the BBC article he cited as saying “400,000” in London actually referred to the whole of the UK.
Jorge ------------------
Jun 16th, 2010 - 01:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 0don't forget , you are one of Buenos Aires homeless too ,
becouse you don't live in Buenos Aires........!!!!!!!!!!!
According to Wikipedia, admittedly not always up to date, Buenos Aires Province has a population of 15,052,177 in an area of 118,754 square miles whilst the city of Buenos Aires has a population of 3,050,728 in an area of 78.5 square miles. By comparison, London has a population of 7,556,900, urban London has a population of 8,278,251 and metropolitan London has a population of 12,300,000 to 13,945,000. Metropolitan London covers 659 square miles.
Jun 16th, 2010 - 02:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0If you are not in possession of a national identity document (DNI) you automatically fail to appear in any government statistic, you fail to qualify for basic medical attention, or social benefits. In the prov. of Córdoba, there are an assessed 300,000 people living on the verge of, or in poverty, with monthly earnings of 1800ARS or less. Church and charity organisations believe that the number of homeless, and those without DNI in the province, is somewhere around 20,000.....By the way, there is still no LPG available. According to local suppliers, they think supplies will be restored from next wednesday - maybe.
Jun 16th, 2010 - 02:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(15) Harrier 61
Jun 16th, 2010 - 02:44 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I think this link could put tings straight.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gran_Buenos_Aires
If you read the last lines before “References”:
“A vast conurbation which, as of 2000, had 9,270,661 inhabitants in the above-mentioned partidos and a total of 12,766,002 including the city of Buenos Aires proper.”
Also 12.7 millions in 2000.
My figure of about 14 million comes from “up to date” Argentinean sources.
I didn´t not link to them because :
1) They are in Spanish.
2) You instinctively distrust anything else than Anglo sources.
Anything else?
Damm how could I also forget to mention Nicotines use of George Gallow as a source hahha! Scraping the barrel there Nicotine that angry pathetic excuse of a man who took oil bribe money from Saddam Hussein, everybody knows in this country too ignore him and his warped views as should you ... it just makes you look stupid if you use him to try and desperately add some credibility to your already discredited arguments.
Jun 16th, 2010 - 04:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(16) Globetrotter
Jun 16th, 2010 - 04:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say:
At the moment, you cannot get LPG Gas bottles in Argentina.
That’s Right.
Speculation, laboral conflicts, corruption and mismanagement are to blame.
That’s right too.
You omit to say:
That you can’t get them at the subsidized official price of about 5U$D.
If you pay the marked price of 15U$D you can get as many as you want.
Gas is a commodity with an international price.
What’s your solution?
Free marked maybe?
The price in Europe for a LPG gas bottle (10 kg.) is about 30U$D
@Rhaurie-Craughwell, zethe & co.
Jun 16th, 2010 - 11:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0My article is so valid as the survey made by Doctors of the World and Project 7 (by the way who knows them?).
By the way a homeless is a person without a permanent home or residence if you want to manipulate the figures by categorizing them as chronic homeless, may be homeless, sofa homeless, etc. that is makeup to distort the real figures. As happen in UK with the jobless or unemployment.
@Rhaurie, again if you check the UK official statistics you should check the official statistic of Argentina are so valid for a fair comparison as the UK statistics. What says that in Buenos Aires there are 1.500 homeless.
Rhaurie again, by choosing Councillor Laura García Tuñón for an honest and accurate source of statistic is at minimum manipulation of the information.
@Diego you have not idea what you said and make yourself look very silly indeed.
If a British earns in 3 days the minimum salary (without extras, family salary, etc. to make more contrasts than your medium silly salary comparison) a British should have to earn 255 Pounds every 3 days, 2381 pound after tax deduction per month.
An adult gets a minimum wage of 5.80 pound in UK, so he would need to work 410,5 hours at month. This will imply that the poor man would have to work 14 hour every day including Saturday and Sunday like slave. Or 17.1 hours a day having S&S free. And if he is under 21 more hours as they get 4.83 Pounds per hour, and under 18 even more as they get 3.57 P/h.
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/nmw/
The reality says that UK minimum wage per month is around 845 pounds.
What make you a very poor guy with that amount to live with.
British person on a minimum wage of £5.80 per hour would be paid £46.40 for an 8-hour day or £232 for a 40-hour week. Equivalent to £1004.56 per month. In 2009 median full-time weekly earnings in London were £627, significantly higher than in other regions, where they ranged from £436 in the North East to £514 in the South East.
Jun 17th, 2010 - 12:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Ah! Nicotine you really are the one trick pony aren't you? Are you going to answer the question and grudgingly accept that the above figures ring pretty true? Instead of trying to change your tune and steer the debate away from critical analysis of your beloved Parrot-Tree.
Jun 17th, 2010 - 01:37 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You almost sound like the Student who comes back home after failing his grades and saying ah yes I got a bad a grade but X Y and Z also didn’t so well!
Now without going into some tangent by selecting whatever piece of information comes up from your carefully edited search results, can you or can you not disprove that the homeless population is significantly larger in BA city than its British equivalent which you repeatedly have done with little success.
BA city population 3-4 million, homeless 15,000
London population 6-8 million homeless 4,500
Now I don’t want to here about any fictious or fudged figures for the UK were are talking about BA here not the UK.
Do keep us on tender hooks Nictotine! Another instalment from Sultan Galloway per chance?
(22) Rhaurie
Jun 17th, 2010 - 01:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Read my lips and repeat:
Buenos Aires Population is 14 million; not 4 million.
Ok you may sit down now.
I think this link could put tings straight.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gran_Buenos_Aires
If you read the last lines before “References”:
“A vast conurbation which, as of 2000, had 9,270,661 inhabitants in the above-mentioned partidos and a total of 12,766,002 including the city of Buenos Aires proper.”
Also 12.7 millions in 2000.
My figure of about 14 million comes from “up to date” Argentinean sources.
I didn´t not link to them because :
1) They are in Spanish.
2) You instinctively distrust anything else than Anglo sources.
Anything else?
On this one Think has a point. It refers to the metropolitan area around the city, which has 14 million people.
Jun 17th, 2010 - 08:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I had problems trying to explain to nicodin that London was not the square mile in the center of the city called “city of London”.
Although, i fail to understand how NicoDin thinks there are 400,000 homeless in London when he still believes that London is a square mile center of London(Provence) with only 8000 people living there. They must all emigrate there at night to have party's.
Both city's are very comparable. Both have around the same population of around 13-15 million people. London is smaller in size i believe, as we are a smaller country.
NicoDin, again. Your city(as stated in the post.) Has 15,000 People homeless. With only 1,700 beds. Thats almost 13,000 people sleeping on the street.
London has a number of around 4,000 homeless people. Most of them are housed in temporary accommodation. It is a problem every city has, but it's just not a massive problem in london.
Thanks :-)
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