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Mrs. Kirchner to Beijing to mend trade relations with China
Argentine president Cristina Kirchner will be signing 10 billion US dollars in trade agreements with China during her official visit to the Asian giant scheduled to begin next July 13, according to Foreign Affairs minister Hector Timerman. Read full article
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Disclaimer & comment rulesI wonder who will get the lions share of the 10 billion?
Jul 07th, 2010 - 07:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0Do you have any doubt?
Jul 07th, 2010 - 11:06 am - Link - Report abuse 0I guess some of this politicians don't know a thing about industrialized farming and hunger, For Argentina this is a win win situation if they take back the soya bean and feed it to the cows, then when China goes hungry we can sale them the meat or else we can make burning oil and sell them renewhable energy, soya is a versatile bean, if I was Chritina I would stop wasting time bothering this Chinese people and work on a Argentine national program to lunch a soya processing plant in Argentina and export the finish product rather then give away the raw material to export and inport finish products, Argentina needs to create jobs for themsleves and stop giving them away to other nations.
Jul 07th, 2010 - 12:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Dear Vargas,
Jul 07th, 2010 - 03:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0as a matter of fact, soyoil, meal and biodiesel are the main subproducts of soya. And Argentina has the world´s biggest hub in Rosario area for the industrial processing of the two former and a growing industry on the latter.
China´s new strategy is to replace oil-by-beans, and they have built facilities in Dailan for that attempt.
Perhaps, Cristina should have learnt more about Argentina´s few strengths before weakening them.
Dear Pheel thanks for agreeing with me, that Argentina has to keep all the raw material and keep the jobs in Argentina, I was sure someone would see that keeping jobs is better then selling the raw material witch exports the jobs to the countries buying up all the raw materials, variety in the market is always good, I heard that soya is a good replacement for cattle feed, I think Argentina's meat price was going up, maybe they should keep the soya to feed the cows and bring down the price of Argentine meat, what still has to be done is get all the british out from our land and rid Argentina from british companies.
Jul 07th, 2010 - 05:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I feel that the problems aren´t the companies but the lack of a national project and a leadership of consensus in the long term. Brazil is inviting everybody to invest and nobody feels that´s kind of national surrender.
Jul 07th, 2010 - 06:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0In my personal vision of near future, we are going to miss yankee “backyard approach”!!!!... when the chinese start to “rule the waves” in South America. Not an american dream.
pd: Brits are the past, some kind of old fashioned mix of (sportmen + pirates) that lost the battle for investing in Argentina after WW1 and were definitely trashed out from the world by the americans after WW2. Today, just an appendix of the american empire.
Pheel: I couldn’t agree more. We have been brainwashed since so long that we lost all sense of perspective. We always tended to blame the others, particularly among the foreigners, the British, which is démodé. We always were in love with conspiracy theories. We don’t have a national project nor has one the main opposition parties and besides, we had destroyed the education system.
Jul 07th, 2010 - 07:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0congratulations argentina, you have just been bought by china,
Jul 07th, 2010 - 08:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0[or you will be if you sign anything] when are you ever going to learn,
you dont need china, if you want something done, then do it yourself,
(7) Katraskin
Jul 07th, 2010 - 08:36 pm - Link - Report abuse 0We... We...We...We...We...
That makes 5 We's in your short entry.
Its nice seeing an Argentinean finally taking responsibility..... but.........
With all the bad things you have done against our Country; You should be in jail mate!
But not all is negative... ohhhh no........
I want to compliment you for your English...
How is your Spanish, by the way?
I guess katraskin is part of the military junta that destroyed education and killed civilians, as you can see by this report China absorbs 70% of our soya and we have the cheapest, aparently there is a project, if not China, India or Pakistan will buy it and still make a profit if finally sold to China, it would be beneficial for Argentina to be out of the China deal so they can sell it at market value, what we do have in Argentina is a lot of ignorants who let other people tell them what to think rather then do the research themselves, Do I need to give you all an example ??
Jul 07th, 2010 - 08:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0When did mercopress become an extension of 6,7,8?
Jul 08th, 2010 - 11:12 am - Link - Report abuse 0Lot of prejudices and intolerance.
As JHernández said:
“os irmaos sean...o....los de fora”.
Everybody needs to be careful of “gassy” as stick it up your junta so delightfully refers to him/her/it. Have a look around on the comments on this site and you will find where I posted excerpts from the Wikipedia log showing why he/she/it is indefinitely banned.
Jul 08th, 2010 - 01:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Now, on this thread, so far, he has been borderline but I can tell that he is beginning to foam at the mouth. This is usually followed by wild, illiterate, ignorant, implausible, unintelligible comments and assertions that blame everyone else, no matter who, for the conspiracy against him and his country. Is this paranoia? Anxiety? Sexual repression? Schizophrenia? Who knows? He should be humoured. ................. No, the hell with it, it's so funny when he loses it.
I do hope the Botox Queen has researched the niceties of etiquette and courtesy in China. It is very important when meeting someone, that one bows low. And waits until one has been properly shafted before standing up again.
some people have lots of experience being shafted before they stand up, harrier you seem to be the most experinced here at being shafted can you tell us how you got shafed by a China man ?? and can you tell us if you liked it ?? it would seem you have great memoryes of the event, does it hurt ? ....did anyone hear that Argentina soya is way cheaper then any other soya in the world ? I would have pulled out of the deal and sell the soya at market value and turn the rest into renewhable energy, and give the Argentine people jobs.
Jul 08th, 2010 - 03:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0does it hurt
Jul 08th, 2010 - 04:02 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What when you use your brain gassy?
no you should try it, doesnt hurt as much as you not having the Falklands
what is fakland ?? is that where helpers come from ?? is that the place where brits go get shafted when they stand up with a military bill every year since 1982 ? Don't you guys love your tax system where you are being shafted 24/7, 365 days a year and you can only come cry to us Argentine in the internet ? pathetic how little and irrelevant the brits have become, don't you think ?, I call that inferiority complex, it's really sad to watch brits leak our boots like that, you can all see them here pesting people soo they can feel important, the worst part is they come in to be trashed because nobody can stand them, if you all look they are talking to eachother and attacking anyone who thinks different then they do, they call that freedom I call that racist.
Jul 08th, 2010 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(9) Think.
Jul 08th, 2010 - 04:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Think: Thanks for correcting me. You’re right, too many “we”. My English is
not so good as you seem to think. Next time I’ll try to improve it. I couldn’t avoid noticing your heavy touch of sarcasm in your comment, but it didn’reach me. I must assume that you are smart enough to understand what I had meant in my comment. If you don’t, I would gladly translate for you: Those who brainwashed the people of our country for so long and destroyed de educational system were the populist parties. And the military, well, they had contributed too. By the way, my Spanish is better than my English.
“pathetic how little and irrelevant the brits have become, don't you think”
Jul 08th, 2010 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0I believe you're getting your nation mixed up with our one.
O no zethe ! we can all see on this report how many brits came to leak boots and pest Argentine's, I doubt there is any Argentine posting other then me, with that you can probably make the rest out on your own but let me help you see. brits are not wanted because they are a pest to everyone else, there is no Argentine here besides me, and you guys are trashing Argentina when the reports is about a 10B trade deal, you guys are all trolls, but even worst is that none of you has a brain to argue a point on their own, I am one and you guys have to take turn for me to slap you arround. UK is not even a nation it's an island not bigger then Malvinas, if you guys wheren't terrorits with nukes Argentina would have annexed the damn british rock, but we all know that you guys have a nuclear sub in the area witch should force Argentine toi get a few nukes of their own, we can use this threat to arm Argentina but we are still civilized, but I am sure with time we will.
Jul 08th, 2010 - 05:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well I for one, think it is laudable that the Argentine mental health authority’s are enlightened enough to allow gassy to be able to use the internet
Jul 08th, 2010 - 06:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0you should know better how mental pacients are treated “stick” I mean you are one aren't you ?? you appear to know the in and out of mental facilities very well, you should take up your dose about now the subject here is not homesexuality soo don't hit on me, it is about China and Argentine, I am sure you are like one of those brits who want to be Argentine and could only become Malvinense, but you know what I'll be the better person and let you taste a little bit of Argentina in this blog, but it will never be enought for you, this is why you will keep coming back for a little piece of Argentina, kind of pathetic,
Jul 08th, 2010 - 06:30 pm - Link - Report abuse 018 avargas2001 :
Jul 08th, 2010 - 06:52 pm - Link - Report abuse 0wrong, wrong..wrong.
I'm a troll, aren't you banned from wikipedia for trolling? not a nation? we've been a nation longer than most. Were a small one, yes. I don't see how that factors into anything, our old empire proves that “size doesn't matter”.
You threaten to invade a peacfull island, then in the very next sentance claim to be civilized?
First of all, the sub around the area is not one with nukes. it has a nuklear reactor poweing it. it's just a normal attack sub. Second you couldn't invade the islands, like YOU have said in the past.
(10) Avargas
Jul 08th, 2010 - 07:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“I guess katraskin is part of the military junta that destroyed education and killed civilians…”
Vargas: You are trying to be kind of smart arse. If you want to exchange ideas, assuming you have any, go ahead, but don’t insult me! Maybe Pheel is right. What’s your favourite TV show 6,7,8 ?
you are like one of those brits who want to be Argentine
Jul 08th, 2010 - 08:04 pm - Link - Report abuse 0No thanks gassy dont want to look like a shaved chimp
You seem to be remarkably well informed on all aspects of homosexuality,any little hidden secrets my one man argie special needs soldier
zethe hide your ignorance, there is a nuclear sub in Malvinas, we need nukes not to attack because we have no ships in UK we have british ships in our door steps we need nukes to defend Argentina the UN can't help and they showds us that, we tryed the good ways but british only understand one thing and so they should have it, too bad for them we only need one good shot and everyone will be gone Argentina is a big place to cover MAD bring it on. katraskin I couldn't insult you, you do fine making yourself look like and arse all on your own, I could add anything to that, and no I don't watch tv it makes people become stupid. and again what with brits, racism and homosexuality, this freaks really are perverted, disgusting.
Jul 08th, 2010 - 10:47 pm - Link - Report abuse 0first of Argentina can never own nuclear weapons, they would probably kill themselves, or blow south America up, the civilised world would never allow children to own such weapons, the British on the other hand, would never threaten anyone with them, they are for defence only,, and only the nutters on this planet like Iran and north Korea wants to kill everyone,, so the fact are this, even if the weapons were used, their is a 99% chance that all life would be killed, EVEN ARGENTINA so what would you gain, like most children [nothing] because you all think its just a game,, the best place for Argentina, like all children should have your toys taken away, and put to bed by 9pm,
Jul 08th, 2010 - 11:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0well it's not UK under threat, but Argentine, so in order to defend our nation from a nuclear attack from an invading nuclear force we must all support Argentina to get nuclear weapons for self defence purposes, we have the right and the duty to defend our nation against threats and colonial powers, we can learn a lot from the scince and never depend on other nations for technology, we will never be put aside by an island, we will control our seas and determine our own future, we will never have to go as if begging for rights, we will take the right as many nuclear nations do, I am an Argentine who supports my country on getting the nuclear weapons we need to defend our region, all nuclear powers are in control of their own destiny and subjecting the rest to their exploitation, if it took a nuke to end opression now the next generation will know better, I am willing to make that sacrfice, anyone else here is trully patriotic ? or am I ranting to a bunch of british trolls ??
Jul 09th, 2010 - 12:51 am - Link - Report abuse 024: Yes. We have a nuclear POWERED sub, not one armed with nuclear weapons.
Jul 09th, 2010 - 01:10 am - Link - Report abuse 0Like i've said. A nuclear warhead would not reach the UK from argentina. This is why we keep ours on subs, they have basicly unlimited range.
“Argentina is a big place to cover MAD bring it on”
We have around 350 nukes. I think we would have enough if we wanted to. But we wouldn't.
it would be hard to defend an ilsand if it already had the nukes planted in the in the ground, you british think that people will war at you level we are not that stupid, in any case you wait for a missile, while we look for a way to smuggle it it now you make sure that every cow and every fruit is helthy we wouldn't want the whole place to get sick before we get there, 350 nukes wow imagine why would UN lets us have at least 35 but i think with 3 will be enought, one for show the other to plant in your front yard and the last one to defend oursleves. If that is what you guys are willing to do for 2000 ilegal alliens bring it on, we are ready to show the rest of the world how irrational brits can be, and when we are done you and I will be at the same level regardless of what side we are on, maybe the next generation will learn to respect.
Jul 09th, 2010 - 01:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0@ gassy
Jul 09th, 2010 - 05:42 am - Link - Report abuse 0I don't watch tv it makes people become stupid.
well somethings to blame
I haven't paid much attention to this thread since my opening comment ..... my, but it's going well isn't it? Old gasseous is about to bust a gut by the look of things :-)
Jul 09th, 2010 - 06:37 am - Link - Report abuse 0“we are ready to show the rest of the world how irrational brits can be”
Jul 09th, 2010 - 09:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0You are going to show the world how irrational we are, but nuking us while we aren't even at war?
...lol.
avargas2001:
Jul 09th, 2010 - 04:10 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“again what with brits, racism and homosexuality, this freaks really are perverted, disgusting”.....“If that is what you guys are willing to do for 2000 ilegal alliens bring it on, we are ready to show the rest of the world how irrational brits can be”
Regarding homosexuality your country is full of it. Including Maradona, in 1992 was found in bed w/male- friend and drugged. I guess that you referred to the Falklanders when in your madness you wrote: “2000 ilegal alliens”. In the first place they're 3000 and growing, no argentineans please, they're derange.
Hi Hoytred.
Jul 09th, 2010 - 06:54 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Gassy is really working up a good one, isn't he? Let's keep it going until he tries rubbing one of his brain cells against the other and causes a short.
Now, gassy. You know that nothing really hurts Brits. Most of the nations in the world have learned this over time. Take your case. It took 34 British aircraft to defeat your air force. 1 submarine to sink one unit of your navy and send the rest running for port and around 7% of our army to defeat yours. Sort of a no-brainer, isn't it? If you've kept up with the comments all around, I think the scoreline has become:
1 Brit = 20 Argentines.
32 liberty, you guys should know about homosexuality, I am new to this things, if it wasn't because brits here, I would have never talked to a homo, but you are all here trying your best to get atention, they seem to enjoy getting trashed around, nobody will miss them if Argentine ever gets nukes to protect our territory. hopefully N Korea and Iran open their doors to us.
Jul 10th, 2010 - 12:46 am - Link - Report abuse 010% of the worlds population is gay , so you've most defenantly met gay people before.
Jul 10th, 2010 - 01:32 am - Link - Report abuse 0But it's unlikely anyone would tell you because of your clear hate for anything you don't personally believe in.
One thing i noticed was back in school. all of the kids who used to tease other kids for being gay and generally being way over homophobic, turned out to be gay themselves by the time they left college.
Something to think about.
LOL #35 oviously you have not payed attention to the the way I write, because this will give you the first clue that I barely finished college, I guess you where too distracted trying to get attention to noticed, soo according to you I made it through the worst period in life ok, and I am still homofovic, on this one thing you are 100% right, I am homofovic and proud of it, there is nothing to think about, I am as sure as Malvinas being Argentine.
Jul 10th, 2010 - 02:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0ke i said, argentina will never be allowed to have nuks, you just cant be trusted, no normal person or nation would ever fire one, unless they expect to be wiped of the planet for good,
Jul 10th, 2010 - 02:11 am - Link - Report abuse 0so by your own words , to nuke the brits, argentina would be no more,
so do you best, you vever know you might meat all them vergins up their in cucko land,
#37 you couldn't keep Iran or N Korea from building them in a nuclear factory in a country smaller then most Argentine provinces, how is UK going keep an eye on every ship bringing them to our ports from Iran, N Korea, China, Pakistan or even India ??#37 besides we are not asking anyone if we are allowed, we are telling you that do to national security we have the right to selfdefence, it wouldn't be fair to Argentina not to have them, I am sure even a bully nation like UK likes a fair fight, this is why UN was created, we will have to wait untill Argentina has at lest 350 nuclear heads. that is how many UK has right ?? lets have a mans fight, not a cowards fight.
Jul 10th, 2010 - 03:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0I want to draw your attention to this fascinating but sadly overseen MercoPress Fisheries article.
Jul 10th, 2010 - 06:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0As we all know, fish is of paramount importance for the Islands economy.
This new discovery could be a “potent boost” for Malvinas products!
http://en.mercopress.com/2010/07/08/falklands-fisheries-scientists-discover-mating-habits-of-deep-sea-squid
great - hot air from Gassious, with his nuke fixation and a repetitive belch from Think ...... so how are the trade talks going?
Jul 10th, 2010 - 08:47 am - Link - Report abuse 038 avargas2001: Size of a nation is nothing.
Jul 10th, 2010 - 09:43 am - Link - Report abuse 0In N Korea 1 in every 25 people are in the military, with around 1.6 million troops. It's a very dangerous state and is likely going to be the site for the next big war.
Your view of nukes is intresting. You do realise after building these nukes they are just going to sit in a silo doing nothing?
Out of the 30,000 nuclear warheads in the world only two have been used in a wartime enviroment(many more in testing).
#41 yes I am, but the political power of such weapon, has huge ramifications, for example when you make claims at the UN, if UN won't listen you can inforce it, as USA and UK did against the people of Iraq under false pretense, you can trial and execute, or murder a state leader with no evidence or proof of any crime commited, you can kill people in a mosque, blow a school with a missile, kill children from airplanes, the list is endless, but believe me this is not what we wanted for, We want for selfdefence to be kept in a silo untill the threat from the occupation of Malvinas ends, only then we could disarm it, what else do we need it for ?
Jul 10th, 2010 - 10:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Thats not because we have nukes. Thats because we have a strong army, navy and airforce.
Jul 10th, 2010 - 10:22 am - Link - Report abuse 0We had nukes in 1982. Did it stop you from invadind the falklands? no. They are quite useless in reality.
42. Only one you seem to have missed from your list is obliterating Buenos Aires. Knew we'd missed something. Never mind, next time maybe!
Jul 10th, 2010 - 05:12 pm - Link - Report abuse 0and when you have spent billions on nukes you will proberbly never use,
Jul 10th, 2010 - 09:31 pm - Link - Report abuse 0then like the rest of the world, you argentina will be left with getting rid of them, and all the radiation that goes with them, the west has all these in isolation, would you like them ,
I gather South America is big on agro toxins banned in Europe, the USA etc. Wonder how China will feel?
Jul 11th, 2010 - 05:23 pm - Link - Report abuse 0at least an englishman did make it to the world cup finals
Jul 11th, 2010 - 09:27 pm - Link - Report abuse 0even if he was only the REF, lol
I am sorry I give everyone the wrong idea when I suguessted to arm Argentina with nukes for self defence, but I keep wondering how will Argentina will ever be sure UK will stop at Malvinas ? oviously UN can't offer Argentina any security, in lack of this Argentina must respond to achieve their own security, public officials have the moral obligation to the interest of the state they represent, not a selected groups with vias agendas, China has the largest population on the planet today, and if Argentina is going to deal with China we should be trading a little more than soya, just an idea. #46 China apparently feels they will like 10B worth of it, and there is no toxing accident as you say, or anything like mad cow or Oil spills.
Jul 12th, 2010 - 04:59 am - Link - Report abuse 0Breaking News:
Jul 12th, 2010 - 08:05 am - Link - Report abuse 0Falklands Oil and Gas Shares Down nearly 50% Today
I love Mondays!!!
http://www.stockopedia.co.uk/content/falkland-oil-and-gas-disappointed-by-dry-well-at-toroa-prospect-44627/
Hi gassy. Please don't be insulting.
Jul 12th, 2010 - 01:11 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You can't go putting Argentina, public officials and moral obligation in the same sentence. Actually, I'm not sure it's possible to have a moral obligation to a state. To have a moral obligation to people, that's OK.
Think here
Jul 12th, 2010 - 01:57 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Well lads.......
The moment finally arrived...
My account has been “Regulated” (Closed:-)
Too much “Foul language I suppose???
After too many years with censorship in Argentina I don’t “think” it’s funny so..... ....
Let’s see if they delete this farewell!
(Sending this from a new account just to say good bye to the “intelligent ones”)
Take care
“how will Argentina will ever be sure UK will stop at Malvinas”
Jul 12th, 2010 - 02:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You wont.
zethe,
Jul 12th, 2010 - 05:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't be silly, the UK has no interest in Argentina, the pretext that the UK would even contemplate an invasion in the 21st Century; ie don't indulge irrational paranoia.
The Falklands were never Argentine.
But it's fun to feed the troll :-(
Jul 12th, 2010 - 06:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0besides even if we did invade Argentina, what the hell would we do with it, except give it back to the people, who in turn would return it to the same government that was replaced, then its back to square one, so what’s the point,
Jul 12th, 2010 - 08:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0no my friends you keep it,
I would find it highly amusing to give the islanders governance over argentina, in the case that it did ever happen.
Jul 12th, 2010 - 11:20 pm - Link - Report abuse 0i think the islanders would also find it fun,
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