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Brazil/EU summit to follow up the resumed negotiations with Mercosur

Wednesday, July 14th 2010 - 00:59 UTC
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The recent resumption of negotiations for a cooperation and free trade agreement between Mercosur and the European Union will be at the heart of the EU/Brazil summit scheduled to begin Wednesday in Brasilia. Read full article


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  • NicoDin

    Such a moaning people resulted these officers from the EU commission.
    May be they don’t like their own medicine?

    EU is a very protectionist block, especially countries like France, Italy, Germany, etc.

    They also expend a lot of taxpayer’s money in subsidies like in agriculture, aerospace, aviation, railways, textile, cars, electronics, software, etc. sectors and making loses industries.

    And they are specialist to harm competition and export from others countries.

    Hypocrisy seems to be undervalued on these days else by selling some of it they could get away of the financial trouble in the Euro zone.

    Jul 14th, 2010 - 09:36 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • harrier61

    Looks like Brazil and the rest of Mercosur are on a loser here. Argentine trade restrictions have been noted by many countries, so it's not just the EU that is concerned. South America is well into GM crops, growth hormones for livestock and use of agro toxins, i.e. chemicals used on animals and crops that remain and can affect humans, and are thus banned in many areas of the world. And, of course, there is the matter of bio-fuels where South America happily contributes to deforestation to the detriment of the global environment.
    I can't see a problem with protectionism on the part of the developed nations in these respects.

    Jul 14th, 2010 - 10:00 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • JustinKuntz

    There is some merit in accusations that the EU is protectionist in the agricultural sector, particularly France/Germany/Spain. The playing field should be levelled in that respect. Not so sure I'd agree that its protectionist in other fields as that has by the by ceased some time ago.

    Equally we do not wish to import GM crops, or use growth hormones and they are banned in Europe. If they wish to export they should respect those restrictions and provide the regulatory framework to ensure they do not enter the EU under false pretences.

    Jul 14th, 2010 - 12:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • NicoDin

    @harrier61 & JustinKuntz

    We don’t care about EU we are not looking for any agreement otherwise EU is who is in a hurry to archive an agreement to bust their export.

    Since 20 years Europe and US has lost importance to us as export markets due to they protectionism, artificial barriers and lack of transparency on their market.

    So we don’t care about EU regulations you get our stuff anyway through China, they buy our GM crops they made the junk stuff and you eat it like in US through Walmart where the 80% of what they sale is coming from China. Carrefour does the same for us in Europe but directly from Argentina like many others.

    So if EU wants an agreement, this time would be under our terms not their terms on the contrary recession would be even worst and much painful for fellow Europeans.

    Life is like this and always provides time for revenge.

    Have a nice day and a good GM Argie’s Breakfast your bacon surely comes from a pig fed with GM soya bean crops from Argie land or Brazil.

    Haha at least you wouldn’t die of mad cow disease, think about it.

    Jul 15th, 2010 - 06:04 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • harrier61

    Nico. You seem to be under the strange impression that the EU only tests meat and meat products coming from countries that we have doubts about. Not so. They are ALL tested. Wouldn't be fair otherwise. So it doesn't really matter the route. If the stuff is iffy, it will be rejected.
    Also strange how you don't want an agreement when “on EU/Brazil relations, Latinamerica’s largest economy is expected to demand a recovery of its share of the EU beef market following an 85% collapse of exports in 2009, motivated by EU sanitary authorities claiming suspicions that Brazilian beef did not comply with all EC regulations.”

    But then perhaps you are speaking from the point of view of Argentina where “the EU complained bitterly about what is described as “Argentine trade barriers” mainly to EU food products, which the Argentine government vehemently denies.”

    By the way, I don't eat bacon. I don't buy from Walmart and I don't buy from Carrefour.

    Jul 15th, 2010 - 07:41 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • NicoDin


    May be you buy from Tesco or Salisbury what is quite the same.
    About the beef stuff you should be aware that Agri-products and meat is a thing of the past.
    Our main exports are industrial goods Agriculture only represents the 7% of our GDP and even though exporting the whole production hardy will represent the 30% of our exports.

    Anther thing you should be aware of is that the remarkable importance to the Agriculture sector given by the media like Clarin and La Nacion (the source of all craps) is just an expression or their own interests.

    Clarin main shareholders that have a steak close to 80% (Hernestina Noble, Héctor Magneto, José Antonio Aranda and Lucio Rafael Pagliaro) are direct linked with the Agriculture business sector.

    Aranda for example is the main shareholder of Braford Argentina for example and all of them have links with Soros (Soybean), Goldman Sachs 20% share holder, etc.

    Both Media groups have shareholders with agro business interest so the Campo and the Gaucho Image is very funtional to them.

    80/85% of the meat produced in Argentina is for domestic consumption.
    On the other hand EU like US have quotas like the Hilton so doesn’t matter if we enter into agreement the export share would be the same.

    So EU and US are not attractive markets anymore for Argentina we prefer to sale cars, car parts, machinery to Brazil, Mexico, Venezuela, Uruguay, Africa and Middle East countries and raw materials, oil derivatives, monomers, polymers, etc and commodities to Asia.

    You can sale the beef if you want what is the problem?

    So the majority of Argentineans don’t give a damn thing about an agreement with EU or US if they don’t open they market to our products manufactured products.

    Why we would sale leather when we make shoes? Or Soyabean when we produce manufactured food?

    Plant your own soyabean, buy from Africa, China, Mexico, etc. we will sale to them later industrialized products with more add value.


    Jul 17th, 2010 - 10:45 am - Link - Report abuse 0
  • harrier61

    It's fine. I always check. Words like ”Produced in/Made in (any South American country) and it goes back on the shelf.

    I'm so glad that 80/85% of meat produced in Argentina is for domestic consumption. It may explain a lot of things. Carry on poisoning yourselves.

    Jul 17th, 2010 - 06:49 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • NicoDin


    Oh! No on the contrary you eat rubbish and we eat wonderful well.

    Have you paid attention to your rubbish diet?

    You are not famous for your cussine mate.

    “British cities have fared poorly in a Europe-wide survey, with London having the worst food and Birmingham being the most boring big town...”

    “The 2,963 Europeans, including 559 Britons, who were surveyed also considered Liverpool to have the second-worst cuisine among European cities, with Birmingham third worst”

    That says too much about what you eat so food to feed pigs would be a delicatessen in UK.

    Don’t make me laugh please, haha

    Jul 18th, 2010 - 12:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0
  • harrier61

    @8 NicoDim. Having glanced over so many of your “comments”, you can't persuade me that you aren't suffering mental derangement. Hopefully brought about by your contaminated diet. If it's not your diet, it's your ancestry and then there's no hope.

    Now, you don't quote any source for your “survey” but, if it exists, I'll bet it related to a certain type of commercial establishment. Has no bearing on what Brits eat at home. And I don't live in a city. Too many assumptions, chum!

    Jul 18th, 2010 - 02:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0

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