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Mujica and CFK announce agreement to jointly monitor the River Uruguay
Uruguay and Argentina finally reached on Wednesday an agreement for the joint monitoring of the River Uruguay which should end the long-standing dispute over the construction of the Finnish UPM/Botnia pulp mill dating back to 2005. Read full article
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Jul 29th, 2010 - 03:14 am - Link - Report abuse 0Hoorah ... got there in the end. But are the pickets happy? Someone should tell them that it'll never get better if you pick it! (or so my old Mum told me :-)
Jul 29th, 2010 - 06:19 am - Link - Report abuse 0The installation of automatic equipment, up-stream and downstream on both banks would have solved all problems long ago.
Jul 29th, 2010 - 07:58 am - Link - Report abuse 0Automatic equipment would have solved the problems? So Argentina has “engineered” a bit of industrial espionage.
Jul 29th, 2010 - 10:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0Mujica's deal is not a win for Uruguay but a lost. BIG win for Argentina. The deal favors a country hungry for domination. Another tanning factory closed doors in Uruguay, leaving 700 employees out of work, it becomes the everyday norm. Stora-Enso, Portucel, ENCE are not going to establish their mills in Uruguay. All along the conflict was generated to take away Uruguay’s industrial investment.
Jul 29th, 2010 - 12:32 pm - Link - Report abuse 0THIMC
Jul 29th, 2010 - 01:42 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Three birds with one shot!
1) The bridge is open.
2) A lot of political goodwill for both our presidents.
3) The control of the polluting industries on the Argentinean side of the river will be managed and run centrally.
I can’t keep my hands down!
Win – Win situation............ again
PS:
By the way guys..... It’s not going so good for Argos Resources stock on their first day on the floor..
- 9% on introduction day!!!
That’s not gooooooooooood........
What were they 31p ... so 9% is just under 3p .............. so down to 28p! Nope, some of the few shares I've got (non-oil) bounce around far more than that. And Argos are on AIM ..... only to be expected. I would not be surprised at bigger fluctuation to come........... exploring is a dangerous game!
Jul 29th, 2010 - 02:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0So ... how the news going down with the pickets then ??
What Pickles?
Jul 29th, 2010 - 02:24 pm - Link - Report abuse 0What a pity for Uruguay. Wonder how much Mujica is going to be paid?
Jul 29th, 2010 - 04:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina seems to be moving down the track of weakening any opposition before taking over.
What a pity for Argentina that the Falkland Islands can't be dealt with the same way. But the Islanders have a long history of standing up for themselves, as does Britain.
Uruguayan president Jose Mujica, 75, formally declared to the Transparency and Public Ethics commission that his entire wealth amounts to a 1987 Volkswagen Beetle valued at about 1.900 US dollars.
Jul 29th, 2010 - 05:41 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://en.mercopress.com/2010/06/05/uruguayan-president-mujica-only-asset-is-a-1987-vw-beatle
Con diez tipazos como el Pepe pararíamos a toda America Latina.
9 harrier61:
Jul 29th, 2010 - 06:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Good post, mate, that’s the truth, the old decrepit traitor tupamaro has sold the present and the future of the Uruguayan people. But again 99% of this country is brainless like the argentinians, just give them, bones, stew and mate.
An introduction to Pepe Mujica; my president on the other side........
Jul 29th, 2010 - 06:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24FfHZuhChk
And be carefull with his bitch!!!...
Manuelita; the indigenous anti capitalistic Rottweiler :-0
Lovely. So now we can confidently expect pictures and reports of Mujica living in poverty. Can't afford much on US$1,900. Lots of room, and time, for covert investigations.
Jul 29th, 2010 - 07:16 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Pepe Mujica... the richest man of Uruguay....
Jul 29th, 2010 - 07:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 080% love him....
19% respect him
1% are American Marines that sleep with a rifle instead of a woman.....
http://www.buenosairesherald.com/BreakingNews/View/40676
Jul 29th, 2010 - 11:21 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Those pickles :-)
(15) Hoyt
Jul 30th, 2010 - 02:26 am - Link - Report abuse 0Ahhhh................ those pickles.
I suppose they will go back “into the jar” after solving the problem.....
Like these ones:
http://www.londonoutloud.co.uk/antiwardemo.html
Hey ... don't knock it, where do you think all the police overtime comes from ?
Jul 30th, 2010 - 08:21 am - Link - Report abuse 0I thought you were retired?
Jul 30th, 2010 - 10:52 am - Link - Report abuse 0Still 4 years before GB goes out of Afghanistan in utter Victory....
Lots of overtime possibilities...
Never mind ... there's always something else to whinge about :-)
Jul 30th, 2010 - 01:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0(19) Hoyt
Jul 30th, 2010 - 02:59 pm - Link - Report abuse 0You say:
There's always something else to whinge about :-)
I say:
Well.............. that’s beginning to be a problem in the South Cone.
Argentina has no official quarrels to whinge about with Uruguay anymore....
Argentina has no official quarrels to whinge about with Brazil anymore....
Argentina has no official quarrels to whinge about with Paraguay anymore....
Argentina has no official quarrels to whinge about with Bolivia anymore....
Argentina has no official quarrels to whinge about with Chile anymore....
(besides a chunk of continental ice close to my ranchito)
Who’s left........ Think ...... Think..... Ahhhhhhh.....
So ... what you're saying is ....
Jul 30th, 2010 - 03:13 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Uruguay has no official quarrel with Argentina anymore (over enthusiastic coast guards?)...
Brazil has no official quarrel with Argentina any more (import tarrifs and delays?).....
Parguay has no official quarrel with Argentina any more ....
Bolivia has no official quarrel with Argentina any more ...
Chile has no official quarrel with Argentina any more ( that great lump of ice?)...
Ok, so I've got two to work on ... give me time :-)
....... pass the pickle
Jul 30th, 2010 - 03:19 pm - Link - Report abuse 0http://www.buenosairesherald.com/BreakingNews/View/40774
(21) Hoyt
Jul 30th, 2010 - 04:07 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Take your time and try to perspectivize the points your mention.
They are quite insignifisicifniquicantical :-)
Is like me saying that the “Rockall Issue“ has any weight in British, Danish, Icelandic or Irish live or Friendship.
and (22) Yes, that' the price of democracy... a lot of meetings....... It's a cheap price.......
@21 Hoytred. I thought Chile was upset about Argentina interfering in its trade with the Falkland Islands. You know, the best democracy in the South Atlantic and a constant thorn in the butt for Argentina.
Jul 30th, 2010 - 05:01 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Rule Britannia!!!!!!!!
“The committee is to be formed within the upcoming days and will be based on two Argentine and two Uruguayan scientifics, yet to be chosen”.
Jul 30th, 2010 - 05:22 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Argentina has lured a naive, corrupt president and leftish party right into their hands. Using argentinian & Uruguayan “ scientists” is a deal for disaster, I mean Uruguayan. I had the chance to read the deal the uneducated tupamaro Jose Mujica signed on a fly; it was posted in El Pais. Knowing that neither of these 2 countries have real scientists and the level of corruption that flows in Latinamerican nations; a bribe to these underpaid scientists is easy. Which means it will start a lawsuit against UPM.
The company at the end will win because already has the approval of the ICJ. Uruguay will be forced to follow the signed agreement and pay around 2 billion dollars or more in punitive damages. According to the agreement, both nations supposedly will inspect each others industrial sites. 4 scientists are not enough to accomplish a huge task, especially on the argentinian side. Argentina has dozens of high polluting industries; small and poor Uruguay has only UPM to monitor.
Reading (25) Liberty:
Jul 30th, 2010 - 08:55 pm - Link - Report abuse 0”Using argentinian & Uruguayan “ scientists” is a deal for disaster...
The deal the uneducated tupamaro Jose Mujica signed on a fly...
Knowing that neither of these 2 countries have real scientists ...”
I came to THINK about some recently read texts from those fine Englishmen:
“At some future period not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilized races of man will almost certainly exterminate and replace the savage races throughout the world. The break between man and his nearest Allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilized state, as we may hope, even than the Caucasian, and some ape as low as the baboon, instead of as now between the Negro or Australian and the gorilla.”
Darwin, Charles (1874), The Descent of Man.
Or:
“Their mental characteristics are likewise very distinct; chiefly as it would appear in their emotional, but partly in their intellectual faculties. Everyone who has had the opportunity of comparison must have been struck with the contrast between the taciturn, even morose, aborigines of S. America and the light-hearted, talkative negroes.”
Darwin, Charles (1874), The Descent of Man.
Or:
“No rational man, cognizant of the facts, believes that the average Negro is the equal, still less the superior, of the white man. And if this be true, it is simply incredible that, when all his disabilities are removed, and our prognathus relative has a fair field and no favour, as well as no oppressor, he will be able to compete successfully with his bigger-brained and smaller jawed rival, in a contest which is to be carried out on by thoughts and not by bites.
Huxley, Thomas H. (1871), Lay Sermons, Addresses and Reviews
Could Liberty be the reincarnation of the English gentleman of the XIX century?
I doubt it!
“ ... insignifisicifniquicantical ...”
Jul 31st, 2010 - 03:25 am - Link - Report abuse 0As indeed, is the Argentine issue over the Falklands to the British mind.
Good to see that you're learning more about Darwin. As you said a 'man of his time', but then again, aren't we all :-)
(27)
Jul 31st, 2010 - 07:38 am - Link - Report abuse 0You say:
“ ... insignifisicifniquicantical .... As indeed, is the Argentine issue over the Falklands to the British mind.”
I say:
We know... we know.... But we are working hard to get rid of the Prefix........
Soon it will be: ”signifisicifniquicantical”
Good ... I'd like to see you sow the wind :-)
Jul 31st, 2010 - 08:30 am - Link - Report abuse 0What would Dr. Darwin say about you throwing the Bible into a debate?
Jul 31st, 2010 - 09:02 am - Link - Report abuse 0Try to be a man of our time! :-)
26 Think:
Jul 31st, 2010 - 11:24 am - Link - Report abuse 0Your style of false bravado is easy to spot. You started quoting my comment and followed up with Charles Darwin, kind of derange, isn’t?...Oh well, I imagine that YOUR kind cannot do better than mock those that post the truth. I understand your limited capacity to process information. I do consider you a buffoon, nothing else or maybe insane.
@31. Liberty. But Twinky is deranged. Remember that Argentina has more psychiatrists then any other country.
Jul 31st, 2010 - 04:56 pm - Link - Report abuse 032 harrier61:
Jul 31st, 2010 - 06:08 pm - Link - Report abuse 0“Twinkly” as you call Mr. Thinking. He accuses the English of pirates, colonialists, etc. “It” and his people don’t accept the Falklanders as legitimate heirs of the islands after 177 years of occupation. His country after decades of non democratic governments found democracy with Raul Alfonsin as president in 1983, after the embarrassing defeat at the Falklands. Almost 3 decades later they end up with a disguised monarchy (the Kirchners). “Do what I say but don’t do what I do”. They have the nerve to praise themselves, hypocrites.
...sorry for the delay, I was far from my computer.
Aug 03rd, 2010 - 02:46 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Agree with Think 6 with focus in:
3) The control of the polluting industries on the Argentinean side of the river will be managed and run centrally.
Can´t understand Liberty´s conclusion on ´hunger for domination´. The measures agreed would legitimize any sustainable industry in the area and dismiss the others. That includes a lot of argentine activity on the river borders. End of superstition over industrial development but with tight controls. Isn´t that win-win?
(34) Pheel
Aug 03rd, 2010 - 03:14 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Long time no see mate....
Played some good chess lately?
35 Think
Aug 03rd, 2010 - 04:25 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Work + annual holiday + tired of unsustainable warmongers.
Just order place and time...always ready - but if you give me options, I´d choose bridge.
Maybe on day...
Aug 03rd, 2010 - 06:17 pm - Link - Report abuse 0The mundo is chico. :-)
“The mundo is chico”...that's why the argentinians still want the Falkland islands. It will never happen !!
Aug 03rd, 2010 - 06:43 pm - Link - Report abuse 038 Liberty
Aug 03rd, 2010 - 07:06 pm - Link - Report abuse 0As we say here: “Any bus is all right for you”
(cualquier bondi te deja bien)
(39)Pheel
Aug 03rd, 2010 - 07:18 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Don't waste your pólvora in this chimango.
He is más crazy that a cabra :-)
Self-determination ruled to be primary consideration. Argentine claims of “territorial integrity” no longer valid. All historical claims must bow to self-determination.
Aug 03rd, 2010 - 09:58 pm - Link - Report abuse 0Long live the Falkland Islands!!
Rule Britannia!!!
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